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LadySuburu
Well I gave twice as long for night actions and got pretty much nothing so....

Nobody Died.

Day 4. 3 Days.
Two_old
so last mafia is Quaraezha I guess

vote Quaraezha
Quaraezha
Stop guessing.
Two_old
not a big stretch to reach from no night kill to least active player

edit: maybe you want to take a guess yourself?
Quaraezha
rust45 ;D
adam2046
loluguys
0_o
So Mashley, were you silenced or did you actually just forget about this game?

Also, based on information I received, the reason for no nightkill was lack of night action PMs.
Mashley
I was silenced for the whole day, so I investigated myself and found that adam2046 was the culprit. What's with this 'adam 1' thing, anyway?
Also I lie detected Q's 'I am pro-town post' last night and found that it is both true and false :S Does this mean he's independent?
Quaraezha

Mashley wrote:

What's with this 'adam 1' thing, anyway?

LadySuburu wrote:

adam2046 wrote:

Cut sandwich up in to little triangles.
Eat delicious sandwich triangles in front of everyone.
adam begins to feel weird....

There are now two of him.
What... What.

Mashley wrote:

Also I lie detected Q's 'I am pro-town post' last night and found that it is both true and false :S Does this mean he's independent?
Yeah. You got me, I can win with Townie though~
0_o
Alright, should I investigate adam 2? I'm thinking either him or Ph0X.
Two_old

0_o wrote:

Also, based on information I received, the reason for no nightkill was lack of night action PMs.
what information did you receive? cause not only was adam still alive at night but there are two scenarios, based on what I know already, where a night kill would fail
Sleep Powder
Whoops...

@MOD I thought you would send us a PM when you were ready for night PMs...
Topic Starter
LadySuburu

animask wrote:

Whoops...

@MOD I thought you would send us a PM when you were ready for night PMs...
I never send PMs to alert players to day or night start. I also posted, changed the thread title, and gave almost two days instead of the standard one. :O
Quaraezha
You must be confused with NoHItter's Mafias
Topic Starter
LadySuburu

Quaraezha wrote:

You must be confused with NoHItter's Mafias
Yeah, since NoHItter is a better host than I am.

It's true!

No really, it is true. Join his games more often.
Two_old
is this going to be an ace of hearts moment
Topic Starter
LadySuburu

Two wrote:

is this going to be an ace of hearts moment
Nah, but it makes it so I have to do less work if someone else takes up hosting about half of the mafia games on this forum.
Two_old
also can you like fast forward to night 4 with adam lynched
0_o

Two wrote:

0_o wrote:

Also, based on information I received, the reason for no nightkill was lack of night action PMs.
what information did you receive? cause not only was adam still alive at night but there are two scenarios, based on what I know already, where a night kill would fail
Meh I'll just say it. I'm also a reverend, which means I can stop all nightkills for one night. I used it last night (since Mashley and I were both exposed), but this morning I got a message from LS saying that he refunded my ability since there weren't enough night PMs. And by night PMs I'm guessing she's really implying nightkill PMs.
0_o

LadySuburu wrote:

Nah, but it makes it so I have to do less work if someone else takes up hosting about half of the mafia games on this forum.
I was thinking about hosting a game but I could never squeeze one in between yours and NoH's.
0_o
So Quar, what are you, a survivor?
Quaraezha
Survivor?
I have a double win condition (because one victory isn't enough!) if everyone else is dead but, that's too hard for me.
So I'll just win with town.
Wojjan
vote: Quaraezha

It's impossible for one townie to be the last man standing.
0_o

Wojjan wrote:

vote: Quaraezha

It's impossible for one townie to be the last man standing.
If it's just him and one other person left and he votes first then he would win. Not likely, but it's still possible.
0_o
Or if he can kill.
Wojjan
If there is one more person left then either the mafia wins automatically because the number of mafia = number of townies. If there's a townie left then he automaticallly wins.

If he can kill knowing Q he'll still be a liability.

