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Hatsune Miku - Dragoon

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Jarby
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Joined August 2008
Jarby
Remove the section fail and pass from the design tab. They will work automatically without it. Blue Rain and Red Storm aren't very different difficulty-wise. Make Blue Rain easier.

Red Storm:

Breaks are too short. Try and place them at different times.
00:36:07 (8) - Lengthen by 1/4.
00:53:84 (1) - Lengthen by 1/4.
00:59:40 (9) - New combo.
01:01:84() - Put a spinner here.
01:05:18() - Replace this spinner with notes.
01:13:18 (4) - Replace with slider. A lot of vocal points like this can be improved with sliders.
01:14:07 (1) - Remove.
01:16:73 (3) - More repeats.
01:17:62 (4,5) - Remove.
01:20:73 (1) - Remove.
01:21:40 (2) - Shorten by 1/2, and move 1/2 forward.
01:31:40 (4,5) - Remove.

And I've run out of time. I'll edit the rest in later.
Jinxy
2,777 posts
Joined February 2009
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Jinxy
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Larto
4,128 posts
Joined June 2008
Larto
Overall:
Remove the 1ms storyboard in the beginning o.O

Blue Rain:
00:40:51 (5) - That slider doesn't sound right. Maybe let it start on the next white tick and end on the red one after the white one?
01:34:07 (5) - 1/4 shorter
02:04:73 (5) - ^
02:25:73 (5,6) - 1/4 forward
02:37:07 (1) - That spinner totally doesn't fit in there and the long break after it is awkward, too.
The spot where you ended the map was weird. Really weird.

Red Storm:
01:13:18 (4) - 1/4 longer or shorter.
02:24:295 Add a note here.
02:34:07 (4,5) - 1/4 forward.
02:34:96 (6) - That slider sounds weird.
02:41:18 (16) - 1/4 shorter or longer.
02:44:18 (1,2,3) - 1/4 forward
02:52:62 (1) - That spinner totally doesn't fit and the break after it is REALLY WEIRD.
03:06:96 (4) - 1/4 shorter or longer

EDIT:
ALSO:
Red Storm:
03:18:51 (1) - Move that note 1/2 later?
03:19:18 (1) - You can remove that spinner. It just sounds and looks weird if it's there.
Jinxy
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Jinxy

Larto wrote:

Overall:
Remove the 1ms storyboard in the beginning o.O {what storyboard?}

Blue Rain:
00:40:51 (5) - That slider doesn't sound right. Maybe let it start on the next white tick and end on the red one after the white one? {Done}
01:34:07 (5) - 1/4 shorter {Done}
02:04:73 (5) - ^ {Done}
02:25:73 (5,6) - 1/4 forward {It didnt mush right so i changed it into a slider}
02:37:07 (1) - That spinner totally doesn't fit in there and the long break after it is awkward, too. {Done}
The spot where you ended the map was weird. Really weird. {Changed to 03:20:something}

Red Storm:
01:13:18 (4) - 1/4 longer or shorter. {Done}
02:24:295 Add a note here. {Done}
02:34:07 (4,5) - 1/4 forward. {Done}
02:34:96 (6) - That slider sounds weird. {Fixed}
02:41:18 (16) - 1/4 shorter or longer. {Done}
02:44:18 (1,2,3) - 1/4 forward {Done}
02:52:62 (1) - That spinner totally doesn't fit and the break after it is REALLY WEIRD. {Turned it into one big break}
03:06:96 (4) - 1/4 shorter or longer{Done}




Blue is edited.
Red is edited. (Includes the two new problems. Last Minute Kiai Time is funny)
minyeob
osu! Alumni
2,540 posts
Joined May 2008
minyeob
[Blue Rain]
57:627(1)-> This part should be a break time. (Suggestion)
2:05:739(1)-> Decrease 1/4 beat & 1/4 beat backward
2:11:520(2)-> 1/4 beat backward
2:25:406(4)-> Extend 1/4 beat

[Red storm]
2:52:078 (2,3)-> What's this? This part should be a break time.

