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I need to fucking redeem myself. last 2 games i played like balls.
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I told myself I would take a break from these.
I am also weak.
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I am also weak.
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Sounds like fun.
Count me /in.
Count me /in.
I'm excited about the win conditions 
Mind games?
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let's do this thang
confirm
confirmeddddd
confirmed~ ^_^
Topic Starter
Off-Topic: Those interested in suggesting which of my future mafia game ideas I use, should see the General Mafia thread in the General Discussion forum.
Confirm
Confurmed.
Confirmed.
Topic Starter
Only two more need to confirm, so we'll start now.
6 days.
With 9 alive it's 5 to lynch.
6 days.
With 9 alive it's 5 to lynch.
Random.org gives...4!
...really Random.org, really??
Let's go with int(rand(9)) then.
vote: Rantai
...really Random.org, really??
Let's go with int(rand(9)) then.
vote: Rantai
No sense letting a perfectly good random number go to waste.
vote Lybydose
vote Lybydose
@0_o, 4 was Lyb... you wouldn't vote for yourself, would you?
that was his point.. he used the random number that Lyby didn't...animask wrote:
@0_o, 4 was Lyb... you wouldn't vote for yourself, would you?
In case you all aren't familiar with faceman's meta, that will be his first and only vote for this game.
Nah I'm quite familiar with his metaRolled wrote:
In case you all aren't familiar with faceman's meta, that will be his first and only vote for this game.
oh youRolled wrote:
In case you all aren't familiar with faceman's meta, that will be his first and only vote for this game.
I was exaggerating a bit when I was talking about my indecisiveness in the last game, I actually do usually make a judgement call and get a vote in by the end of the day. I was just banking on nobody actually taking the time to look through my other games to catch that
vote: animask
he always says some suspicious shit and then never gets killed because people think hes just dumb, and he didnt say "why am i always town" or whatever
if hes mafia i deserve a medal
he always says some suspicious shit and then never gets killed because people think hes just dumb, and he didnt say "why am i always town" or whatever
if hes mafia i deserve a medal
Vote: 0_o
Randomly selected.
Randomly selected.
Oh we're starting already?
Vote Kiddo-kun because who the heck is kiddo-kun
Vote Kiddo-kun because who the heck is kiddo-kun
Vote: Wojjan You scare me.
Side note: Screw meta
Side note: Screw meta
At this point I can vote for anyone, right? I vote for...
Vote: Lybydose
... because I don't know you very well.
Vote: Lybydose
... because I don't know you very well.
are these rvs done yet?
You don't just decide to end RVS.
You just gotta let it happen, man~
You just gotta let it happen, man~
*automatic message*
Alright sorry guys, going to a friend's cottage for the weekend so I won't have internet for approximately 48 hours.
Don't do anything stupid while I'm gone <3
*beeeep*
Alright sorry guys, going to a friend's cottage for the weekend so I won't have internet for approximately 48 hours.
Don't do anything stupid while I'm gone <3
*beeeep*
So who wants to be the random lynch? any jesters in the house?
Wojjan wrote:
Vote: Wojjan
what he said
Okay, random overused conversation starter:
What faction does everybody prefer to be sided with? Don't forget to say why ^_^
I like being pro-town, preferably vanilla. I feel I play the best when there's no real pressure to make game-changing decisions. It also makes me feel like I have less to lose, so I'm not really afraid to point fingers at anybody I see with an ounce of suspicion. I don't think I've been lynched as pro-town yet, no big deal~
What faction does everybody prefer to be sided with? Don't forget to say why ^_^
I like being pro-town, preferably vanilla. I feel I play the best when there's no real pressure to make game-changing decisions. It also makes me feel like I have less to lose, so I'm not really afraid to point fingers at anybody I see with an ounce of suspicion. I don't think I've been lynched as pro-town yet, no big deal~
The play by Rolled seems familiar...
I still prefer a vanilla townie role, because in case you get lynched you aren't too important anyways. I'm starting to learn
that any role that gives the most freedom is the best role. So far I have played a mason role a few times and I think mason
roles are fun too. I like being a townie or a mason (or a townie mason).
Also, everyone should keep posting things because your hidden win condition could be based on something you post.
I still prefer a vanilla townie role, because in case you get lynched you aren't too important anyways. I'm starting to learn
that any role that gives the most freedom is the best role. So far I have played a mason role a few times and I think mason
roles are fun too. I like being a townie or a mason (or a townie mason).
Also, everyone should keep posting things because your hidden win condition could be based on something you post.