Also my win condition used to be sole survivor but then it changed like a million times and now apparently I'm just a survivor? I think it's because Two gave me a boost to my powers.
Quaraezha
Roleclaim: 50% Serial Killer

When I'm left with another person, it becomes 100% and I win.
I haven't used my skill for the first three nights (I forgot)
I used it last night but it probably failed.
0_o
animask: you can convert serial killers can't you?
Wojjan
0_o would you stop desperately protecting Q.

Under any other circumstances, when someone is a serial killer, what the hell do you do with them?
0_o

Wojjan wrote:

0_o would you stop desperately protecting Q.

Under any other circumstances, when someone is a serial killer, what the hell do you do with them?
In normal circumstances he would be lynched.

If we have a confirmed psychiatrist, we should cure him and save the lynch for someone who's actually mafia.
Quaraezha
I'm not gonna kill townies
0_o
vote adam 2

I thought of the possibility that his clone was pro-town, but if it was he would have brought it up by now.
Two_old
I'm going to unvote and vote adam too in the hopes that it ends this boring game
0_o

Two wrote:

in the hopes that it ends this boring game
I doubt it, there are quite a few neutral roles out there...
0_o
Oh, and Ph0X is neutral.
Quaraezha
vote: adam

I have no idea how that clone thing works.
0_o
So LS are we gonna get an exhaustive report on what happened this game when it's over?
Topic Starter
LadySuburu

0_o wrote:

So LS are we gonna get an exhaustive report on what happened this game when it's over?
I'll answer questions and post whatever I wrote down and remember where it is.
Quaraezha
Wojjan's Sig is giving me viruses.
Wojjan
If you don't lynch Q I swear I am going to kill animask.

NOT REALLY THIS IS A JOKE
Ph0X
TL;DR the last four pages.
0_o

Ph0X wrote:

TL;DR the last four pages.
Nobody died last night
Mashley was silenced yesterday, adam (1) is pro-town = false, Q is pro-town = true and false
I roleclaim reverend (I can stop all nightkills for one night)
Q roleclaims 50% success-rate serial killer who wins with the town
I want animask (psychiatrist) to cure Q, Wojjan wants to lynch Q.

That's it I think.
0_o
Oh, and I investigated you and you're neutral.
adam2046
Are we lynching me again?
By the way, I'm definitely town this time.
Mashley
Lie detected the above post from adam and got 'mostly false'
vote adam 2
adam2046
The false part is the part about lynching me.
You'll cause a paradox, you know? I won't be responsible for what happens.
Mashley
lol, no
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
One more note appears, like the others.

"Based on my deductions, adam is made of wood. He wasn't like this when he was first created, though."
Sleep Powder
Tree Stump

Created... adam2?
adam2046
Vote: animask
Your outrageous claims are as outrageous as always.
Sleep Powder
What else would the note be talking about?

"Wood" and "created" seem like pretty good clues.

Also, don't vote for me. I'm obviously pro-town.

Vote: adam

Claiming Tree Stump yet?
Sleep Powder
unvote, FoS adam
Wojjan
Dudes what the hell are you even doing. If he's a stump, he's unlynchable.
rust45

Wojjan wrote:

Dudes what the hell are you even doing. If he's a stump, he's unlynchable.
^
I suggest we actually try to lynch someone we can.
0_o
Or how about we hammer him and see if it doesn't work before automatically assuming he's a tree stump?
adam2046
I vote we not do that.
Wojjan
0_o I don't know if you're just terrible at open setups or outright terrible but refusing to lynch a claimed serial killer and then settling on a god damn tree stump check is worse than bad play.
0_o

Wojjan wrote:

0_o I don't know if you're just terrible at open setups or outright terrible but refusing to lynch a claimed serial killer and then settling on a god damn tree stump check is worse than bad play.
Since animask can cure serial killers, lynching Q would be the same thing as lynching a CONFIRMED TOWNIE since that's what he's gonna be tomorrow.

