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6-digit 7* player illness

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Almost
Since the beginning of this game, there has been an endemic problem in the low ranks with people playing too much high difficulty maps and little (if any at all) lower difficulty maps. I'll call this the 6-digit 7* player illness. Symptoms of this problem includes: persistently low accuracy, irrational belief that the pp system is rigged against them, irrational belief that 4*/5* maps are "too easy" yet cannot FC them, consistency issues, severe case of Dunning-Kruger effect and much more.

For many, the 6-digit 7* player illness is not a problem as many just play this game for fun and playing these difficult maps that even top players struggle with is the epitome of this. However for many sufferers of 6-digit 7* player illness, the effects can be detrimental as it inhibits the sufferer's ability to get a good rank.

There is good news though. By simply playing easier maps, you can cure 6-digit 7* player illness! The main cause of 6-digit 7* player illness is playing maps that are far too difficult for you. This causes build-up of bad habits. By playing easier maps, one can learn to build good habits to offset the bad ones. This is due to easier maps giving the ability for one to actually process the information on the screen in a timely manner rather than rushing it on adrenaline which is typical of more difficult maps.
Zelzatter Zero
I thought I'm in Off-Topic when reading the whole post lul.

But yeah, considering there's already a severe case about this, it's only the matter of time to bring this up to the mass.
Lights
i sense the OT in you, Almost.
altbleak
I feel like it's almost essential playing the "low" star maps at least until you can get literally 0 performance points out of them. I personally almost completely skipped 2-3 star maps (I played literally like only 5-10 of them when I was supposed to) and I remember playing 4-5 stars with s*** accuracy and consistency thinking it was fine... It wasn't fine - I didn't know how to read at all. I was thinking this was some sort of fucking aim trainer instead of a rhytmgame.
Topic Starter
Almost
Come now guys, I'm just trying to spread awareness for 6-digit 7* player illness therefore it's definitely a G&R topic :)

rainnn wrote:

I feel like it's almost essential playing the "low" star maps at least until you can get literally 0 performance points out of them. I personally almost completely skipped 2-3 star maps (I played literally like only 5-10 of them when I was supposed to) and I remember playing 4-5 stars with s*** accuracy and consistency thinking it was fine... It wasn't fine - I didn't know how to read at all. I was thinking this was some sort of fucking aim trainer instead of a rhytmgame.
It's great to see someone who overcame the illness. Props to you!
MrSparklepants
This is so true man, I was once one of those guys, I think it's because we start with seeing these top players play 7*+ maps and we want to be like them so we just grind insane maps out of our skill range not learning the fundamentals of low star maps and playing in general (such as not being able to read AR below 9). I'm now 22K and I still even play 2* maps almost every day (don't get me wrong I still play 6* and the occasional 7*).
Frontierr
Why does this sounds so familiar.
qwt
HOW TO GET BETTER???AT STREAMING

HOLD UP I HAVE TO COOKEZI FUNNY 727 MOMENT

IVE BEEN PLAYING ALOT OF 29* STREAM MAPS WITH NF AN GETTING 12% ACC ON THEM WHY IS THAT IM RANK 760K AND HAVE 1 DAY OF PLAYTIME WHY AM I NOT DOING GOOD???AND COULD YOU GUYS SEND ME 29* 980 STREAM PRACTICE MAPS

WHY AM I NOT IMPROVING????

IT'S BEEN 5 DAYS SINCE MY 72PP KIBO REFRAIN LIGHT INSANE TOP PLAY AND I CAN'T GET ANY BETTER PLAYS I HAVE 2 DAYS OF PLAYTIME AND IM RANK 320K AND I CAN'T IMPROVE PLEASE SEND ME 82* TECH MAPS SO I COULD GET BETTER AT SHORT JUMP MAPS PLEASE

HOLD UP I GOT TO RRTYUI FUNNY MOMENT

GUYS IM DELETING ALL OF MY TV SIZE JUMP MAPS AND ONLY DOWNLOADING OLD MAPS AND TECH MAPS BECAUSE PP BAD COOKEZI GOOD PLEASE SEND ME SOME OLD MAPS AND TECH MAPS PLZZZZZ I NEEED TO ENJOY GAME PP BAD COOKEZI GOOD OK
Remilo
When I was 6 digit I think i was playing a crap ton of relax on 7 to 6 star maps.
Simon12

Reforms Expert wrote:

HOW TO GET BETTER???AT STREAMING

IVE BEEN PLAYING ALOT OF 29* STREAM MAPS WITH NF AN GETTING 12% ACC ON THEM WHY IS THAT IM RANK 760K AND HAVE 1 DAY OF PLAYTIME WHY AM I NOT DOING GOOD???AND COULD YOU GUYS SEND ME 29* 980 STREAM PRACTICE MAPS

WHY AM I NOT IMPROVING????
This is too accurate

Almost wrote:

irrational belief that 4*/5* maps are "too easy" yet cannot FC them
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

"HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO SNIPE WHITECAT BY PLAYING 3 STARS ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!"


