23:44 Lally: Hello o3o/
23:51 Blue Dragon: hey
23:51 Blue Dragon:
23:51 Lally: how are you? :3
23:52 Lally: i was derping arround and i found
23:52 *Lally is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/345189 Tech N9ne - Worldwide Choppers [Gangsta]]
23:53 Lally: can i discuss with you about 2-3 things and i'll give #2 bubble o3o/ i like it
23:53 Lally: if you have some time if not gonna drop a post o3o
23:58 Blue Dragon: oh
23:58 Blue Dragon: sorry for wait
23:58 Blue Dragon: sure
23:59 Lally: dw i have time :3
00:00 Lally: so wanna do irc or a post? o3o
00:04 Blue Dragon: irc
00:04 Blue Dragon:
00:04 Lally: uguu o3o!
00:05 Lally: so personally the first thing that i noticed was 00:58:642 (3) - this clap wch totally doesen't fit in the situation
00:05 Lally: there is no background sound wich introduce to use this kind of hitsound
00:05 Blue Dragon: oh
00:05 Blue Dragon: fixed with whistle
00:05 Blue Dragon: i think there are a lot of cases
00:05 Blue Dragon: like this
00:05 Blue Dragon: back when I mapped this
00:06 Blue Dragon: i used to hitsound claps as low-pitch beats x_x
00:06 Blue Dragon: it was stupid
00:06 Blue Dragon: anyways fixed
00:06 Lally: this was the most obv one wich was without nothing in the background for the rest the hitsounds are fine for me
00:07 Blue Dragon: 01:26:796 (5,6,7,8) -
00:07 Blue Dragon: oh god
00:07 Blue Dragon: sorry
00:07 Blue Dragon: for this
00:07 Blue Dragon: LOL
00:07 Blue Dragon: never noticed this
00:07 Lally: 01:36:719 (2,3) - this is personal thing ,i din't really like the flow between this 2 because personally for me flows better with ctrl+g the slider
00:08 Lally: what's wrong there
00:08 Blue Dragon: the sliders
00:08 Blue Dragon: have broken whistles
00:08 Lally: you mean whistle on body?
00:08 Blue Dragon: or something
00:08 Blue Dragon: on the slidertrack
00:08 Blue Dragon: yeah
00:08 Blue Dragon: shouldn't be there
00:09 Lally: i dunno i like how it sounds
00:09 Blue Dragon: well
00:09 Blue Dragon: about 01:36
00:09 Blue Dragon: i don't want to keep a circular flow
00:09 Blue Dragon: because it makes the chorus too repetitive
00:09 Blue Dragon: but it's really ugly and asymmetrical right now
00:10 Blue Dragon: so I'll fix is
00:10 Blue Dragon: it*
00:10 Lally: ok
00:11 Lally: 01:48:488 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - about this one there is no reason for me to go every 2 beat,you should continue without doing this small jumps in between every 2 circle
00:12 Blue Dragon: well
00:12 Blue Dragon: this is mostly a playing thing
00:12 Blue Dragon: the map is made for singletapping
00:12 Blue Dragon: so most players won't notice an issue on jumps
00:12 Blue Dragon: because it's singletapping
00:12 Lally: i noticed but in the end is actually not XD
00:12 Blue Dragon: and the intensity of the vocals go for every 1/2
00:13 Lally: 01:55:412 (1) - here you should add a clap aswell
00:13 Blue Dragon: oooh
00:13 Blue Dragon: you mean
00:13 Blue Dragon: 01:49:759 (12,1) -
00:13 Blue Dragon: ?
00:14 Blue Dragon: idk, i put it like this for playability purposes
00:14 Lally: i think here should be more spacing because there is another lyrics incoming
00:15 Lally: there is basicly nothing wrong but would be strange for me in a way
00:15 Blue Dragon: true
00:15 Blue Dragon: fixed
00:16 Lally: 02:01:181 (1) - this is the only ugly slider in the map,why? :c
00:16 Lally: and onether thing is that i don't know if is intentially or not but you missed some vocal here after 02:01:527 -
00:17 Lally: wich should basicly start here 02:01:412 -
00:17 Lally: om the stronger beat and not like in this case finishing on it
00:19 Blue Dragon: fixed the slider
00:20 Blue Dragon: i think i didn't miss a bit there o.o
00:20 Blue Dragon: the slider plays/sounds fine
00:20 Lally: 02:27:488 (8) - small thing here wich is just estectic one,personally i see this jumps as a bit big one and imo would be nice if the pattern 02:27:027 (6,8) - would be similar to 02:26:796 (5,7) - i mean something like ;
http://puu.sh/hamHT/b8e3737d57.jpg00:23 Blue Dragon: hmmm
00:23 Blue Dragon: how about placing 8 at 188 232:
00:23 Blue Dragon: ?*
00:25 Lally: uh yes o3o!