Also, traditionally the tree stump has to publicly declare himself to be the tree stump before he actually becomes one. I really don't think hammering him is going to end the day and stop the lynch, which is what I'm thinking you're thinking.
0_o
And did we all forget Mashley's lie detection?
0_o
mod: If a serial killer sends a nightkill PM and then gets cured, does the nightkill still work?

If so then Q, take out Wojjan since we can't lynch him without one of us blowing up.
Two_old
0_o can you tell me who is confirmed as town and why they are confirmed? I've been half assing this game.

Also, trying to tell Quaraezha to kill Wojjan is dumb. It actually makes me think you're mafia so I'm especially interested in why you are confirmed town.
Topic Starter
LadySuburu

0_o wrote:

mod: If a serial killer sends a nightkill PM and then gets cured, does the nightkill still work?

If so then Q, take out Wojjan since we can't lynch him without one of us blowing up.
Yes.
adam2046
You guys are hilarious.
I am a tree stump.
0_o
Making a big post but I gotta go, be back in a few hours.
Wojjan
mod: if anymask were to die in an unfortunate accident or otherwise lose his ability overnight (jailed, roleblocked, culted etc.) would his psychiatry still go through?
Topic Starter
LadySuburu

Wojjan wrote:

mod: if anymask were to die in an unfortunate accident or otherwise lose his ability overnight (jailed, roleblocked, culted etc.) would his psychiatry still go through?
Jailed / Roleblocked? No.

Culted? Potentially.

Killed? Yes.
0_o

Two wrote:

0_o can you tell me who is confirmed as town and why they are confirmed? I've been half assing this game.
I'll just list everyone's status:

0_o
Claim: Pro-town Day Cop, Reverend
Actions & Results:
-Investigated Lyby, NoHItter (no results), adam 1, Ph0X
None of these results have been mod confirmed since all but Ph0X have died without results.

Mashley
Claim: Pro-town Forensic Investigator, Lie Detector
Actions & Results:
-Was silenced D3
-Forensic Investigation results: NoHItter targetted by rust and animask D1, adam 1 targetted Mashley D3 (presumably a silence)
-Lie Detection results: Wojjan is the bomb, animask is town, Q is pro-town = true & false, adam2's "Are we lynching me again? By the way, I'm definitely town this time." = mostly false
Results have been consistently confirmed accurate, so likely pro-town though he could still be a third party.

Wojjan
Claim: Neutral Bomb
Win condition unknown
Actions & Results:
-Found gun & killed Lilac out of spite

rust45
Claim: None (I think)
Actions & Results
-Targetted NoHItter N1, specific action unknown

Quaraezha
Claim: Neutral 50% Serial Killer
Win Condition: Alive at the end; sole survivor = double win
Actions & Results:
-No actions N1&2, kill failed N3

Two
CONFIRMED ROLE: Cult Member, One-Shot Role Cop
Win Condition: Last man standing
Actions & Results:
-Killed N1, Revived D2
-Used investigation N1, results still unknown

Ph0X
Claim: None
Actions & Results
-Mysteriously added to the game D3
Turned up neutral in my D4 investigation

animask
CONFIRMED ROLE: Pro-town Doctor / Deprogrammer / Psychiatrist / Mafia Daychat Enabler
Actions & Results
-Killed N2, Revived D3
-Actions unknown

adam2046 (2)
Claim: Pro-town Tree Stump
Actions & Results
-Split from adam 1 D3
-Confirmed to have been turned into wood, possible tree stump.
Mashley's lie detection seems to imply that he is not pro-town.

Now it IS possible that there have been some cult recruitments or deprograms that we don't know about, so we can't be 100% sure that even the confirmed players still have their original alignments.

Also, trying to tell Quaraezha to kill Wojjan is dumb. It actually makes me think you're mafia so I'm especially interested in why you are confirmed town.
I just figured if he was gonna be cured we might as well get some use out of him. He's effectively pro-town now, and since Wojjan is a neutral bomb, the only way to get rid of him without taking a casualty is to nightkill him.

