You can say whatever you want, but it won't matter. The concept of improving is simple, you do something that's difficult, your body adapts, and with this in mind will you still tell me "oh yeah play within or below your comfort zone to work on your blah blah blah" look man if you say this no Offense you're a pussy. You can work on whatever you want but you won't be improving efficiently. you can play within the comfort zone all you want for consistency but that's in most cases a waste. Playing 5* maps won't get you used to 6* or 7*. additionally, rn pp record potential could be 1500 and still people claim that they've reached their limits at 500. you're not working hard enough, you're not pushing yourself hard enough. Go download a shit ton of beatmaps and play the maps that actually challenge you. the only thing keeping top players from pushing further is the lack of high star maps, so dt is obviously gonna be the best option to get more difficult maps. you can become a 4/3 digit, just work harder than everybody.
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osu players when they dont have the most effective possible improvement method to watch the number go down faster
bigger number better person 
quitw become better
/s if you needed that for some reason
quitw become better
/s if you needed that for some reason
I think everyone already knows that pushing yourself is the best way to improve in pretty much any skill
Well, In general the sorta way u improve is by making patterns ur not comfy with, more comfy. I'd say, ignore star rating and all those numbers, just focus on whether or not the way you hit those patterns felt good and consistent or not.
Also there's actually a couple of pretty good use for easier maps to help you improve. First of all, its good warmup because for a play session to go well you first need to nail down on what you think you should be able to consistently do. Second, is that it helps to be able to hit easy patterns consistently, once you can hit easy patterns pretty much all the time you can put more focus in the actually difficult patterns/parts in maps. Though it does mean you shouldn't need to play maps with patterns you know you can basically hit all the time
This just means that every map that isn't too comfortable, low star rating or not, has the potential of making you improve. So never limit yourself to only a certain star range. Heck, dont even limit yourself on high sr and just put on NF, people say doing this gives bad habits but as long as you already had good warmup it shouldn't do too much while still pushing yourself in a certain way, just remember to actually try playing the map the way it was intended.
Also there's actually a couple of pretty good use for easier maps to help you improve. First of all, its good warmup because for a play session to go well you first need to nail down on what you think you should be able to consistently do. Second, is that it helps to be able to hit easy patterns consistently, once you can hit easy patterns pretty much all the time you can put more focus in the actually difficult patterns/parts in maps. Though it does mean you shouldn't need to play maps with patterns you know you can basically hit all the time
This just means that every map that isn't too comfortable, low star rating or not, has the potential of making you improve. So never limit yourself to only a certain star range. Heck, dont even limit yourself on high sr and just put on NF, people say doing this gives bad habits but as long as you already had good warmup it shouldn't do too much while still pushing yourself in a certain way, just remember to actually try playing the map the way it was intended.
If its harder it doesn't mean you are improving faster.
Also playing hard maps doesn't make you a tough guy, you are clicking circles...
Also playing hard maps doesn't make you a tough guy, you are clicking circles...
because cba
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everyone overthinking fr.QuantumKatana44 wrote:
I couldn't agree more.
In mid 2022 I was stuck at ~5.5 stars. I could easily 99% FC anything below, but had no chance of even passing anything above 5.8. After months of choking 5.5 I had not improved.
Realising it would take an eternity before I could play all those fun 6* maps I had, I decided to just play one with NF. As expected, I did awful (200 misses, 70% acc) but it was surprisingly really fun. I spent the next few months almost exclusively playing them and I can now get 95% acc on most 6-6.5 star maps. I'm now in the same process with 7 stars and it's so fun.
I still keep choking 5.5, but i'm way more comfortable and it's a matter of consistency instead of skill. So I do think that playing within your comfort zone is still important for consistency; its pretty much all thats stopping me from FCing most low 6 stars.
tl;dr challenging yourself will skyrocket your skillcap but won't help that much with consistency. Challenging yourself on high stars and perfecting low stars are both important, but the former is way better for improvement.
in the end osu! sure is a liability, but if you gain happiness from playing and improving go for it.Dementedduck wrote:
osu players when they dont have the most effective possible improvement method to watch the number go down faster
w mindset family, friends and career over anything 🤍WitherMite wrote:
bigger number better person
quitw become better
/s if you needed that for some reason
everyone knows but they forget, and most of the times don't push them selves hard enough.Stomiks wrote:
I think everyone already knows that pushing yourself is the best way to improve in pretty much any skill
by playing harder maps you have to put more effort, am I wrong?Fxjlk wrote:
If its harder it doesn't mean you are improving faster.
Also playing hard maps doesn't make you a tough guy, you are clicking circles...
Yeah go gym guys, it'll make you happier than playing osu!Lp9 wrote:
instead of improving at some video games, improve at the gym
You can do this!
More effort doesn't always mean more improvementMifz wrote:
by playing harder maps you have to put more effort, am I wrong?
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i do calisthenics, better overall.Stomiks wrote:
Yeah go gym guys, it'll make you happier than playing osu!Lp9 wrote:
instead of improving at some video games, improve at the gym
You can do this!
in most cases it sure does.imagine running at your full speed with full effort vs half assing it? obviously in most if not all cases more effort means better performance and better performance means more skill cap pushing. makes sense, right?Fxjlk wrote:
More effort doesn't always mean more improvementMifz wrote:
by playing harder maps you have to put more effort, am I wrong?
Running is nothing like music. Running speed is developed through tissue damage and repair.Mifz wrote:
in most cases it sure does.imagine running at your full speed with full effort vs half assing it? obviously in most if not all cases more effort means better performance and better performance means more skill cap pushing. makes sense, right?
Muscle memory for music is reinforced when you HIT the note correctly.
They aren't the same.
I agree lol i havent been going out of comfort zone for a while and damn i did go out of my comfort zone and im like literally getting so good. I thought my tapping wouldnt improve if i go out of my comfort zone, so i didnt go out of it for a huge time and somehow when i went outside my tapping improved more than when i was in my comfort zone 
The only problem with the concept of going outside your comfort zone is that sometimes you just dont realise you have gone way out of your comfort zone and you will just improve way slower than you will (though i can guarantee you will improve way faster than you were when you played in your comfort zone unless you have gone even way more out of comfort zone that you cant understand anything)
other than that i think quantumkatana is like really out of your comfort zone but not so much that you cant understand, like that way he improved faster than me when i was in my comfort zone. anyways other than that i think you should find a flow between going outside your comfort zone and really going outside your comfort zone)
The only problem with the concept of going outside your comfort zone is that sometimes you just dont realise you have gone way out of your comfort zone and you will just improve way slower than you will (though i can guarantee you will improve way faster than you were when you played in your comfort zone unless you have gone even way more out of comfort zone that you cant understand anything)
other than that i think quantumkatana is like really out of your comfort zone but not so much that you cant understand, like that way he improved faster than me when i was in my comfort zone. anyways other than that i think you should find a flow between going outside your comfort zone and really going outside your comfort zone)
Google quit w
Running full speed all the time is also actually counter productive, need to spend most of your training running in a low HR zone (like 135 / conversation pace for most people, zone 2 if you want look it up) to get the best improvement to your cardiovascular system, and for speed endurance training you should be going just a bit slower than your full speed to push your lactic threshold and tolerance for the pain of lactic buildup.Fxjlk wrote:
Running is nothing like music. Running speed is developed through tissue damage and repair.Mifz wrote:
in most cases it sure does.imagine running at your full speed with full effort vs half assing it? obviously in most if not all cases more effort means better performance and better performance means more skill cap pushing. makes sense, right?
Muscle memory for music is reinforced when you HIT the note correctly.
They aren't the same.