00:27 Blue Dragon: done
00:27 Lally: 02:39:258 (1,2,3,4) - i would suggest to unstack those due the flow of 02:39:604 (4,5) - i can understand such usage if ;
http://puu.sh/hamVW/438ec6c586.jpg but atm is like that
http://puu.sh/han68/3696d03c05.jpg this is kind of reason why i don't like it
00:31 Blue Dragon: wtf
00:31 Blue Dragon: this osu
00:31 Blue Dragon: not telling me about pm
00:31 Blue Dragon: sorry
00:31 Lally: about 02:40:181 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - is my personal opinion,but everyone knows that square jumps are *little cute cats that you wanna kill* and placing those as double note click is mean imo :c
00:31 Lally: dw
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00:31 Blue Dragon: not removing squares
00:32 Blue Dragon: sorry ;_;
00:32 Blue Dragon: they really fit
00:32 Blue Dragon: and i like them
00:32 Lally: not telling to remove
00:32 Lally: but to make more
00:32 *Lally hides
00:32 Lally: but single click and not double
00:32 Blue Dragon: also your ss is wrong o.o
00:32 Blue Dragon: 02:39:258 (1,2,3,4,5) -
00:32 Blue Dragon: 02:39:258 (1,2) -
00:32 Blue Dragon: you forgot there
00:32 Blue Dragon: lol
00:32 Blue Dragon: your ss is ignoring
00:32 Blue Dragon: these notes
00:34 Lally: i know it was just to make you understand what i was meaning sorry =w=) can happen somethimes
00:34 Lally: 02:39:258 (1,2) - basicly are ok
00:34 Lally: are 4 and 5 the most thing that i personally don't like
00:35 Blue Dragon: hmmm
00:36 Blue Dragon: 02:39:488 (3) - stacked with (1,2)
00:36 Blue Dragon: 02:39:604 (4) - 172;44
00:36 Blue Dragon: should be ok?
00:38 Lally: in this case 3 should be stacked with 4 at 172 |44 and btw imo is better 168 | 44
00:38 Lally: or even to have stacked 3 with 1-2 is ok
00:38 Lally: it doesen't look bad
00:39 Lally: yyou choise
00:39 Lally: 03:06:431 - add a circle here to follow ''be''
00:41 Blue Dragon: fixed
00:41 Lally: 03:26:796 - first thing here is that you missed a downbeat second one i don't understand why you're ignoring the sounds in the background at 03:26:565 - is there any particular reason for it?
00:43 Blue Dragon: because the slider ends/starts at blue tick
00:43 Blue Dragon: and it`d be confusing
00:43 Blue Dragon: to keep following the beat
00:43 Blue Dragon: also for a break
00:43 Blue Dragon:
00:45 Lally: but you started to map the map ''should stay ..'' 03:26:450 - here starts ''home'' and is strange imo
00:47 Lally: 04:19:065 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - about this one hmm how to start,is ok you're following the prev patterns but it gets to long and borring imo in this case and 04:19:988 (9) - sound so wrong to end here since you're basicly mapping vocal to not map the rest is strange
00:48 Lally: 04:20:681 (4,5) - in one of this to mostly to 4 i would add a new combo to add some difference to the pattern 04:20:335 (1,2,3,4) - and the rest
00:49 Lally: 04:31:296 (7) - personally i dislike that you can't click at this downbeat,because there is a strong sound wich needs to be clicked
00:50 Blue Dragon: back
00:50 Blue Dragon: faadfs
00:50 Lally: wb o3o/
00:50 Blue Dragon: 4:19 is right imo
00:50 Blue Dragon: added new combo on 4:20
00:51 Blue Dragon: (lol 4:20)
00:51 Lally: 04:46:873 (3,4,5,6) - this is the only 1/8 stream wich comes in all 4 of the kiais and you just mapped this kind of lyrics here with 1/8 wich basicly is wrong since it doesen't require such kind of rhythm usage and looks like an overmapped rhythm in my opinion
00:51 Blue Dragon: i'll fix 4:31
00:52 Lally: ok
00:52 Lally: and last thing is 05:19:354 - here add a circle
00:52 Blue Dragon: let me see 4