Independant, Mafia and Town are too mainstream.Rolled wrote:
What faction does everybody prefer to be sided with? Don't forget to say why ^_^
Now that I've played all three alignments I can say I don't have a clear favourite, they're all fun.Rolled wrote:
Okay, random overused conversation starter:
What faction does everybody prefer to be sided with? Don't forget to say why ^_^
If I had to choose though, I'd say an independent role because there's no pressure in doing things wrong or right. My decisions won't affect the rest of my team.
I haven't played in a Mafia before. But going on your own sounds fun. No pressure.
Topic Starter
Just a friendly reminder that if the players don't post often enough I will cut the deadline shorter. I haven't ever had to do this before, but I certainly will if there's not enough talking.
Non-Mafia
Mafia is annoying because I have to carefully reread everything I type to make sure I didn't slip something up somewhere. It gets even more annoying later in the game because if I tell a lie about anything at any point, I have to go back and make sure I'm consistent with that lie. Furthermore, I don't like coming up with fake reasons for why I think people are mafia when I know that they aren't. It's more difficult to act "natural" as mafia than as town, and I always second guess everything.
On the other hand, I like being able to privately communicate with people I know are the same alignment to run things by them and get 2nd opinions. Though I've never drawn a mason or cult role, I would probably prefer either of those over other roles.
Mafia is annoying because I have to carefully reread everything I type to make sure I didn't slip something up somewhere. It gets even more annoying later in the game because if I tell a lie about anything at any point, I have to go back and make sure I'm consistent with that lie. Furthermore, I don't like coming up with fake reasons for why I think people are mafia when I know that they aren't. It's more difficult to act "natural" as mafia than as town, and I always second guess everything.
On the other hand, I like being able to privately communicate with people I know are the same alignment to run things by them and get 2nd opinions. Though I've never drawn a mason or cult role, I would probably prefer either of those over other roles.
I'm baaaack.
I enjoy playing any role, but I'm going to say I like Independent the most, specifically serial killer. Granted I've only been an SK once, and it was the game where almost EVERYONE was, but I loved the feeling of being a "lone wolf". I can honestly search for mafia by day (when I was mafia I found it quite stressful having to think of reasons that someone is guilty when I know they aren't), and be free to gun for whoever I wanted by night.
I was asked this in an earlier game, but since then I have been mafia (twice), independent and a crazy super aux so my opinion has changed a bit since thenRolled wrote:
What faction does everybody prefer to be sided with? Don't forget to say why ^_^
I enjoy playing any role, but I'm going to say I like Independent the most, specifically serial killer. Granted I've only been an SK once, and it was the game where almost EVERYONE was, but I loved the feeling of being a "lone wolf". I can honestly search for mafia by day (when I was mafia I found it quite stressful having to think of reasons that someone is guilty when I know they aren't), and be free to gun for whoever I wanted by night.
But painting guilt as mafia is half the fun imo.
I wonder how these hidden conditions work. Let's say a condition was: Roleblock someone who has targeted you for death.
If we had a jailkeeper, mafia roleblocker, SK and mafia goon - The JK blocked goon and the Roleblocker blocked the SK would both players/parties win?
I wonder how these hidden conditions work. Let's say a condition was: Roleblock someone who has targeted you for death.
If we had a jailkeeper, mafia roleblocker, SK and mafia goon - The JK blocked goon and the Roleblocker blocked the SK would both players/parties win?
Topic Starter
If multiple players trigger a hidden condition at the same time, they will all win. Theoretically, in certain of these games it will be possible for every single player in the game to win. However, when that is the case, it will likely be extremely difficult.Rantai wrote:
But painting guilt as mafia is half the fun imo.
I wonder how these hidden conditions work. Let's say a condition was: Roleblock someone who has targeted you for death.
If we had a jailkeeper, mafia roleblocker, SK and mafia goon - The JK blocked goon and the Roleblocker blocked the SK would both players/parties win?
Well it was, but at the same time I just found it a lot more difficult than I thought I would, in the last game at least. I did have an easier time in TF2 mafia, but seeing as it was barely active it really didn't take a whole lot of evidence to incriminate someone anyway. Maybe it was just the fact that we were in trouble from the beginning and I didn't have a reliable partner to communicate and discuss things with, but overall my experience as mafia just hasn't been amazing so far.Rantai wrote:
But painting guilt as mafia is half the fun imo.
Hmm kk.
Unvote, Vote: No lynch
This gives everyone a chance at hitting the hidden winning condition, I am highly curious to see where things will end up.
@0_o - Yeah I know, I was just teasing
Unvote, Vote: No lynch
This gives everyone a chance at hitting the hidden winning condition, I am highly curious to see where things will end up.
@0_o - Yeah I know, I was just teasing
That and nothing is happening so I can't exactly make an informed choice.
