its a BATs job to check the maps he/she ranks? lol.Alpaka wrote:
Actually, it wasn't your mistake, but the problem with creator himself - as I said almost everyone mentioned that, and even though it wasn't changed.
anyway too late for that.
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Yes it is, anyway if the mapper don't listen to modders, then it's not BAT bad that mapper doesn't care about mods.Seph wrote:
its a BATs job to check the maps he/she ranks? lol.
anyway too late for that.
inb4 I'm not trying to defend BAT making mistake, but mappers should care about regular modders too.
Meanwhile it's unranked, I will point some suggestions...
[Exhaust]
Will post more if found, stay tuned. ok other than that - nothing and what Melophobia said.
[Exhaust]
- 00:16:370 (9) - NC on downbeat won't hurt there too
- 01:12:770 (2,3,4) - would suggest NC on (3) for better readability since there is rhythm change, and avoiding putting NC might cause confuse.
- 01:14:309 (3,4,5,1) - same as above, put nc on (3)
- 01:15:232 (2,3) - NC there for antijump
Seph
Then he/she shouldn't have ranked it then?Alpaka wrote:
Yes it is, anyway if the mapper don't listen to modders, then it's not BAT bad that mapper doesn't care about mods.Seph wrote:
its a BATs job to check the maps he/she ranks? lol.
anyway too late for that.
inb4 I'm not trying to defend BAT making mistake, but mappers should care about regular modders too.
Anyways I'm done.
01:07:232 - there should be an extra redline to correct downbeats
It is mainly the mapper's fault for not fixing something that has been mentionned 4 times. (it is also the MAT and BAT's fault, but it happens to everyone to miss something, we're not perfect).
遅くなってごめんあさい、かkamipikel ;_;
Topic Starter
I had been pointed out many times about new combo in last part.
I know that.
However, I had decided not to change my preference, and it is my mapping style.
Besides, were there any rules that I must force the NC?
If guys insist too, I change it.
Isn't this accepted?
I know that.
However, I had decided not to change my preference, and it is my mapping style.
Besides, were there any rules that I must force the NC?
If guys insist too, I change it.
Isn't this accepted?
There is difference between mapping style, and just bad mapping...
However - New combo is supposed to follow music - and there clearly is a sound (a clap / finish, call it however you want - it appears every downbeat) which you can follow and create NC with that
However - New combo is supposed to follow music - and there clearly is a sound (a clap / finish, call it however you want - it appears every downbeat) which you can follow and create NC with that
Chocopikel wrote:
I had been pointed out many times about new combo in last part.
I know that.
However, I had decided not to change my preference, and it is my mapping style.
Besides, were there any rules that I must force the NC?
If guys insist too, I change it.
Isn't this accepted?
Actually NCs on antijump/antispacing should be ALWAYS so player will know there is rhythm change. (about my suggestions).
About NCs on last pattern, take a look for map in CTB for example, player will get overload of fruits which could cause confusion and miss(CTB isn't main mode but still). Have you seen any ranked map with such combo colors? Also it's common sense about cutting down combo numbers. Does it really hurt to add them to some downbeats?
You have two choices:
1. Add some NCs on last stream on downbeats(and try to use my suggestions and Melophobia's one, they really make map a bit much better). And enjoy map reranked.
2. Let it rot in graveyard or being nuked.
^ Oh yeah, i forgot about antijumps.
Topic Starter
sigh...
okay. fixed.
and add extra redline (Melophobia's mod)
okay. fixed.
and add extra redline (Melophobia's mod)
cool mapset <3
ok
ok
about anti-jump , I don't think adding NC will help read better in the first time.Bass wrote:
Chocopikel wrote:
I had been pointed out many times about new combo in last part.
I know that.
However, I had decided not to change my preference, and it is my mapping style.
Besides, were there any rules that I must force the NC?
If guys insist too, I change it.
Isn't this accepted?