Have a minyeob star.

EDIT: Kudo star~!
Last edited by minyeob , edited 2 times in total.
z-ro
9 posts
Joined December 2008
z-ro
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Sinistro
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Joined January 2008
Sinistro
Blue Rain
01:42:51 (1) - 1/2 shorter (Remember to replace the break, as it will be slightly longer now!)
02:05:62 (1) - This spinner seems to end at random...I guess a fitting end would be at 02:08:07 but that might make it a bit difficult. Maybe you can try replacing it with a long slider or something?
02:41:18 (3) - Not sure what the end of this is mapped to, either.
03:02:96 (1) - As above.

Red Storm
01:05:18 (1) - Again, this seems to end at random. Usually I'd have a more specific suggestion but I'm at a loss because this part doe
01:16:73 (3) - One more repeat.
03:03:85 (1) - I really don't want to intrude on the mapper's vision, but those spinners seem so random! I can't seem to pick an ending point for them that makes them sound good.
Jinxy
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Sinistro
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Sinistro
02:41:18 (3) - Not sure what the end of this is mapped to, either. {Its the "Waaaa" kind of thing, i couldnt use a spinner there}
Yeah, but the "Waaa" keeps going on well after the slider ends, so I still don't really get where you decide to end it.

Good job on the other fixes.

{Made into super long break :3}
7 seconds is super long break? Heh.
Sleep Powder
1,540 posts
Joined October 2008
Sleep Powder
Blue Rain
Change the slider tick to 2 it sounds better to me
01:13:18 (5) - Align with 2
02:27:85 (4) - Align with 2
02:31:85 (3) - Stack on the fading 4

Add More Hitsounds at the end

Red Storm
Change slider tick to 2 as well
00:42:73 (4) - Align with 3
01:03:62 (4) - Finish hitsound?
01:26:73 (4) - New Combo
Whats with the non-consistent spacing starting here? 01:56:73 (1) to here 01:58:51 (9)
Is that kind of thing allowed?
02:31:40 (2) - Is the spacing right on this?
02:34:96 (4) - I don't like this overlapping the other slider
02:38:73 (5) - Align with 4
03:17:18 (4) - I don't like how it overlaps the slider ether

I like the kiai timing at the end. :)
Jinxy
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Jinxy

animask wrote:

Blue Rain
Change the slider tick to 2 it sounds better to me {Fixed}
01:13:18 (5) - Align with 2 {Fixed}
02:27:85 (4) - Align with 2 {Fixed}
02:31:85 (3) - Stack on the fading 4 {Fixed}

Add More Hitsounds at the end {Fixed}

Red Storm
Change slider tick to 2 as well {Fixed}
00:42:73 (4) - Align with 3 {Fixed}
01:03:62 (4) - Finish hitsound? {JInxy Fix}
01:26:73 (4) - New Combo {Fixed}
Whats with the non-consistent spacing starting here? 01:56:73 (1) to here 01:58:51 (9)
Is that kind of thing allowed? {Its a pattern, and distance snap approved}
02:31:40 (2) - Is the spacing right on this? {Nope, Fixed}
02:34:96 (4) - I don't like this overlapping the other slider {Try it in play mode, you can see the next slider}
02:38:73 (5) - Align with 4 {Fixed}
03:17:18 (4) - I don't like how it overlaps the slider either {I flipped it}

I like the kiai timing at the end. :) {I know, right?}
Hara
108 posts
Joined August 2008
Hara
If I mention Grid-snap, it's grid level 3.