[-Remilo-] wrote:

When I was 6 digit I think i was playing a crap ton of relax on 7 to 6 star maps.
I spent half of my time doing that as a 6 digit lol
-Chaeyoung
I get triggered by this too, but I was too afraid to voice out my opinions for fear of getting flamed. Thanks for putting this out. I will save this post next time to share to some new players thinking of trying this method of playing for 'improvement'.
Topic Starter
Almost
Thanks guys! I'm glad lots of people enjoyed reading it as much as I enjoyed writing it :)
Ryuto
I second this, it happens too damn often.
-Lychee
I’m kind of happy I didn’t go down this route tbh. I’m a 6 digit but I don’t even bother playing 6* until I start consistently fcing 5* star maps, and I’m currently playing longer 4* maps to improve consistency, nerve control, etc. :D
fuyumiria
My friends have this problem :NLT:

"I can definitely 99% fc this for 400pp. I just misread it that's all!"

>Acc 79% 20 misses

me : wat?
Molly Sandera
I can't relate, never had this problem, i even thought going for C passes was not worth it when some of my friends said otherwise. I'm doing passes a bit more often now but nothing close to this disease
Simon12

Rianolinon wrote:

My friends have this problem :NLT:

"I can definitely 99% fc this for 400pp. I just misread it that's all!"

>Acc 79% 20 misses

me : wat?
Tell your friends: "Keep retrying, you'll do It someday."
Topic Starter
Almost

Molly Sandera wrote:

I can't relate, never had this problem, i even thought going for C passes was not worth it when some of my friends said otherwise. I'm doing passes a bit more often now but nothing close to this disease
There's nothing wrong with playing stuff way above your level every now and then, it only becomes a problem when it becomes the only thing you play. Kind of like eating junk food.
Vector5g
can't relate
Relay
good thing im not one of "them"
Paci
Hello, there is my first time in this forum and i liked this topic for some reason.

I started to play osu recently and already received some farm and high stars maps from my ftiends, honestly i gived them a try just for fun, now im playing 3-4 stars maps and trying to fc with fl, just for fun but for some reason i see a lot of maps that i cant even complete 4* maps without mods in low rank lol.

Yesterday i find a good tip from a thing called tillerino, from now im going to request a map from he every time, have a lot of beatmaps in that game and i can't choice one for a good beginner :p (i know that bot is for pp but i'm not looking for that)

Sry for the bad english, im writering that in the supreme telephone from mom.. (the mom part its a joke)
Arm
lol this is actually me. Except i don't have a problem with it because thats what i found fun at the time lol. Didn't even know pp was a thing and i literally never logged in to check my account until my friend was talking about his account. Then i started farming a little but i still find just playing maps i like for fun mroe fun than farming.
Zelzatter Zero

Arm wrote:

lol this is actually me. Except i don't have a problem with it because thats what i found fun at the time lol. Didn't even know pp was a thing and i literally never logged in to check my account until my friend was talking about his account. Then i started farming a little but i still find just playing maps i like for fun mroe fun than farming.
literally me, but I don't even care at my playskill and pp and I won't anymore at this point (I'm a mapper now). In fact, I was having a Harumachi Clover as top play just because I find it fun SS'ing with all mods lul.
Redeal
I wouldn't say I have this problem, since I play maps around my skill range to try to FC and to practice consistency which is 5* since I want to get the 5* FC medal, and I practice 7* to improve my aim, reading, etc, I want to get an 8* pass, I think I'm close to passing Happppy, and I don't submit plays most of the time, only if I get good acc on a ranked map I will submit it. I'd say it's like 60% maps I can almost FC and 40% high diff training. Which I think is helping me improve a lot.
Jep_old_2
I just never play 7* maps LOL.
Kopi
uHh.. i'M an 6 DiGItS bUt i've PAssEd 6 7* WitH B rAnK sO Im BaSICally A 5 diGiTS
My Angel Nayuta
Haha, this feels so weird to be here, because even if I enjoy playing some 7* I feel like I can actually play some of those decently? Like sub 30 miss and above 500 combo (this is for 5min+ maps)? I don't play them often though, and I have decent consistency on most 5* and some 6* maps.
Maybe I'm affected but are in denial though lol
troIIing
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EXscrat
ah, IC, so I have been infected by this yea, guess what, too late, it's already been 2 years now
Lights
A very similar phenomenon is present in osu!mania as well. the star rating system for 4key mania is pitiful at best (star rating = object density; which is a very poor measure of difficulty for this style of rhythm game) and as such the skillsets needed to improve ones osu!mania rank at 4key arent nessecarily the skillsets needed to improve overall.