FoS animask
He's being a lot more cautious than usual it seems. Usually by this point he would have said something really stupid that makes everyone suspicious of him, and then, due to his meta of being incredibly suspicious as a townie all the time, everyone would realize that he is in fact probably town and not lynch him.
Anyway, it's the complete opposite this game.
Well except this
He's being a lot more cautious than usual it seems. Usually by this point he would have said something really stupid that makes everyone suspicious of him, and then, due to his meta of being incredibly suspicious as a townie all the time, everyone would realize that he is in fact probably town and not lynch him.
Anyway, it's the complete opposite this game.
Well except this
That's a somewhat scummy remark, but not a blatantly scummy one.animask wrote:
At this point I can vote for anyone, right?
My favorite role would have to be any pro-town aux. This is actually the role that I've held most through all my werewolf and mafia games. I like having a powerful role, but still being able to enjoy the game and not have to focus too much time on painting others as scum. I guess this would exclude a guardian angel type role, it seems like a lot of pressure and role-claiming guardian angel is just asking to be NK'd.
For the most part this conversation has gotten us nowhere and nobody is really talking. Leaving my vote on animask as is.
Nobody is really contributing anything to the game. Is this because there's too many games running at once or what? I don't really feel like checking because its late and I've been at work for a while now.
In short: Are the least active players in this game currently participating in another mafia-type forum game?
For the most part this conversation has gotten us nowhere and nobody is really talking. Leaving my vote on animask as is.
Nobody is really contributing anything to the game. Is this because there's too many games running at once or what? I don't really feel like checking because its late and I've been at work for a while now.
In short: Are the least active players in this game currently participating in another mafia-type forum game?
Double posting because I'm bored. I feel like there should be more people, I guess everyone has actually talked but the conversation seems so barren. I saw faceguy's post about leaving for 2 days and then I saw his obligatory "I'm back" post. I didn't think 2 days had actually passed but they had. I guess its understandable for people to want to lay low and not be the first one lynched, but realize if you don't post at all not only do people start to make assumptions, but you hurt the game as the day phase may be shortened by mod.
1 concurrent mafia game that I can see so far;foulcoon wrote:
In short: Are the least active players in this game currently participating in another mafia-type forum game?
Of those in this game:
Mashley
0_o
animask
So I don't suspect an overload in games.
I'm not in any other mafia games, at least not currently.
There really hasn't been anything valuable so far in this game to go off of. It's been a wave of RVs, and then a few people answering my irrelevant question. Usually by nowanimask somebody has done something mildly suspicious, enough to at least justify a vote from a few people.
That said, Lyby makes a good point.
@Rantai, nolynch never beneficial to town etc etc etc. I think the best way to deal with the hidden win conditions are to ignore them. If you stumble upon it, sweet. Once people start prioritizing the hidden conditions over the known conditions is when people'll make mistakes.
There really hasn't been anything valuable so far in this game to go off of. It's been a wave of RVs, and then a few people answering my irrelevant question. Usually by now
That said, Lyby makes a good point.
@Rantai, nolynch never beneficial to town etc etc etc. I think the best way to deal with the hidden win conditions are to ignore them. If you stumble upon it, sweet. Once people start prioritizing the hidden conditions over the known conditions is when people'll make mistakes.
True, pursuing a non-serious goal out of curiosity will detract from the game.
However, at this stage, I've got nothing to go on and it isn't the majority vote so I'll leave it for now.
Needs more talking around here.
However, at this stage, I've got nothing to go on and it isn't the majority vote so I'll leave it for now.
Needs more talking around here.
I'm not really being cautious. There just really isn't any conversation going on.
@Lyb, I was just referring to that part of the game where people make random votes for no reason. I recall this
being a temporary phase for Day 1 and once discussions starts, I'll be able to unvote and find someone who is actually
suspicious. I'm not as suspicious, because I'm actually trying to do better at this game. I'm not trying to be suspicious
on purpose.
If you really want to do some meta-gaming, in the last Less Experimental Mafia (LEM?), I said I would try to be less suspicious.
It didn't start with this game.
@Rolled, I believe that no-lynch isn't that good based on your reasoning (I feel like I've said this before...)
@Rantai, win conditions could be anything and not just from the use of a role. I've said that one of the win conditions
could be something you post. I'm assuming the win conditions are really diverse rather than really similar.
unvote
FoS Lyb
Reason: Using meta-gaming and a very small scum tell to add suspicion on me.
@Lyb, I was just referring to that part of the game where people make random votes for no reason. I recall this
being a temporary phase for Day 1 and once discussions starts, I'll be able to unvote and find someone who is actually
suspicious. I'm not as suspicious, because I'm actually trying to do better at this game. I'm not trying to be suspicious
on purpose.
