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Interesting.Wojjan wrote:
I think he's counting the amount of times someone quotes me.Wojjan wrote:
hee hee hee
or it could be whenever she speaks
For all we know, it might be adam's skill.
Actually I'm just messing around.
lol
lol
mod: How long does the day last? Can't find that detail in the OP/beginning of the day..
EDIT: Also I'm assuming roles are not revealed upon death, but I'll ask you to clarify that anyway.
EDIT: Also I'm assuming roles are not revealed upon death, but I'll ask you to clarify that anyway.
Vote: adam2046
You make me feel uneasy already.
You make me feel uneasy already.
Not allowed to make jokes on day 1 anymore?LadySuburu wrote:
Vote: adam2046
You make me feel uneasy already.
PyP mafia and other advanced styles like this, counting or any other things like that make me really uneasy.adam2046 wrote:
Not allowed to make jokes on day 1 anymore?
Those kinds of powers turn out to be anti-town and extremely powerful. Since I can't confirm if you're joking or not.... :d
Guess I'll stop joking about powers then.LadySuburu wrote:
PyP mafia and other advanced styles like this, counting or any other things like that make me really uneasy.
Those kinds of powers turn out to be anti-town and extremely powerful. Since I can't confirm if you're joking or not.... :d
(I was counting Wojjan's posts for the record.)
Topic Starter
Vote Totals:
1 - Mashley (NoHItter)
2 - Quaraezha (adam2046, DeathxShinigami)
1 - naptime (Lybydose)
1 - Wojjan (Mashley)
2 - No Lynch (bmin11, Firo Prochainezo)
1 - DeathxShinigami (dkun)
1 - adam2046 (LadySuburu)
1 - Mashley (NoHItter)
2 - Quaraezha (adam2046, DeathxShinigami)
1 - naptime (Lybydose)
1 - Wojjan (Mashley)
2 - No Lynch (bmin11, Firo Prochainezo)
1 - DeathxShinigami (dkun)
1 - adam2046 (LadySuburu)
Deadline is Sunday noon GMT. 50 Hours, to be exact.0_o wrote:
mod: How long does the day last? Can't find that detail in the OP/beginning of the day..
mod: are roles revealed on death? If not, what about alignment?
Topic Starter
Role names are revealed. Alignment is also revealed.Lybydose wrote:
mod: are roles revealed on death? If not, what about alignment?
well then RANDOM LYNCH TIME
vote: Firo Whoever
I wouldn't even get to 100 adam, don't you worry
vote: Firo Whoever
I wouldn't even get to 100 adam, don't you worry
yayWojjan wrote:
well then RANDOM LYNCH TIME
vote: Firo Whoever
So nothing significant has happened so far, except for perhaps adam counting backwards >.>
So yeah...
So yeah...
RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR HAS SPOKEN
vote DxS
vote DxS
To the guys voting no-lynch: I really don't see how that's going to help. We're at day 1 right now and missing a lynch is just missing a chance to find mafia.
Topic Starter
Vote Totals:
1 - Mashley (NoHItter)
2 - Quaraezha (adam2046, DeathxShinigami)
1 - naptime (Lybydose)
1 - Wojjan (Mashley)
2 - No Lynch (bmin11, Firo Prochainezo)
2 - DeathxShinigami (dkun, 0_o)
1 - adam2046 (LadySuburu)
1 - Firo Prochainezo (Wojjan)
9 to lynch.
Counting backwards is fine, as far as I know.
1 - Mashley (NoHItter)
2 - Quaraezha (adam2046, DeathxShinigami)
1 - naptime (Lybydose)
1 - Wojjan (Mashley)
2 - No Lynch (bmin11, Firo Prochainezo)
2 - DeathxShinigami (dkun, 0_o)
1 - adam2046 (LadySuburu)
1 - Firo Prochainezo (Wojjan)
9 to lynch.
Counting backwards is fine, as far as I know.
Everyone wants at least a chance to use their role since this is such a special mafia. It'd be a shame to die day 1.Mashley wrote:
To the guys voting no-lynch: I really don't see how that's going to help. We're at day 1 right now and missing a lynch is just missing a chance to find mafia.
What adam saidadam2046 wrote:
Everyone wants at least a chance to use their role since this is such a special mafia. It'd be a shame to die day 1.Mashley wrote:
To the guys voting no-lynch: I really don't see how that's going to help. We're at day 1 right now and missing a lynch is just missing a chance to find mafia.
