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0_o
And did we all forget Mashley's lie detection?
0_o
mod: If a serial killer sends a nightkill PM and then gets cured, does the nightkill still work?

If so then Q, take out Wojjan since we can't lynch him without one of us blowing up.
Two_old
0_o can you tell me who is confirmed as town and why they are confirmed? I've been half assing this game.

Also, trying to tell Quaraezha to kill Wojjan is dumb. It actually makes me think you're mafia so I'm especially interested in why you are confirmed town.
Topic Starter
LadySuburu

0_o wrote:

mod: If a serial killer sends a nightkill PM and then gets cured, does the nightkill still work?

If so then Q, take out Wojjan since we can't lynch him without one of us blowing up.
Yes.
adam2046
You guys are hilarious.
I am a tree stump.
0_o
Making a big post but I gotta go, be back in a few hours.
Wojjan
mod: if anymask were to die in an unfortunate accident or otherwise lose his ability overnight (jailed, roleblocked, culted etc.) would his psychiatry still go through?
Topic Starter
LadySuburu

Wojjan wrote:

mod: if anymask were to die in an unfortunate accident or otherwise lose his ability overnight (jailed, roleblocked, culted etc.) would his psychiatry still go through?
Jailed / Roleblocked? No.

Culted? Potentially.

Killed? Yes.
0_o

Two wrote:

0_o can you tell me who is confirmed as town and why they are confirmed? I've been half assing this game.
I'll just list everyone's status:

0_o
Claim: Pro-town Day Cop, Reverend
Actions & Results:
-Investigated Lyby, NoHItter (no results), adam 1, Ph0X
None of these results have been mod confirmed since all but Ph0X have died without results.

Mashley
Claim: Pro-town Forensic Investigator, Lie Detector
Actions & Results:
-Was silenced D3
-Forensic Investigation results: NoHItter targetted by rust and animask D1, adam 1 targetted Mashley D3 (presumably a silence)
-Lie Detection results: Wojjan is the bomb, animask is town, Q is pro-town = true & false, adam2's "Are we lynching me again? By the way, I'm definitely town this time." = mostly false
Results have been consistently confirmed accurate, so likely pro-town though he could still be a third party.

Wojjan
Claim: Neutral Bomb
Win condition unknown
Actions & Results:
-Found gun & killed Lilac out of spite

rust45
Claim: None (I think)
Actions & Results
-Targetted NoHItter N1, specific action unknown

Quaraezha
Claim: Neutral 50% Serial Killer
Win Condition: Alive at the end; sole survivor = double win
Actions & Results:
-No actions N1&2, kill failed N3

Two
CONFIRMED ROLE: Cult Member, One-Shot Role Cop
Win Condition: Last man standing
Actions & Results:
-Killed N1, Revived D2
-Used investigation N1, results still unknown

Ph0X
Claim: None
Actions & Results
-Mysteriously added to the game D3
Turned up neutral in my D4 investigation

animask
CONFIRMED ROLE: Pro-town Doctor / Deprogrammer / Psychiatrist / Mafia Daychat Enabler
Actions & Results
-Killed N2, Revived D3
-Actions unknown

adam2046 (2)
Claim: Pro-town Tree Stump
Actions & Results
-Split from adam 1 D3
-Confirmed to have been turned into wood, possible tree stump.
Mashley's lie detection seems to imply that he is not pro-town.

Now it IS possible that there have been some cult recruitments or deprograms that we don't know about, so we can't be 100% sure that even the confirmed players still have their original alignments.

Also, trying to tell Quaraezha to kill Wojjan is dumb. It actually makes me think you're mafia so I'm especially interested in why you are confirmed town.
I just figured if he was gonna be cured we might as well get some use out of him. He's effectively pro-town now, and since Wojjan is a neutral bomb, the only way to get rid of him without taking a casualty is to nightkill him.

Also, seeing as Mashley and I haven't been roleblocked yet I am fairly confident that there is no anti-town roleblocker left in this game. There is one thing that I have been assuming though that I should probably verify:
@animask: How many of your abilities can you use per night?
0_o
Also, has Two been deprogrammed yet? (@animask or Two)
0_o
Bleh I hate not editing posts >_>

mod: If a tree stump gets enough votes to hammer, does the day end without a lynch or does nothing happen?
Topic Starter
LadySuburu

0_o wrote:

Bleh I hate not editing posts >_>

mod: If a tree stump gets enough votes to hammer, does the day end without a lynch or does nothing happen?
I've decided that if an unlynchable is attempted to be lynched, that the day will only end without a lynch if it's at deadline.

