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Mok
Thanks Larto :)
Andrea
[Overall]

- Set a preview point on all difficulties.

BPM: 115,00 - Offset: 2.242 (Remember to resnap all notes.)

[Easy]

After all the fix, re-space all the map by using distance snap correctly.

Overall difficulty is too high. Reduce it.

Set circle size 1 tick lower.

00:08:036 (1) - 1/4 forward and shorten it by 1/8.
00:10:083 (4) - Extend it by 1/4.

00:12:014 (5) - New combo.
00:14:023 (9) - New combo.

00:14:010 (9,10) - 1/4 forward.
00:16:044 (12) - ^
00:20:036 (1) - Start this 1/4 forward and extend by 1/4.
00:25:005 (1) - 1/4 forward.
00:27:014 (3) - ^
00:28:070 (1) - 1/4 forward and shorten it by 1/4.
00:30:079 (1,2,3) - 1/4 forward.
00:32:062 (5) - ^
00:36:053 (2) - 1/4 forward and shorten it by 1/4.
00:38:049 (5) - Extend by 1/4.
00:39:040 (1) - Start this 1/4 forward and shorten it by 1/4.
00:42:079 (4) - 1/4 forward and shorten it by 1/4.
00:43:097 (3,4) - Too hard for an easy map. Change it.
00:46:097 (1) - 1/4 forward.
00:48:001 (2) - 1/4 forward and extend by 1/4.
00:52:005 (4) - Shorten it by 1/4.
00:53:023 (5) - 1/4 forward and shorten it by 1/4.
00:54:014 (7) - Extend by 1/4.
00:55:031 (2) - 1/4 forward.
00:58:044 (1) - Start this 1/4 forward and end this spinner here -> 01:00:658.
01:06:079 (1) - 1/4 forward and shorten it by 1/4.
01:09:079 (1) - Extend by 1/4.
01:12:001 (4) - 1/4 forward.
01:13:005 (5) - ^


[ThEfUrY's MiX!!!!]

00:23:087 (5) - New combo due to jump.
00:58:057 (17) - New combo.
00:58:083 (1) - Remove new combo.

01:59:022 (1) - Unrankable spinner. Min. Bonus with auto: 2000.
02:13:018 (1) - ^
lthefuryl
osuplayer i've fixed your things

Download: Lady Gaga - Paparazzi (tmokb93) [ThEfUrY's MiX!!!!].osu
Topic Starter
Mok
i've fixed my difficulty too.
lthefuryl
ok i've fixed some things...i've already sent u my diff arranged on skype... up it ;)
Linox_old
Nice map! Stars!
Topic Starter
Mok
thank you! *A*
Diasios
Mod Info's:

Green: Suggestions.
Orange: I think you should fix this.
Red: You must fix this.

Starts Suggestions:

Set preview point.

[Easy]

Use always the "Distance Snap". Spacing is wrong.
00:08:047 (1) - End on red tick
00:12:012 (5) - New combo
00:16:055 (12) - ^
00:22:818 - break
00:25:016 - End on red tick, repeat slider and delete the circle in 00:26:731


[Normal]

00:16:068 (2) - move on white tick
00:37:068 (5) - SPACING
01:55:042 (3) - end on red tick


[lthefuryl]

It's ok

Starred~
Topic Starter
Mok
Arigatou :3
Topic Starter
Mok
all fixed :3
Saixina_x3
starred
Lokamp
[General] try to lower overall hitsounds's volume on all modes (exept lthefuryl's ;3)

Easy
00:35:060 (1,2,3,4,5) - ... too many claps on this purple series... remove or replace some of them with other sounds!
00:56:047 (3) - end it with a finish
01:12:012 (4) - new combo here
01:12:012 (4,5) - use soft hitsounds for these sliders (end the 5th with soft finish)

Normal
[General] add hitsounds for this mode :3
00:47:034 (2) - move it to 00:47:047 (red timing tick)
00:48:064 (5) - move it to 00:48:090 (red timing tick) remember to fix spacing!
01:35:086 (5) - move it to 01:36:012 (white timing tick)