Unvote
Vote: No Lynch
Honestly with the thinking that everyone has a power you could keep a no lynch going until someone with an investigative power or something similar has all the mafia (and we don't even know if someone picked a role with that sort of power).
Which is boring.
I don't mind a no lynch on day 1 but I'm not going to vote for it.
Which is boring.
I don't mind a no lynch on day 1 but I'm not going to vote for it.
I'd be willing to go nolynch if nobody catches my eye by the deadline.
How do we know that the mafia don't also have equally ridiculous powers? How do we know that all the powers are good for the town?
Even if everyone has what appears to be a power role, some could be equally destructive. What about insane cops? Millers? Godfathers? Cultists that just grow in power the longer wait? Something that's been made up and is completely ridiculous?
If we sit around and wait for some investigative roles to find everything, we just end up with "oh herp derp I was insane and half the town is miller without knowing it, now we lose because we have nothing to go off of and it's day 4 and oh here's this huge cult".
Getting people to talk and vote is still the best way to scumhunt. Skipping to the night phase without lynching is perfect for scum because there's no time for them to get caught in a lie or a suspicious bandwagon.
Even if everyone has what appears to be a power role, some could be equally destructive. What about insane cops? Millers? Godfathers? Cultists that just grow in power the longer wait? Something that's been made up and is completely ridiculous?
If we sit around and wait for some investigative roles to find everything, we just end up with "oh herp derp I was insane and half the town is miller without knowing it, now we lose because we have nothing to go off of and it's day 4 and oh here's this huge cult".
Getting people to talk and vote is still the best way to scumhunt. Skipping to the night phase without lynching is perfect for scum because there's no time for them to get caught in a lie or a suspicious bandwagon.
*cough*
Roleclaim: Copycat role
There I contributed.
Roleclaim: Copycat role
There I contributed.
I'm not sure why you would roleclaim...
adamsopunny
also copycat what
also copycat what
What exactly were you trying to accomplish there?DeathxShinigami wrote:
*cough*
Roleclaim: Copycat role
There I contributed.
is this role pro-town or what?Rantai wrote:
What exactly were you trying to accomplish there?DeathxShinigami wrote:
*cough*
Roleclaim: Copycat role
There I contributed.
I like where this is going.
So, mind explaining why you're voting him?Wojjan wrote:
god damnit DxS
Vote: DxS
Nah, I'm just someone else's double so I'd take the hit instead.
Fun to be the decoy, gets us to night faster eh?
Edit:
I'm the opposite of whatever alignment of the person I copied and it's my goal for my real host to win. So I'm town/neutral/mafia
Fun to be the decoy, gets us to night faster eh?
Edit:
I'm the opposite of whatever alignment of the person I copied and it's my goal for my real host to win. So I'm town/neutral/mafia
Why do you never make sense, ever.DeathxShinigami wrote:
Nah, I'm just someone else's double so I'd take the hit instead.
Fun to be the decoy, gets us to night faster eh?
what.
That's all sorts of confusing.DeathxShinigami wrote:
Nah, I'm just someone else's double so I'd take the hit instead.
Fun to be the decoy, gets us to night faster eh?
Edit:
I'm the opposite of whatever alignment of the person I copied and it's my goal for my real host to win. So I'm town/neutral/mafia
Okay so wait.
You're a neutral and if you "copy" someone, you copy his/her abilities but and become the opposite side?
Where Mafia > Town; Town > Mafia?
You're a neutral and if you "copy" someone, you copy his/her abilities but and become the opposite side?
Where Mafia > Town; Town > Mafia?
Have you copied anyone yet?DeathxShinigami wrote:
Nah, I'm just someone else's double so I'd take the hit instead.
Fun to be the decoy, gets us to night faster eh?
Edit:
I'm the opposite of whatever alignment of the person I copied and it's my goal for my real host to win. So I'm town/neutral/mafia
Is your win condition a dual-situation win?
wait, what? a roleclaim already?
also what adam said, that description is confusing as hell.
then again might be a bomb who wants someone to lynch him.
also what adam said, that description is confusing as hell.
then again might be a bomb who wants someone to lynch him.
I've copied a user but I have to wait til night to get my results.LadySuburu wrote:
Have you copied anyone yet?DeathxShinigami wrote:
Nah, I'm just someone else's double so I'd take the hit instead.
