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Tanzklaue

Sephibro wrote:

never lost a game as scum yet even if i play scum SOOOOOOO BAD \m/

actually they were all flawless victories 8-)
you just assigned yourself a day 1 lynch for all eternity yo.
Raging Bull
Hard to scum read someone we know is town.
Amianki
Also, pieguy blipped my secret scumtell this game.
pieguyn
noooooo

shut up with all your hidden scumtells :cry:
my scumgame is bad enough as it is there's no need to go making it worse T_T
Sephibro
pieguy played an awesome game, and so did RB

i got carried as usual
pieguyn
no your play this game was way way better than mine. I'm the worst scumplayer in the history of history .-.
Raging Bull

Jinxy wrote:

So rusty

/in

Made me laugh. Died so quick.
Chamelo

pieguy1372 wrote:

no your play this game was way way better than mine. I'm the worst scumplayer in the history of history .-.
You won so many times as scum. ._.
pieguyn
>1 win
>which was mostly due to sitting there and hoping no one noticed me all game
>1 loss

there were some games back from like 2011 but back then I played ... differently XD

ed: and in every single one of those scum games that I can recall my team basically carried me :P
Tanzklaue

Raging Bull wrote:

Hard to scum read someone we know is town.
yea, but you weren't accusing me for a free lynch aswell, probably with the lategame in mind.
Irreversible
I SURVIVED
i guess
BUT AT LEAST I MADE IT TO THE END
fuck my reads, they're just never right XD
Jinxy

pieguy1372 wrote:

we decided on Jinxy cause he was kind of off the radar, but everyone thought he was town anyway.
That was my plan, to go off the radar, then I got voted king and my response was "fuck". I couldn't refuse without getting even more attention on me, either
DakeDekaane
Flawless victory, gg scumz
-kevincela-
orz
fartownik
thank you guys for sheeping me on pieguy
fartownik
thank you guys for being active and actually doing something to determine whether it's me or Sephibro who's scum in D3
fartownik
we had over 50 pages of the game with different lynch mechanics and you couldn't even look at ISOs from them, just because lazy
Sakura
Sephibro was like obvscum between fartownik and sephibro because no scum kills and blocks a cop on the same night.
Sephibro
^ how could i be obvious when we had submitted no kill?
he was more obvscum because he pushed massclaim d1, because of his continuos mistakes of making magic townreads out of nowhere and because he looked like the informed one on d3

also the fact that wagon moved from him to tsukasa at the speed of light on d2 looked like scum trying to save their partner

town did the right choice
fartownik
No. You're just saying that because you were scum and you won. Town did a shit job there.
Nyquill
SEPHIBRO WAS OBVIOUS SCUM BECAUSE HE DIDN'T HELP ME OUT D1
Tanzklaue

fartownik wrote:

No. You're just saying that because you were scum and you won. Town did a shit job there.
ok when did you become such a sore loser?
Sephibro

Nyquill wrote:

SEPHIBRO WAS OBVIOUS SCUM BECAUSE HE DIDN'T HELP ME OUT D1
this is the only valid one
fartownik

Tanzklaue wrote:

fartownik wrote:

No. You're just saying that because you were scum and you won. Town did a shit job there.
ok when did you become such a sore loser?
I'm not one. I haven't paid enough attention to this game myself, but saying that Town did a good job there is just bullcrap.
Sephibro
i was the obv townread there, and you were the obv scumread

there's not even 1 single point that could have made people read you town over me
fartownik
you're weird
pieguyn

fartownik wrote:

thank you guys for sheeping me on pieguy
that's why it's important to look town ~
fartownik
Too bad, I always look scum.
pieguyn
no, you've came across as town before

