If you want in as a replacement, PM me.

This is a game within a game. Each Mind game mafia will have one or two hidden win conditions, which when triggered will end the game with a win for those who triggered it. The roles will vary between being normal, or being specifically setup for the win condition.

Less experimental mafia 2 will be hosted once Host's poison ends, or if I get enough requests for #2 before then.


New note: As people seem to be confused about this. If a player has a majority of people voting him at any point, the day ends with a lynch automatically.

Note 2: Roleplaying makes it a bit harder in mafia, please don't. I will roleplay the day's lynching for you. If you have a specific death in mind for when you're lynched, PM me. I might go with it.

Note 3: Please take this game seriously. It's hard for it to be played properly if you don't.

Final Note: http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page this wiki is from a typo dedicated to hosting mafia games. If you have questions about mafia play, the wiki here can help.

Final Note 2: There are no "items" or simmilar purposes. There are no notes you can send after death. If your role doesn't say it's an ability that you can do, you can't do it. Other than role abilities, you can talk in this thread and you can vote.

If you want to play, post here with /in. We'll start when we have 9. Please read the rules.

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What's going on?

Attempt 1

You and 8 others are gathered in a room. A very familiar sense of dread hangs in the air. "Hey you guys, kinda just go and lynch each other in the day. Someone will likely die in the night after that. Some of you are evil we know but we could care less. We'll clean up the bodies when you're done.

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Status: Somewhere between signups and over.

.::] Alive [::.
2. Mashley
3. Wojjan
5. foulcoon
6. Rolled
7. 0_o
8. Kiddo-Kun
9. Rantai




Replacement Spots - Will be used if needed.
A. Two
B. Quar
C. pieguy1372
D.

.::] Dead [::.
1. animask - Ordinary Townie (Lynched D1)
10. No Lynch - Not lynched (D2)
4. Lybydose - Suicided (N2)

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.::] The Setup [::.


It consists of any combination of roles the mod chooses, sometimes having to do with the hidden win condition.

Every player in this game will have received a Role PM. They will look like something.

All roles are either on the mafiascum wiki, or mentioned in the previous games. If for some reason your role isn't, consider yourself lucky or blind, and then PM me for an explanation.

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.::] Rules [::.
General

1. Unless otherwise stated in your Role PM, this game takes place in this thread only - do not discuss it anywhere else. Doing so will get you modkilled or immediately replaced, depending on the severity of the offence. (This is important for mafia games.)

2. Do not quote any PM, part or whole, you receive from the Mod. This includes fake or erroneous quoting. Breaking this rule will get you modkilled. However, you may claim any role you please, and explain the powers in any way you please.

3. If you believe I've made an error as the mod, send me a PM. Please do not post about such things in the thread. If you have anything else you need me to read or address, post something like this - "Mod: You're the best."

4. A player who is modkilled will lose the game, regardless of whether their team mates eventually win.

5. Omitted.

Voting, Lynching and Deaths

6. Any voting action must be bolded - Vote: destructor, etc.

7. You may vote to end the day without a lynch by voting No Lynch.

8. Voting is back to the normal system.

9. A lynch occurs when a player has an absolute majority of votes on them.

10. At deadline, the player with the most votes is lynched. In the event of a draw, the player who had the most votes before being tied will be lynched.

11. Once a lynch occurs the Day is considered to be over. Please, please, PLEASE do not post again until the next Day begins, especially if you are the player who was just lynched. (I accept talking beforehand as long as I haven't posted the lynch scene yet.)

12. On death, a player's role will be revealed.

13. A modkill may end the day, depending on the host's decision.

14. Once a player is dead, they cannot contribute any more to the game. They are not to post anything. (I'll accept a simple Bah! or Go Town!)

Activity

15. Please treat this game as a commitment.

16. Day one has a length of 5 IRL days. Each consecutive day's deadline is cut short by a day, unless a No Lynch is called for or the host sees signifigant activity. There are only a few reasons why I would extend one (such as replacing players).