[Red Storm]
00:55:849 (5,1) - Move so these are directly under the last (3).
01:11:627 (1) - Hmm, this should be under (3) of the next combo if spacing is supposed to be consistent in both these combos.
01:25:849 (3) - Put under (1) which is grid snapped in the middle of the map.
01:30:294 (1,2) - This should be moved up and to the right a little so (2) corresponds with (3) as an opposite of (4).
01:42:516 (1,2,3) - Copy these three, move to 01:43:405 in the timeline and paste, flip the new (1,2,3) there horizontally from the edit menu, remove New Combo from the new (1) in the new (1,2,3) combo. Now change the position of (5) and (7) in the timeline.
01:44:294 (8) - This looks silly being almost at the middle grid line below (4) but just slightly not, use grid snap and nudge it to the left, it shouldn't move up or down but just snap to the middle line like (4) is.
02:04:294 (3,4,5) - Move slightly left and down to correspond with (1,2) maybe?
02:07:850 (5) - Move very slight to the right without any snap, around 3 "ticks".
02:22:517 (1,2) - Remember where you copied and flipped before? Do the same with (1,2) over to 02:23:184 as before.

[Blue Rain]
01:18:516 (3) - Move 2-3 "ticks" to the left.
03:14:073 (4) - Move 2 "ticks" to the right.

If there is any questions I will probably be on IRC most of the time.
Jinxy
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Jeffro
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Joined October 2008
Jeffro
Red Storm:
01:21:18 (1) - 1/2th later and 1/2th shorter.Couldn't find any other problems.

Starred.
Zekira
9,233 posts
Joined September 2008
Zekira
Offset: 28935?

I get pretty good results with that and even almost SSed Red Storm with that offset.
fufe
284 posts
Joined September 2008
fufe
Blue
00:42:93 (4,5) - sounds strange. i would mimic 00:44:49 (1). perhaps put hit before slider if you dont just make one big slider again.
redo breaks. most of them are off.
02:16:38 this area sounds off sync or i was lagging.. maybe a little of both... ill have to check later.

Red-
two words....
Resnap Notes ._.
Jinxy
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Jinxy

fufe wrote:

Blue
00:42:93 (4,5) - sounds strange. i would mimic 00:44:49 (1). perhaps put hit before slider if you dont just make one big slider again.
redo breaks. most of them are off.
02:16:38 this area sounds off sync or i was lagging.. maybe a little of both... ill have to check later.

Red-
two words....
Resnap Notes ._.
Green means done.
I sure screwed up with Red didnt I. :|
blissfulyoshi
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blissfulyoshi
The lack of grid snap is irritating. I am going to nazi this very hard, but remember these are just suggestions

Rain:
00:33:60 (2) - align with 1
00:35:82 (7) - restack on top of 3
00:42:49 (3) - align with 2
00:47:15 (3) - align with the end of 2
00:49:60 (1) - center between 1 and 2
00:52:93 (2) - align with 1
01:05:15 (3) - align with 2
01:09:15 (1) - align with 5
01:10:04 (3) - align with 2
01:15:15 (1) - align with 4
01:18:49 (3) - align with 2
01:29:82 (3) - align with the end of 2 (I think I will end the small alignment issues here. I will only state the ones that are larger in the later sections of this mod)
01:34:04 (5) - align with 4
03:15:15 (1) - align with 3

Storm:
00:32:04 (3) - center between 1 and 2
00:33:15 (4) - spacing
00:57:60 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - y is there a shrink in spacing
01:26:71 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - " "
01:39:82 (1,2,3,4) - " "
01:46:04 (3) - put on the line created by 1 and 2
01:47:15 (1,2,3,4) - y is there a shrink in spacing
01:56:71 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - " "
02:01:38 (1,2,3,4) - " "
02:05:15 (6) - align with 3
02:31:82 (3) - put on the line created by 1 and 2
02:32:93 (2) - center between 1 and 3
03:09:38 (5) - recenter between 6 and 7
03:17:16 (4) - align with the end of 3

There are quite a few things that I would like moved or restacked, but that is just me.

