This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Thursday, August 27, 2009 at 1:35:19 PM

Artist: Tsunami Bomb
Title: The Invasion From Within
Source: Disgaea
Tags: enta Disgaea Tsunami Bomb
BPM: 180
Filesize: 6034kb
Play Time: 02:23
Difficulties Available:

1. Beauty Queen Ultimate Overlord (4.8 stars, 320 notes)
2. Demon Lord (4.15 stars, 248 notes)
3. Etna's Vassal, Shinde (4.97 stars, 263 notes)
4. Prinny (2.18 stars, 165 notes)

Download: Tsunami Bomb - The Invasion From Within
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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ready for mods
BIG update!

timing pretty ezpz

two sections though

BPM: 90.00
Offset: 16,204

BPM: 90.65
Offset: 26870

I didn't super fine tune it but it certainly sounds good enough to me

BPM 90.000
Off 16,200

BPM 90.900
Off 25,532

BPM 90.750
Off 32,132

BPM 90.650
Off 37,421

I recommend these colors.

[Colours]
Combo1 : 0,0,0
Combo2 : 155,0,0
Combo3 : 89,20,131
Combo4 : 244,122,0

Attached Minimal's Hitcircle approach cause I didn't make one and I don't know how this'd look using a different approach. I think it looks good with the hitcircle and overlay I made also. Tell me what you think so I can tweak anything.

Uhh. I think that's everything?

Edit: Alternatively, you could force skin this map to minimal or however that goes.

This is the new overlay.

Add this into the .osu files for both difficulties.

[Colours]
Combo1 : 87,43,142
Combo2 : 151,0,0
Combo3 : 136,51,123
SliderBorder : 200,185,130

^ Finally figured it out.

I think that's it then. Lol, I am learning so much from all these skinning attempts. Go me. This has been 3 hours interestingly spent.

I'll mod your difficulties when you're done with them, just yell at me. Til then, I think I'll make one myself sometime if that's okay?

Edit: I wanted to make a Prinny spin wheel thing, but I don't think it's within my capabilities and software atm. If I did it'd probably just look fugly.

EditEdit: Here's what I have of my difficulty so far. I now have Photoshop CS2 again, so I can finally delete GIMP, lol. D: So anyways, tell me what you think. I ended up making an Etna Slider style beatmap, which I thought was kinda funny due to her name being Etna also. Plus I thought it'd be fun.

CW is such a baller at timing songs.



Download: Tsunami Bomb - The Invasion From Within (ztrot) [Shinde's Etna].osu

Download: Disgaea v1.0.rar

WHAT.

I enjoy partially modding on IRC.

Here is the stuff from irc:
Demoness:
00:36:26 (1,2,3) - this looks ugly with 1 not aligned with 3 or the rest of the combo
00:40:23 (3,4) - incorrect spacing
01:10:34 (4,1) - unexpected jump, this is a problem because you got rid of a lot of jumps of this nature

Edit:
Prinny
00:33:45 (2) - make a horizontal reflection of the start of 3 or turn off grid snap and center between 1 and 3
00:53:30 (1) - align with 4
01:00:58 (5,6,7) - make a straight line?
01:11:17 (4) - align with 3?

Demon:
move stack leniency closer to rarely stack
00:30:15 (3,4) - make parallel to 1,2
00:34:11 (7) - align with 6?
00:40:56 (4,5,6) - make a straight line
01:42:94 (2) - make a horizontal reflection of 1
01:57:17 (1,2) - it looks weird when this is not parallel to 5,6

Demoness:
00:45:69 (2) - align with 6
00:53:80 (3,4,5) - make 5 the same distance from 4 that 3 is
01:08:36 (2) - I don't like how this is a different distance from 3 that 4 is, but this is going to be hard to fix
01:21:10 (1) - move 1 grid (3) up to make the sliders follow a constant pattern
01:22:42 (1) - y is this 1 gird(3) further right than all the other sliders in general location
01:44:60 (2) - make a vertical reflection of 1
01:51:71 (3,4,5) - make 5 the same distance from 4 that 3 is
02:23:48 (2) - make the same distance from 3 that 1 is