17. If a player has not posted in 24 hours, I will prod them if requested to do so. That is, it's up to you to ask me to prod a certain player.

17b. Don't make me prod someone. As in, post once every 24 hours. If you have nothing to say, say "I'm here." I will be much more strict with prods than normal.

18. Prods must be responded to in thread.

19. A player who doesn't respond to their prod will be replaced or modkilled.

20. If you are going to be unable to post for over 24 hours, leave me a note in thread. As long as I am personally given notice, you will not be prodded.

Conduct

21. Be courteous and respectful to your fellow players.

22. Blatantly antisocial and offensive behaviour or personal attacks will be grounds for replacement at my own discretion.

23. Finally, Mafia is for fun, so enjoy yourself.

24. If you've noticed I've missed something, feel free to ask me about it.

25. I reserve the right to change these rules.

I <3 you LadySuburu You make the best mafia scum games ever~

/joining

/in yes please

animask doesn't count he did not say /in

/in

ok

/in

/in

I need to fucking redeem myself. last 2 games i played like balls.

/in

I told myself I would take a break from these.

I am also weak.

/in

Sounds like fun.
Count me /in.

I will replace if you want

Mind games?

/in

let's do this thang

confirm

confirmeddddd

confirmed~ ^_^

Off-Topic: Those interested in suggesting which of my future mafia game ideas I use, should see the General Mafia thread in the General Discussion forum.

Confirm

Confurmed.

Confirmed.

Only two more need to confirm, so we'll start now.

6 days.

With 9 alive it's 5 to lynch.

Random.org gives...4!

...really Random.org, really??

Let's go with int(rand(9)) then.

vote: Rantai

No sense letting a perfectly good random number go to waste.

vote Lybydose

@0_o, 4 was Lyb... you wouldn't vote for yourself, would you?

animask wrote:

@0_o, 4 was Lyb... you wouldn't vote for yourself, would you?

that was his point.. he used the random number that Lyby didn't...

In case you all aren't familiar with faceman's meta, that will be his first and only vote for this game.

Rolled wrote:

In case you all aren't familiar with faceman's meta, that will be his first and only vote for this game.

Nah I'm quite familiar with his meta

Rolled wrote:

In case you all aren't familiar with faceman's meta, that will be his first and only vote for this game.

oh you

I was exaggerating a bit when I was talking about my indecisiveness in the last game, I actually do usually make a judgement call and get a vote in by the end of the day. I was just banking on nobody actually taking the time to look through my other games to catch that

vote: animask

he always says some suspicious shit and then never gets killed because people think hes just dumb, and he didnt say "why am i always town" or whatever

if hes mafia i deserve a medal

Vote: 0_o

Randomly selected.

Oh we're starting already?
Vote Kiddo-kun because who the heck is kiddo-kun

Vote: Wojjan You scare me.

Side note: Screw meta

Vote: Wojjan

what he said

At this point I can vote for anyone, right? I vote for...

Vote: Lybydose

... because I don't know you very well.

are these rvs done yet?

You don't just decide to end RVS.

You just gotta let it happen, man~

*automatic message*

Alright sorry guys, going to a friend's cottage for the weekend so I won't have internet for approximately 48 hours.

Don't do anything stupid while I'm gone <3

*beeeep*

So who wants to be the random lynch? any jesters in the house?

Okay, random overused conversation starter:

What faction does everybody prefer to be sided with? Don't forget to say why ^_^

I like being pro-town, preferably vanilla. I feel I play the best when there's no real pressure to make game-changing decisions. It also makes me feel like I have less to lose, so I'm not really afraid to point fingers at anybody I see with an ounce of suspicion. I don't think I've been lynched as pro-town yet, no big deal~

The play by Rolled seems familiar...

I still prefer a vanilla townie role, because in case you get lynched you aren't too important anyways. I'm starting to learn
that any role that gives the most freedom is the best role. So far I have played a mason role a few times and I think mason
roles are fun too. I like being a townie or a mason (or a townie mason).

