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Kano - Ama no Jaku [Taiko]

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LunaticP
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2013年9月26日 at 16:12:05

Artist: Kano
Title: Ama no Jaku
Source: niconico
Tags: kano Ama no Jaku taiko
BPM: 200
Filesize: 5101kb
Play Time: 03:06
Difficulties Available:
  1. Futsuu (4.2 stars, 444 notes)
  2. Kantan (1.51 stars, 208 notes)
  3. Muzukashii (4.61 stars, 871 notes)
  4. Oni (4.83 stars, 1155 notes)
Download: Kano - Ama no Jaku
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Oni -done
Muzu-done
Futsuu-done
Kantan-done
Timing by baka
meetmeetdee
好沙發,不搶嗎? :D
OzzyOzrock
[General]
Turn off letterbox and countdown.
01:28:318 - unsnapped kiai

[Oni]
Someone's gonna come tell you that 5OD and 5HP is too low. At least raise them up one.
I wouldn't recommend volume changes in taiko. Consider this.

00:19:462 (81,82,83,84,85,86) - k k ddd k
- 00:20:212 - add d
- 00:20:362 (88) - remove
00:39:562 (236) - k
00:59:662 (365) - d
02:39:440 (1001) - remove
- 02:39:732 add k
02:40:096 (1006,1007,1008,1009) - k kkd
02:40:680 (1011) - k

Nice diff.
[Muzukashii]
There are two 'i's in Muzukashii!
This song is 200 bpm, even though there is not much 1/4, some players may have trouble with long 1/2 patterns.
00:11:662 (31) - k
00:42:562 (199) - k (to be simpler
- 00:43:162 (203,204,205) - d d k
02:44:108 (170,171,172,173,174,175,176,177,178,179) - make this a roll or something, it's weird

It's fine though.
[Fuutsu]
00:22:912 (48) - move to the white tick behind it
00:27:112 (59,60) - these to the white ticks above (weird rhythm)
00:35:212 (79) - white above, etc. rhythms like these are just weird. when it comes to fuutsu and kantan, try not to follow rhythms like these. Some red ticks are ok, but many parts when you follow guitar or something, it's just bad.

[Kantan]
Drum rolls at this speed are insanely fast. Could easily be replaced by either a spinner or simple notes.

Not how kantans usually are, and sort of a big gap from fuutsu, but it's fine.

Pretty good set, good luck!
Dainesl
More mods!

Blue: Things I really like
Green: Things I like, but might want you to change if it seems unfitting
Black: Suggestions
Purple: Things I think you should change, but you don't need to.
Orange: Things I think are important to change, and if you don't, I WANT TO KNOW WHY.
Red: Unrankable things, or things that you must change.

General

Difficulty settings seem to be making a pattern but they're not, you should either accomodate for Ozzy's mod by making the settings:
Kantan: HP/OD 3
Futsuu: HP/OD 4
Muzukashii: HP/OD 5
Oni: HP/OD 6

or you could lower all those values by one to accomodate for the current Oni diff settings of 5/5.

01:28:320 - Kiai Time end isn't snapped, this needs to be fixed!

Also, THERE ARE TWO I'S IN MUZUKASHII. GET IT CORRECT!

Kantan

00:16:162 (12) - I think you should change this to a kat purely for consistency with the song and the other notes.

00:24:562 (21) - This seems to fit better as a spinner, and as Ozzy said, the drum rolls are really fast.

00:35:962 (29) - Like the first suggestion, change to a kat for consistency.

01:24:754 (95) - 01:28:318 (100) - Like the other spinner suggestion.

01:10:688 - 01:28:318 - There's quite a bit of imbalance here as there are some segments which are pretty dense for a Kantan and there's some segments that aren't so dense. I would recommend balancing the notes if possible.

01:33:070 (106) - This seems like it should be a kat, again, consistency.

01:55:727 (141) - This slider seems better as a spinner, exact same reason as before.

02:04:649 (149) - This should be a kat I think, because the singer's pitch increases here.

02:07:619 - 02:17:171 - You couldn't have mapped this part of the song even a bit? There's certainly room for at least 15 notes here.

02:19:571 (3) - This desperately calls for a kat, since the pitch is quite high, and needs that bit of emphasis.

02:21:971 (6) - Slider -> Spinner, need I explain why?