00:52 Blue Dragon: 4:46*
00:52 Lally: sure take your time
00:53 Blue Dragon: but there IS 1/8 there o.o
00:53 Blue Dragon: i used a 1/8 slider
00:53 Blue Dragon: in another kiai
00:53 Blue Dragon: 01:33:027 (3) -
00:54 Lally: is used for ''son'' in this case and not for ''right'' wich hasen't a 1/8 in any other kiai
00:54 Lally: is for the consistency and how i said before imo it looks like an overmapped rhythm in this case
00:55 Blue Dragon: well ;_; but it's 1/8
00:55 Blue Dragon: I prefer it much more
00:55 Blue Dragon: than 03:11:565 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1) -
00:55 Lally: imo you could use this kind of rhythm
http://puu.sh/haoPF/c85a6b05cf.jpg00:55 Lally: wich fits
00:56 Lally: there is sound in the background wich ask for 1/8
00:56 Blue Dragon: but that plays too weirdly
00:56 Lally: the basic this is that 04:46:931 - here is no beat in the background
00:57 Blue Dragon: there is
00:57 Blue Dragon: but it's like
00:57 Blue Dragon: 04:46:873 - strong
00:57 Blue Dragon: 04:46:931 - very weak
00:58 Blue Dragon: 04:46:988 - weak
00:58 Blue Dragon: 04:47:046 - kinda strong
00:58 Blue Dragon: 04:46:104 strong
00:58 Blue Dragon: I'm sure I can least it ;_;
00:58 Blue Dragon: hear it*
00:59 Lally: lemme open audacity need to listen it in more slow mode
01:01 Blue Dragon: btw 5:19 circle would be unplayable
01:02 Lally: you were right after listening it good there is a very light sound in the background
01:02 Lally: but very very light
01:03 Lally: what about 04:19:065 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - ?
01:03 Blue Dragon: yeah, still
01:04 Blue Dragon: he's still doing the w-w-why-y-y-you thing
01:04 Blue Dragon: I know the beat comes back there
01:04 Blue Dragon: but it'ss still following vocals
01:04 Lally: i mean the pattern gets borring after a bit since is to much repetitive
01:05 Lally: from 04:19:642 (6,7,8,9) - you could maybe start a rotation a bit?
01:06 Lally: this is basicly how i would say a BD pattern because mostly you have in a lot of maps of yours,this is why i am proposing a rotation of the following circles
01:07 Blue Dragon: hmmm
01:07 Blue Dragon: you mean like the airman tornados
01:07 Lally: uguu
01:07 Lally: but in smaller dimention
01:09 Blue Dragon: done
01:10 Blue Dragon:
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/300288001:10 Lally: i like it u3u
01:10 Lally: update and i'll re-check all
01:11 Lally: do you need the osb?
01:12 Lally: gonna re-do the bg for you since are not the righ dimension :V you baka
01:13 Blue Dragon: oh
01:14 Blue Dragon: 1 pixel off
01:14 Blue Dragon: lol
01:14 Lally: is 1024 not 1224*
01:14 Lally: 1228*
01:15 Blue Dragon: no lol
01:15 Blue Dragon: that's 4:3
01:15 Blue Dragon: my BG isn't 4:3
01:15 Blue Dragon: or 16:9
01:16 Blue Dragon: should be 1228x768
01:16 Blue Dragon: but it's 1 pixel off
01:16 Lally: uguu still,wanna fix alone?
01:16 Blue Dragon: i can fix myself
01:17 Lally: u.u
01:17 Lally: tell me when you uodate everything so will re-dl
01:18 Blue Dragon: uploaded
01:18 Blue Dragon: now brb, dinner :3/
01:18 Lally: k o3o/
01:19 Lally: gonna drop some things here that i just noticed ;
01:19 Lally: 00:45:200 (3) - why the end is stacked to 1/16? and not to 1/8 ?
01:20 Lally: 03:15:027 (1) - same again ^
01:25 Lally: 01:55:412 (1) - forgot to add a clap here
01:27 Lally: the rest looks great o3ob
01:34 Blue Dragon: b ack
01:35 Lally: ok i'm gonna go to smoke a cig and come back o3o
01:35 Blue Dragon: 00:45:200 (3) - 25%, it's perfect on 1/16
01:35 Blue Dragon: 03:15:027 (1) - ssame
01:36 Blue Dragon: I prefer a finish on 1:55
01:43 Lally: ok o3ob
01:44 Lally: gonna post the log