I think your problem this game was that you came across too conceited and stubborn and unwilling to work with others. so people kind of wanted to lynch you just for that. and when I pointed out your "hidden scumtell" was wrong I'd like to at least hope that sealed it a bit otherwise I'll feel sad :(
Tanzklaue

pieguy1372 wrote:

no, you've came across as town before

I think your problem this game was that you came across too conceited and stubborn and unwilling to work with others. so people kind of wanted to lynch you just for that. and when I pointed out your "hidden scumtell" was wrong I'd like to at least hope that sealed it a bit otherwise I'll feel sad :(
not really (it was sealed before that) but that did make you look a whole lot more town.
pieguyn
tbh that's the first scum case I've ever made. glad to see it at least made me look town :3
pieguyn

CalignoBot wrote:

Also, pieguy blipped my secret scumtell this game.
actually is this specific to me?

bc if not I think I know what it is and it was actually done on purpose cause I thought I could get away with it .-.
Sakura
tbf i was scumreading sephibro during his 1v1 with fartownik, it looked way too obvious to me, i just sux at explaining why >.>
Sephibro
maybe it was some sort of farto's MAGIC GUT FEELING
Sakura

Sephibro wrote:

maybe it was some sort of farto's MAGIC GUT FEELING
Those magic gut feelings are very deadly in the hands of a vigilante you know.
Sephibro
i didn't get it
Sakura
There are a few red flags that pinged me during that game, but eh...

What i mean is... a vig with accurate gut reads is deadly for scum. I usually get accurate gut reads i just have an issue conveying them and for some reason I have an even harder time doing that here on osu!.
Tanzklaue

Sakura wrote:

Sephibro wrote:

maybe it was some sort of farto's MAGIC GUT FEELING
Those magic gut feelings are very deadly in the hands of a vigilante you know.
we had no vigilante, so why is this relevant?
Sakura
Not relevant to this game, more relevant to myself.
Sephibro
actually it's not bad at all for scum when vigilante relies on his MAGIC GUT FEELING
because he will 75/100 shoot town
Sakura

Sephibro wrote:

actually it's not bad at all for scum when vigilante relies on his MAGIC GUT FEELING
because he will 75/100 shoot town
That's what YOU think :P
Sakura
The chances would really be 75/100 if the vig was rolling a die and shooting like that, but having reads even if they come from a magical gut feeling skews that.
Sephibro
you're right, having reads gives even better chances to hit town
Sakura

Sakura wrote:

There are a few red flags that pinged me during that game, but eh...

What i mean is... a vig with accurate gut reads is deadly for scum. I usually get accurate gut reads i just have an issue conveying them and for some reason I have an even harder time doing that here on osu!.
Sakura
So far aside from my first game as vig i usually hit scum like... 80% of the time.
Sephibro
if only accurate gut reads existed, i would agree with that
pieguyn

Sephibro wrote:

if only accurate gut reads existed, i would agree with that
hi o/
Sakura
You know pieguy, if we ever hydra we should call the hydra something gut read related.
pieguyn
:P
actually I rely on gut reads way less now. I still do sometimes but not in the way that I used to. I've figured out a lot of the stuff that I called "gut" and I've weaponized it. as it turns out it's actually kind of logical o.o

but it looks like I'll still forever be known for always voting on gut reads \:D/
Sakura
Gut is always kinda logical, the thing is that it's hard to put into words, it's also what most newbies use according to mastin.

Here's a whole article on it
Sephibro
I come from live mafia, where i always played open setups with simple roles and most of all they were NO REVEAL games.
When i played my first game here, i was shocked by the "flip" mechanic. Also that game (information mafia) had a completely retarded setup, with retarded roles, and retarded/impossible to understand hidden mechanics.

In the games of the first kind, you have to completely rely upon logic, you have to set up long term strategies that will allow you to bring scum into contraddiction or corner them as much as possible.
The games of the second kind are much lazier, you just have to put up random lynches as you guys love so much and hope they'll flip scum - the more noob people are, the less they care about playing the game, they only want to always have new shitty shiny roles to contemplate while they random vote like braindead.

so yes, that's a regression without any doubt
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