If a revival-based "unlynchable" is attempted to be lynched, the day will end regardless.

Other situations if any, I haven't really decided on yet.
0_o

LadySuburu wrote:

0_o wrote:

Bleh I hate not editing posts >_>

mod: If a tree stump gets enough votes to hammer, does the day end without a lynch or does nothing happen?
I've decided that if an unlynchable is attempted to be lynched, that the day will only end without a lynch if it's at deadline.

If a revival-based "unlynchable" is attempted to be lynched, the day will end regardless.

Other situations if any, I haven't really decided on yet.
OK, so that means that if adam really is a tree stump then we can get enough votes on him to hammer, and if nothing happens then we can vote for someone else.

Sound good to everyone?

Besides adam.
rust45
It would just be a waste of time.
Two_old
why would it be a waste of time? nice contribution, wish I was a vigilante

nice use of colors btw 0_o
0_o
Waaaait a sec.

I vote adam
Two votes adam
Q votes adam
Mashley votes adam
animask votes adam
animask unvoted in the next post, but that was 5/9 votes right there. LS, did you catch that?
adam2046
8-)
Sleep Powder
*sigh* I should've checked how many votes there were before actually voting.

Let's find out if he's... nah, hes probably a tree stump.

Can we revote if he turns out to be a stump for Day 4?
Sleep Powder
*sigh* I should've checked how many votes there were before actually voting.

Let's find out if he's... nah, hes probably a tree stump.

Can we revote if he turns out to be a stump for Day 4?
Two_old

animask wrote:

Can we revote if he turns out to be a stump for Day 4?
I've decided that if an unlynchable is attempted to be lynched, that the day will only end without a lynch if it's at deadline
6 posts above you man, read
Wojjan
well if we can do that we might as well see for ourselves

vote: adam. the right one. stump adam
0_o
OK he's hammered now, so while we're waiting, who are we going with if adam turns up stumped? I'm thinking either rust or Ph0X, since everyone else has given me a reason not to lynch them. I'd feel a bit more comfortable with Ph0X since I know he's neutral, but what do you guys think? How does everyone feel about saving Q for animask?
Wojjan
animask said that his role has a chance of error. We don't want Q to suddenly get his own cult and still have a kill power or something equally ridiculous. And I wouldn't put it past LS to do this in this game.

If we have a role, and it kills things, it's a bad role to have around, and relying on the successful execution of one player's night action in the craziest damn game ever is one of the dumbest, least sensical gambits to make, especially on day 4.
0_o

Wojjan wrote:

animask said that his role has a chance of error.
Hmm I didn't see that post, could you link me to it?
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
Yeah, looks like adam was hammered.

Although, after a few hours of punching, kicking, and stabbing him, you're getting tired of it.
0_o
Well then.

unvote

Wojjan, what's your win condition?
Quaraezha
unvote adam

I can always not kill anyone, I did forget I even had the role in the first place.
If a killing role is that bad for town, I won't kill anyone.
Sleep Powder
I don't even remember talking about my role...

Did someone else say something?
Two_old
unvote, vote Quaraezha
Wojjan
Nevermind, the revive thing had the downsides to it. But just because psychiatry works doesn't mean it won't get blocked.
rust45
Given the uncertainty of the nights, I really don't think we can rely on animask's ability working. A Lynch seems to be the best option.
0_o
I would still like this question answered:

0_o wrote:

Also, has Two been deprogrammed yet? (@animask or Two)
0_o
And if you haven't animask, can you use your deprogrammer and psychiatry ability in the same night?

I have something to say but I would need these answers first.
0_o
Actually w/e, I'll post this anyway.

Regarding a chance of Q getting blocked, why would anyone block him? If you were a roleblocker who would you target: a lie detector, a day cop, or someone who is curing an independent serial killer? Nobody pro-town or anti-town should have any motivation to stop a psychiatrist.

Here's the thing. Not counting adam since he's effectively a dead player who can post, right now I know that at least 4/8 players are neutral, and with the possibility of a recruiting cult and a remaining mafia member, for all I know we could already be outnumbered. We need more confirmed townies to avoid a third party win, so I think keeping Q around tonight is worth the risk.
Two_old
If there was a recruiting cult (and there isn't to the best of my knowledge, lie detect this if you want), why would the existence of that matter? town would assimilate and win just the same
0_o

Two wrote:

If there was a recruiting cult (and there isn't to the best of my knowledge, lie detect this if you want), why would the existence of that matter? town would assimilate and win just the same
Cult wins when there's a majority, so anyone who isn't in the cult when that happens loses. And really, when you've been fighting the whole game for the town, even if you do end up assimilated I don't think a cult win would be as satisfying.
Two_old

0_o wrote:

Cult wins when there's a majority, so anyone who isn't in the cult when that happens loses. And really, when you've been fighting the whole game for the town, even if you do end up assimilated I don't think a cult win would be as satisfying.
They win when it's a majority because the rest of the town would have to assimilate, so if you really care about being declared a loser, think about it in the way that if it were to play out, you'd be on the winning team.