Also, seeing as Mashley and I haven't been roleblocked yet I am fairly confident that there is no anti-town roleblocker left in this game. There is one thing that I have been assuming though that I should probably verify:
@animask: How many of your abilities can you use per night?
0_o
Also, has Two been deprogrammed yet? (@animask or Two)
0_o
Bleh I hate not editing posts >_>

mod: If a tree stump gets enough votes to hammer, does the day end without a lynch or does nothing happen?
Topic Starter
LadySuburu

0_o wrote:

Bleh I hate not editing posts >_>

mod: If a tree stump gets enough votes to hammer, does the day end without a lynch or does nothing happen?
I've decided that if an unlynchable is attempted to be lynched, that the day will only end without a lynch if it's at deadline.

If a revival-based "unlynchable" is attempted to be lynched, the day will end regardless.

Other situations if any, I haven't really decided on yet.
0_o

LadySuburu wrote:

0_o wrote:

Bleh I hate not editing posts >_>

mod: If a tree stump gets enough votes to hammer, does the day end without a lynch or does nothing happen?
I've decided that if an unlynchable is attempted to be lynched, that the day will only end without a lynch if it's at deadline.

If a revival-based "unlynchable" is attempted to be lynched, the day will end regardless.

Other situations if any, I haven't really decided on yet.
OK, so that means that if adam really is a tree stump then we can get enough votes on him to hammer, and if nothing happens then we can vote for someone else.

Sound good to everyone?

Besides adam.
rust45
It would just be a waste of time.
Two_old
why would it be a waste of time? nice contribution, wish I was a vigilante

nice use of colors btw 0_o
0_o
Waaaait a sec.

I vote adam
Two votes adam
Q votes adam
Mashley votes adam
animask votes adam
animask unvoted in the next post, but that was 5/9 votes right there. LS, did you catch that?
adam2046
8-)
Sleep Powder
*sigh* I should've checked how many votes there were before actually voting.

Let's find out if he's... nah, hes probably a tree stump.

Can we revote if he turns out to be a stump for Day 4?
Sleep Powder
*sigh* I should've checked how many votes there were before actually voting.

Let's find out if he's... nah, hes probably a tree stump.

Can we revote if he turns out to be a stump for Day 4?
Two_old

animask wrote:

Can we revote if he turns out to be a stump for Day 4?
I've decided that if an unlynchable is attempted to be lynched, that the day will only end without a lynch if it's at deadline
6 posts above you man, read
Wojjan
well if we can do that we might as well see for ourselves

vote: adam. the right one. stump adam
0_o
OK he's hammered now, so while we're waiting, who are we going with if adam turns up stumped? I'm thinking either rust or Ph0X, since everyone else has given me a reason not to lynch them. I'd feel a bit more comfortable with Ph0X since I know he's neutral, but what do you guys think? How does everyone feel about saving Q for animask?
Wojjan
animask said that his role has a chance of error. We don't want Q to suddenly get his own cult and still have a kill power or something equally ridiculous. And I wouldn't put it past LS to do this in this game.

If we have a role, and it kills things, it's a bad role to have around, and relying on the successful execution of one player's night action in the craziest damn game ever is one of the dumbest, least sensical gambits to make, especially on day 4.
0_o

Wojjan wrote:

animask said that his role has a chance of error.
Hmm I didn't see that post, could you link me to it?
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
Yeah, looks like adam was hammered.

Although, after a few hours of punching, kicking, and stabbing him, you're getting tired of it.
0_o
Well then.

unvote

Wojjan, what's your win condition?
Quaraezha
unvote adam

I can always not kill anyone, I did forget I even had the role in the first place.
If a killing role is that bad for town, I won't kill anyone.
Sleep Powder
I don't even remember talking about my role...