Actually NCs on antijump/antispacing should be ALWAYS so player will know there is rhythm change. (about my suggestions).
About NCs on last pattern, take a look for map in CTB for example, player will get overload of fruits which could cause confusion and miss(CTB isn't main mode but still). Have you seen any ranked map with such combo colors? Also it's common sense about cutting down combo numbers. Does it really hurt to add them to some downbeats?
You have two choices:
1. Add some NCs on last stream on downbeats(and try to use my suggestions and Melophobia's one, they really make map a bit much better). And enjoy map reranked.
2. Let it rot in graveyard or being nuked.
The mapper already did it consistently well
01:12:770 (2,3) -
01:14:001 (2,3) -
01:15:232 (2,3) -
according to the previous version
also you shouldn't say something like "You have two choices:,Let it rot in graveyard or being nuked." , it looks cruel really
bad mapping?Alpaka wrote:
There is difference between mapping style, and just bad mapping...
However - New combo is supposed to follow music - and there clearly is a sound (a clap / finish, call it however you want - it appears every downbeat) which you can follow and create NC with that
anyways, good luck for getting re-ranked
I just wanted to realise mapper what would happen if she/he is stubborn.
Did some IRC modding. Mostly getting decent difficulty settings, fixing combo lengths, setting tick rate 2 on the high level difficulties. We need to wait until the sliders don't all get deleted when we change tick rate, so I'll continue when that is fixed.
Edit:
Did a little more modding to tweak things, and we're good to go! Rebubbled!
SPOILER
09:14 Chocopikel: waaaaaaaaa ;_;
09:15 Chocopikel: my map was unranked...
09:15 Chocopikel: How do I do?
09:19 Garven: New combo no sei dane
09:19 Chocopikel: un...
09:19 Garven: chotto matte kudasai
09:19 Chocopikel: it was fixed
09:19 Garven: ima tada sigoto kara kita
09:20 Chocopikel: wakatta
09:48 Garven: okke
09:48 Garven: /np kudasai
09:48 Chocopikel: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/196839 TeamGrimoire+Amaneko - croiX]
09:49 Garven: Easy:
09:49 Garven: 00:08:934 (1,1,1,1) - I don't recommend using new combo spam like that
09:49 Garven: It breaks the HP Drain metric of the game
09:50 Chocopikel: BPM will change each, it's ok?
09:50 Garven: zenbu slider kedo w
09:50 Chocopikel: www
09:51 Chocopikel: ok
09:51 Garven: 00:25:601 (2) - Reduce by one repeat? Having a short repeating slider like this with more than one repeat can be confusing to new players
09:51 Garven: Adjust spacing if you do
09:52 Garven: 00:36:678 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - This part is really boring :<
09:52 Garven: Try using a different rhythm
09:52 Garven: mm
09:52 Chocopikel: tyotto mattewww
09:53 Chocopikel: my english is poor and take a long time to understand English
09:53 Chocopikel: gomen~
09:53 Garven: gomen
09:55 Chocopikel: nannka
09:55 Chocopikel: slider
09:55 Chocopikel: magerenai
09:55 Chocopikel: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/623287
09:55 Chocopikel: kieteru...
09:55 Garven: mm okke
09:57 Chocopikel: ok, done
09:58 Garven: 0:36 mo?
09:58 Chocopikel: aaaa matte~ ;_; gomen...
09:58 Garven: ww
09:58 Garven: Something like this, maybe: http://puu.sh/26avm
10:00 Chocopikel: hm... boring...
10:00 Garven: 2/1 rizumu dake kara
10:01 Chocopikel: nn...
10:01 Chocopikel: this rhythm is
10:01 Chocopikel: chotto muzukashii
10:02 Garven: maa fix hazujanai. boku no kanji dake
10:02 Chocopikel: to omou
10:02 Chocopikel: 00:36:678 - koreha no change de gomen...
