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MuryokuP - Mephisto

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Mod request from my Queue

Nice song. I love it. :)

[-kevincela-'s Easy]

00:14:828 (4) - Add NC and remove NC 00:15:143 (1) - here. It's easier to read for beginners.

01:39:775 (1) - Remove NC.

02:56:511 (4) - Add NC and remove NC 02:56:827 (1) - here. Same as above.

03:01:880 (1) - Remove NC.

[Normal]

It's fine. Nothing to say.

[Sakuya's Hard]

AR 8 for hard? I recommend AR 7.

00:19:565 (1) - Remove NC.

00:34:406 (6) - Add NC.

00:48:301 - Maybe add a spinner here. End point: 00:49:880 - remove the slider and add a circle 00:50:196 (1) - there if you add the spinner and remove NC 00:50:512 (1) - here.

01:04:880 (5) - Move that circle 2 box left.

01:05:038 (6) - Move that slider to x:48 ; y:264.

01:09:933 (5) - Add NC.

01:10:722 (1) - Remove NC.

01:55:880 (8) - Add NC.

01:56:196 (1) - Remove NC.

[UWS's Insane]

02:45:459 (1) - Remove NC.

02:46:091 (9) - Add NC.

[Insane]

00:41:512 (8) - Add NC.

00:42:143 (1) - Remove NC.

00:44:038 (8) - Add NC.

00:44:512 (1) - Remove NC.

00:46:091 (7) - Add NC.

01:49:406 (6) - ^

01:52:406 (1) - Remove NC.

01:52:880 (6) - Add NC.

01:53:670 (1) - Remove NC.

01:53:985 (8) - Add NC.

01:54:775 (1) - Remove NC.

01:55:091 (8) - Add NC.

03:00:538 (9) - Move that circle 1 box right.

03:11:080 (9) - Add NC.

03:11:480 (1) - Remove NC.

03:11:880 (6) - Add NC.

03:12:980 (10) - ^

03:13:080 (1) - Remove NC.
-kevincela-
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osu file format v12

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 49722
Countdown: 0
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Title:Mephisto
TitleUnicode:Mephisto
Artist:MuryokuP
ArtistUnicode:無力P
Creator:Sephibro
Version:-kevincela-'s Easy
Source:
Tags:eschatology megurine luka vocaloid UnitedWeSin LunarSakuya -kevincela-
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Thanks :D
Topic Starter
Sephibro
Changed several things from Pagno's, xLoupGarou's and -Famous-'s mods!

Thank you all very much! :)
Yauxo
Hi there, coming from your request in my Modding Q

[General]
  1. seems fine

[kev's Easy]
  1. stuff pointed out in the 1st kiai time should also be applied to the 2nd
    Blankets that can be improved
    00:23:354 (2) - nazi; a little bit less round for it to blanket 1 perfectly
    00:42:933 (1) - nazi; 1's head is slightly off/weird
    01:31:564 (2,3) - 3's tail is too far outside
  2. 00:16:406 (3) - move this one to y230 so that it has the same y coord as 00:15:143 (1) - 's tail
  3. 01:37:249 (3) - ^ y274
  4. 00:17:670 (1) - overlap 00:14:828 (4) - ?
  5. 01:02:512 (3) - change this one to a slider eventually? 01:05:038 (3) - is one too and I think a slider would fit more than a circle does (edti: though you seem to like the "first less, then more" kind of style, as this happens more often)
  6. 01:28:406 (1,2) - I'd say that this would look better if 2's tai lwasnt so touchy with 1's trail
  7. 01:31:564 (2) - overlap with 01:28:406 (1) - 's tail?
  8. 01:56:196 (1) - overlap off by 1y | fix 01:58:406 (3) - after moving
  9. 03:17:080 (1) - overlap off by 1 on each coord
  10. 03:20:280 (1) - ^