Shinde:
01:17:13 (1) - spacing is slightly disorienting here

[Skin]
Maybe make reverse arrow glow a little, first time didn't notice it

[Prinny]
00:57:60 (4,1) - align?
01:01:24 (7,1) - ^
01:05:22 (1,2,3) - not perfectly symetric
01:11:83 (1,2,3) - ARGH awful! symetry bro!
01:43:60 (1,2,3,4) - symetry
01:47:58 (4,1) - align?
02:02:14 (1,2) - symetry

[Demon]
00:29:49 (1,2,3,4,5) - not regular, the "lines" are not parallel
00:37:75 (3,4) - align
00:48:01 (9,1) - ^
01:38:14 (5,1) -
^01:58:50 (5,6,7) - considering the previous notes, they are a little too spaced, no?
02:08:43 (4) - WTF STACK THIS

[Demoness]
00:39:90 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - Omagad
00:53:96 (4,8) - either put these on the exact center of others, or move others (1 side)
00:54:63 (8,1) - and then , align
01:03:89 (1,7) - stack
01:44:27 (1,2) - symetry
02:16:70 (1,2) - align
02:19:35 (1) - WTF with the slider control points

[Shinde]
01:50:39 (6,1) - stack?
02:23:32 (1,1,1) - symetry

Nice map~
have my star!

00:39:90 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) -

Sushi971 wrote:

[Skin]
Maybe make reverse arrow glow a little, first time didn't notice it It's still in the works. ;o I don't know how up to date the skin is atm, but I've been working on it like crazy. I'm pretty aware of the flaws atm, and I've already changed it, just haven't bothered ztrot with it yet.

[Shinde]
01:50:39 (6,1) - stack? Mkay I guess that works too.
02:23:32 (1,1,1) - symetry What? One grid right, I believe?

Thanks for looking at it. ^^

Also, ztrot, entire skin is complete minus countdown, mod buttons, and the score letters. (And some retouching work.) Should be done tomorrow evening or the day after depending on how busy I am for the 4th.

Also, still need to do hitsounds on my difficulty, I'll work on that sometime after the skin's totally done.

Edit: Here's the link by the way.

Download: Tsunami Bomb - The Invasion From Within (ztrot) [Shinde's Etna].osu

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[General]
The hitcircleselect.png is NOT necessary and made it hard to see the selected note.
Isn't that the skull from Gurren Lagann?

[Prinny]
01:17:13 (6) - Kinda too close to the top, which isn't so good especially for an easy difficulty.
00:37:75 - Reinsert break.
01:20:11 - ^
01:46:91 (2,3,4) - Not a big fan of stacks in easy difficutlies.
01:59:49 (4) - Spacing, this is easy, so no strange spacing. >.>

[Demon]
00:24:69 - Reinsert break.
00:57:93 - ^
01:20:11 - ^
02:01:81 - ^

[Demoness]
This is insane. D:
00:21:950 - Reinsert break.

[Shinde's Etna]
Nothing important~

[Skin Fixes]
Add a glow to the buttons it's too sharp.
And a lighting, use it only if you like it's effect:


lol, just right click and save it to the folder for now. Just realized it won't show well.

*'d

Note: I modded this from yesterday night's version, so somethings might have been covered before then.

Alex0686 wrote:

[General]
The hitcircleselect.png is NOT necessary and made it hard to see the selected note. Yeah I already nixed that in the updated skin. I just haven't posted everything cause it's still not 100% done. I just made it at the time to go with the gold borders.
Isn't that the skull from Gurren Lagann? Don't know, don't watch Gurren Lagann. This skull was a recolored and rotated cutout from a Disgaea keychain. I think they do look similar, but I can't remember what the Gurren Lagann skull looks like.