10:03 Garven: 00:56:370 (1,1,1,1) - new combos again w
10:04 Chocopikel: ok
10:04 Chocopikel: 01:01:805 (1) -
10:04 Chocopikel: same? dayone?
10:05 Garven: un
10:05 Chocopikel: k
10:05 Garven: 01:26:924 (1) - kono Combo ha mijikai... 01:29:385 (1) - kono ha nagai
10:05 Garven: ?_?
10:06 Chocopikel: 01:32:462 (3) - add new combo, done
10:08 Chocopikel: 01:26:924 (1) -
10:08 Chocopikel: kokoha...
10:09 Chocopikel: song no pattern
10:09 Chocopikel: koko de atteru to omou
10:09 Garven: a 00:20:678 (2) - mo nagai combo da
10:10 Chocopikel: 00:22:524 (3) - add new combo
10:10 Chocopikel: same pattern
10:11 Garven: OD +1/2 kudasai
10:12 Chocopikel: are?
10:12 Chocopikel: 01:35:539 (2) -
10:12 Chocopikel: koko mo
10:12 Chocopikel: 00:25:601 (2) - issyo dayone?
10:12 Chocopikel: changed
10:13 Garven: hai, demo slider no owari kara muri desu ne
10:13 Chocopikel: ganbatte kaetayo~~~
10:13 Chocopikel: because I became a god
10:14 Chocopikel: OD +1 done
10:14 Garven: ohohoho
10:14 Garven: ja, Novice:
10:14 Garven: OD +1/2 mo
10:14 Chocopikel: ha-i
10:14 Chocopikel: +1 k
10:14 Garven: 00:08:934 (1,1,1,1) - spaaaammmmm
10:14 Chocopikel: hai www
10:15 Chocopikel: done
10:16 Garven: 00:19:447 (1) - fm
10:16 Garven: combo ga chotto onaji ne
10:16 Garven: 00:18:217 (1) - remove?
10:16 Garven: futatu de nagai de ii
10:18 Garven: 00:36:678 (1) - mada boring...
10:18 Garven: 00:56:370 (1,1) - ncncncncncnc
10:18 Chocopikel: hai w tyotto mattene w
10:19 Garven: Advanced: OD +1/2
10:20 Garven: onaji no combo koto w
10:22 Garven: tick rate 2 fits better here
10:23 Garven: 01:12:155 (1,2) - Spacing ga chotto chikai kamo
10:24 Garven: Exhaust: OD +1/2
10:24 Garven: tick rate 2
10:27 Chocopikel: advanced to exhaust ha dotti mo no change de please~
10:27 Garven: At least rais OD
10:27 Garven: It's too low compared to AR
10:27 Garven: Makes it dubiously easy
10:27 Garven: Especially when you have so many streams in the Insane
10:28 Garven: If you get offtime, it's -very hard- to get your timing back
10:28 Garven: sousite NC spam no koto mo aru yo
10:29 Garven: 01:26:309 (1) - You ahve to use tick rate 2 if you want to keep this slow slider
10:31 Chocopikel: tick rate kaetara
10:31 Chocopikel: slider ga kieta
10:31 Garven: un Recalculation dakara
10:31 Garven: mendokusai ne
10:32 Chocopikel: ehh... doushiyou...
10:33 Garven: chotto matte ne
10:37 Garven: fm
10:37 Garven: bagu kamo
10:37 Chocopikel: dayone
09:15 Chocopikel: my map was unranked...
09:15 Chocopikel: How do I do?
09:19 Garven: New combo no sei dane
09:19 Chocopikel: un...
09:19 Garven: chotto matte kudasai
09:19 Chocopikel: it was fixed
09:19 Garven: ima tada sigoto kara kita
09:20 Chocopikel: wakatta
09:48 Garven: okke
09:48 Garven: /np kudasai
09:48 Chocopikel: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/196839 TeamGrimoire+Amaneko - croiX]
09:49 Garven: Easy:
09:49 Garven: 00:08:934 (1,1,1,1) - I don't recommend using new combo spam like that
09:49 Garven: It breaks the HP Drain metric of the game
09:50 Chocopikel: BPM will change each, it's ok?