[Normal]
  1. stuff pointed out in the 1st kiai time should also be applied to the 2nd
  2. 00:15:143 (1) - overlap off by 1y
  3. 00:55:564 (1) - eventually move this one a little bit down so that 00:54:933 (4) - flows into it even more
  4. 01:38:512 (1,2) - spread these 2 a little bit so that they have around the same distance as 01:33:459 (1,2) -

[Sakuya's Hard]
  1. 00:42:617 (8) - overlap off by 1y
  2. 00:57:301 (5) - i kinda dislike that this combo has a hit on the red tick while the other combos have a empty spot there. I'd say that this should be fixed, but that'd mean that you would have to remap entire sections of the song, so .. uhm .. i guess not.
  3. 01:08:196 (1) - overlap off by 1x
  4. 01:44:670 (3) - I really think this one should be more spaced away from 2. not only isit 0.3 less, but it also feels weird since 2's a repeatable that might be taken as a normal slider that leads into 3 w/o any special timing change (yet it is 1/1 away)
  5. 02:21:459 (1) - off by 1y
  6. 02:30:933 (5) - tail's overlap off by 1y
  7. 02:35:038 (3) - off by 1x

[Insane]
  1. 00:24:617 (8,1) - I think an overlap would be better here
  2. 00:31:722 (1) - overlap off by 1x ( i guess ill stop pointing such out, this is not an overlap mod D:)
  3. 01:20:511 (3,4,1) - not gonna lie, but this divebomb feels weird after having so many triangle jumps
  4. 01:40:091 (2,3,4) - I'd NC every single slider to show SV changes
  5. 01:50:512 (1) - ^
  6. 02:30:775 (2) - I'd continue the combo the way you mapped this before and move 02:30:933 (3) - one spot to the right so that it's a blanket for 02:30:617 (1) -
  7. 03:00:538 (9) - space this equally for 8 and 1
  8. 03:27:480 (1) - move into the middle of that combo maybe?

[UWS' Insane]
  1. 01:14:354 (5) - having this one flow to the right feels off, as the sliders indicate a to-the-left flow.
  2. 02:44:196 (1) - make this one more visible? o:
  3. the very last kiai time doesnt really feel like a speed up for me, but thats too late to change I guess D:

Gl~ :3
Topic Starter
Sephibro

Yauxo wrote:

[Normal]
  1. stuff pointed out in the 1st kiai time should also be applied to the 2nd
  2. 00:15:143 (1) - overlap off by 1y fixed!
  3. 00:55:564 (1) - eventually move this one a little bit down so that 00:54:933 (4) - flows into it even more fixed
  4. 01:38:512 (1,2) - spread these 2 a little bit so that they have around the same distance as 01:33:459 (1,2) - and fixed

[Insane]
  1. 00:24:617 (8,1) - I think an overlap would be better here you're not the first to point this out - changed!
  2. 00:31:722 (1) - overlap off by 1x ( i guess ill stop pointing such out, this is not an overlap mod D:) NAZI! changed tho :P
  3. 01:20:511 (3,4,1) - not gonna lie, but this divebomb feels weird after having so many triangle jumps it plays fine, but i agree it might be better
  4. 01:40:091 (2,3,4) - I'd NC every single slider to show SV changes i'll keep it as it is, the sv change looks natural together with the music and volume increasing
  5. 01:50:512 (1) - ^
  6. 02:30:775 (2) - I'd continue the combo the way you mapped this before and move 02:30:933 (3) - one spot to the right so that it's a blanket for 02:30:617 (1) - changed following your idea
  7. 03:00:538 (9) - space this equally for 8 and 1 it plays way better like this
  8. 03:27:480 (1) - move into the middle of that combo maybe? it would be too close to the previous slider...maybe i could move it farther
Thank you for your mod!
LunarSakuya

Krfawy wrote:

Hard

  1. 00:23:038 (2) - Maybe move it to X=414? already there
  2. 02:00:617 (7) - NC maybe? Fixed

Pjecoo wrote:

Sakuya's Hard:
03:17:080 (4) - Remove hitsound at the reverse arrow. changed to drum whistle
03:23:480 (4) - Same ^^

Rare wrote:

[Sakuya's Hard]
00:23:670 - i want note here i think I'll follow the vocals here
03:26:280 (2) - NC i see what you mean xD but I decided to leave this

Lumina wrote:

Sakuya's Hard

00:14:196 (6) - 220|112 to avoid an overlap with the slider 4 ? yes
00:22:723 (1,2) - Fix this stack a bit. yes
00:42:301 (7) - 205|190 (nazi blanket :3) mm
01:01:564 (3) - Move a tiny bit the middle tick of this slider to 331|127 this will make a perfect blanket.
01:50:828 (5) - Not sure about this slider because of the red points on it, there's much. it's fine as long as the SV remains constant
01:56:512 (2) - Curve to blanket with the next slider perhaps ? yes
02:01:249 (9) - NC. did on (7)
02:49:249 (1,3) - Overlap ? it'll be fine like this
03:27:480 (8) - NC. didn't see a strong enough reason

inverness wrote:

Sakuya's Hard
  1. The intro is kinda overmapped with all these 1/2 mapping. Yeah they do fit the music but this widen the difficulty gap to Normal very far (this part feels like Hard+) I'd suggest to map more 1/1 patterns and notes and not that much 1/2. For now, I am not modding this part. ok i'll see what i can do
  2. 00:23:670 - It is actually okay to add a circle here (-: ok fine lol
  3. 00:35:670 (1) - Missed a hitnormal sound at slidertail. yes
  4. 00:46:723 (5) - Same here. mm
  5. 00:50:512 (1,2) - Blanket? yeaa?
  6. Kiai part lacks customclap, why? ty Sephi
  7. 00:58:091 (1,3) - Blanket could've been done much better. think it's fixed
  8. 01:44:038 (2,3) - too close imo. relatively far enough in this section imo
  9. 02:21:459 (1,2,3) - Eh why. Could you put proper blankets or just do this http://puu.sh/8Xzk6.jpg I mean it looks like "it's barely completed" It's like leaving blankets imperfect on a map. sure
  10. 02:32:512 (3,4) - Too close, notice spacings on previous notes Fixed
  11. 02:45:143 (3) - To make better overlap, the slidertick should be right in the center of 02:44:670 (2) - 's slidertail. That way it looks balanced yes

HabiHolic wrote:

[Sakuya's Hard]

00:36:459 (2) - I think the odd jump. So Ctrl + G i thought about it but I chose to keep it. The cursor flow will help
00:48:064 - suggestion. Why do not you add a break here? it's short enough imo
03:27:080 (4,5,6,7,8) - Repeat to replace your sliders. i think this will make a nice finale

Alarido wrote:

[Sakuya's Hard]
♥ That's a very pleasant diff (for me) tyty
00:15:459 (2) - { Flow | Rhythm } : a Ctrl-G here would improve the flow and add a bit more challenge, while matching the rhythm more fitting (since the song feels good for a little jump between (1,2) and also (2,3) as it does on (3,4). i'll try
02:21:459 (1) - { Nazi } : Move to x:256 y:213, so its head will stack perfectly with the tail of the previous slider. changed this pattern a little
02:40:406 (4) - { Nazi } : Move both the 2nd and the 3rd anchors by 1 grid down, so the blanket with the previous (2,3) objects will be perfect. ok
♥ 03:21:080 (1,2,3,4) - AMAZING PLACEMENT and Flow ^^ (In truth, overall flow in the diff is Amazing :3) xD thxs!