Hard
[General] Add hitsounds even for this mode!
01:11:099 (1,2) - move these beats a timing tick forward
01:13:042 (4) - ^
02:02:060 (2,4) - ^
02:11:086 (5) - ^
02:27:051 (2,4) -
02:33:012 (6) - move it a timing tick forward and shrink this slider of a timing tick
02:43:029 (1) - move it a timing tick forward and place it 1-2 squares down
02:52:055 (2,4) - again, move them a timing tick forward
03:17:060 (2,4) - ^

ThEfUrY's MiX!!!! (thanks for the capitals, lthefuryl ^^")
00:58:031 (15,17) - clap the 15th, finish the other one
01:15:026 (14) - finish here

...and that's all! As your first map, it's a good start!
lthefuryl
done...i've fixed :) that's all fixed ;)

Download: Lady Gaga - Paparazzi (tmokb93) [ThEfUrY's MiX!!!!].osu
Topic Starter
Mok
fixed :D
[_Edward_]
Starred
Rokugatsu_old
Starred
Lunah_old
Starred

awesome song
Crisis_Core
starred
HakuNoKaemi
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Sinistro
- There's nothing in your .osb file, so delete it.
- Remove "tmokb93" and "music" from the tags in all difficulties.
- Offset feels early. Maybe around 8,484 would be better?
- I'd suggest the preview point to be at 00:41:731.
- If this map set is complete, shouldn't it be in Pending?

Easy
The break at about 01:05:340 is pretty tiny, less than two seconds; since this is Easy and a very short map, I think you could remove it without the map looking "empty".

- 00:47:092 (1) - 1/4 shorter (should end at 00:47:484). Don't forget to check how spacing has changed afterwards.
- 00:55:440 (2) - 1/4 shorter (should end at 00:55:831). Don't forget to check how spacing has changed afterwards.

(You're using the right slider length for "pa-pa" at 01:12:123 (1), by the way)

- 01:01:440 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - the way the singer sings, it seems to be 5 should be a circle and 6 a slider from 01:02:744 to 01:03:266, since the singer holds a note there. I'm only asking this sort of change to make Easy more intuitive rhytmically.

Normal
AImod tells me this difficulty has no preview point, so set the same preview point as Easy.
- 00:55:701 (3) - 1/4 later (remember? The second "pa" in "Pa-pa" goes on a blue tick) Check how spacing must change.
- 00:59:875 (3) - 1/4 later. Again, don't forget to change spacing.
- 01:04:049 (3) - As above, 1/4 later, remember to change spacing.
- 01:12:136 (1) - 1/4 longer.

Hard
AImod tells me this difficulty has no preview point, so set the same preview point as Easy.
- 00:46:311 (5) - Unfortunately, I only tolerate this kind of stack in Insane. Please get that circle out of the stack (remember to check how spacing changes)
- 00:47:354 (2) - 1/4 later ("Pa-pa"!)
- 00:54:658 (6) - As with 00:46:311 (5).
- 00:55:702 (3) - As with 00:47:354 (2).
- 01:30:384 (6) - 1/4 shorter
- 01:56:471 (1,2,3) - Space them farther from the previous circle, and move anything that comes after to keep spacing as needed.

ThEfUrY's MiX!!!!
AImod tells me this difficulty has no preview point, so set the same preview point as Easy.
Hitsound volume is a little loud, I'd lower it to about 7.
Kiai time is used a lot in this difficulty. I'd suggest cutting it in half by stopping it at 00:58:571 (17) and again at 02:13:702 (1).
Topic Starter
Mok
all fixed :3
Sinistro

tmokb93 wrote:

all fixed :3
Are you sure? ;)

Things I asked that haven't been fixed yet:

-The .osb file is still there. Maybe you didn't full resubmit when you deleted it?
-You've removed "lthefuryl" from the tags of Easy, Normal and ThEfUrY's MiX!!!!, and Hard still has "Music" and "tmkob93" as tags. Make it so every difficulty only has "lthefuryl" as a tag.
-Your difficulties have different timing! Easy and Normal have 8,483, Hard has 8,471 and ThEfUrY's MiX!!!! has 8,485. Pick one offset around the time I suggested and put it on all difficulties.