09:50 Garven: zenbu slider kedo w
09:50 Chocopikel: www
09:51 Chocopikel: ok
09:51 Garven: 00:25:601 (2) - Reduce by one repeat? Having a short repeating slider like this with more than one repeat can be confusing to new players
09:51 Garven: Adjust spacing if you do
09:52 Garven: 00:36:678 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - This part is really boring :<
09:52 Garven: Try using a different rhythm
09:52 Garven: mm
09:52 Chocopikel: tyotto mattewww
09:53 Chocopikel: my english is poor and take a long time to understand English
09:53 Chocopikel: gomen~
09:53 Garven: gomen
09:55 Chocopikel: nannka
09:55 Chocopikel: slider
09:55 Chocopikel: magerenai
09:55 Chocopikel: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/623287
09:55 Chocopikel: kieteru...
09:55 Garven: mm okke
09:57 Chocopikel: ok, done
09:58 Garven: 0:36 mo?
09:58 Chocopikel: aaaa matte~ ;_; gomen...
09:58 Garven: ww
09:58 Garven: Something like this, maybe: http://puu.sh/26avm
10:00 Chocopikel: hm... boring...
10:00 Garven: 2/1 rizumu dake kara
10:01 Chocopikel: nn...
10:01 Chocopikel: this rhythm is
10:01 Chocopikel: chotto muzukashii
10:02 Garven: maa fix hazujanai. boku no kanji dake
10:02 Chocopikel: to omou
10:02 Chocopikel: 00:36:678 - koreha no change de gomen...
10:03 Garven: 00:56:370 (1,1,1,1) - new combos again w
10:04 Chocopikel: ok
10:04 Chocopikel: 01:01:805 (1) -
10:04 Chocopikel: same? dayone?
10:05 Garven: un
10:05 Chocopikel: k
10:05 Garven: 01:26:924 (1) - kono Combo ha mijikai... 01:29:385 (1) - kono ha nagai
10:05 Garven: ?_?
10:06 Chocopikel: 01:32:462 (3) - add new combo, done
10:08 Chocopikel: 01:26:924 (1) -
10:08 Chocopikel: kokoha...
10:09 Chocopikel: song no pattern
10:09 Chocopikel: koko de atteru to omou
10:09 Garven: a 00:20:678 (2) - mo nagai combo da
10:10 Chocopikel: 00:22:524 (3) - add new combo
10:10 Chocopikel: same pattern
10:11 Garven: OD +1/2 kudasai
10:12 Chocopikel: are?
10:12 Chocopikel: 01:35:539 (2) -
10:12 Chocopikel: koko mo
10:12 Chocopikel: 00:25:601 (2) - issyo dayone?
10:12 Chocopikel: changed
10:13 Garven: hai, demo slider no owari kara muri desu ne
10:13 Chocopikel: ganbatte kaetayo~~~
10:13 Chocopikel: because I became a god
10:14 Chocopikel: OD +1 done
10:14 Garven: ohohoho
10:14 Garven: ja, Novice:
10:14 Garven: OD +1/2 mo
10:14 Chocopikel: ha-i
10:14 Chocopikel: +1 k
10:14 Garven: 00:08:934 (1,1,1,1) - spaaaammmmm
10:14 Chocopikel: hai www
10:15 Chocopikel: done
10:16 Garven: 00:19:447 (1) - fm
10:16 Garven: combo ga chotto onaji ne
10:16 Garven: 00:18:217 (1) - remove?
10:16 Garven: futatu de nagai de ii
10:18 Garven: 00:36:678 (1) - mada boring...