Frostings wrote:

[Sakuya's Hard]
[notice]

  • woah big jump in difficulty from Normal to Hard ;;
    nice symmetry ~
  1. 00:22:722 (1,2) - I know you're following the vocals but this 1/4 snapped slider isn't very nice.. i'll accept this as the little quirk of this part
    I think actually this entire section 00:22:722 (1,2,3,4) - you should follow the drums instead
    You first mapped this 00:20:512 (1,2,3,4,5) - which follows the vocal, but the vocals pretty much follow the drums,
    and then you've mapped 00:22:722 (1,2,3,4) - which also follow the vocals, but the vocals don't follow the drums, so it feels a little weird
    then 00:24:617 (5,6) - this follows drums with 00:25:249 (1,2,3,4,5) - mapping the vocals, but the vocals pretty much follow the drums again
    uh, not sure if you can understand my lack of logic

    basically consider mapping drums here 00:22:722 (1,2,3,4) - instead of vocal for better rhythm I closed the gaps(s) and hope that integrates more of the drum

  2. 00:30:617 (1,2) - ^ kept this part for now
  3. 00:55:249 (6) - maybe clap on this head ty Sephi
  4. 01:53:354 (6) - ^ ^

    nice difficulty :)

Come[Back]Home wrote:

Sakuya's Hard
00:23:670 Add HC think it's ok

Pagno wrote:

[Sakuya's Hard]
Tickrate 1 maybe kept this. The ticks fit well with the undulation of the instruments imo

00:40:249 (6,7,1) - Are you sure you want to put a triplet? In my opinion a hard shouldn't have triplets at all with 'high' bpm
*same with all the next 190BPM triplets* I understand where ur coming from but I ended up keeping these. the transition should flow well enough

02:20:828 (1) - A spinner before this? i'll pass on this

Very nice sliders and patterns! thanks!

-Famous- wrote:

[Sakuya's Hard]

AR 8 for hard? I recommend AR 7. I bumped it up to ar8 bc of the higher note density and bpm

00:19:565 (1) - Remove NC. Fixed

00:34:406 (6) - Add NC. i'll pass. it'll break current consistency

00:48:301 - Maybe add a spinner here. End point: 00:49:880 - remove the slider and add a circle 00:50:196 (1) - there if you add the spinner and remove NC 00:50:512 (1) - here. i'd like to keep the break for more suspense

01:04:880 (5) - Move that circle 2 box left. yes?

01:05:038 (6) - Move that slider to x:48 ; y:264.

01:09:933 (5) - Add NC. again, breaks consistency

01:10:722 (1) - Remove NC. ^

01:55:880 (8) - Add NC. ^

01:56:196 (1) - Remove NC. ^

Yauxo wrote:

[Sakuya's Hard]
  1. 00:42:617 (8) - overlap off by 1y mm
  2. 00:57:301 (5) - i kinda dislike that this combo has a hit on the red tick while the other combos have a empty spot there. I'd say that this should be fixed, but that'd mean that you would have to remap entire sections of the song, so .. uhm .. i guess not. yea i get ya xD I did this to create a feeling of continuity in this part
  3. 01:08:196 (1) - overlap off by 1x
  4. 01:44:670 (3) - I really think this one should be more spaced away from 2. not only isit 0.3 less, but it also feels weird since 2's a repeatable that might be taken as a normal slider that leads into 3 w/o any special timing change (yet it is 1/1 away) Fixed
  5. 02:21:459 (1) - off by 1y
  6. 02:30:933 (5) - tail's overlap off by 1y
  7. 02:35:038 (3) - off by 1x
Thanks for the mods!! xD

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WingSilent
You still need a good bg my friend. :)
Kaguya Hourain
I would rename Insane to Extra, too hard for Insane imo.
Topic Starter
Sephibro
yeah i've been thinking about that for quite some time
WingSilent
Not sure it deserved a kudo btw. :/
I know this is a suggestion but, that is a very weak one.
Minao
Congrats! You won my Lottery mod from modding queue! :) Here is your ticket.

[General]
I see no combo colors for -kevincela-'s Easy, Normal and Extra.
About the background, I know you searched for one on this thread and you said that there is a new one since 17/06, but I still see the same one.
Good mapset!

