[Proposal - Metadata] Remove the "Cut Ver." rule for repetitive songs. · forum

wrn81056398

Joined May 2019

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wrn81056398 2021-06-15T21:04:55+00:00

Remove the "Cut Ver." rule for repetitive songs.

Hello, So I think that that the "Cut Ver." rule is pretty annoying when it comes to repetitive songs, for example: DnB songs that repeat like 4 times the same thing. If it's a cut ver it makes the mapper look lazy when the thing is just that it would end boring to map the full ver if you want an E/N/H/I(X) set and boring to play if the set manages to get finished by copy pasting the parts.

So I think the "Cut Ver." rule should be removed.... at least for this
Also, it's my first ranking criteria change request ~~and it might be stupid lol~~

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Yuuki Noa

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Yuuki Noa 2021-06-15T21:12:04+00:00

most full size songs have repetitive elements? doesn't change the fact that the mapper cut the song to an unofficial length

wrn81056398

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wrn81056398 2021-06-15T21:22:24+00:00

Snowy Wind wrote:
most full size songs have repetitive elements? doesn't change the fact that the mapper cut the song to an unofficial length

I'm talking about songs that are literally the same for the entire song

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caps

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caps 2021-06-16T08:46:15+00:00

fwiw, songs that loop can have just one full loop and not have cut ver. added to title. that's about as far as it goes though, since most full songs will have at least some variation in between the repetitiveness.

making exceptions for specific songs would inevitably create loopholes, since defining which songs are "repetitive enough" to not include the cut ver. marker (aside from literal 1-to-1 loops) would be hard without some people trying to push how far it goes. it's too much effort for what it's worth.

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Chromate

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Joined October 2019

Chromate 2021-06-21T01:52:05+00:00

my opinion is that Cut Ver. is Cut Ver. It's just a few people (inside and outside the BN team) that need to change their ideas on Cut Ver. maps.

-Keitaro

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-Keitaro 2021-06-21T12:00:42+00:00

Ranking Criteria wrote:
...and songs that are a full loop of a looping track will not be considered cut.

?
or is this not what you meant

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Shii

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Shii 2021-06-21T12:16:31+00:00

I don't think a stereotype/stigma is remotely a valid reason to change Ranking Criteria.

The (Cut Ver.) marker exists to indicate to a person that a map is using an mp3 that is artificially shortened (in a way that doesn't match official media). Its purpose is far more important than the concern that a handful of the people are going to make an assumption because of its presence.

edit: ditto Keitaro :3c

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gothicwvlff

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gothicwvlff 2021-06-23T01:03:27+00:00

i agree but that example is kinda................eh.....................

sincerely sorry for the brain damage caused by what you just read, i was likely 11-13 when i said it.

Dialect

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Dialect 2021-06-23T01:04:33+00:00

i think it has good intentions but at the same time, it would really be inaccurate metadata wise, with the only purpose of getting bns easier