[Shinde's Etna]
Nothing important~

[Skin Fixes]
Add a glow to the buttons it's too sharp.
And a lighting, use it only if you like it's effect:
[attachment=0:56760]lighting.png[/attachment:56760] That hitcircle creates a glass see through effect, with the hitcircle being the color of the note due it being white, and there being no white outside the main hitcircle part to be colored. You gotta use black for that part. I got the idea though, I did a slight blur so it's less sharp, I don't think it's too noticeable, but it looks a little softened now.

lol, just right click and save it to the folder for now. Just realized it won't show well.

*'d

Note: I modded this from yesterday night's version, so somethings might have been covered before then.

To be honest I'm not sure what's all in the beatmap's version of the skin atm. I'm still working on it, so any future mods, don't worry about the skin too much. ztrot you should put that in the first post since they're more likely to read that than this. ;D

Andd the rest of that post goes to ztrot, so whenever he comes around I'm sure he'll take a look at it and pop a kudosu your way.

I Love Disgaea *__*

and awesome skin ^^

now, a *star*

[Prinny]
lolz at Prinny in slider <3
00:18:86 (1) - Finish
00:26:85 (1,2,3) - Take out all finishes but not the 3
00:26:85 (1) -Whistle might be good here...
00:28:83 (4) - And end of here...
00:31:47 (3) - Finish the beginning only
^ these apply to all that go in the pattern
00:36:76 (3,4,5) - nothing nothing then finish
00:48:01 (3) - Finish at end?
00:49:99 (5) - Take out Finish here
00:52:31 (3,4) - nothing then clap
00:54:63 (5) - no finish here
00:57:60 (4) - Clap sounds a bit better...
01:06:54 (5) - Don't finish the beginning
01:09:19 (1,2,3) - Whistle nothing finish
01:11:83 (1,2,3) - ^
01:11:17 (4) - Finish here
01:18:45 (1,2,3,4,5) - All whistles than finish? whistles or no hitsounds at all...but the last one
01:27:72 (1) - Finish on 2nd repeat
01:31:03 (2) - Finish
01:34:34 (3) - ^
01:35:66 (5) - ^
01:40:30 (4) - ^ but not on 6
01:42:28 (1,2) - Whistles
[ lol I think I see a happy face ]
01:48:90 (1) - that whistle nothing finish pattern thing might go good around here
01:59:49 (4) - Finish end not beginning
02:07:43 (1) - Finish
02:10:08 (1) - ^
02:12:07 (4,5) - Finish Whistle?

[Demoness]
00:18:20 (8) - No finishes
00:18:86 (1) - Finish here
00:26:85 (1) - Finish only the ending
00:28:17 (1) - ^
00:29:49 (1) - ^
00:30:81 (1) - ^
00:31:63 (2) - No finishes on this one
00:32:13 (1) - only ending
00:42:05 (1) - Only finish the ending
00:44:37 (1) - ^
00:48:01 (3) - Finish at ending too...
00:50:65 (1) - Finish beginning and end
00:54:63 (8) - ^
00:56:45 (4) - Clap the whole thing?
00:57:93 (1) - Whistle might be nice here
00:59:09 (4) - Claps
00:59:92 (8,1) - Whistle on beginning and end
01:09:19 (1) - Only finish the end
01:10:51 (1) - ^
01:11:34 (2) - Don't like finishes on this thing
01:11:83 (1) - Only finish the end
01:13:16 (1) - ^
01:14:48 (1) - ^
01:15:81 (1) - Finish on end
01:17:13 (1) - Finish
01:21:10 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Whistle the start of these sliders? It adds a somewhat...intense effect
01:25:57 (2) - Finish the end?
01:29:04 (6) - Finish
01:31:03 (3) - Finish
01:31:03 (3) - Finish only the end
01:35:66 (6) - ^
[ lol I gave you a break...fill in the blanks with some hitsounds ]
02:01:14 (1,2,3) - Whistles
02:07:43 (1) - Finish
02:10:08 (1) - ^
02:12:73 (1) - Finish only the beginning now
02:14:05 (1) - ^
02:15:37 (1) - ^
02:16:70 (1) - ^
02:18:02 (1) - ^
02:23:32 (1,2,3) - Whistles?

