Itachi_Uchiha wrote:

Hi M4M so far xD

[Alone]
Well...
since my modding experiences aren´t very high, I nearly found nothing bad in this diff xD
except...
03:37:852 (1) - it looks a bit ugly... may make it better?it is good for me not going to change it
And you used a lot Kiai time - reduce it a bit i don't think so o.o i didn't overuse it D:

[Memories]
00:19:540 (2,3) - the alingment seems a bit wrong - check it^^ yappa fixed
well... thats again all sorry D:

[Together]
I find nothing -.-

Sorry for this literally "bad" mod but i´m really no experienced modder... I hope it comes with the time
ty for trying \:D/

vipto wrote:

T-T-T-TAM

Offset +10 no changes about ofset atm :3

[Together]

Ar +1? i think ar 7 fits much better here since is a relaxing map

00:16:628 (5) - x:326 Y:126 better fixed
00:16:823 (6) - x:355 y:194 fixed a bit
00:37:083 (3) - Rotate by 10° ok
00:54:615 (6,7) - Blanket these two fixed
00:58:901 (3) - Rotate by 15° to match the curve ok
01:04:745 (1) - Better blanket fixed a bit
01:39:420 (1) - Move endpoint down a bit to match the curve better yap o3o
02:13:511 (2) - Prevent the overlap with 02:12:927 (6) - ok fixed
03:07:472 (3) - Touches 1's head. fix that fixed
03:08:251 (5) - ^-^
03:18:771 (7,8) - Why did you decrease the spacing here? Fix? wah forgot here fixed
03:36:693 (5) - Reverse uh?
03:39:225 (6) - Use this ok o3o

0,188,218436,1,0,0:0:0:0:
8,276,218631,1,8,0:0:0:0:
52,356,218826,1,0,0:0:0:0:
140,360,219021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
216,312,219215,1,0,0:0:0:0:


[Alone]

OD -1 no changes here sincee i wanna keep balance with HP

Couldn find anything except some very objective thing that are not worth mentioning
Great Easy
ty

[Memories]

01:09:021 (2,3) - Blanket these? i didn't want a blanket here o3o

Same as with [Alone] and about OD is the same
Sorr<y, i am not really agreat help with Easier diffs :C
no prob about this i prefer to have something about the harder diffs

xxheroxx wrote:

General

• • 02:02:008 (1) - Forse sarebbe meglio aggiungere questo spinner anche negli altri kiai in modo da legarli fra loro e creare delle consistenze.
  • 02:42:527 (break) - Non vedo il motivo di ritardare il break, fallo partire a 02:41:748. l'ho fatto partire li per il flash che c'è secondo me non è tanto male

Alone

• • 00:54:605 (3) - Modifica l'angolazione di questo slider rendendola uguale a quella del precedente. ok
  
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  • 03:32:787 (2,3,4) - Prova questa pattern, in questo modo eviti l'overlap del primo cerchio con 03:31:228 (4): ho semplicemente fatto lo stack a questo punto
  
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Memories

• • 00:43:306 (1,2,3,4) - Prova a centrare questa pattern: spero di averla migliorata
  
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  • 02:01:228 (1) - Fai iniziare questo spinner a 02:02:008 come hai fatto nelle altre diff. ok
  • 02:27:332 (1) - Fai iniziare questo spinner a 02:26:163 come hai fatto nella Alone. ok
  • 03:05:125 (3) - Capovolgi questo slider verticalmente. (stessa cosa per quello successivo) no perchè 03:03:566 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - se noti formano una pattern a forma di cuore C:
  