The second part of your post is woman logic and so I'm going to ignore that.
0_o
OK guys, lets all do nothing and join the cult so we can ALL WIN!
Two_old
why is it so hard to understand that a cult is actually a mason group that can recruit, with a bad reputation?

I really doubt that there is a cult secretly recruiting people though, since I know that I can't

just to be clear so we don't have some sort of circular argument that confuses animask: a cult existing is irrelevant until all mafia are confirmed dead, and a serial killer is pretty mafia
0_o
And I see what you're getting at, but I simply don't see the cult the same way you do. Probably no point in arguing any more about it though since I'm pretty sure none of us is gonna change our mind anyway.

When LS refunded my reverend ability, he added that my ability will now also stop cult recruitments. That's why I think there's still cult leader out there. Who, now that I think of it, would most likely be rust since it would be strange to have a cult leader added mid-game (Ph0X)
0_o
Also Two I'm not accusing you of being aware of this, I'm thinking it's more likely there's a second cult.

And actually given how the game has been going so far I suppose it wouldn't be that far fetched if Ph0X was a cult leader after all. So I dunno.

Anyone have any info on how exactly Ph0X got here?
adam2046
Stump cult who don't know each other.

Rust probably isn't in the cult. Has a town based role but could also have accidentally created a cult leader with another ability.
Animask probably is in the cult, but most likely isn't a leader. Do not count on him doing anything.
I am not 100% certain of any of this.

I was originally Pro-Town with the ability to give false lynch results to stop my own death or something (doesn't make much sense to me) and with the ability to turn all neutrals into independants.
I was turned into a stump a little while after I received my original role. Which is when Mashley got "mostly false".

Face should keep using his night kill block since all the mafia are dead and thus it should keep being refunded.
Ph0X, Qua and Wojjan are the most likely candidates for cult leader. I suggest a Ph0X lynch.
Two and animask are next likely candidates.
0_o, rust and Mashley are the absolute most unlikely to be in the cult unless they were turned during the day.
Stump cult leader hopefully isn't a stump...

I'm doing this all on whimsy and probably shouldn't be listened to, but also shouldn't be ignored.
adam2046
And the mafia all died (NoHItter wasn't mafia).
Two_old
what are you basing all of your rust assumptions off of?
adam2046
I know that he's used his ability today.
Two_old
well that tells us a lot
adam2046
Sure does.
Wojjan
vote: phox

since we obviously aren't lynching adam anytime soon.
Two_old
why are you voting ph0x when you were so gung-ho about lynching quaraezha?
0_o
4 Days ago

LaduSuburu wrote:

Day 4. 3 Days.
Whoops.

Requesting one more day so we can sort all this out.
rust45
Alright, I think it's time to claim: Mad Scientist
And my role entails be to be able to give a vial to a player if I wish altering their role in ways unknown. I don't learn about the role change, or even know if it happened. But I think adam is right about my changing someone to a cult leader (obviously on accident).

So far I've given out three vials, I shall list them in order:
NoHitter (Night 1)
Lilac (Day 2)
0_o (Night 3)

Now two of them are dead and if we want to go with the whole theory that I made the other cult, 0_o is the logical choice.
rust45
Oh shoot, I just realized that it couldn't be facebro as I gave him the vial last night, meaning he wouldn't be able to recruit (unless for some reason he was told in the night that he changed and he could recruit, but that seems odd) Couldn't this cult be related to the one that DxS? He was an Inquisitor.

Also, you may notice that I didn't give a vial today but adam said I used an ability today too, that's cause I'm also the Sleuth, I've been the one leaving notes around. And there wasn't a note on Day 3 because I didn't get a result when trying to investigate Wojjan.
adam2046
I was turned into a stump during the day.
0_o
Now we're getting somewhere.

Rust gave me the ability to cure SKs, but it's unknown whether it turns them into cult, neutral, or town. And since I can't use this ability and my investigations in the same day, it's not really worth using anyway.

vote Ph0X
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
Because one person requested it and because I'm sick, This game is being extended 2 days.
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
If Wojjan were a spy, he would say "I appear to have burst into flames!"