02:25:571 (8) - I like this slider, because it fits with the fluctuation of the instruments, but maybe other modders might want you to make it a spinner.

02:33:806 (23) - Make this a kat, since this note has some emphasis behind it.

02:40:825 (37) - :!: Um, is it only me or is this slider bugged to hell and back?

02:45:601 (42) - Slider -> spinner, as usual...because it fits with the music, blablabla.

02:50:360 (45) - ^

02:52:740 - 03:07:018 - I think you should map this bit as well for consistency between diffs, this just doesn't seem right :|

I think this Kantan really needs attention to become something great. Keep getting mods and you'll get a great mapset!

Futsuu

00:08:062 (9) - This extra note here seems awkward, move it to 00:08:362 - or add a note at that point. If you follow the latter, remove 00:09:862 (14) -

00:11:662 (19) - This seems like it should be a kat for consistency with the song.

00:14:362 - Seems like there should be a note here since it's an audible part of the song.

00:27:112 (59,60) - This really seems like it should be moved half a beat forward, because this is really awkward for a Futsuu, even if it fits.

00:28:762 - I would like to see a note here, 'cause it really would fit here.

00:36:262 (81,82) - To maintain flow, move these half a beat forward, then remove some notes in this pattern: 00:37:162 (83,84,85,86,87,88,89) -

00:44:362 - Add a note here to maintain flow with the music!

00:50:362 (117) - Move this one beat back, because it fits with the music better!

00:50:662 - Add a note here, it fits well.

00:52:162 - Audible beat here, place a note!

00:55:762 - ^

00:57:112 (134) - Kind of awkward for a Futsuu, move back to the downbeat.

00:58:162 - What up with the gap here?

00:59:362 - Again, what up with the gap?

01:10:688 - 01:28:318 - This part's really good, you should learn from this part and try to influence it to make a brilliant lowdiff.

01:37:674 (23,24) - Eh...it fits but it just seems out of place in a Futsuu...try moving them a half-beat back?

02:01:382 - Maybe you could place a note here to fit with the song.

02:43:063 (90,91) - These should be moved half a beat forward to fit with the song and to make the pattern more fun to play.

02:44:108 (1) - End this spinner one beat earlier, it just sounds much better. Also add a note where the spinner originally ended.

I dislike the start of this Futsuu but I really really like the second half, it seems as if it was made by a different person :roll:

Muzukashii

00:16:612 (55) - Maybe you could remove this note.

00:19:312 (70) - ^

00:41:362 (187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195,196,197,198,199,200,201) - This pattern's kinda long for a Muzu, remove 190, 194 and 198.

00:45:412 (210) - Remove this, this doesn't fit IMO.

00:46:612 (216,217) - Maybe move these two notes back half a beat?

01:50:652 - I would say you should add a kat here.

02:45:749 (175) - Maybe you could remove this.

02:46:615 (178,179) - :!: This is stupid and unnecessary, remove 178 ASAP.

Not a bad Muzukashii, but it's kinda hard ;~; also that unrankable thing, fix it now.

Oni

00:23:962 (113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120,121) - This might be better as a ddkkddkkd pattern.

01:06:187 - Add a note here to get the swingy feel of this section of the song!

01:15:591 (471) -I would recommend removing this note, it doesn't seem to fit.

01:41:100 - 01:41:249 - Maybe add notes here?

01:50:652 - ^

02:25:865 (884) - A d seems to fit more in this scenario!

03:06:572 - Maybe you could add a note here!

Nice Oni :)

The lowdiffs need some work, try getting help from people who are knowledgeable on the Kantan/Futsuu diffs.
Topic Starter
LunaticP

Dainesl wrote:

More mods!

Blue: Things I really like
Green: Things I like, but might want you to change if it seems unfitting
Black: Suggestions
Purple: Things I think you should change, but you don't need to.
Orange: Things I think are important to change, and if you don't, I WANT TO KNOW WHY.
Red: Unrankable things, or things that you must change.

General

Difficulty settings seem to be making a pattern but they're not, you should either accomodate for Ozzy's mod by making the settings:
Kantan: HP/OD 3
Futsuu: HP/OD 4
Muzukashii: HP/OD 5
Oni: HP/OD 6

or you could lower all those values by one to accomodate for the current Oni diff settings of 5/5.

01:28:320 - Kiai Time end isn't snapped, this needs to be fixed!

Also, THERE ARE TWO I'S IN MUZUKASHII. GET IT CORRECT!

