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120Hz Refresh Rate - Benefits and Acquisition

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Ephemeral
i'd be interested in gathering statistics of players who go from 60hz to 120hz to perform a proper factorial analysis on whether this has any influence or not, because i really don't think it does.
Kert
I have a 144hz monitor and it is a lot smoother than 60hz (plus it has lower response time)
You just see more frames in comparison with 60hz. When you move your cursor VERY fast you will actually SEE all the path where it goes. The monitor isn't limiting your ability to read stuff anymore. On 60hz you'll have to kinda predict where you moved the cursor
I can't even say I regret upgrading from my lovely 100hz CRT anymore (it died), because it offers similar smoothness
Winshley
I don't think you can get better input rate with this tool.

Well yes, it might be helpful to read fast AR for some people, but not for me because I would rather memorize where the notes will come instead, and using purely my ears with my headphones to time the notes. :P

Additionally, I'm already too used to seeing screen tearing stuff. Haha. xD
Metro
I switched from LCD with 5ms response time to CRT and I now play at 85hz and the difference is huge. Specially when playing HR only. I can see everything better and it helps with my reaction.
Purple
120Hz really shouldnt offer any significant advantage, especially since you need to play hidden to gain good ranks on most situations. The only benefit I could see is the smoother cursor movement for maps such as no,39 and Niko Made of Fire... but thats about it.

I have a 120Hz and I didnt feel much difference from switching from a 60Hz monitor. If you want smoother approach circle movement I recommend using a thicker approach circles for your skin.
Thatgooey
I could see it helping a little bit, but not a great deal. It might help for when I play ar 10-11, but other than that not too much. Even AR10 wouldn't offer much benefit for osu! standard. I could see 120hz helping the most in taiko. To me, the only reason I don't try to play the game is because of how choppy it looks. It hurts my brain being able to see the frames chop horizontally across my stream. I think playing 120hz on taiko would be MUCH better than 60hz. Worlds better. I would actually try it if I had 120hz monitor. But for standard? I don't know that it would give any advantage at all. It would make the game look smoother, of course, but as far as registering, I don't think so.
Hernan

Metro wrote:

I switched from LCD with 5ms response time to CRT and I now play at 85hz and the difference is huge. Specially when playing HR only. I can see everything better and it helps with my reaction.
Same here, it DOES make a difference.
Lach
i have a 120hz monitor and i still suck

edit: that being said i tried 60hz the other day and i felt like killing myself
Espionage724
Another thing to consider, if your monitor has built-in overdrive, or if you're using it from your GPU control panel, increasing the refresh rate past specifications can actually increase response time, and cause colors to react strangely. More info: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/ov ... t_75hz.htm
Ohrami
Anyone know a 24" 1920x1200 monitor with 5 ms or less of input delay that can be overclocked to 120Hz using this program? Maybe I'm using it wrong, but my monitor can't be overclocked using this program at all.
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Nessuka

Kyou-kun wrote:

Anyone know a 24" 1920x1200 monitor with 5 ms or less of input delay that can be overclocked to 120Hz using this program? Maybe I'm using it wrong, but my monitor can't be overclocked using this program at all.
Dell ultrasharp u2412m?
Ohrami

Ijah wrote:

Dell ultrasharp u2412m?
That monitor has 8 ms of delay, roughly one frame at 120Hz. I'd prefer something lower.
Valentiino
It depends are you using single or dual link dvi. Single link dvi obviously can't handle 120hz @ 1920x1200, you need dual link dvi for that
Ohrami
I am using dual link DVI
Valentiino
Then your panel just might not be capable of being overclocked. Could you post some info about your GPU & monitor?
Ohrami
I'm using two 6970s in CrossFire and I'm pretty sure I'm using this monitor: http://www.amazon.com/24in-TFT-LCD-1920 ... B000UD0GWY
Espionage724
Some monitors can't be overclocked too far either. Mine for example only got 18Hz additional before becoming unstable (saying unsupported). If you can manage to go from 60Hz to 120Hz, you're extremely lucky.
Ohrami
Bitch I can't even go up 1 Hz without it breaking
Zakdawg
I still havn't seen a monitor with a refresh rate of 120Hz. The highest out there I believe is 100.