If you really want to do some meta-gaming, in the last Less Experimental Mafia (LEM?), I said I would try to be less suspicious.
It didn't start with this game.
@Rolled, I believe that no-lynch isn't that good based on your reasoning (I feel like I've said this before...)
@Rantai, win conditions could be anything and not just from the use of a role. I've said that one of the win conditions
could be something you post. I'm assuming the win conditions are really diverse rather than really similar.
unvote
FoS Lyb
Reason: Using meta-gaming and a very small scum tell to add suspicion on me.
Meta is a very important part of this game to me, and clearly many other people. Granted, it's the complete opposite for other people, but not enough to discredit the logic entirely.
Also, information on day 1 is slim. If you happen to find something that doesn't seem right, you should definitely pursue it.
Seems like an OMGUS FoS.
Also, information on day 1 is slim. If you happen to find something that doesn't seem right, you should definitely pursue it.
Seems like an OMGUS FoS.
So I take it nobody saw my post on day 2 where I actually voted for animask for the same exact reason. I guess you can FoS Lyby for being the 2nd on the "bandwagon" though lol. My vote never was an RV, it was a lame meta-gaming vote.
@Rolled, I use meta-gaming, but I weigh it very small compared to other things (tells, behavior, etc.) I'm also feeling suspicious
of Lyb because of his unknown playstyle. In other words, I thought Lyb's reasoning was kind of weak. Also, it wasn't a OMGUS FoS. I just
thought he was trying too hard to find small suspicions in order to frame me because I'm usually the suspicious one. Meta-gaming towards my
previous behavior just makes me easy picking.
@foulcoon, oh, I thought your vote was just a weak meta-gaming RV. It makes sense because there was nothing to
use yet.
of Lyb because of his unknown playstyle. In other words, I thought Lyb's reasoning was kind of weak. Also, it wasn't a OMGUS FoS. I just
thought he was trying too hard to find small suspicions in order to frame me because I'm usually the suspicious one. Meta-gaming towards my
previous behavior just makes me easy picking.
@foulcoon, oh, I thought your vote was just a weak meta-gaming RV. It makes sense because there was nothing to
use yet.
So you approve of foulcoon's vote on you for metagaming, but FoS Lybydose for his? That definitely doesn't seem right.animask wrote:
@foulcoon, oh, I thought your vote was just a weak meta-gaming RV. It makes sense because there was nothing to use yet.
vote: animask
Why all the attention on me again?
Reason: foulcoon is only lightly using meta-gaming, while Lyb is using more meta-gaming and pairing it with a small scum tell.
Conclusion: I don't think meta-gaming should be used as strongly for suspicions. Meta-gaming should be used to sculpt a general
playstyle of each person.
Reason: foulcoon is only lightly using meta-gaming, while Lyb is using more meta-gaming and pairing it with a small scum tell.
Conclusion: I don't think meta-gaming should be used as strongly for suspicions. Meta-gaming should be used to sculpt a general
playstyle of each person.
How I read this: "I'm not suspicious because I decided not be suspicious this game, so I find Lyby suspicious for calling me out as suspicious when I'm obviously not."animask wrote:
I'm not really being cautious. There just really isn't any conversation going on.
@Lyb, I was just referring to that part of the game where people make random votes for no reason. I recall this
being a temporary phase for Day 1 and once discussions starts, I'll be able to unvote and find someone who is actually
suspicious. I'm not as suspicious, because I'm actually trying to do better at this game. I'm not trying to be suspicious
on purpose.
[...]
FoS Lyb
Reason: Using meta-gaming and a very small scum tell to add suspicion on me.
No animask, I'm using it to put pressure on you to get you to talk and see how you react. That's how you actually find scum. Your reaction was pretty big: OMGUS fosing me, saying meta doesn't matter and then defending yourself against my calling you out with meta by using meta, this quote
vote: animask
etc etcanimask wrote:
Why all the attention on me again?
vote: animask
1. animask
2. Mashley
3. Wojjan
4. Lybydose
5. foulcoon
6. Rolled
7. 0_o
8. Kiddo-Kun
9. Rantai
5 people have attacked/questioned animask: (in order? I think)
Foulcoon, Rantai, Rolled, Wojjan, 0_o.
If animask turns out to be mafia, odds of one of the above 5 people being mafia? Not that great imo (though possible, especially because of what faceman made public towards the end of LEM 1)
I definitely can't find anybody that appears scummier than animask at the moment, however the amount of people on his case is alarming to me. If animask is indeed mafia, then it's most likely his partner is either Kiddo or Mashley. Personally, I think it's more likely that one, if not both mafia members are present in the group attacking him.