Overall nice map. Star.
Jinxy
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blissfulyoshi
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blissfulyoshi
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Derekku
COOL DUDE
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Derekku
*sees that over 9000 people have already modded this*

*lazy*

Star'd for Hatsune <3
Jinxy
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Jinxy

blissfulyoshi wrote:

Rain:
00:30:49 (4,5,6,7) - lower 1 notch(3)
00:32:49 (7) - right 1 notch (3)
00:33:60 (2,3,4) - lower 1 notch(3)
00:35:37 (6) - right 1 notch (3)
00:39:15 (2,3) - lower 1 notch(3)
00:42:49 (3,1) - right 1 notch (3)
00:46:26 (2) - lower 1 notch(3)
00:49:60 (1) - center between 1 and 2 of the combo before
00:50:04 (2) - lower 1 notch(3)
00:53:82 (4) - right 1 notch (3)
00:54:49 (1) - might want to align with 4
00:54:93 (2,3,6) - lower 1 notch(3)
01:09:60 (2,3,4) - lower 1 notch(3)
01:16:71 (4) - right 1 notch (3)
01:18:49 (3,4,5) - lower 1 notch(3)
01:23:82 (3) - extend this a half beat
01:29:82 (3,4) - lower 1 notch(3)
01:32:71 (3) - lower 1 notch(3)
01:58:49 (7,8) - " "
02:12:04 (3) - place on the 1,2,4 line
02:19:15 (3) - up 1 notch (3)
02:20:71 (2) - right 1 notch (3)
02:22:04 (5) - lower 1 notch(3)
02:26:27 (5) - right 1 notch (3)
02:27:15 (2,3,6,7) - lower 1 notch(3)
02:32:93 (2) - right 1 notch (3)
02:34:49 (1) - lower 1 notch(3)
02:43:60 (1) - the spacing here is wrong, but it does not have a easy fix
02:47:15 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - lower 1 notch(3)
02:52:04 (1,2,3,4) - lower 1 notch(3)
02:59:38 (3) - left 1 notch (3)
03:05:38 (1) - make a horizontal reflection of the next 1
03:09:82 (1,2,3) - right 1 notch (3)

Storm:
00:31:60 (2) - lower 1 notch(3)
00:34:49 (2) - spacing
00:36:93 (1) - " "
00:39:15 (5) - spacing, this causes 7 not to align with 4
00:41:15 (9,2) - spacing ??
00:52:93 (4) - right 1 notch (3)
00:55:37 (4,5,6,1) - lower 1 notch(3)
00:55:82 (5) - right 1 notch (3)
01:03:60 (4) - right 1 notch (3)
01:22:49 (3,4) - " "
01:30:93 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - lower 1 notch(3)
01:31:38 (4) - lower 1 more notch (3)
01:41:60 (1) - left 2 notches (3)
01:42:04 (2) - left 1 notch (3)
01:44:26 (8,1,2,3) - lower 1 notch(3)
01:59:60 (2) - lower 1 notch(3)
02:01:38 (1,2,3,4) - y is there a shrink in spacing here
02:03:15 (6) - spacing
02:05:15 (6) - right 1 notch (3)
02:07:38 (4,5,1) - " "
02:07:82 (5) - right another 1 notch (3)
02:11:15 (1) - left 1 notch (3)
02:24:71 (3) - lower 1 notch(3)
02:26:04 (4) - right 1 notch (3)
02:27:15 (2) - spacing
02:37:38 (1) - spacing
02:49:60 (3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - lower 1 notch(3)
02:59:38 (4) - I don't like how this slider is covered by 3
03:01:60 (1,1,2,3) - right 1 notch (3)
03:08:71 (3,4) - make this parallel to 1,2
03:13:15 (1) - left 1 notch (3)
03:15:82 (3,4) - right 1 notch (3)
Rolled
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Rolled
^holy shit.

+8ms to offset pls?

Hard:
02:30:49 (9) - Possibly an error, but I see no reason for this note to be spaced narrower than the rest.

The end. Fix = bubble.

Fix'd
tieff
Featured Artist
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tieff
Hatsune Miku is love.
Nice idea with color.

[Blue Rain]
02:26:27 (5) - Sorry for nazi... Align with end of this 02:25:38 (4) slider.
02:35:38 (2) - Another nazi... Down a bit.
02:35:83 (3) - ^
03:05:39 (1) - Don't like 1 note combo.