Fun to be the decoy, gets us to night faster eh?
Edit:
I'm the opposite of whatever alignment of the person I copied and it's my goal for my real host to win. So I'm town/neutral/mafia
Is your win condition a dual-situation win?
Neutral = neutral @ filipino dude
what.DeathxShinigami wrote:
Nah, I'm just someone else's double so I'd take the hit instead.
Fun to be the decoy, gets us to night faster eh?
Edit:
I'm the opposite of whatever alignment of the person I copied and it's my goal for my real host to win. So I'm town/neutral/mafia
wait so if you copy someone who is neutral, how do you become the opposite alignment?DeathxShinigami wrote:
Edit:
I'm the opposite of whatever alignment of the person I copied and it's my goal for my real host to win. So I'm town/neutral/mafia
As in, since you're the opposite alignment of whomever you copy... If you copy a mafia and become town, and that mafia dies, do you then win with the town from then on?LadySuburu wrote:
Is your win condition a dual-situation win?
So not only do you receive new abilities, but you get to know that role of the person you copied too, eh?
It's just the way I like playing0_o wrote:
Why do you never make sense, ever.DeathxShinigami wrote:
Nah, I'm just someone else's double so I'd take the hit instead.
Fun to be the decoy, gets us to night faster eh?
ILY <3
@Mod: Forgot about the rule pertaining editing posts, and did so to fix an error with dual-quote tags.
If a punishment for that violation is needed, go ahead and do so.
If a punishment for that violation is needed, go ahead and do so.
Also what if you copy a townie (say a Cop). You gain the cop ability and become mafia, but win with town? Do you gain nightkilling abilities? Do you know who else is the mafia? That makes zero sense, it would instantly break the game for a "town-aligned" person to actually be mafia.
Alright you guys settle down
I already picked who I was going to copy I just have to wait til night to find out if it was successful until then I'm just a neutral aligned player
Yes I copy all of the special features of the person who I copied except my alignment goes to mafia/town depending on what the alignment is on the person I copied
I don't figure out exactly what the alignment is on the guy I copied but I only know that I get the opposite at the end. And I can't copy someone else if my first copy is successful until I get lynched.
Sorry, my role info is really confusing @_@...
I already picked who I was going to copy I just have to wait til night to find out if it was successful until then I'm just a neutral aligned player
Yes I copy all of the special features of the person who I copied except my alignment goes to mafia/town depending on what the alignment is on the person I copied
I don't figure out exactly what the alignment is on the guy I copied but I only know that I get the opposite at the end. And I can't copy someone else if my first copy is successful until I get lynched.
Sorry, my role info is really confusing @_@...
You can copy people again after you get lynched? What?
I still need you to answer my last post (excluding the one at the mod.), if you don't know, you need to ask the Mod, and say you don't know.DeathxShinigami wrote:
Alright you guys settle down
I already picked who I was going to copy I just have to wait til night to find out if it was successful until then I'm just a neutral aligned player
Yes I copy all of the special features of the person who I copied except my alignment goes to mafia/town depending on what the alignment is on the person I copied
I don't figure out exactly what the alignment is on the guy I copied but I only know that I get the opposite at the end. And I can't copy someone else if my first copy is successful until I get lynched.
Sorry, my role info is really confusing @_@...
The question still remains: why did you roleclaim in the first place?
Ok so:
- When you copy a person, you stay as that person's role until you are lynched.
- If you are lynched you don't actually die and you pick another person?
- Your alignment shows up as the opposite of the other person's.
- You are actually rooting for their side but are counted as the opposite.
- You possibly misread your role pm.
- You're possibly lying and making the most convoluted role ever.
- If we lynch you right now, we can stop this mess.
- You roleclaimed possibly because your role stipulates you must/because you want to confuse everyone/for no reason at all/etc.
Is your copied role revealed on death? Is your opposite alignment revealed on death?
- When you copy a person, you stay as that person's role until you are lynched.
- If you are lynched you don't actually die and you pick another person?
- Your alignment shows up as the opposite of the other person's.
- You are actually rooting for their side but are counted as the opposite.
- You possibly misread your role pm.
- You're possibly lying and making the most convoluted role ever.
- If we lynch you right now, we can stop this mess.