Also, everyone should keep posting things because your hidden win condition could be based on something you post.

Rolled wrote:

What faction does everybody prefer to be sided with? Don't forget to say why ^_^

Independant, Mafia and Town are too mainstream.

Rolled wrote:

Okay, random overused conversation starter:

What faction does everybody prefer to be sided with? Don't forget to say why ^_^

Now that I've played all three alignments I can say I don't have a clear favourite, they're all fun.

If I had to choose though, I'd say an independent role because there's no pressure in doing things wrong or right. My decisions won't affect the rest of my team.

I haven't played in a Mafia before. But going on your own sounds fun. No pressure.

Just a friendly reminder that if the players don't post often enough I will cut the deadline shorter. I haven't ever had to do this before, but I certainly will if there's not enough talking.

Non-Mafia

Mafia is annoying because I have to carefully reread everything I type to make sure I didn't slip something up somewhere. It gets even more annoying later in the game because if I tell a lie about anything at any point, I have to go back and make sure I'm consistent with that lie. Furthermore, I don't like coming up with fake reasons for why I think people are mafia when I know that they aren't. It's more difficult to act "natural" as mafia than as town, and I always second guess everything.

On the other hand, I like being able to privately communicate with people I know are the same alignment to run things by them and get 2nd opinions. Though I've never drawn a mason or cult role, I would probably prefer either of those over other roles.

unvote

fuck you too Rolled

I'm baaaack.

Rolled wrote:

What faction does everybody prefer to be sided with? Don't forget to say why ^_^

I was asked this in an earlier game, but since then I have been mafia (twice), independent and a crazy super aux so my opinion has changed a bit since then

I enjoy playing any role, but I'm going to say I like Independent the most, specifically serial killer. Granted I've only been an SK once, and it was the game where almost EVERYONE was, but I loved the feeling of being a "lone wolf". I can honestly search for mafia by day (when I was mafia I found it quite stressful having to think of reasons that someone is guilty when I know they aren't), and be free to gun for whoever I wanted by night.

But painting guilt as mafia is half the fun imo.

I wonder how these hidden conditions work. Let's say a condition was: Roleblock someone who has targeted you for death.

If we had a jailkeeper, mafia roleblocker, SK and mafia goon - The JK blocked goon and the Roleblocker blocked the SK would both players/parties win?

Rantai wrote:

But painting guilt as mafia is half the fun imo.

I wonder how these hidden conditions work. Let's say a condition was: Roleblock someone who has targeted you for death.

If we had a jailkeeper, mafia roleblocker, SK and mafia goon - The JK blocked goon and the Roleblocker blocked the SK would both players/parties win?

If multiple players trigger a hidden condition at the same time, they will all win. Theoretically, in certain of these games it will be possible for every single player in the game to win. However, when that is the case, it will likely be extremely difficult.

Rantai wrote:

But painting guilt as mafia is half the fun imo.

Well it was, but at the same time I just found it a lot more difficult than I thought I would, in the last game at least. I did have an easier time in TF2 mafia, but seeing as it was barely active it really didn't take a whole lot of evidence to incriminate someone anyway. Maybe it was just the fact that we were in trouble from the beginning and I didn't have a reliable partner to communicate and discuss things with, but overall my experience as mafia just hasn't been amazing so far.

Hmm kk.

Unvote, Vote: No lynch

This gives everyone a chance at hitting the hidden winning condition, I am highly curious to see where things will end up.

@0_o - Yeah I know, I was just teasing

That and nothing is happening so I can't exactly make an informed choice.

FoS animask

He's being a lot more cautious than usual it seems. Usually by this point he would have said something really stupid that makes everyone suspicious of him, and then, due to his meta of being incredibly suspicious as a townie all the time, everyone would realize that he is in fact probably town and not lynch him.

Anyway, it's the complete opposite this game.

Well except this

animask wrote:

At this point I can vote for anyone, right?

That's a somewhat scummy remark, but not a blatantly scummy one.