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Together

• • 00:33:176 (7) - Muovi questo cerchio sotto l'inizio del (5). (x:452 y:108) sure
  • 00:33:566 (1) - Fai iniziare questo spinner 1/1 dopo come nelle altre diff. qui ci starebbe male perchè pur riempiendo la parte vuota che resta non mi piace come suona qui quindi lo lascio come è
  • 01:11:358 (1) - Fai finire questo spinner a 01:14:086 come hai fatto con le altre due diff, e sposta anche il kiai ovviamente. (fossi in te comunque lo farei finire a 01:14:475 in modo da seguire meglio la musica, scegli te) modificato in tutte le diff e fatto finire a 01:14:086
  • 01:48:761 (1) - Aggiungi uno spinner come nelle altre due diff e come hai fatto a 00:46:423 (1). preferisco di avere un po' di differenza,qui rimane senza spinner :3
  • 02:00:449 (7) - Stessa cosa di 00:33:176. preferisco mantenerlo com'è qui
  • 02:13:306 (1) - Muovi questo cerchio sotto 02:12:527 (5) come hai fatto nel kiai precedente. ok
  • 02:13:696 (3) - Aggiungi uno spinner come nelle altre due diff e come hai fatto a 01:11:358 (1). qui mi piace la pattern che ho fatto quindi preferisco mantenerla e noon aggiungere lo spinner o3o
  • 02:26:163 (1) - Aggiungi uno spinner come nelle altre due diff. stessa cosa qui^
  • 02:38:631 (1) - ^-^
  • 03:16:034 (1,2) - Perchè questo spacing ridotto? Prova a ruotare (1) verso l'alto e prova a rendere lo spacing costante.fixed
  • 03:18:371 (6,7) - Stessa cosa qui, rendi lo spacing costante.-^
  • 03:19:150 (1,2) - ^ non solo è brutto da vedere ma non si abbina nemmeno con la canzone.
  • 03:22:267 (1,2) - ^
  • 03:25:384 (1,2) - ^ stessa cosa per tutti gli altri spacing simili, creare dello spacing ridotto solo per tenere una determinata simmetria è per la maggior parte delle volte sbagliato, questo tipo di spacing con un'alta velocità degli slider risulta in una pattern sgradevole da vedere/giocare. fixato lo spacing ma riguardo le pattern non credo che siano cosi tanto brutte,volevo che l'ultima parte della mappa fosse anche diciamo la piu' difficile dato che il ritmo cambia leggermente qui un po' quindi non vorrei fare cambiamenti riguardo a quelle pattern :3

Forse ho saltato qualcos'altro da suggerire ma non importa, al limite lo scriverò dopo. Ad ogni modo, se ho sbagliato qualcosa riguardo ai suggerimenti riguardo agli spinner in linea di massima ciò che volevo farti capire è che se c'è uno spinner in una difficoltà sarebbe meglio che ci fosse anche nelle altre e che iniziasse/finisse negli stessi punti in modo da legare le diff fra di loro.

riguardo ai spinner si è giusto che siano consistenti in tutte le diff ma credo che non sempre bisogna mantenere la consistenza,grazie per la mod dinuovo >.<

-kevincela- wrote:

[Alone]

1. 00:15:254 (1,2,3) - This movement here seemed too much forced to me... :\ I was expecting an oval flow going downside because of 00:15:254 (1) - 's direction, though I had the exact opposite, and it felt a bit unpleasing to play for me... What about rearranging the pattern using an arc pattern going downwards? It would play quite smoother than the actual pattern, imho. Here's what I made, see if you like it! i like it i'll use it :3
   
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   256,228,17202,1,0,1:0:0:0:
   172,268,17592,2,0,P|116:228|106:161,1,140,8|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   180,108,18761,54,0,P|210:112|242:139,1,70,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   256,228,19540,1,2,0:0:0:0:
   288,312,19930,2,0,P|221:315|172:268,1,140,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   100,212,21099,1,2,0:0:0:0:
   36,276,21488,6,0,P|12:208|32:140,1,140,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   60,60,22657,1,2,0:0:0:0:

2. 01:30:450 (1) - Well, considering the colorhax you are using right there, the color of this combo does not really go well, considering it has the same color of the previous combo... You should totally change the color to the tourquoise one, to follow the azure--->tourquoise scheme... Remember to reset all the colors if you do this! fixed,just neded to change the color of the prev combo to fix all
3. 01:44:086 (2,3,1) - It could be just me, though this pattern doesen't really flow that smooth, the symmetry you used seemed quite "forced" to me, as it doesen't really follow that well 01:44:086 (2,3) - 's flow... What about instead making this pattern a symmetric one, using some curved sliders plus a wave slider for 01:47:982 (3) - ? It would definitely flow really smooth, and I personally like it a lot! See if you like it! uh yap.i'll use it à.à i like it
   
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   136,224,104086,2,0,P|152:308|200:344,1,140,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   256,276,105254,1,2,0:0:0:0:
   320,340,105644,6,0,P|360:308|376:224,2,140,4|8|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   256,276,107592,1,0,1:0:0:0:
   192,340,107982,2,0,B|156:356|124:340|124:340|92:324|56:340,1,140,8|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

4. 02:10:969 (1,2,3) - Another quite minor thing: instead of having 02:12:138 (2) - with the same curve of 02:10:969 (1) - , I would instead revert its curve, making a blanket with 02:13:306 (3) - and placing it above 02:10:969 (1) - : I think this goes quite smooth, considering the oval flow created by 02:10:969 (1) - ! Here's again what I have done: see if you like it! it looks much better :O
   
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   64,212,130969,54,0,P|28:236|12:264,2,70,0|8|2,1:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   156,220,132138,2,0,P|220:220|272:164,1,140,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   188,132,133306,1,2,0:0:0:0:

5. 02:51:099 (1,2,3) - What about restructuring the pattern using an arc pattern, instead of using the actual pattern there? While the current pattern seemed not to follow that well the oval flow created with 02:51:099 (1,2) - , I think that using instead a simple arc pattern without any blankets would play quite well, other than looking neat! Here's what I have done here: uh it looks better u.u
   
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   0,224,171099,22,0,P|0:147|41:103,1,140,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   129,86,172267,1,2,0:0:0:0:
   192,152,172657,2,0,B|212:204|212:204|216:296,1,140,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   256,372,173826,1,2,0:0:0:0:
   296,288,174216,54,0,B|300:204|300:204|320:152,1,140,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   383,86,175384,5,2,0:0:0:0:
   470,103,175773,2,0,P|512:147|512:224,1,140,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   428,260,176943,1,2,0:0:0:0:
   356,316,177332,6,0,P|277:308|237:257,1,140,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   208,184,178501,1,2,0:0:0:0:

[Memories]

1. 00:51:488 (3) - Considering how this slider follows the weak beats there, I would personally rearrange the rhythm there to follow instead a bit more the vocals: it would fit really well, and it could be really fun to play as well! A possible pattern to use there could be a 1/2 note + 3/2 slider! Here's what I've done here, see if you like it! it's a nice idea but considering that this part is the intro of kiai,i should change all the parts wich beginns with '' come back to me'' and i don't wanna create inconstency with all other parts so i'll not change it :3
   
   
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   376,56,51488,1,2,0:0:0:0:
   332,72,51683,2,0,P|312:116|360:208,1,150,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   440,208,52657,6,0,P|424:264|300:280,1,200,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   300,188,53826,2,0,P|328:144|380:124,1,100,2|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   456,92,54605,2,0,P|432:52|368:32,1,100,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   296,36,55384,1,2,0:0:0:0:
   256,116,55774,54,0,L|256:224,2,100,4|0|8,0:0|1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   216,36,56943,1,2,0:0:0:0:
   127,31,57332,2,0,P|80:52|56:92,1,100,4|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
   141,124,58111,2,0,P|184:144|212:188,1,100,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