The 120Hz on monitors is clever marketing for 3D monitors, because they can run two times 60, which equals 120.
Ohrami
Highest LCD I've seen is 144Hz

Highest CRT I've seen is I don't even know a lot
Rokk
Using a Samsung SyncMaster XL2370. Went into the monitor properties and tried setting the Refresh Rate to 120, but the screen just went black and said "Not optimum mode". Does this mean my monitor simply can't do 120 hz?
Ohrami
Yep
Rokk
Damn

It does this at 61 hz too

I still wonder if this is an arbitrary restriction, or if the monitor is simply incapable.
Jordan
Can't go past 60hz ._.
Marcin
65 Hz working fine
However 70 Hz makes my screen go crazy
Let's try above 65 ..
66 Fine...
67 Is breaking
Yeah, So my maximum is 66
Iiyama ProLite E2473HDS

Feedback:
Seeing A LITTLE difference, on taiko, while telling an auto to play big black, dons /kats eyes, on 60 Hz, are a little stuttering, however, on 66 Hz this effect is invisible.
Rokk
Never mind, it was an arbitrary restriction. I disabled "Safety lock" in my monitor's options and now I can go all the way to 120 Hz. Nice!
Noobita

Teraku wrote:

Never mind, it was an arbitrary restriction. I disabled "Safety lock" in my monitor's options and now I can go all the way to 120 Hz. Nice!
I have samsung syncmaster S24B300, can you tell me where you disabled this safety lock? hopefully i can do it as well because it's not letting me stay at 120hz
Tear
I've got an LG 24EA53VQ and while not quite 120Hz, I managed to get it up to 75Hz (dual-link DVI cable). Anything more makes it throw "DVI-D out of range". Still an improvement, thanks a lot ^_^
NAGISACHAn_old
You can use the same trick to display a higher then native resolution.
From 1920x1080 to 3840x2160 ex.
Pizzicato
i can only go up from 60Hz to 75. i'm happy enough with this :D

got a question tho
are there any penalties if i raise it from my default refresh rate? i'm new to this
TakuMii

Pizzicato wrote:

i can only go up from 60Hz to 75. i'm happy enough with this :D

got a question tho
are there any penalties if i raise it from my default refresh rate? i'm new to this
It might lower your monitor's lifespan, but that really depends on what monitor you have.
(And some monitors don't truly display higher refresh rates, click here and read Use #2)
Pizzicato
:D
TakuMii

Pizzicato wrote:

:D
I think you're supposed to be looking at the flashing lights. They should be flashing left-to-right, one after another. If the flashing pattern isn't constant or doesn't look correct, it's not truly running at the refresh rate you set (also, if you can monitor your framerate to make sure it's the same as your refresh rate, you'll ensure more accurate results).
Pizzicato
yeah i compared the flashing lights of 60hz and 75

skipping is constant at 60hz and at 75 the skipping is reduced

thanks~
Kyou-chan
picked up a $5 CRT
overclocked it to 134hz, CRTs are awesome because they have no motion blur and 0ms lag

edit: this is very useful if you have a capable monitor
http://www.blurbusters.com/zero-motion-blur/lightboost/
Rokk

Noobita wrote:

Teraku wrote:

Never mind, it was an arbitrary restriction. I disabled "Safety lock" in my monitor's options and now I can go all the way to 120 Hz. Nice!
I have samsung syncmaster S24B300, can you tell me where you disabled this safety lock? hopefully i can do it as well because it's not letting me stay at 120hz
I don't know as I have a Samsung Syncmaster XL2370. I can access advanced settings like Safety Lock by holding the Menu button down for 5 seconds.
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nrl
Time. Stamps.
otoed1
Wondering how well this works, I don't know my monitor model, but its refresh rate is 75, about how far would I be able to push it up?
thelewa
you need to use a dual link dvi cable or hdmi to even think about pushing your refresh rate to 120hz
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