Easy
00:48:135 (2) - I didn't want you to shorten this one, only the first slider it that combo. Make it either 1/4 longer (as before) or 1/4 shorter (that works too and fits the singing)
00:55:427 (2) - You haven't shortened this slider, though. Maybe you confused this with the slider above?
AImod tells me your notes are unsnapped, so resnap them.

Normal
AImod tells me your notes are unsnapped, so resnap them.

ThEfUrY's MiX!!!!
Volume and kiai time have stayed the same. Since this is a guest difficulty, I understand if you don't want to change it by yourself, but if lthefuyl hasn't read this already, tell him.
Topic Starter
Mok
Ok fixed :3 I hope this time will be okay :D
Sinistro
This map is now bubbled.
minyeob
Sin there's a offscreen rule D:

[Easy]
00:14:074 (6) -
00:38:048 (5) -
00:56:048 (3) -

These notes are "silghtly offscreen" please fix those notes' placement.

Sorry lol
Topic Starter
Mok
fixed :3
Shulin
Am I the only one who thinks this needs more work?

A lot of this is "box mapping" and it could benefit from more inventive beat placement and hit sound use imo. Easy and Normal seem a little too short. While there is nothing explicitly wrong with this map I think it needs more work :D

Not sure whether to mod this or not, depends on what the creator wants to do :P
minyeob
[Easy]
00:14:074 (6) -
How did you fix like this? :o
Too far from previous object.
mtmcl
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Topic Starter
Mok

Shulin wrote:

Am I the only one who thinks this needs more work?

A lot of this is "box mapping" and it could benefit from more inventive beat placement and hit sound use imo. Easy and Normal seem a little too short. While there is nothing explicitly wrong with this map I think it needs more work :D

Not sure whether to mod this or not, depends on what the creator wants to do :P
If you want to mod it you're free to do it, but I think they're ok :D

p.s: Thanks miny for the correction and mt for the "promised" mod-thing :3
Shulin
Ok here is my mod:

General

Combo colors - White after Grey is a little irritating, perhaps place the colors in this order Blue > Grey > Purple > White

Source: Should be Lady Gaga's album (The Fame Monster?), not just "Lady Gaga".

Kiai time?

Easy:

Overall difficulty down one tick? Hp drain rate is pretty much unfailable I'd recommend increasing it.

00:13:044 (4) - Notes should not be covered in easy, reposition.
00:14:022 (5) - New combo
00:52:005 (4) - Move this slightly, its covered by 00:50:074 (3) - and thus hard for Easy players to detect. Reposition the other notes if you take this suggestion.
00:55:018 (1) - Should not start on a red tick, again hard for an easy and the actual beat comes in at 00:55:044 (2) -
01:01:044 (1,2,3,4,5) - A little confusing for an Easy reposition 4 so it comes below 3, if you take this suggestion reposition the others.
01:04:018 (8) - Blue tick on easy is hard to hit, make 01:03:078 (7) - a slider till 01:04:018

Hitsounds are generally good :D

Normal:

Reduce overall difficulty this should not be tick 7 for a normal. Increase circle size?

00:10:005 (4) - New Combo
00:12:013 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Generally patterns like this are a little dull ~ straight lines ~ consider different beat placements. This applies to all the others such as 00:20:048 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - etc, try and think of inventive ways to place the beats it makes it much more fun to play.
00:28:083 (1) - A slider would work well here (even a slow down section), generally extended notes make good spots to place sliders.
00:29:035 (2) - This isn't aligned with 00:28:083 (1) - either, plus mapping in straight lines... same suggestion as above.
00:30:091 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Unaligned, really noticeable in game.
00:48:091 (5) - Too far from 00:48:052 (4) -
00:55:018 (1) - Unaligned ~ there are a bunch of other notes like this, it looks messy in game.
01:23:061 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - The patterns you use in these sections are quite similar (almost identical). This gets boring quite quickly, again think of new ways to map and place beats and sliders :D
01:34:005 (1,2,3,4) - Alignment etc.
01:56:354 Ends in an awkward place, just before a chorus I'd end it after the chorus has finished.