its quite common for a lot of intermediate level players to learn how to alternate their hands quickly to "manipulate" patterns into something easy to hit with passable accuracy and due to the nature of osu!mania's scoring system, you can get a good-ish score without actually playing the chart. As such, you'll have lower level players getting plays >100pp above what they're otherwise capable of doing. When this happens the players likely get a false sense of progression or "skill" and continue to push forward mashing through charts of a certain style of pattern.

the 4digit to low-5digit range is filled with players whose primary skillset is merely alternating their hands quickly to cheese dense bursty patterns, and i'd argue the situation present in osu!mania is worse due to a negetive feedback loop being created by the poor star rating and scoring systems rewarding purposefully suboptimal play.
YamichanKawaii
My friend and me suffer from the 6-digit 7*+ illness
Szynkowice
I tryed doing some 10* maps like whitecat but my mouse was broken and actually i nearly fc'd a 10* but choked at the end what should i do to play better

(obviously a joke please dont bully me)
Topic Starter
Almost

SpecialPotatoes wrote:

4-digit 10* player illness when
Seeing as 4-digit players are generally going to be somewhat good at this game (and only getting better), never.

Lights wrote:

A very similar phenomenon is present in osu!mania as well. the star rating system for 4key mania is pitiful at best (star rating = object density; which is a very poor measure of difficulty for this style of rhythm game) and as such the skillsets needed to improve ones osu!mania rank at 4key arent nessecarily the skillsets needed to improve overall.

its quite common for a lot of intermediate level players to learn how to alternate their hands quickly to "manipulate" patterns into something easy to hit with passable accuracy and due to the nature of osu!mania's scoring system, you can get a good-ish score without actually playing the chart. As such, you'll have lower level players getting plays >100pp above what they're otherwise capable of doing. When this happens the players likely get a false sense of progression or "skill" and continue to push forward mashing through charts of a certain style of pattern.

the 4digit to low-5digit range is filled with players whose primary skillset is merely alternating their hands quickly to cheese dense bursty patterns, and i'd argue the situation present in osu!mania is worse due to a negetive feedback loop being created by the poor star rating and scoring systems rewarding purposefully suboptimal play.
It just goes to show that playing solely to increase your in-game ranking can be quite toxic to your skill development.
shortpotato
thank you for promoting awareness of osu illness i salute your efforts
HiSoNoCash
I just wish i knew this earlier when i start playing this game . I really regret farming maps and thinking i was improving at a super fast rate .
lennyisgood
I have 6 digit 7* illness :c Ive decided im gonna try and play some 4-5 star maps to try and get better because i wanna get consistent and actually good, my aim is relatively good already but terrible acc so thats what i have to work on
maniaCmiC

lennyisgood wrote:

I have 6 digit 7* illness :c Ive decided im gonna try and play some 4-5 star maps to try and get better because i wanna get consistent and actually good, my aim is relatively good already but terrible acc so thats what i have to work on
If this is your goal, Play 2-3*
MEGATRONIKAL
im a 7 digit (1000000) and i can do 5 stars and sometime 6, im trying to do 7 star maps but i need a little bit more training, i played harumachi clover expert and got to rank 950k in one play. i don't think doing hard maps is a bad thing, i actually think it's a very good thing to train yourself. if you can do very hard maps, the easier maps will be easier to get high acc and fc on
Joon Yorigami

MEGATRONIKAL wrote:

im a 7 digit (1000000) and i can do 5 stars and sometime 6, im trying to do 7 star maps but i need a little bit more training, i played harumachi clover expert and got to rank 950k in one play. i don't think doing hard maps is a bad thing, i actually think it's a very good thing to train yourself. if you can do very hard maps, the easier maps will be easier to get high acc and fc on
don't necropost again okay?

also I really hope you are joking
Topic Starter
Almost

MEGATRONIKAL wrote:

im a 7 digit (1000000) and i can do 5 stars and sometime 6, im trying to do 7 star maps but i need a little bit more training, i played harumachi clover expert and got to rank 950k in one play. i don't think doing hard maps is a bad thing, i actually think it's a very good thing to train yourself. if you can do very hard maps, the easier maps will be easier to get high acc and fc on
The amount of people who only play maps that are far too difficult for them and and can get good accuracy and consistently FC easier maps is 0. Not even joking.
rematyar