Wojjan is currently on fire.
Quaraezha
@_@
0_o
...and I can do that too now. I completely forgot about that part of the PM til I went back and checked it after posting :P

I also just realized that we aren't sure what the conditions of Wojjan's explosion is, so I reallllllly hope this isn't going to blow up in my face.

pun intended
Two_old
Maybe it's something RP like that gay cookie or whatever?

*takes a bucket of water and dumps it on Wojjan*
Topic Starter
LadySuburu

Two wrote:

Maybe it's something RP like that gay cookie or whatever?

*takes a bucket of water and dumps it on Wojjan*
The sandwich nor the fire were/are RP.
0_o

Two wrote:

Maybe it's something RP like that gay cookie or whatever?
Not sure what you're talking about regarding the gay cookie, but if by RP you mean roleplay then nope, he's definitely on fire.
Quaraezha
Whatever LS says is bold is always true.

So Wojjan in fire has probably something to do with Wojjan's bomb role.

But sandwich = clone ???
0_o
I don't know what being on fire does, but I was told that anyone who targets me gets burned as well sooo watch out for that.
0_o
In case I wasn't clear with my last two posts, I set Wojjan on fire with an ability rust gave me.
Quaraezha
Okay so you have this ability to burn people.
But what exactly does it do in terms of Mafia?

Wojjan's a bomb okay, Wojjan will probably explode
But what if someone isn't?
adam2046

Quaraezha wrote:

Okay so you have this ability to burn people.
But what exactly does it do in terms of Mafia?

Wojjan's a bomb okay, Wojjan will probably explode
But what if someone isn't?

0_o wrote:

I don't know what being on fire does
Two_old
Why would you set wojjan on fire?

Let me walk you through what happened night 1.

1. I scan wojjan
2. I motivate wojjan
3. I attempt to recruit wojjan
4. I get recruited by DxS's cult
5. I get killed

End result? My recruitment failed, motivate succeeded, scan succeeded, revived as a member of DeathxShinigami's cult, lost recruit ability, still have no recruit ability. I asked LadySuburu yesterday if I was aligned with anyone at this point and they said no, so if there is another cult going on we aren't considered team mates.

Wojjan's roles are: tree stump, bomb, immune to lynch and night kill, sane doctor, vigilante

so good job potentially getting rid of your ace in the hole there, ace
adam2046

Two wrote:

Why would you set wojjan on fire?

0_o wrote:

I was told that anyone who targets me gets burned
Two_old
as well
Wojjan
Go 0_o, another puzzle solved.
0_o
I set him on fire because all I knew is that he was a neutral bomb. He wasn't gonna be lynched, so I figured since fire probably isn't a good thing that would be our one chance of possibly getting rid of him.

I'm still a bit confused over this tree stump stuff though - Wojjan are you stumped right now or do you just have the ability to turn yourself into one?
Wojjan
maybe you should ask these questions before you set me on fire.
0_o
Like you would have answered me anyway.

But hey, if it got that information out in the open that's good enough for me.
Mashley
wtf 0_o?
rust45

adam2046 wrote:

I was turned into a stump during the day.
Then someone else changed your role, as the only time I targeted you was when I sleuthed you.

Also, wow, this game started to get interesting again.
adam2046

rust45 wrote:

Then someone else changed your role, as the only time I targeted you was when I sleuthed you.

rust45 wrote:

I just realized that it couldn't be facebro as I gave him the vial last night, meaning he wouldn't be able to recruit (unless for some reason he was told in the night that he changed and he could recruit, but that seems odd
rust45
Well shit, now faceman is looking suspicious. What do you have to say for yourself facedude?
0_o

rust45 wrote:

Well shit, now faceman is looking suspicious. What do you have to say for yourself facedude?
I already said what the vial did to me, there's not much else I can say really. Anyone can confirm by targeting me and observing themselves bursting into flame.

Just so you know though, the PM did come in the middle of the night, so any abilities you give to someone can be used before the night ends.
rust45
You do know that my role description never said that it would only change on aspect of a role, you could just not be telling us everything my vial did.
0_o

rust45 wrote:

You do know that my role description never said that it would only change on aspect of a role, you could just not be telling us everything my vial did.
True, but there's really nothing I can do to prove myself without someone investigating me. Here, I'll leave a message for Mashley to lie detect tomorrow.
0_o
I am pro-town. I am not a member of the mafia, cult, or any third party.

That good?
adam2046
That would set him on fire.
0_o

adam2046 wrote:

That would set him on fire.
Hmm, I was gonna say we can wait and see what happens with Wojjan before investigating me, but I suppose Wojjan is unkillable isn't he...