At the rate things are going, however, animask seems to be really the only candidate for day 1's lynching. If you are indeed town I suggest you find a way to prove it asap.
2. Mashley
3. Wojjan
4. Lybydose
5. foulcoon
6. Rolled
7. 0_o
8. Kiddo-Kun
9. Rantai
5 people have attacked/questioned animask: (in order? I think)
Foulcoon, Rantai, Rolled, Wojjan, 0_o.
If animask turns out to be mafia, odds of one of the above 5 people being mafia? Not that great imo (though possible, especially because of what faceman made public towards the end of LEM 1)
I definitely can't find anybody that appears scummier than animask at the moment, however the amount of people on his case is alarming to me. If animask is indeed mafia, then it's most likely his partner is either Kiddo or Mashley. Personally, I think it's more likely that one, if not both mafia members are present in the group attacking him.
At the rate things are going, however, animask seems to be really the only candidate for day 1's lynching. If you are indeed town I suggest you find a way to prove it asap.
Fixed some shit that i fucked up.Rolled wrote:
5 people have attacked/questioned animask: (in order? I think)
Foulcoon,Rantai, Lyby, Rolled, Wojjan, 0_o.
If animask turns out to be mafia, odds of one of the above 5 people being mafia? Not that great imo (though possible, especially because of what faceman made public towards the end of LEM 1)
I definitely can't find anybody that appears scummier than animask at the moment, however the amount of people on his case is alarming to me. If animask is indeed mafia, then it's most likely his partner is either Kiddo or Mashley OR Rantai. Personally, I think it's more likely that one, if not both mafia members are present in the group attacking him.
Rolled, gunning for mafia in a day one lynch (on animask no less, but let's not get too ingrained with metagaming here) is not exactly a guarantee. Even if animask flips town, that's no reason to start specifically looking for those that have attacked him. It's a day one lynch, and usually those get accompanied by a superfluous bandwagon.
And the opposite works just as well. There's no reason for those three to be animask's partner because they haven't attacked him yet. Odds are, and especially looking at who you've picked, that they just didn't check the thread yet, so painting them scum because they didn't follow you in bashing on animask if he flips scum is a mistake I wouldn't expect to see coming from you.
And the opposite works just as well. There's no reason for those three to be animask's partner because they haven't attacked him yet. Odds are, and especially looking at who you've picked, that they just didn't check the thread yet, so painting them scum because they didn't follow you in bashing on animask if he flips scum is a mistake I wouldn't expect to see coming from you.
Hey, I'm not taking credit for animask bashing
And truthfully, the mafia games I've been in so far (granted, like only 2?) have not had such a heavy D1 bandwagon and it's definitely alarming to me.
And I never attempted to paint any of those three players as scum. In fact, based on my gut feeling I have right now, I'm thinking the opposite. Despite the terrible job animask is doing defending himself (I see scumtells in all of his posts pretty much), gut feeling and meta-playstyling leads me to believe that he is town.
And the main reason I believe he is town is because he has five people on his case right now, and most likely more to come once the other people visit the thread.
Right now, as I've said, the amount of people that have jumped down animask's throat in such a short amount of time is outweighing animask's scummy behavior in my eyes. Perhaps this is backwards logic, but I can't fight this feeeeeeeeling anyyymooore~
And truthfully, the mafia games I've been in so far (granted, like only 2?) have not had such a heavy D1 bandwagon and it's definitely alarming to me.
And I never attempted to paint any of those three players as scum. In fact, based on my gut feeling I have right now, I'm thinking the opposite. Despite the terrible job animask is doing defending himself (I see scumtells in all of his posts pretty much), gut feeling and meta-playstyling leads me to believe that he is town.
And the main reason I believe he is town is because he has five people on his case right now, and most likely more to come once the other people visit the thread.
Right now, as I've said, the amount of people that have jumped down animask's throat in such a short amount of time is outweighing animask's scummy behavior in my eyes. Perhaps this is backwards logic, but I can't fight this feeeeeeeeling anyyymooore~
Also, scumpaint me fucking moar.
so painting them scum because they didn't follow you in bashing
a mistake I wouldn't expect to see coming from you.
Yeah, I guess I tend to show a lot of scum tells when I'm pressured (even if I'm not mafia).
I'll roleclaim before the final vote for hammer if you want me to...
I'm actually pretty useful at night.
I'll roleclaim before the final vote for hammer if you want me to...
I'm actually pretty useful at night.
Because that's what people do, right?animask wrote:
I'm not trying to be suspicious on purpose.
Sorry, I was away all day.
Unvote for now. Things are getting a bit heated and there might be a strong reason brought up to vote for someone.