- You roleclaimed possibly because your role stipulates you must/because you want to confuse everyone/for no reason at all/etc.
Is your copied role revealed on death? Is your opposite alignment revealed on death?
Didn't we need some action in here?0_o wrote:
The question still remains: why did you roleclaim in the first place?
@ Lady, Does it look like I wanna rulebreak?
Seriously, this is hectic...
Rulebreak? If you don't even know your own role's win condition, you should probably ask for clarification.
This is too much of an action AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
and I still don't get your objective. Since you are saying it's an opposite alignment, do you have to kill your copy or something?
and I still don't get your objective. Since you are saying it's an opposite alignment, do you have to kill your copy or something?
As far as I know, it's not breaking the rules to say how your role works, or how you win, nor is it against the rules for you yourself to ask the mod so that you know how you win.DeathxShinigami wrote:
Didn't we need some action in here?0_o wrote:
The question still remains: why did you roleclaim in the first place?
@ Lady, Does it look like I wanna rulebreak?
Seriously, this is hectic...
Now, it's against the rules to quote from the mod, post word for word, or paraphrase what the mod wrote.
Writing up a pm to ask about my role privately, no further questions until I get a response back!
@Everyone else tl;dr I already copied the guy during pre-game and I have a generic win condition as a copier but I have to wait til night for it all to get setup for further days.
@Everyone else tl;dr I already copied the guy during pre-game and I have a generic win condition as a copier but I have to wait til night for it all to get setup for further days.
I believe what he's saying is that he appears to be the opposite faction. So say he copies a Townie Cop. He would appear to be mafia for any sane person that investigated him, or when he is lynched. Of course, since he suggests that he can copy again after being lynched, maybe lynching him automatically failsbmin11 wrote:
This is too much of an action AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
and I still don't get your objective. Since you are saying it's an opposite alignment, do you have to kill your copy or something?
Either that, or his role is a self-revival style role.Lybydose wrote:
I believe what he's saying is that he appears to be the opposite faction. So say he copies a Townie Cop. He would appear to be mafia for any sane person that investigated him, or when he is lynched. Of course, since he suggests that he can copy again after being lynched, maybe lynching him automatically failsbmin11 wrote:
This is too much of an action AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
and I still don't get your objective. Since you are saying it's an opposite alignment, do you have to kill your copy or something?
Please make sure to clarify before the end of the day.
He also says:Lybydose wrote:
Of course, since he suggests that he can copy again after being lynched, maybe lynching him automatically fails
DeathxShinigami wrote:
Nah, I'm just someone else's double so I'd take the hit instead.
Fun to be the decoy, gets us to night faster eh?
That quote actually implies he has 2 lives or something ಠ_ಠ
So if he copies and we lynch him does it actually mean we lynch the copy?
I'm thinking like when he copies he applies a layer of someone else on him, so he's not actually lynched, the persona layer is.
So if he copies and we lynch him does it actually mean we lynch the copy?
I'm thinking like when he copies he applies a layer of someone else on him, so he's not actually lynched, the persona layer is.
Well...I've been alerted via pm that my win condition changed. But basically I'm clone of another player and apparently my request for cloning went through already.
tl;dr
I nearly evaded being modkilled.
tl;dr
I nearly evaded being modkilled.
well then what was your original win condition, before it changed?
I half-win if I killed the person who I copied. That's it besides swapping alignment to other players.Wojjan wrote:
well then what was your original win condition, before it changed?
Just a minor change but whew...
To be honest my abilities are really vague which I need to get cleared up
(I don't know what happens after I copied the player)
So don't bash me terribly
(I don't know what happens after I copied the player)
So don't bash me terribly
who did you copy? We have a mislynch so we may very well waste it on them.
I copied bmin.Wojjan wrote:
who did you copy? We have a mislynch so we may very well waste it on them.
However after learning my role more
Apparently I'm already cloned so if I die I don't come back to life to copycat again.
well then, if we kill bmin, we find out what alignment he is. And if he's town, we lynch you.
vote: bmin
vote: bmin
I don't like the way things are going. Why am I being lynched?
Cause I reverse aligned copied you.bmin11 wrote:
I don't like the way things are going. Why am I being lynched?
I still don't get it. What are we getting from lynching me?
D: what's going on ahhhhhh why would I have an align---- oh DxS copied me...