[Demon]
00:37:75 (3) - Whistle doesn't sound good on the sliders around here
I'll just give tips on this one...lol
Don't use too many finishes...
whistle on yelling parts...blah...

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[overall]
i don't like the reverse arrows, they are kinda hard to see...

[prinny]
00:37:75 - reinsert break

[demon]
00:24:70 - reinsert break
00:57:94 - ^
01:20:11 - ^
02:01:81 - ^

[demoness]
00:22:03 - reinsert break
00:49:66 (1,2,3) - i don't really like this jump
01:08:19 (1,2,3,4) - ^

[shinde's etna]
no problems.

starred

Prinny
00:53:30 (1) - is this note needed?

Demon
looks good

Demoness
evil jumps x_x

Shinde's Etna
looks good

have a star

Seems good
...
[I don't have anything to say...]

Anyway...
Star this

Sounds like you need +2 to all offsets imo???

[Shinde's Etna] more like [Etna's Vassal, Shinde]
01:04:56 (2,3,4), 01:09:19 (1), 01:11:83 (1), 01:57:51 (2,3,4) - t'is not snapped.
00:40:73 (4) - stuff like this bugs me because you basically have to memorize the number of reverses to hit before moving on (there is no room to see when it completes). I don't know if this is something that you must change to be deemed rankworthy (I don't think it's crucial to change). I just, eh, personally don't like it, that's all.

Also imo [Demon] -> [Demon Lord] and [Demoness] -> [Beauty Queen Ultimate Overlord] (or just Beauty Queen if you're tight for space) just to feed Etna's canon ego/job class

shoots a star

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bubbled

Timing: there's a point missing:
Offset: 36094, BPM: 186

[Etna's Vassal, Shinde]
02:00:98 (1) - sounds odd the way it finishes on the half beat. Sounds better on the beat ahead at 2:02:144 imo
Sorry for HARSH CRITICISM but I find this difficulty on the whole unplayable, due to the half-beat sliders that go back and forth without any visible pattern; you essentially have to either be good at hold-jumps or memorize the map to play it.
Shit I forgot I already pointed that out earlier; nm

[BEAUTY QUEEN OOOOOOOVERLORD]
01:08:86 (1) - imo this needs a whistle

Skin stuff:
I've edited the comboburst audio to be a tad louder (and sans-hiss) as well as cropped the images to be more texture-efficient and better positioned on the screen. http://up.ppy.sh/files/disgaea-combos.rar here you go
playfield.png is not used; toss it
menu-back.png is also not supposed to be used (it's being used because of a bug in the current test build, ironically enough)
You don't really need any osu! default skin elements either (such as play-warningarrow) - just force osu! default as the skin and let the custom Disgaea elements take over
I find it tough to see the cursor when spinning/recovering from a spin. You might need to lighten or otherwise change the spinner's colours (remember, prinnies come in a rainbow of five to six colours)
The reverse arrow blends with the hitcircle way too much. Given the heart at the end, I'm assuming it's a "Flonne arrow", so imo it should probably be white with a gold-glowing effect. Possibly with some wings right before the heart, but I'm not picky. I think it should be white as a base colour, though.
Lastly, count1 looks kind of ugly. Take a look at Etna's skull earring, and her collar ring, for example. The shadow used for blending has very sharp, unattractive edges (which make the earring look like it has a poorly rendered spike through it) and there's a black line on the collar, as I mentioned. Looks pretty good for fanart, but no way would Etna fill out a bra larger than a muffin wrapper!!!

EDIT: oops I forgot, also make sure to crop the transparency out of other images such as spinner-spin, which contains excessive whitespace.

awp wrote:

Big menacing paragraph.

Yes, masta. D: I tried. ztrot said he got everything else. ztrot, go ahead and use whichever one you like best.


I hate wings. I'll take another look at everything once it's re-uploaded.

Edit: ztrot I attached a cursortrail and count1 in the spoiler box.