2. 01:05:125 (1) - This is just a personal preference, feel free to ignore the whole point if you don't agree with it: what about moving this note at x:256 y:240, instead of the actual position? Seeing how these sliders are placed here, I would see quite better this note here, as it clearly follows the sliders' oval flow going downwards! it flows better,changed here
3. 02:25:774 (5) - Why this 1/2 slider? I can't hear really anything at 02:25:969 - to emphatize, apart from that 1/2 little cymbal, which still sounds strange considering that in the wole pattern you have been following just the vocals. I would make them instead just a simple circle, it works quite well to emphatize the vocal chord there. ok
4. 02:52:267 (2) - Hmm... I have a little idea there: instead of using a linear slider, why don't you curve this upwards and rearrange the whole pattern to make it an arc following the slider right ahead? It's a really little thing I really like how this goes, as it totally follows 02:51:099 (1) - 's oval flow and therefore flows really smoothly, other than looking pretty neat as well! Here's what I've done, see if you like it! about this slider i'm not going to do changes because the pattern 02:51:099 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - it's like a heart<.<''
   
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   196,108,172267,2,0,P|244:112|296:84,1,100,2|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   356,28,173047,1,0,1:0:0:0:
   440,56,173436,1,8,0:0:0:0:
   468,144,173826,2,0,P|472:188|448:244,1,100,2|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   384,296,174605,54,0,P|304:320|296:344,1,100,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

5. 03:07:852 (3) - I really don't like how this slider actually plays, considering it just follows the weaks beats there and considering it skips some pretty important vocal pitch changes... What do you think about instead rearranging the whole slider splitting it up with a 1/2 repeated slider and a 1/1 circle after it? Rhythmically-wise it would definitely make more sense, other than being played quite well! Here's what I have done here, see if you like it!
   
   
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   464,120,187852,2,0,P|473:94|476:56,2,50,0|0|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   380,148,188631,1,0,1:0:0:0:
   296,184,189021,2,0,P|298:208|306:235,2,50,8|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   240,112,189800,54,0,P|204:76|148:68,1,100,4|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
   68,64,190579,2,0,L|32:20,2,50,8|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   64,152,191358,2,0,P|68:224|176:276,1,200,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

   
   for this one i did something like: because 03:03:566 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - give a heart pattern
   
   
6. 03:26:748 (1) - That's a quite little thing, however I would see this spinner quite better moved 1/2 further, to make it start at the vocals. The actual position doesen't again really make sense considering the pattern you are using here, and I would definitely see better this following the vocals instead of continuing 03:26:163 (3) - right ahead. (Remember to shorten by 1/2 as well if you apply!)ok

[Together]

1. 00:12:917 (3,1) - I can't really understand why you lowered the spacing here... I can't really hear any musical element that asks for this, and it actually breaks the flow you started with 00:12:137 (1,2,3) -... :\ I would rather suggest to space them away, moving 00:12:137 (1,2,3) - at x:100 y:64, it should make much more sense moved in that position. yap true,it was something that i forget from spacing change since i changed all the spacing one time from 0.7 -> 1.0 btw fixed here
2. 00:24:410 (x)- What about adding a note here? It's a quite little and personal thing, though it would follow the vocals being played right there pretty good, and it continues the pattern in a really good way! As said though that's optional, so feel free to ignore if you want! i like it how it sounds added
3. 00:40:969 (5,6,7,8) - You know what? I expected this whole pattern to go instead reversed, considering it'd go really well with the clockwise turn of 00:39:800 (3,4) - . The current pattern is ok, but it doesen't really go well as the pattern I've instead suggested here, imho... Using that clockwise turn would definitely make a really good pattern to play! Here's what I've done, see if you like it! OwO i really like it
   