Unvote for now. Things are getting a bit heated and there might be a strong reason brought up to vote for someone.
Kiddo-Kun wrote:
Sorry, I was away all day.
Unvote for now. Things are getting a bit heated and there might be a strong reason brought up to vote for someone.
So rather than form your own opinion you're going to unvote until someone else brings up a good point and then bandwagon? I don't understand the logic here.
Someone might say something, leading me to bring up a good point. I never said anything about joining a bandwagon.foulcoon wrote:
Kiddo-Kun wrote:
Sorry, I was away all day.
Unvote for now. Things are getting a bit heated and there might be a strong reason brought up to vote for someone.
So rather than form your own opinion you're going to unvote until someone else brings up a good point and then bandwagon? I don't understand the logic here.
That doesn't really look like what you meant, but thats about the extent to which I'll argue with you about it. You don't seem all that suspicious to me, but then again you're not really contributing much.
i like you foulcoon
i love you too Rolled
boom de yada boom de yada
Goood afternoon
I don't believe using meta to form serious accusations is the right way to go to be honest.
As I see it right now, Lybydose FoS'd animask to start up a conversation (or is it because animask RV'd him?) and animask is doing a fairly bad job at defending himself (I believe this to be more incompetence than actually being scum right now).
But I'm more interested in this:
Interesting you didn't start drawing attention to your vote (or post at all for that matter) until after someone else started looking animask's way. It kind of feels like you're trying to convert an RV (maybe not quite an RV but something similar which I do not have a name for at this time) into a legitimate vote under the guise of "I was on him all along".
How to explain, like one of those people who feel the need to constantly prove their innocence because they don't want to be suspected. Of course you aren't proving your innocence in this case but I hope my thought process makes it across.
Long story short: foulcoon irked me slightly, animask is incompetent, everyone else is within the bounds of normality as far as I observe it.
I don't believe using meta to form serious accusations is the right way to go to be honest.
As I see it right now, Lybydose FoS'd animask to start up a conversation (or is it because animask RV'd him?) and animask is doing a fairly bad job at defending himself (I believe this to be more incompetence than actually being scum right now).
But I'm more interested in this:
Having slight difficulty wording my thoughts*foulcoon wrote:
So I take it nobody saw my post on day 2 where I actually voted for animask for the same exact reason. I guess you can FoS Lyby for being the 2nd on the "bandwagon" though lol. My vote never was an RV, it was a lame meta-gaming vote.
Interesting you didn't start drawing attention to your vote (or post at all for that matter) until after someone else started looking animask's way. It kind of feels like you're trying to convert an RV (maybe not quite an RV but something similar which I do not have a name for at this time) into a legitimate vote under the guise of "I was on him all along".
How to explain, like one of those people who feel the need to constantly prove their innocence because they don't want to be suspected. Of course you aren't proving your innocence in this case but I hope my thought process makes it across.
Long story short: foulcoon irked me slightly, animask is incompetent, everyone else is within the bounds of normality as far as I observe it.
There is so much wrong with this post.
mod: can we get a votecount in here? I lost track who exactly is still voting animask
I don't believe using meta to form serious accusations is the right way to go to be honest.Have you reread fully? If something seems out of line with someone's behavior on day one, it's about everything you can get at that point. If you notice anything it's worth pursuing. By the way, I don't think anyone is sticking on animask for his cautious behavior more than his piss poor reaction regarding Lyby's accusation.
As I see it right now, Lybydose FoS'd animask to start up a conversation (or is it because animask RV'd him?) and animask is doing a fairly bad job at defending himself (I believe this to be more incompetence than actually being scum right now).Lybydose didn't FoS animask to incite conversation, he did that because something was genuinely off. He probably wanted to see how animask would defend himself, and seeing who would follow his tracks and who would defend him was part of that.
Interesting you didn't start drawing attention to your vote (or post at all for that matter) until after someone else started looking animask's way.Normally people don't need to draw attention to anything. Everybody posts under the assumption that their post gets read, there's no need to say "Hey guys, that post back on the page before? Read it again because I think you didn't." Or at least, there shouldn't be a reason to unless it's been proven that people didn't read the post. Nothing is wrong with foulcoon's reaction.
It kind of feels like you're trying to convert an RV [...] into a legitimate vote under the guise of "I was on him all along".if foulcoon stated a reasoning for voting animask, it's not a random vote. That vote was as legitimate as a Day 1 lynch can get.