[-kevincela-'s Easy]
Very good map, only some details to spot:
00:42:933 (1,2) - Blanket can be improved here I think.
01:13:249 (1) - Not very important, but if you put 01:11:985 (2) at 01:12:933, you will see that (1) blanket can be improved.
01:31:564 (2,3) - Ctrl + g on it and you will see that (3) blanket can be improved. But then remove ctrl + g of course ;)
01:54:301 (2) - A very little, but blanket can be improved too.
02:30:301 (2,3) - Can be rearranged to fit better with each other.
02:44:196 (1) - Same than 01:13:249 (1) -> Not very important, but if you put 02:42:932 (2) at 02:43:880, you will see that (1) blanket can be improved.
02:50:511 (2,3,1) - This makes not a perfect triangle and can be improved.
03:14:680 (1,2) - Not very important, if you ctrl + g (1) you will see that (2)'s blanket can be improved just a little.
03:25:080 (3) - Blanket can be improved a very little.

[Normal]
Good map, maybe try to check it again focusing on curves and blanket. Some patterns you use are difficult to curve perfectly because we can't use the "hitcircle no jutsu" to make adjustments. I'll try to spot the most important things I noticed.
00:10:722 (2) - You can improve this blanket by using (3)'s hitcircle as a reference. As an exemple I obtain this: http://puu.sh/9DE0e/d8a1a3b04a.jpg | http://puu.sh/9DE4O/027a875b69.jpg
00:35:354 (1) - Ctrl + g this and you will see that 00:35:985 (2) is not well curved. 00:33:933 (3) has to be changed too according to new (2)'s blanket.
01:23:354 (1) - Blanket can be improved.
01:51:459 (1) - Personnal opinion - Even if it's not distance snapped, you could put this at x:211 | y:125 and rework a little what's next. I feel it adds something different to this part of the song. As the 2 patterns fit together, it's like a link between the 2 parts of the verse.
02:54:301 (1) - Blanket can be improved.

[Sakuya' Hard]
I love it :) Very enjoyable to play.
00:11:038 (4) - Blanket can be improved
00:15:459 (2) - Blanket can be improved to fit better with (4)
00:54:933 (5) - If you ctrl +g (4) and put (5) at 00:54:222 you will see with (4)'s hitcircle that (5) can be curved better.
01:15:459 (5) - Blanket can be improved
01:23:828 (2) - Blanket can be improved just a little
01:57:775 (5) - Maybe place the beginning of this slider at x:254 | y:325 to make a kind of triangle like this? http://puu.sh/9DGeh/1b32f1ec7e.jpg
02:30:301 (4) - If you ctrl + g (3) you will se this blanket can be improved a little.
02:34:091 (1) - Can be easily improved a little too.

[UWS's Insane]
I can't really mod it or have an opinion on it, it's too hard for my current play level.
00:58:091 (1) - Nobody will see it but the blanket can be improved to fit with (2)'s end better.
01:12:301 (2) - Same, to fit with (3)'s end.
01:45:301 (1,2,3) - Why not place it in the continuation of previous circles?

[Extra]
Same than UWS's Insane, I can't really mod it or have an opinion on it because it's too hard for my current play level. I've just nothing to say :o

Good luck for ranking ! :)
yurunneram
From #modreq

you lucky dude, I burnt your current desk so that people will consider buying you a new one



Happy birthday

EASY

AR is quite high for an easy diff. Rhythm is also quite complex to consider this an easy but whatever people let these things pass

Still, you call this easy. I will treat it and give it feedback as an easy diff

00:14:828 (4) - This kinda stacking is hard for beginners

00:35:354 (1) - ^

00:47:985 (1) - Shorten to end at 00:49:564 instead? Cuz not enough time for recovery since this is an easy diff

Why are there timing points at 02:17:038 and 02:17:985 ? There's nothing there!