No other problem, great map.
Jinxy
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Jinxy

tieff wrote:

Hatsune Miku is love.
Nice idea with color.

[Blue Rain]
02:26:27 (5) - Sorry for nazi... Align with end of this 02:25:38 (4) slider.
02:35:38 (2) - Another nazi... Down a bit.
02:35:83 (3) - ^
03:05:39 (1) - Don't like 1 note combo.
No other problem, great map.
Cyclone
osu! Hall of Famer
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Cyclone
Notes were quite snapped correctly or something. (they moved slightly when i resnapped all notes)

Anyways after snapping i'd say this needs a +5 or +6 ms change (from the current 53)

EDIT: BPM 134.998

er... lemme double check...



EDIT2: Change to BPM to an even 135.000 and set the offset to roughly +6 or so (so about 59)


EDIT3: blah blah stuff. Bubbled.
Yuukari-Banteki
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Yuukari-Banteki
[Blue Rain]
01:16:72 (4) - hitsound these (the phrase repeats)
01:30:28 (4) - hitsound the end
i notice a lot of the time you are either in a cluster of hitsounds or in an area completely void of hitsounds. Please try to spread them about a bit more evenly.
01:38:05 (3,1,2) - hitsound these
01:59:17 (8) - new combo?
02:18:28 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - this is what i mean by cluster of hitsounds
02:33:39 (3,4) - hitsound these
03:05:39 (1) - finish


[Red Storm]
00:43:17 (6) - try a different hitsound
00:53:39 (5) - hitsound
00:57:83 (2,6,etc) - try a different hitsound
01:13:17 (4) - hitsound the end
01:25:83 (3) - finish
01:48:17 (1) - start 1/4 earlier
02:07:39 (4) - finish
02:27:83 (4,5) - finish 4 and the start of 5
02:34:94 (4) - end with a finish
02:38:28 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - break up the whistlespam with other hitsounds
03:15:83 (3) - can you clean this up a bit and move the start and end farther apart maybe? ^_^


the hitsounds of [Red Storm] make me certain that you can do a much better job on the ones in [Blue Rain] without much trouble. The map shows a lot of promise but I don't think its ready to be ranked yet. Popping for now, call me back when youve worked on it and I'll rebubble.
Jinxy
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Jinxy

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

Done
Not Uploaded yet.
Done.
Yuukari-Banteki
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Yuukari-Banteki
[Blue Rain]
oh beautiful, good job on this ^_^

[Red Storm]
sweet, bubble time ^_^
Echo
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I see nothing wrong with this.

I really like patterns like blue 01:12:50 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4), but red 01:56:72 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) is a bit boring imo. Do you want to change? Either way I don't see why this can't be ranked.
Jinxy
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mtmcl
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Echo
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I don't see why this can't be ranked.
Pasonia
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Pasonia
Finally ranked. I hope the initial help I've given you before was useful.
Jinxy
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Jinxy

Pasonia wrote:

Finally ranked. I hope the initial help I've given you before was useful.

Lets see...

Pasonia wrote:

Horribad beats, timing. You just resnapped it and did nothing else afterwards, amiright?

Please, please if you will... Just map according to the song's rhythm and everything. I can't tell you every single note's placement due to the sheer amount of errors in it, but my advice to you is to play other maps - at least, 200 other maps out there that is ranked and dated at most 5 months ago - to get an idea of what rankable standards are.

Personally, a map at least 4 stars is what constitutes a satisfactory Hard, and I most certainly would like to see one such map in your beatmap set without toggling difficulties and other such settings.

It's horrible enough, thank goodness your BPM is still fine or your map would be qualified for a nuke. Please work harder on this, and ask other mappers for opinions on how to map.

Kudostar only for the fact that this is a Miku tune.

Can't believe my map was that crappy. It really helped a lot.


Can I has a Heart? That Bubble in the thread looks out of place.
Zekira
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Zekira
Can I has a Heart? That Bubble in the thread looks out of place.
Lol
Andrea
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Heart fixed.
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