10:18 Garven: 00:56:370 (1,1) - ncncncncncnc
10:18 Chocopikel: hai w tyotto mattene w
10:19 Garven: Advanced: OD +1/2
10:20 Garven: onaji no combo koto w
10:22 Garven: tick rate 2 fits better here
10:23 Garven: 01:12:155 (1,2) - Spacing ga chotto chikai kamo
10:24 Garven: Exhaust: OD +1/2
10:24 Garven: tick rate 2
10:27 Chocopikel: advanced to exhaust ha dotti mo no change de please~
10:27 Garven: At least rais OD
10:27 Garven: It's too low compared to AR
10:27 Garven: Makes it dubiously easy
10:27 Garven: Especially when you have so many streams in the Insane
10:28 Garven: If you get offtime, it's -very hard- to get your timing back
10:28 Garven: sousite NC spam no koto mo aru yo
10:29 Garven: 01:26:309 (1) - You ahve to use tick rate 2 if you want to keep this slow slider
10:31 Chocopikel: tick rate kaetara
10:31 Chocopikel: slider ga kieta
10:31 Garven: un Recalculation dakara
10:31 Garven: mendokusai ne
10:32 Chocopikel: ehh... doushiyou...
10:33 Garven: chotto matte ne
10:37 Garven: fm
10:37 Garven: bagu kamo
10:37 Chocopikel: dayone
Edit:
Did a little more modding to tweak things, and we're good to go! Rebubbled!
everything looks fine for me~~ and since the main issue is resolved already~~
reranked~~
reranked~~
おめでとう！（途中からｗ）
Topic Starter
Thanks for support!
Especially, Frostmourne, Melophobia, Garven, Scorpiour!!
Especially, Frostmourne, Melophobia, Garven, Scorpiour!!
Congratulation on your reranking, Chocopikel!
Choco grats 
!
!Omedeto Re-rank ~
gratz for re ranked Choco , awesome
Topic Starter
Thank you guys \:D/
Congrats!! <3
wow gratz!
gratz xD
Really like the Exhaust diff. Except for the end stream,, totally uncalled for.
hello, as mod req, I try to do some mania diffs' mod~
I think the two diffs currentlly are really nice / perfect.
even I'm not sure that my opinion would let them better or worse ;w;
I'm a noob mapper.
here's my opinion.
Roxas' Mania Normal
01:18:308 (78308|6,78462|6,78616|0,78770|0,78924|6,79078|6,79232|0,79385|0,79539|6,79539|2,79847|4,80155|6,80462|0,80462|1,80616|6,80616|5) -
How about flip horizontally (Ctrl + H)?
after this 01:20:616 (80616|5,80616|6) - is a streamlet (1/4 timing)
I think it could avoid double clicking with right hand
Roxas' Mania Insane
00:08:473 - add?
{
00:08:780 - add?
00:33:140 - add like this part 00:33:755 -
00:41:755 (41755|4,41832|2,41909|6,41909|0) - add 1/8 timing note in this part?
00:43:140 - add a note to |7| ?
00:43:986 - add a note
{
00:46:447 - ^?
01:46:001 - add a note?
I think the two diffs currentlly are really nice / perfect.
even I'm not sure that my opinion would let them better or worse ;w;
I'm a noob mapper.
here's my opinion.
Roxas' Mania Normal
01:18:308 (78308|6,78462|6,78616|0,78770|0,78924|6,79078|6,79232|0,79385|0,79539|6,79539|2,79847|4,80155|6,80462|0,80462|1,80616|6,80616|5) -
How about flip horizontally (Ctrl + H)?
after this 01:20:616 (80616|5,80616|6) - is a streamlet (1/4 timing)
I think it could avoid double clicking with right hand
Roxas' Mania Insane
00:08:473 - add?
{
00:08:780 - add?
00:33:140 - add like this part 00:33:755 -
00:41:755 (41755|4,41832|2,41909|6,41909|0) - add 1/8 timing note in this part?
00:43:140 - add a note to |7| ?
00:43:986 - add a note
{
00:46:447 - ^?
01:46:001 - add a note?