02:18:933 (1) - Give a lil more recovery time? ;-;

Nicely refined diff

NORMAL

00:23:196 (2) - I think this would be better



00:39:143 (3) - I star for this. And this alone

Not much stuph. I would say something about the rhythm, but I ain't a rhythm person. Possibly the word could be "inconsistent", yet it doesn't seem to be the right word. So I'll just not leave a comment on it since it's beyond my capabilities

HARD

Not much for me to say for this. Was never good at hard diffs

This is a wonderful and clean map. Good luck with rank

That's all from me. Only give kudosu if you made a substantial amount of changes, thx.

You have been modded out by Yurun Ceroia Neram~
Rakuen
( =`・ω・´) AIRakuen 愛楽園 (Mod/GD/M4M)

Sephibro \o

[kevin's Easy]
00:32:828 (1) - nazi DS
00:41:354 (2) - Rotate the slider for a little?
01:26:828 - Circle here to lead rhythm, coz the vocal at 01:27:617 - and 01:27:933 - is off white tick (may not be needed :c)
02:57:775 - ^

[Normal]
00:10:091 (1) - Blanket it like 00:13:249 (2) -
00:31:564 (2) - Fix blanket with 00:30:617 (1) - ?
00:58:406 (1,2) - The vocal is at 1/4, which is 00:58:485 - , for me it doesnt suit
01:30:617 - Feeling this vocal should be a hit
01:49:880 (3) - Make this stop at 01:50:512 - for vocal
^ the add something at 01:50:828 - and 01:51:143 - for like rhythm change
02:18:933 - Suggest to let spinner start here
02:29:433 - As previous, vocal is at 1/4

[Sakuya's Hard]
Good diff *^*
00:30:143 - Add note
00:47:670 (7) - NC?

[UWS's Insane]
Asked not to mod this diff yet

[Extra]
Can't mod :c
For me it's good diff
Topic Starter
Sephibro

Minao wrote:

[General]
I see no combo colors for -kevincela-'s Easy, Normal and Extra.
About the background, I know you searched for one on this thread and you said that there is a new one since 17/06, but I still see the same one. yeah i'm still looking for something great :P
Good mapset!

[Normal]
Good map, maybe try to check it again focusing on curves and blanket. Some patterns you use are difficult to curve perfectly because we can't use the "hitcircle no jutsu" to make adjustments. I'll try to spot the most important things I noticed.
00:10:722 (2) - You can improve this blanket by using (3)'s hitcircle as a reference. As an exemple I obtain this: http://puu.sh/9DE0e/d8a1a3b04a.jpg | http://puu.sh/9DE4O/027a875b69.jpg i slightly adjusted it
00:35:354 (1) - Ctrl + g this and you will see that 00:35:985 (2) is not well curved. 00:33:933 (3) has to be changed too according to new (2)'s blanket. fixed!
01:23:354 (1) - Blanket can be improved. done
01:51:459 (1) - Personnal opinion - Even if it's not distance snapped, you could put this at x:211 | y:125 and rework a little what's next. I feel it adds something different to this part of the song. As the 2 patterns fit together, it's like a link between the 2 parts of the verse. i like that blanket, i've had this idea a couple times already but i don't know how to develop it properly
02:54:301 (1) - Blanket can be improved. done

[Extra]
Same than UWS's Insane, I can't really mod it or have an opinion on it because it's too hard for my current play level. I've just nothing to say :o

Good luck for ranking ! :)
Thank you! :)
Sakura
Did some IRC modding with the mapper's own diffs, will do a full mod some other time since due to diff spread issues is still missing an Insane anyway.