My favorite role would have to be any pro-town aux. This is actually the role that I've held most through all my werewolf and mafia games. I like having a powerful role, but still being able to enjoy the game and not have to focus too much time on painting others as scum. I guess this would exclude a guardian angel type role, it seems like a lot of pressure and role-claiming guardian angel is just asking to be NK'd.

For the most part this conversation has gotten us nowhere and nobody is really talking. Leaving my vote on animask as is.

Nobody is really contributing anything to the game. Is this because there's too many games running at once or what? I don't really feel like checking because its late and I've been at work for a while now.

In short: Are the least active players in this game currently participating in another mafia-type forum game?

Double posting because I'm bored. I feel like there should be more people, I guess everyone has actually talked but the conversation seems so barren. I saw faceguy's post about leaving for 2 days and then I saw his obligatory "I'm back" post. I didn't think 2 days had actually passed but they had. I guess its understandable for people to want to lay low and not be the first one lynched, but realize if you don't post at all not only do people start to make assumptions, but you hurt the game as the day phase may be shortened by mod.

foulcoon wrote:

In short: Are the least active players in this game currently participating in another mafia-type forum game?

1 concurrent mafia game that I can see so far;

Of those in this game:

Mashley
0_o
animask

So I don't suspect an overload in games.

I'm not in any other mafia games, at least not currently.

There really hasn't been anything valuable so far in this game to go off of. It's been a wave of RVs, and then a few people answering my irrelevant question. Usually by now animask somebody has done something mildly suspicious, enough to at least justify a vote from a few people.

That said, Lyby makes a good point.

@Rantai, nolynch never beneficial to town etc etc etc. I think the best way to deal with the hidden win conditions are to ignore them. If you stumble upon it, sweet. Once people start prioritizing the hidden conditions over the known conditions is when people'll make mistakes.

True, pursuing a non-serious goal out of curiosity will detract from the game.

However, at this stage, I've got nothing to go on and it isn't the majority vote so I'll leave it for now.

Needs more talking around here.

I'm not really being cautious. There just really isn't any conversation going on.

@Lyb, I was just referring to that part of the game where people make random votes for no reason. I recall this
being a temporary phase for Day 1 and once discussions starts, I'll be able to unvote and find someone who is actually
suspicious. I'm not as suspicious, because I'm actually trying to do better at this game. I'm not trying to be suspicious
on purpose.

If you really want to do some meta-gaming, in the last Less Experimental Mafia (LEM?), I said I would try to be less suspicious.
It didn't start with this game.

@Rolled, I believe that no-lynch isn't that good based on your reasoning (I feel like I've said this before...)

@Rantai, win conditions could be anything and not just from the use of a role. I've said that one of the win conditions
could be something you post. I'm assuming the win conditions are really diverse rather than really similar.

unvote

FoS Lyb

Reason: Using meta-gaming and a very small scum tell to add suspicion on me.

Meta is a very important part of this game to me, and clearly many other people. Granted, it's the complete opposite for other people, but not enough to discredit the logic entirely.

Also, information on day 1 is slim. If you happen to find something that doesn't seem right, you should definitely pursue it.

Seems like an OMGUS FoS.

So I take it nobody saw my post on day 2 where I actually voted for animask for the same exact reason. I guess you can FoS Lyby for being the 2nd on the "bandwagon" though lol. My vote never was an RV, it was a lame meta-gaming vote.

@Rolled, I use meta-gaming, but I weigh it very small compared to other things (tells, behavior, etc.) I'm also feeling suspicious
of Lyb because of his unknown playstyle. In other words, I thought Lyb's reasoning was kind of weak. Also, it wasn't a OMGUS FoS. I just
thought he was trying too hard to find small suspicions in order to frame me because I'm usually the suspicious one. Meta-gaming towards my
previous behavior just makes me easy picking.

@foulcoon, oh, I thought your vote was just a weak meta-gaming RV. It makes sense because there was nothing to
use yet.