How to explain, like one of those people who feel the need to constantly prove their innocence because they don't want to be suspected. Of course you aren't proving your innocence in this case but I hope my thought process makes it across.What you wrote here probably isn't what you want to get across, since it fits more with animask's and your behavior. animask's reaction to Lyby's accusation was FoSsing him right back, softclaiming an aux role, trying desperately to get attention off him and even lamenting the fact that people are voting him. Your posts so far have been mostly filler, agreeing with people and stating the obvious in particular standing out to me, and when you make one post to gather your thoughts you discredit Lyby's FoS as breaking the ice, call animask incompetent townie twice, ignore Rolled altogether and focus on foulcoon with a reason riddled with holes.
mod: can we get a votecount in here? I lost track who exactly is still voting animask
Topic Starter
Possibly right votecount:
animask (3) - foul, Wojjan, Lyby
Lyby (1) - 0_o
Kiddo (1) - Mashley
No Lynch (1) - Rantai
animask (3) - foul, Wojjan, Lyby
Lyby (1) - 0_o
Kiddo (1) - Mashley
No Lynch (1) - Rantai
That was me voicing my opinion on meta regardless if it was right or wrong. I agree with you on animask's poor defense.Wojjan wrote:
Have you reread fully? If something seems out of line with someone's behavior on day one, it's about everything you can get at that point. If you notice anything it's worth pursuing. By the way, I don't think anyone is sticking on animask for his cautious behavior more than his piss poor reaction regarding Lyby's accusation.
He says that later but it may have just started as something as simple as that (remember this is only guessing), it might well have been a mix of both for all I know. Conversation was dry and nothing had happened then poof. Either way I'm not too concerned about it, they were just initial observations as interpreted by me.Wojjan wrote:
Lybydose didn't FoS animask to incite conversation, he did that because something was genuinely off. He probably wanted to see how animask would defend himself, and seeing who would follow his tracks and who would defend him was part of that.
I'd like to know where it was proven that no one read it. Otherwise, as you say, there is no reason for him to say; "Hey guys, that post back on the page before? Read it again because I think you didn't." - in your words.Wojjan wrote:
Normally people don't need to draw attention to anything. Everybody posts under the assumption that their post gets read, there's no need to say "Hey guys, that post back on the page before? Read it again because I think you didn't." Or at least, there shouldn't be a reason to unless it's been proven that people didn't read the post. Nothing is wrong with foulcoon's reaction.
Taking me as an example, I was well aware of his vote. But because it was at the start of the game it felt like nothing more than a random vote (yes, yes it wasn't random, but it had a similar weight to me).
In Lybydose's case, my intention was not to discredit his FoS (if it looks like that then I only have myself to blame for it) as 'breaking the ice'. As for Rolled, I don't have an opinion on his posts so far.Wojjan wrote:
What you wrote here probably isn't what you want to get across, since it fits more with animask's and your behavior. animask's reaction to Lyby's accusation was FoSsing him right back, softclaiming an aux role, trying desperately to get attention off him and even lamenting the fact that people are voting him. Your posts so far have been mostly filler, agreeing with people and stating the obvious in particular standing out to me, and when you make one post to gather your thoughts you discredit Lyby's FoS as breaking the ice, call animask incompetent townie twice, ignore Rolled altogether and focus on foulcoon with a reason riddled with holes.
The only 'hole' that you pointed out in relation to foulcoon, was it was proven that foulcoon's initial vote was ignored which I am contesting right now.
Uhhh missed a quote >.<
I'm more irked that he is trying to make it look like his vote had the exact same reasoning as Lybydose which is quite impossible. As far as I understand it, his vote was based on the fact that animask is always suspicious in each game he plays. Lybydose's was based on the fact that animask was laying low and saying somewhat scummy things.
So here, both are based on animask's meta. But one is drawing entirely from other games while the other is drawing from both other games and this current one.
Ok legitimise was not the right word for that. Allow me to retry explaining what I mean.Wojjan wrote:
if foulcoon stated a reasoning for voting animask, it's not a random vote. That vote was as legitimate as a Day 1 lynch can get.
I'm more irked that he is trying to make it look like his vote had the exact same reasoning as Lybydose which is quite impossible. As far as I understand it, his vote was based on the fact that animask is always suspicious in each game he plays. Lybydose's was based on the fact that animask was laying low and saying somewhat scummy things.
So here, both are based on animask's meta. But one is drawing entirely from other games while the other is drawing from both other games and this current one.
Was mainly pointing it out to Rolled who was saying Lyby was on to something. Btw at your last post: are you assuming I can't read animasks posts this game? I was basing my vote off of meta but its not far off from Lyby's. Maybe because I posted it in a sea of RV's it was overlooked. That is the only reason I mentioned it.Rantai wrote:
Uhhh missed a quote >.<Ok legitimise was not the right word for that. Allow me to retry explaining what I mean.Wojjan wrote:
if foulcoon stated a reasoning for voting animask, it's not a random vote. That vote was as legitimate as a Day 1 lynch can get.