Almost wrote:

MEGATRONIKAL wrote:

im a 7 digit (1000000) and i can do 5 stars and sometime 6, im trying to do 7 star maps but i need a little bit more training, i played harumachi clover expert and got to rank 950k in one play. i don't think doing hard maps is a bad thing, i actually think it's a very good thing to train yourself. if you can do very hard maps, the easier maps will be easier to get high acc and fc on
The amount of people who only play maps that are far too difficult for them and and can get good accuracy and consistently FC easier maps is 0. Not even joking.
even if there IS one, they would be accused for multi accounting
Szynkowice
Stop necroposting ples.
Flexxi qwe

maniaCmiC wrote:

lennyisgood wrote:

I have 6 digit 7* illness :c Ive decided im gonna try and play some 4-5 star maps to try and get better because i wanna get consistent and actually good, my aim is relatively good already but terrible acc so thats what i have to work on
If this is your goal, Play 2-3*
I'm the same as that person That you replied to, I have bad accuracy on 4-4.99* that I've been playing for a month or so, my accuracy is usually 80-95 and can't get any higher, and sometimes its even lower than 85 >.>, my aim, combos are all fine tho. Would you consider I go down to 2-3*? I went down to 3* before and concentrated on them for a good while but maybe I should've stayed longer? (my timing is definitely bad, even on 1 stars..)
Voidedosu
To put it simply and bluntly, yes. Definitely.

If you only really care about getting FCs and couldn't give a shit about accuracy, then that's your prerogative and you can keep at the level you're at. But if you want to be good (and I suppose seen as a good player, too), then you need to get your accuracy to the high 90s for your players. And that almost requires playing at 2-3*'s until you can get all the fundamentals of streaming (basic bursts at that difficulty), aim, and accuracy down pat. Then you can start moving upwards again.

Also, while I get that the topic is relevant, the Osu forums frown upon necro-posting. You'd be better off making a new topic of your own next time.
Juuuuuuuuul
This illness is only true for beginners,
most of the players that i personally know who were suffering from this illness,
have improved faster than me and are now way better than me.
They are, of course, able to FC easier maps with good acc now.
I think this illness is temporary and it's healing by itself with enough time spent into the game.
lennyisgood

maniaCmiC wrote:

lennyisgood wrote:

I have 6 digit 7* illness :c Ive decided im gonna try and play some 4-5 star maps to try and get better because i wanna get consistent and actually good, my aim is relatively good already but terrible acc so thats what i have to work on
If this is your goal, Play 2-3*
I know this is really old, but playing 4 and 5 stars has made my acc much better, i went from 70 accuracy on my account to 92 percent :)
KeikiEnjoyer
yo don't call me out like that dude
Manishh
I remember when i was playing multi a lot i found sooooo many room in which 7 and low 6 digit are playing 6-8star maps and thing i never understand that how they are enjoying it. I mean they cant even get 10 combo. how you can enjoy a map which you cant even play.

for me the fun maps were those which are hard and somewhat possible to pass like fallen 5star which is damn hard but i can pass it after some more practice
IryN

manishmathur wrote:

I remember when i was playing multi a lot i found sooooo many room in which 7 and low 6 digit are playing 6-8star maps and thing i never understand that how they are enjoying it. I mean they cant even get 10 combo. how you can enjoy a map which you cant even play.

for me the fun maps were those which are hard and somewhat possible to pass like fallen 5star which is damn hard but i can pass it after some more practice
maybe it makes them feel like a god or something when they actually hit something idk. It might also be that seeing all these top players doing all that stuff really well is so enticing that they just wanna copy it as well, kinda like how when people see TenZ playing aimlabs really well they just copy him by going fast instead of focusing on accuracy.
Manishh

IryN wrote:

manishmathur wrote:

I remember when i was playing multi a lot i found sooooo many room in which 7 and low 6 digit are playing 6-8star maps and thing i never understand that how they are enjoying it. I mean they cant even get 10 combo. how you can enjoy a map which you cant even play.

for me the fun maps were those which are hard and somewhat possible to pass like fallen 5star which is damn hard but i can pass it after some more practice
maybe it makes them feel like a god or something when they actually hit something idk. It might also be that seeing all these top players doing all that stuff really well is so enticing that they just wanna copy it as well, kinda like how when people see TenZ playing aimlabs really well they just copy him by going fast instead of focusing on accuracy.
lol maybe yes
but the surprising part is people still replying to this post and no one seeing its 14 months old
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