Well I dunno, I guess it just depends on whether someone wants to risk checking me out, or if you guys are willing to trust me or not.
Wojjan
Or we can just kill you.
Or you get recruited.
Or you become a stump.
0_o
Actually Mashley, you wouldn't be able to find out who targetted adam last night would you?
0_o
Oh wait, adam was stumped during the day.

Can you still investigate that, or is it only for night actions?
Mashley
I can investigate him at night... afaik it records anyone who as targeted him since the start of the game.
Two_old
after reading your game update in the other mafia thread, and noticing the lack of one here, I'm left wondering why you are hosting 2 games if you don't even want to host 1
Topic Starter
LadySuburu

Two wrote:

after reading your game update in the other mafia thread, and noticing the lack of one here, I'm left wondering why are you hosting 2 games if you don't even want to host 1
Because I've been sick and haven't really felt like keeping up the past few days. Slipped my mind to post one here.

If you don't like the way I host, gtfo my mafia games. There's nothing making you sign up for them, and the only thing stopping you from not doing so is you yourself, or me deciding I just don't like you enough to let you join.

Spoiler: It's never good to piss someone off, expecially when they're sick. Be glad I'm not entirely an ass or I would've just modkilled you then and there.
Two_old
no you should be glad that I have tolerated your half assed hosting for this long

in fact you should also be glad I posted in this thread instead of the other one, cause I was about to directly reply to the post that prompted mine
Topic Starter
LadySuburu

Two wrote:

no you should be glad that I have tolerated your half assed hosting for this long

in fact you should also be glad I posted in this thread instead of the other one, cause I was about to directly reply to the post that prompted mine
Again, don't join my games if you don't like my hosting. Oh, and I'm sure you saw this coming and made that response on purpose, but I'll type it out anyway.

Two - Neutral Survivor - Modkilled D4.
Two_old
I didn't have a problem with your hosting until you made it a problem

hint: it was after the game had started
Topic Starter
LadySuburu

Two wrote:

I didn't have a problem with your hosting until you made it a problem

hint: it was after the game had started
Well, be happy with yourself in as much as you pissing me off somewhat gave me enough energy to go back and update the games a whole 10ish hours earlier.

Ph0x - Lynched D4.

Night 4, 24 hours.

Ph0x - Latecomer / Alignment Priest / Mod Sleuth / Reverse Lightning Rod - Town - Lynched D4
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
Nobody died.

It is now Day 5.

Edit: Deadline is 5 days, as host has decided.
0_o
Way to be a reverse lightning rod Ph0X >_>

Used my reverend ability last night (not refunded) so there were no recruitments.

So rust, what's up with Ph0X coming up mod sleuth?
adam2046

0_o wrote:

Way to be a reverse lightning rod Ph0X >_>

Used my reverend ability last night (not refunded) so there were no recruitments.

So rust, what's up with Ph0X coming up mod sleuth?
I have no idea what any of you just said means.
Quaraezha
What's a Reverse Lightning Rod and Mod Sleuth?
0_o

adam2046 wrote:

I have no idea what any of you just said means.
I'll try again.

-Lightning rods redirect all night actions onto themselves, so I'm assuming a reverse lightning rod redirects any actions targetted on them at someone else. This is why he came up Neutral when I investigated him.

-My reverend ability stops cult recruitments & kills for one night, and I used it last night. I got a refund on it the last time I used it, but I didn't get one this time. So that ability is used up now.

-rust claimed sleuth earlier, which is the ability that left those investigation notes that LadySuburu read on occasion. Ph0X turned up "mod sleuth", which I am assuming is the official title for that role (a regular sleuth would get the same results but in PM form instead of a mod-confirmed announcement). So I'm wondering what's up with that.
adam2046
I drank something suspicious last night and there's a single cult person left as of the start of last night.

0_o wrote:

-My reverend ability stops cult recruitments & kills for one night, and I used it last night. I got a refund on it the last time I used it, but I didn't get one this time. So that ability is used up now.
Since when does your ability stop cult recruitments?
rust45

0_o wrote:

-rust claimed sleuth earlier, which is the ability that left those investigation notes that LadySuburu read on occasion. Ph0X turned up "mod sleuth", which I am assuming is the official title for that role (a regular sleuth would get the same results but in PM form instead of a mod-confirmed announcement). So I'm wondering what's up with that.
My role is named sleuth, not mod sleuth, I honestly don't know the difference between the two, but I can confirm that I am the sleuth by just sending in my action.

I however will not do it right now as I don't really think it's necessary to use at the moment.

adam2046 wrote:

I drank something suspicious last night and there's a single cult person left as of the start of last night.
How do you know this?
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