I'm more irked that he is trying to make it look like his vote had the exact same reasoning as Lybydose which is quite impossible. As far as I understand it, his vote was based on the fact that animask is always suspicious in each game he plays. Lybydose's was based on the fact that animask was laying low and saying somewhat scummy things.
So here, both are based on animask's meta. But one is drawing entirely from other games while the other is drawing from both other games and this current one.
Btw at your last post: are you assuming I can't read animasks posts this game?No. I believe you are perfectly capable of reading animask's posts.
Was mainly pointing it out to Rolled who was saying Lyby was on to something.
I was basing my vote off of meta but its not far off from Lyby'sLybydose was on to something, for sure but it wasn't what you were saying. As I said, you were just pointing fingers because of how animask played before. Lybydose was onto the fact that animask was playing differently to how he used to play. What gets me is you're trying to say that your initial vote took into account that animask is playing more cautiously.
SPOILER
So I take it nobody saw my post on day 2 where I actually voted for animask for the same exact reason.For reference
Okay I'll let you win because the point you're making doesn't seem all that relevant. So by a stipulation my reason for voting isn't exactly the same as someone elses? I don't think it makes a big difference. It just seems like an attempt to call attention to me for absolutely no reason.
P.S. - I love LS's confidence in the vote count lol
P.S. - I love LS's confidence in the vote count lol
I'd agree that this being the first game ever where animask is 'not trying to be suspicious' is quite odd and I'd be more comfortable lynching him than any other player if deadline was soo- wait, shit, it's tomorrow. Unvote, vote animask
animask: Why have you decided for this game not to try your usual tricks? Have you finally seen sense or is it something else?
I know I vote for animask day 1 in literally every game I've played with him, but, well, he's just always suspicious. This time differently suspicious, which makes him even more suspicious.
animask: Why have you decided for this game not to try your usual tricks? Have you finally seen sense or is it something else?
I know I vote for animask day 1 in literally every game I've played with him, but, well, he's just always suspicious. This time differently suspicious, which makes him even more suspicious.
animask is the only one I'd feel comfortable lynching at this point as well. Nothing on the last page really stuck out at me, so I think finding out animask's role then going from there is our best move right now.
animask: if you're gonna roleclaim, now's the time to do it.
animask: if you're gonna roleclaim, now's the time to do it.
Roleclaim: Bulletproof Serial Killer
If you guys are going hammer me I'm just going to resign... unless that isn't allowed.
(You ruined my first serial killer role and I hate you.)
/quit
If you guys are going hammer me I'm just going to resign... unless that isn't allowed.
(You ruined my first serial killer role and I hate you.)
/quit
...well then.
vote animask
vote animask
Vote: animask
You haven't done anything to help prove your innocence. You are the only one that seems really off.
You haven't done anything to help prove your innocence. You are the only one that seems really off.
Well he wasn't mafia but he also wasn't town. Can I still have that medal?
*gives foulcoon a medal*foulcoon wrote:
Well he wasn't mafia but he also wasn't town. Can I still have that medal?
It would be funny if getting lynched on Day 1 got me my win condition...
foulcoon wrote:
Well he wasn't mafia but he also wasn't town. Can I still have that medal?
If that is your win condition I"m going to rage. LadySuburu should have taken into account that you're animask.animask wrote:
*gives foulcoon a medal*foulcoon wrote:
Well he wasn't mafia but he also wasn't town. Can I still have that medal?
It would be funny if getting lynched on Day 1 got me my win condition...
So, the roleclaim is just an "I quit" ordeal right? I've never played with serial killers... but pretty sure claiming that would not save yourself from being lynched?
Just confused as to why you roleclaimed lol. But yeah, Vote: animask
ps: I'm wrong again
Just confused as to why you roleclaimed lol. But yeah, Vote: animask
ps: I'm wrong again
Oh wait what I wasn't really wrong. Mafia could still have been ganging on him knowing he wasn't aligned with them. I'm right ^___^
He actually wasn't pro-town though so I'm kind of wrong~
Sry been awake 26 hours.
He actually wasn't pro-town though so I'm kind of wrong~
Sry been awake 26 hours.
I claimed because I obviously give up... also, its too much work to think of a cover. I could've said Bulletproof Doctor and pretend that I'm
getting constantly roleblocked but idk how the Bulletproof thing works.
getting constantly roleblocked but idk how the Bulletproof thing works.
Oh wow animask, just wow.
Unvote - Vote: animask
Unvote - Vote: animask
Vote: animask
Maybe I win by voting for myself?
Maybe I win by voting for myself?