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   192,64,40969,2,0,P|247:72|305:159,1,150,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   291,300,41748,1,4,0:0:0:0:
   226,334,41943,1,0,0:0:0:0:
   153,333,42138,2,0,P|91:314|49:231,1,150,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   116,108,42917,54,0,P|94:104|46:124,1,75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   96,184,43306,2,0,P|140:184|192:96,1,150,4|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
   56,40,44086,1,8,0:0:0:0:
   96,184,44475,1,2,0:0:0:0:
   240,136,44865,1,4,0:0:0:0:
   300,92,45060,1,0,0:0:0:0:
   356,44,45254,1,0,1:0:0:0:
   476,132,45644,1,8,0:0:0:0:
   388,252,46034,1,2,0:0:0:0:

4. 00:58:501 (1) - Oh well... Considering how the star pattern is done there, I think that this pattern would go on quite better if moved at the same position as 00:57:333 (4) - , continuing with an oval flow going upwards: in this way the whole pattern seems to go much smoother imho, and while I believe the current pattern's okay overall, I would really suggest you this pattern instead. Here's what I have done: see if you like it! oook
   
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   135,280,58501,5,2,0:0:0:0:
   212,284,58696,1,0,0:0:0:0:
   276,240,58891,2,0,P|314:181|298:100,1,150,4|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:

5. 01:32:787 (1,2,3,4,5) - Heh, I don't think that following the drums here instead of the vocals is a better solution. While it is rhythmically okay, it is quite confusing, as you have been following the vocals over the previous pattern... I'd instead rearrange the triplets so that they follow the vocals instead, as it goes really good and avoids this problem. Here's what you could do: i like it kevin nabbo ha sbagliato un hisound su 01:35:904 (3) - whistle pls :3 <3
   
   I fixed the pattern using this setting as well, see if you like it!
   
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   216,268,92787,53,2,0:0:0:0:
   280,232,92982,1,0,0:0:0:0:
   344,192,93177,1,4,0:0:0:0:
   212,124,93567,1,0,1:0:0:0:
   336,40,93956,2,0,P|408:28|484:64,1,150,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   492,132,94540,1,0,0:0:0:0:
   456,196,94735,5,4,0:0:0:0:
   328,276,95125,2,0,P|260:296|180:272,1,150,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   56,196,95904,1,4,0:0:0:0:

6. 01:48:371 (1) - This is just a subjective thing, so feel free to ignore: What about reversing the whole slider and moving it so that its end matches 01:47:592 (7) - 's one? Thanks to the anti-clockwise movement here, I think this is really smooth to play, and it would continue really well the rest of the patten as well, considering that they always go in opposite directions. Here I have fixed the rest of the pattern as well to make it follow 01:48:371 (1) - better. See if you like it! it's cute but personaly i prefer my pattern here
   
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   300,272,108371,54,0,P|244:298|204:374,1,150,2|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   348,384,109150,1,0,1:0:0:0:
   348,384,109345,1,0,0:0:0:0:
   348,384,109540,2,0,P|403:357|443:281,1,150,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   340,172,110319,2,0,P|285:199|245:275,1,150,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   276,348,110904,1,0,0:0:0:0:
   200,340,111099,1,8,0:0:0:0:
   52,352,111488,1,2,0:0:0:0:
   16,204,111878,38,0,P|80:140|156:132,1,150,4|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:

7. 03:12:332 (1) - Well, even if this New Combo does actually follow the vocals, I don't think it is needed here... The whole part to emphatize is really small, thus the combo should be started in another point, like 03:11:553 (6) - , or you could just delete it. It's your choice here! ook
8. 03:36:683 (6) - This is a quite little thing, though what about reverting this slider using CTRL+G? It felt quite smoother to play here, considering you have always used opposed sliders in this point, so I guess it won't really hurt, and on the other side I find instead quite cool to play, compared to the actual pattern! i agree o3o

About the BPM: while I concur with the fact that the song should have the BPM halfed, there's no need really to force that if the mapper really believes that the current BPM is better, as it's not really a reason to pop nor to unrank.
About the map, well done! It's simple yet quite clean, I like it! :p
Call me back when you have finished fixing!


Ty kevin o3o/