Did someone else say something?
Two_old
unvote, vote Quaraezha
Wojjan
Nevermind, the revive thing had the downsides to it. But just because psychiatry works doesn't mean it won't get blocked.
rust45
Given the uncertainty of the nights, I really don't think we can rely on animask's ability working. A Lynch seems to be the best option.
0_o
I would still like this question answered:

0_o wrote:

Also, has Two been deprogrammed yet? (@animask or Two)
0_o
And if you haven't animask, can you use your deprogrammer and psychiatry ability in the same night?

I have something to say but I would need these answers first.
0_o
Actually w/e, I'll post this anyway.

Regarding a chance of Q getting blocked, why would anyone block him? If you were a roleblocker who would you target: a lie detector, a day cop, or someone who is curing an independent serial killer? Nobody pro-town or anti-town should have any motivation to stop a psychiatrist.

Here's the thing. Not counting adam since he's effectively a dead player who can post, right now I know that at least 4/8 players are neutral, and with the possibility of a recruiting cult and a remaining mafia member, for all I know we could already be outnumbered. We need more confirmed townies to avoid a third party win, so I think keeping Q around tonight is worth the risk.
Two_old
If there was a recruiting cult (and there isn't to the best of my knowledge, lie detect this if you want), why would the existence of that matter? town would assimilate and win just the same
0_o

Two wrote:

If there was a recruiting cult (and there isn't to the best of my knowledge, lie detect this if you want), why would the existence of that matter? town would assimilate and win just the same
Cult wins when there's a majority, so anyone who isn't in the cult when that happens loses. And really, when you've been fighting the whole game for the town, even if you do end up assimilated I don't think a cult win would be as satisfying.
Two_old

0_o wrote:

Cult wins when there's a majority, so anyone who isn't in the cult when that happens loses. And really, when you've been fighting the whole game for the town, even if you do end up assimilated I don't think a cult win would be as satisfying.
They win when it's a majority because the rest of the town would have to assimilate, so if you really care about being declared a loser, think about it in the way that if it were to play out, you'd be on the winning team.

The second part of your post is woman logic and so I'm going to ignore that.
0_o
OK guys, lets all do nothing and join the cult so we can ALL WIN!
Two_old
why is it so hard to understand that a cult is actually a mason group that can recruit, with a bad reputation?

I really doubt that there is a cult secretly recruiting people though, since I know that I can't

just to be clear so we don't have some sort of circular argument that confuses animask: a cult existing is irrelevant until all mafia are confirmed dead, and a serial killer is pretty mafia
0_o
And I see what you're getting at, but I simply don't see the cult the same way you do. Probably no point in arguing any more about it though since I'm pretty sure none of us is gonna change our mind anyway.

When LS refunded my reverend ability, he added that my ability will now also stop cult recruitments. That's why I think there's still cult leader out there. Who, now that I think of it, would most likely be rust since it would be strange to have a cult leader added mid-game (Ph0X)
0_o
Also Two I'm not accusing you of being aware of this, I'm thinking it's more likely there's a second cult.

And actually given how the game has been going so far I suppose it wouldn't be that far fetched if Ph0X was a cult leader after all. So I dunno.

Anyone have any info on how exactly Ph0X got here?
adam2046
Stump cult who don't know each other.

Rust probably isn't in the cult. Has a town based role but could also have accidentally created a cult leader with another ability.
Animask probably is in the cult, but most likely isn't a leader. Do not count on him doing anything.
I am not 100% certain of any of this.

I was originally Pro-Town with the ability to give false lynch results to stop my own death or something (doesn't make much sense to me) and with the ability to turn all neutrals into independants.
I was turned into a stump a little while after I received my original role. Which is when Mashley got "mostly false".

Face should keep using his night kill block since all the mafia are dead and thus it should keep being refunded.
Ph0X, Qua and Wojjan are the most likely candidates for cult leader. I suggest a Ph0X lynch.
Two and animask are next likely candidates.
0_o, rust and Mashley are the absolute most unlikely to be in the cult unless they were turned during the day.
Stump cult leader hopefully isn't a stump...

I'm doing this all on whimsy and probably shouldn't be listened to, but also shouldn't be ignored.
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