As for cropping the spinnerspin and clear, I used the blank space to position the images, because I didn't like where they were without the blankspace padding. If it's necessary I can crop them, that just changes where they appear, and I don't think the beatmap filesize is too bad atm. (6.1mb I believe) As for the count1, I don't think it looks that bad, and the shading/color goes with the prinnies I used. I'd be hard pressed to find a better image, and even if I did it'd take me an hour+ to figure something out. I did however blur the outline in an attempt to make it look better, and touched her earring and necklace up a little.

On a sidenote, I do agree with you about the slider repeat issue, but I'm really not sure what to do about it besides remapping a decent bit of the map, whereas new issues would probably surface. I think a lot of hard/insane difficulty maps have similar cases though where you kind of have to 'learn' the beatmap to a degree, so while it's annoying, I hope it's alright. If you really don't like the difficulty though, ztrot you can throw it out no problem.

I think that's everything then..

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awp wrote:

SPOILER

Naw, not necessary to pitch it (afaik), just a personal taste.

Basically my only arguments are aesthetic at this point:

take a look at hit300.png - it's beautiful. Now take a look at hit300g.png - the edges there are really rough. ??? I think it'd be nicer to see them smoothened out. Continue? and Back to Menu? seem to suffer the same fate.

(Also, I think you have 300g and 300k mixed up; 300g is the "Perfect" 300 combo, and I figure that's where the solid-skull finisher would go.)

Score stars (300, 100, 50, X, etc) can also be cropped down to a smaller size to increase efficiency (though I don't consider it critical.) The SPIN! is fine, and the count1.png looks alright now. The earring part still bugs me a tiny bit, but if it's too much trouble I wouldn't worry.

By the way, sorry for not mentioning this earlier x_x so bug me when it's done, again, and I'll look at it.

Actually I agree, the edges are pretty messed up for the hitbursts' skull. The problem is I have to recreate them all now, cause I didn't save a .png at the time for 90% of the files when I did this skin, since I had like 50~ files open in PS then. x_x; So at the time when I made this I just kinda noted some slopiness and went 'Ehhhh...' I'll try to fix em up so ztrot doesn't eat me. D; Lol.

Edit:
Skin touchups attached. I've cropped a lot of things so the filesize should go down a good bit. ztrot, can you remove the following files? star, star2, section-pass, section-fail, hitcircleselect, ranking-accuracy
After that drop these files into the folder, force default skin on each difficulty, then full resubmit. I think everything will be taken care of then?

Well, I'm done running this map into the ground, so I'll bubble it.

I fixed a few things that bugged me and my friend pointed out :< bubble pop

[Prinny]
01:59:16 (3,4) - Wut?

Fix it.

tieff wrote:

[Prinny]
01:59:16 (3,4) - Wut?

Fix it.

There's nothing wrong with that; the spacing difference is not great enough to consider the timing ambiguous. If that were to be considered unacceptable there'd be an extreme limitation on note placement, which is why I'm nipping this in the bud now.

On another note, I caught something I missed last time: Force default skin (song setup > Storyboarding > Skinning) as Preferred skin. In any skin with >3 combo-burst audio samples, combo-bursts start mixing/matching. I had Flonne pop up with Etna's voice. This is probably also an osu! bug, but for now, just force skin Default on all difficulties please <3

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Witty Disgaea reference goes here, dood!

btw <3

I just curious, how is Tsunami Bomb and Disgeae or w/e it's called related? ._.

Tis the theme song of Disgaea Hour of Darkness. Unless I'm mistaken. Dx I've only played Disgaea 3.

In disgaea 1, it was (if i'm not mistaken) only played in the completely optional boss fight against Prier (is that right? Been so long since i played either Disgaea or La Pucelle)

Ah, thanks for the clarification.

it could have been the song that plays when Maderas, I know that a very good song played there. Yet in the PSP ver. it was removed due to copyright (Not this one but the one that plays with Maderas), so it's been a while.

Any way GREAT map, it's not hard but challenging. And thats a lot harder to do then it sounds (well at least I think it is). And I would give a star, but we all know why I cant XD.