"Chatlog"
14:44 Sakura: hmm i can already tell you this has difficulty spread problem
14:45 Sakura: So before you proceed forward asking for more mods you might want to take care of that
14:45 Sakura: it can be solved easily by adding an Insane of about 3.9-4.4 stars to fill the gap between Hard and Inferno
14:46 Sephibro: yeah there used to be an Insane by UnitedWeSin but he didn't like it anymore so he asked me to delete it
14:46 Sephibro: btw is diff spread really so important?
14:46 Sakura: Yeah, so it can accomodate to all players
14:46 Sakura: it's part of the ranking criteria
14:47 Sephibro: there are a lot of maps in which the last diff is much harder than the hard
14:47 Sakura: I am aware, but that was most likely before the new star rating system
14:47 Sakura: where everything was 5 stars
14:47 Sakura: so it was hard to tell
14:47 Sephibro: I'll try to convince UnitedWeSin then
14:48 Sakura: either that or get another Insane, most mappers should be able to map an average difficulty Insane fine
14:48 Sephibro: or i'll make a new insane
14:48 Sakura: but yeah, it's better to take care of that before asking for more mods so all modders will take a look at that Insane as well
14:49 Sakura: you got a good sense of rythm tho, Inferno plays very well with the song
14:50 Sephibro: thank you :)
14:50 Sakura: 00:46:564 (10,11,12,1,2,3) - I specially like this pattern here
14:50 Sephibro: i am graduated in solfeggio
14:50 Sakura: because of the pause in the music makes sense with the stack there
14:51 Sephibro: idk if it's called solfeggio there
14:51 Sakura: 01:03:143 (3,4,5,6,7) - Other parts like this one could be improved, the shape looks like it was trying to make something but feels misaligned
14:51 Sakura: more so the 3 feels like out of place
14:52 Sakura: http://puu.sh/cQIvo/cbfff9f22c.jpg if you move it aligning it with 4 and 7, looks much better
14:53 Sakura: http://puu.sh/cQIyw/958229b7ab.jpg Then you could move the whole pattern down like this and then you have these 2 patterns put together
14:55 Sakura: 01:24:459 (6,1) - If you're already centering 6 you could move 1 further left to form a triangle (also moving that whole pattern) if you prefer
14:55 Sakura: Since you already have a triangle with 2,3,4
14:56 Sakura: 01:44:828 (1,2,3,4) - I like this triplet anti-jump idea btw
14:56 Sephibro: these are all good suggestions
14:57 Sakura: 02:01:328 (1) - This could also do better with a finish hitsound
14:57 Sakura: since already there's an enphasis in the music on the point it ends at
14:58 Sakura: 02:34:091 (3,4,5,6,7) - Here you do the same pattern from earlier, so you can use the same suggestion from before
14:58 Sephibro: yeah i wasn't too satisfied with them
14:59 Sephibro: you gave me a nice suggestion
14:59 Sakura: I like the decrescendo on the last spinner
15:00 Sephibro: :)
15:00 Sakura: On the normal i'd suggest AR+1 already, it feels kinda slow for the pace of the song
15:01 Sephibro: ar 6?
15:01 Sephibro: uhm
15:01 Sephibro: maybe 5.something
15:02 Sephibro: 6+hr+dt is almost ar10
15:02 Sakura: 5.5 i guess
15:03 Sephibro: yeah
15:03 Sakura: it's just that it feels im waiting too long for the approach circles to reach the circles, kinda like in an Easy
15:04 Sakura: but the Hard uses AR8 so having normal with AR5.5 feels kinda awkward
15:05 Sephibro: i might remap the kiai of the normal
15:05 Sakura: Insane's probably going to have somewhere between 8 and 9
15:05 Sephibro: im totally not satisfied of it
15:06 Sephibro: the hard is pretty hard for being a hard
15:07 Sephibro: and i guess insane would be fine with ar9
15:07 Sephibro: or near
15:07 Sephibro: inferno has 9.3
15:07 Sephibro: i couldn't choose among 9.3 and 9.4
15:07 Sakura: [Normal] 00:48:143 (1,1) - This here is unrankable, you need at least 2 beats from the end of the spinner to give enough recovery time for a Normal
15:08 Sakura: and these numbers are based off a 160 bpm song xD
15:08 Sephibro: lol
15:08 Sephibro: well i guess i'll just delete that spinner then :P
15:08 Sakura: could just remove 1 and 2 or replace the spinner with a slider
15:09 Sakura: or put a pause there or something
15:09 Sakura: either way yeah
15:09 Sephibro: deleting that spinner and putting a circle where it used to end
15:09 Sakura: rule of thumb is Easy = 4 beats, Normal = 2 beats, Hard = 1 Beat, Insane or higher = Anything goes
15:10 Sephibro: 02:16:406 (1) -
15:11 Sephibro: i guess here it goes the same
15:11 Sephibro: but it's 1 beat and half :P:P
15:11 Sakura: yeah, same
15:11 Sakura: yeah, i know, but as i said, these numbers are based off 160 bpm, this one's faster so if anything it'd need to have more recovery time in terms of beats
15:14 Sakura: yeah i think that's about it
15:14 Sakura: I'll save the modding of the guest diffs for until i do a full mod when you have the Insane, etc
15:14 Sakura: i'll save log and post this to document the changes
15:14 Sakura: and good luck with your map, you've done better than most new mappers ^_^
Topic Starter
Sephibro
I remapped kiais on Normal diff and followed your suggestions!