Kantan

00:16:162 (12) - I think you should change this to a kat purely for consistency with the song and the other notes.

00:24:562 (21) - This seems to fit better as a spinner, and as Ozzy said, the drum rolls are really fast.

00:35:962 (29) - Like the first suggestion, change to a kat for consistency.

01:24:754 (95) - 01:28:318 (100) - Like the other spinner suggestion.

01:10:688 - 01:28:318 - There's quite a bit of imbalance here as there are some segments which are pretty dense for a Kantan and there's some segments that aren't so dense. I would recommend balancing the notes if possible.

01:33:070 (106) - This seems like it should be a kat, again, consistency.

01:55:727 (141) - This slider seems better as a spinner, exact same reason as before.

02:04:649 (149) - This should be a kat I think, because the singer's pitch increases here.

02:07:619 - 02:17:171 - You couldn't have mapped this part of the song even a bit? There's certainly room for at least 15 notes here.

02:19:571 (3) - This desperately calls for a kat, since the pitch is quite high, and needs that bit of emphasis.

02:21:971 (6) - Slider -> Spinner, need I explain why?

02:25:571 (8) - I like this slider, because it fits with the fluctuation of the instruments, but maybe other modders might want you to make it a spinner.

02:33:806 (23) - Make this a kat, since this note has some emphasis behind it.

02:40:825 (37) - :!: Um, is it only me or is this slider bugged to hell and back?

02:45:601 (42) - Slider -> spinner, as usual...because it fits with the music, blablabla.

02:50:360 (45) - ^

02:52:740 - 03:07:018 - I think you should map this bit as well for consistency between diffs, this just doesn't seem right :|

I think this Kantan really needs attention to become something great. Keep getting mods and you'll get a great mapset!

Futsuu

00:08:062 (9) - This extra note here seems awkward, move it to 00:08:362 - or add a note at that point. If you follow the latter, remove 00:09:862 (14) -

00:11:662 (19) - This seems like it should be a kat for consistency with the song.

00:14:362 - Seems like there should be a note here since it's an audible part of the song.

00:27:112 (59,60) - This really seems like it should be moved half a beat forward, because this is really awkward for a Futsuu, even if it fits.

00:28:762 - I would like to see a note here, 'cause it really would fit here.

00:36:262 (81,82) - To maintain flow, move these half a beat forward, then remove some notes in this pattern: 00:37:162 (83,84,85,86,87,88,89) -

00:44:362 - Add a note here to maintain flow with the music!

00:50:362 (117) - Move this one beat back, because it fits with the music better!

00:50:662 - Add a note here, it fits well.

00:52:162 - Audible beat here, place a note!

00:55:762 - ^

00:57:112 (134) - Kind of awkward for a Futsuu, move back to the downbeat.

00:58:162 - What up with the gap here?

00:59:362 - Again, what up with the gap?

01:10:688 - 01:28:318 - This part's really good, you should learn from this part and try to influence it to make a brilliant lowdiff.

01:37:674 (23,24) - Eh...it fits but it just seems out of place in a Futsuu...try moving them a half-beat back?

02:01:382 - Maybe you could place a note here to fit with the song.

02:43:063 (90,91) - These should be moved half a beat forward to fit with the song and to make the pattern more fun to play.

02:44:108 (1) - End this spinner one beat earlier, it just sounds much better. Also add a note where the spinner originally ended.

I dislike the start of this Futsuu but I really really like the second half, it seems as if it was made by a different person :roll:

Muzukashii

00:16:612 (55) - Maybe you could remove this note.

00:19:312 (70) - ^

00:41:362 (187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195,196,197,198,199,200,201) - This pattern's kinda long for a Muzu, remove 190, 194 and 198.

00:45:412 (210) - Remove this, this doesn't fit IMO.

00:46:612 (216,217) - Maybe move these two notes back half a beat?

01:50:652 - I would say you should add a kat here.

02:45:749 (175) - Maybe you could remove this.

02:46:615 (178,179) - :!: This is stupid and unnecessary, remove 178 ASAP.

Not a bad Muzukashii, but it's kinda hard ;~; also that unrankable thing, fix it now.

Oni

00:23:962 (113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120,121) - This might be better as a ddkkddkkd pattern.

01:06:187 - Add a note here to get the swingy feel of this section of the song!