Hard:

~ The overall difficulty is lower than Normal, this should not be the case.
~ Hit circles too small?
~ This plays a little to similar to Normal.
~ Throughout the whole difficulty make sure its aligned, looks a bit messy like I said in Normal.
~ Generally the things I mentioned in Normal apply here are some examples (but not all):

00:00:013 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - Repetition ~ try to think of new ways to map the same beats.
00:12:013 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Linear mapping ~ try to use better placement.
00:21:000 (5) and 00:31:044 (3) - - Alignment ~ try to make sure things are reasonably aligned.

00:55:031 (1) - Doesn't follow any beat in the song, remove?
00:55:083 (3) - This should really be on a red tick.
01:39:013 (4) - ^
02:09:077 - Add a note it makes the triplet sound better.
02:20:035 (1) - White tick, blue one is offbeat.

TheFury Mix:

Not bad, the same advice would probably apply here as well :P

This mod is by no means exhaustive, but I stick by my original statement that this needs more work and more mods in general, up to you whether you take my suggestions :D Good luck!
Topic Starter
Mok
I gave you a kudos 'cause some of the Generals help was helpful but I think your timing helps isn't very correct, then i won't follow them. Thanks the same :3
mtmcl
Alright, nothing unrankable about the map. No hesitance as this has undergone quite a bit of legit modding. Have a bubble.
Mafiamaster
Didn't see a bubble but rather a star icon when I checked. Sooo...

Source~
Delete the Lady Gaga from the Source on each difficulty. It's strange to see "Lady Gaga (Lady Gaga) - Paparazzi [Easy]" at the Song Select Screen.

Easy~
00:44:745 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:09:789 (1) - ^

Normal~

01:36:137 (5) - Move farther from 4.

Hard~
Set lead-in time to 2 seconds.
01:01:963 (3) - Space this evenly like the rest of the combo.
01:31:702 (1) - Move farther from 7.
01:39:137 (4) - This note sounds bad where it is. It's also the only one of its kind. Consider moving it to 01:39:006.
02:20:354 (1) - Move this forward to the nearest white tick.

lthefuryl~
Is fine.
Topic Starter
Mok
All fixed :3
Mafiamaster
Looking good.
Bubbled!
mks_old
Awesome map! Starred x3
mtmcl
Rebubbled. I see nothing wrong with the map, but Mafia's bubble disappeared for some reason or another, so I'm going to leave it to Mafia to rank it.
Mafiamaster
Sorry, I must've missed this before I bubbled.

Mafiamaster wrote:

Delete the Lady Gaga from the Source on each difficulty. It's strange to see "Lady Gaga (Lady Gaga) - Paparazzi [Easy]" at the Song Select Screen.
Also why is "tmokb93" in the source in Easy?
That is all.
Topic Starter
Mok
Fixed x3
Mafiamaster
Nice, nice.
Rebubbled! ^^
mtmcl
Fix confirmed. Let's rank this shit!
Topic Starter
Mok
Shit? ç_ç Btwm thanks *_*
Derekku
Kiai starts on awkward places in fury's diff, but overall the map isn't bad.
kingcobra52
Darn. I didn't know it would be ranked this fast. Here's a normal/hard you can consider adding. I really liked the song so I gave it some effort.

Download: Lady Gaga - Paparazzi (tmokb93) [Kingcobra Mix!].osu
Topic Starter
Mok
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
kingcobra52
You know it's never too late to add difficulties to maps right? As long as 2 BATs approve of it and nothing else is changed in the other difficulties. It's just a matter of if you want my difficulty added or not. :P

...It may be better to just submit my own set though, if you don't want to go through the hassle. I just felt this set was too overmapped and could use a more unique style.
Jarby
It's a bit silly to add difficulties to ranked maps, really.
Ainya
:O
PokuMii
To tell you the truth, i like this version of Paparazzi better than the other one that got ranked.
Topic Starter
Mok

JazyKuun wrote:

To tell you the truth, i like this version of Paparazzi better than the other one that got ranked.
Thanks :D
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