I'll work on Inferno diff now
Alarido
Hi Seph ^^

Interested on improvement of some patterns on [Inferno] diff ???

Let's go !

[Inferno]
00:17:670 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Would be great if you could make Ctrl-G on 00:17:985 (1,2) - to make it more regular pattern (zig-zag flow instead of a polygonal-oval one).
Sincerely, I don't recommend make Ctrl-G on 00:18:617 (1,2) - because (2) stacked on the next slider (1) would make this part very very easier, unbalancing difficulty (unless you are planning to do it on purpose).

00:50:512 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - My only complaint here would be about the last note on 00:51:933 (4) - Really, it's very difficult to choose where place it. For example [a], putting 00:51:933 (4) - on x:176 y:184 would make an awkward flow, if you consider the pattern's flow before it. The place where it lies currently (i.e., x:360 y:244) feels perfect for me, so dont change it -- unless a couple of BAT/QAT members tell you to change anything here.

00:53:828 (6,7,8,1,2,3) - For an Hard or even Insane diff, it's perfect. But for an Extra diff, it can be improved a lot! Simply make Ctrl-G on 00:53:985 (7,8) - and, then make another Ctrl-G on 00:54:301 (1,2) - making the flow this way (see picture #1 > http://puu.sh/dBvCb/299348cde7.jpg ).
If you want improve even more after these two steps, you can add another Ctrl-G inverting (2) and (3), making the flow better as you can see here > http://puu.sh/dBvR8/9ae2d9db04.jpg

01:09:775 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - It feels perfect for me. Don't change it, unless a BAT/QAT tells you to do some change.

01:13:880 (3,1,2,1,2,3) - It feels perfect to me too. ^

02:23:038 (1,2,3,1) - PERFECT, no need change.

02:50:196 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - A bit awkward... If the song allowed, you could move 02:50:512 (5) - to x:304 y:296, 02:50:670 (6) - to x:316 y:116, 02:50:828 (7) - to x:376 y:260, and 02:50:985 (8) - to x:244 y:152. More regular one.

02:54:301 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - A bit jonathanlfj presence... feels perfect to me (:

03:11:880 (2,3) - Invert these two sliders by moving them on TIMELINE (don't use Ctrl-G). This way > http://puu.sh/dBwvj/8a9b57a56c.jpg

Just looked at Extra diff this time (:

Let's RANK this map, BATS !!!!

Sakuya's Hard feels very good too, (for the level I can play hehe)

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Topic Starter
Sephibro
thank you very much Alarido! I had already modified some of the patterns, but i followed your suggestions on every other pattern!
:)
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When is this getting ranked!?? Have my star!~
puffball
WHY CANT THIS BE RANKED QAQ
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