01:15:591 (471) -I would recommend removing this note, it doesn't seem to fit.

01:41:100 - 01:41:249 - Maybe add notes here?

01:50:652 - ^

02:25:865 (884) - A d seems to fit more in this scenario!

03:06:572 - Maybe you could add a note here!

Nice Oni :)

The lowdiffs need some work, try getting help from people who are knowledgeable on the Kantan/Futsuu diffs.

Looks like a lot of notes bugged after my last update
AniMe666_old
Taiko request from here queue

[Kantan]

* 00:22:143 - I don't think offset is exactly correct at 00:22:162 and this is same for all other diffs at only these points
from start until 01:02:943 - and start new bpm at this point
* OV, HD 3 or 4
* 00:17:362 - k → d
* 00:18:562 - d → k
* 00:19:162 - delete
* 00:20:362 - add d
* 00:32:962 - d → k
* 00:39:562 - delete d
* 00:40:762 - add note
* 01:14:786 - k → d
* 01:19:469 - delete d
* 01:36:041 - delete d
* 01:41:399 - d → k
* 01:42:593 - k → d
* 02:34:982 - d → k
* 02:35:571 - delete

[Futsuu]

* 00:05:962 - idea of deleting d
* 00:28:462 - move to 00:28:762
* 00:29:062 - delete k
* 00:49:462 - d → k
* 00:50:962 - idea of k d k d k d d d k d → d k  d k d d (k) k d
* 01:07:001 - D → k
* 01:07:440 - D → d
* 01:07:732 - d → k
* 01:13:908 - k → d
* 01:16:542 - d → k
* 01:17:713 - d k d k d → k d k d k or k k d k d
* 01:19:761 - k → d
* 01:22:835 - k → d
* 01:23:274 - k k → k d or d k
* 01:35:744 - add note
* 02:40:242 - k → d

[Muzukashii]

* 00:39:712 - move to 00:39:562
* 02:56:161 - move to 02:56:012
* 03:01:366 - move to 03:01:218

[Oni]

* 01:29:209 - kiai time finishing here ?
* 03:06:721 - add finish
* 02:58:094 - d → k
* 00:27:787 - move to 00:27:637
* 00:27:712 - d → k
* 00:27:862 - k → d
* 00:28:462 - d → k
* 00:28:537 - move to 00:28:687
* 00:28:612 - k → d
* 00:28:162 - until followed the guitar part 00:29:812 - ddk d k dkk d k → ddk k d kkd d k
* 00:25:162 = 00:30:112 = 00:34:612 - ? this is not a point of mod but, normally it should start with same downbeat colour and I don't know why it is defferent. Maybe I am thinking too much however, possibly if there is a bpm or offset problem there will be a change on setting notes so, just worring.
* 01:18:152 - k → d
* 01:19:615 - add note
* 01:19:908 - add note
* 02:39:950 - d k → k d
* 02:40:534 - d k k d → k d k d
* 02:43:063 - d k k   k k   k k → k d k   d k   d k


- _ゝ◡)
tetsutaro

港人就中文mod囉~

:!: 背景圖下移見到臉,現在的位置有*****的傾向
:!: Tag 中識別所有原作者,否則可以被提告:原作曲 164 原歌唱 GUMI 作圖 鳥越タクミ
:!: 原影片轉連: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21543842
:!: Tags: kano Ama no Jaku 曲名、歌唱已有,刪

:idea: 目測難度:梅級2★ / 竹級7★ / 松級8★ / 鬼級10★
:!: CS, AR 不可用作修改自動生出的難度。反正太鼓譜面的自動生出難度都沒人管,就把你自己目測的難度寫在描述就好
:!: 本身200 BPM但感覺接近100BPM,<松級> 減少16分。
:!: <鬼級> 歌曲本身沒Hurtling Boys複雜,譜面就不要扮有那麼複雜。
:idea: 建議難度組:<梅級> 4/5/5/4 <竹級> 5/5/5/5 <松級> 5/5/5/6 <鬼級> 6/5/5/6
:!: 多數部分著重點混亂

<梅級> 02:52:740~ - 繼續譜
<竹級> 01:57:816 (110) - 刪。與 01:29:209 等對應
<竹級> 02:43:063 (90,91,92) - 前移1/2
<竹級> 02:44:108 (1) - 旋轉音符非必要打,不可代替普通音符

不成氣候哩,給我回去修行再回來
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