I can say, you guys aren't getting anything from this
I can say, you guys aren't getting anything from this
but...... how should I defence against that? ;_; It's not that I was acting suspicious or anything, but I'm being lynched to confirm his role. Right now, I have no idea how I can help you guys figuring his role ;_____;
Everyone realizes they get my alignment out of this right?
I don't even know what yours is bmin, but at least we'd have something to go on without making random assumptions.
I don't even know what yours is bmin, but at least we'd have something to go on without making random assumptions.
Hey and you guys are ending up killing an innocent while you guys could have taken your chance to kill those bad guys! and your alignment thing isn't confirmed at all! This is suicidal
Maybe you are a bad guy. That's what we're trying to figure out. Now stop squirming when one person votes you, you bloody scum.
Posting so i don't get prod'ed and bmin you looking kind of, what is the word...
Never mind i lost it.
Never mind i lost it.
inb4 TBTE is a mad scientist and puts us all back on the start of Day 1
..............
..............
naptime
vote: bmin11 or DeathxShinigami, either way works.
Just out of curiosity DxS, since it seems like you started this whole mess with almost no provocation whatsoever, what were / are you planning on doing to even win? I can't tell if you are some screwy third party leading us all on a huge string of lies or if you really just martyred yourself on the small chance that you would get lucky (which if so you probably did).
Just out of curiosity DxS, since it seems like you started this whole mess with almost no provocation whatsoever, what were / are you planning on doing to even win? I can't tell if you are some screwy third party leading us all on a huge string of lies or if you really just martyred yourself on the small chance that you would get lucky (which if so you probably did).
Got lucky was all.
The clairification I got helped a lot actually.
It's better to find out what bmin is first though before targeting me since i get to know what alignment I actually am once he dies lol...
The clairification I got helped a lot actually.
It's better to find out what bmin is first though before targeting me since i get to know what alignment I actually am once he dies lol...
Err guys, why aren't you voting for DxS? There are more townies than mafia; there's a much higher chance that DxS copied a townie than a mafioso.
Like I said, it's a 2 for 1 deal if we lynch bmin
You find out what his alignment was and what mine is since I copied him. Unless you really think just lynching me helps faceman.
You find out what his alignment was and what mine is since I copied him. Unless you really think just lynching me helps faceman.
Vote: bmin11
DxS is Townie if bmin11's mafia, yes?
We can just kill DxS if bmin11 isn't :B
DxS is Townie if bmin11's mafia, yes?
We can just kill DxS if bmin11 isn't :B
Yes, but lynching you accomplishes the same thing, and you statistically have a higher chance of turning mafia than bmin does. Unless I'm missing something..DeathxShinigami wrote:
Like I said, it's a 2 for 1 deal if we lynch bmin
You find out what his alignment was and what mine is since I copied him. Unless you really think just lynching me helps faceman.
Don't we also find out DxS's alignment if we lynch him?
We can then deduce bmin's alignment because it would just be the opposite.
We can then deduce bmin's alignment because it would just be the opposite.
That's what I've been saying.Lybydose wrote:
Don't we also find out DxS's alignment if we lynch him?
We can then deduce bmin's alignment because it would just be the opposite.
Although I don't like how bmin's acting, I'd rather lynch DxS.
Hmm...
So DxS has copied bmin and is of opposite alignment and we're lynching bmin to determine if DxS was mafia or town from bmin's alignment?
Seems like a really round about way of doing it, especially when lynching DxS will determine what alignment bmin is too. Oh unless DxS flips as neutral and not the reverse-copied alignment?
Going by that, I guess lynching bmin would mean a guaranteed result, at the very least.
Vote: bmin11
So DxS has copied bmin and is of opposite alignment and we're lynching bmin to determine if DxS was mafia or town from bmin's alignment?
Seems like a really round about way of doing it, especially when lynching DxS will determine what alignment bmin is too. Oh unless DxS flips as neutral and not the reverse-copied alignment?
Going by that, I guess lynching bmin would mean a guaranteed result, at the very least.
Vote: bmin11
although I think lynching DxS would be better, because just as like what faceman said
vote: bmin11
we still get to deduce DxS' alignment, if what he's been saying about his role is true0_o wrote:
Err guys, why aren't you voting for DxS? There are more townies than mafia; there's a much higher chance that DxS copied a townie than a mafioso.
vote: bmin11
It's better to find out what bmin is first though before targeting me since i get to know what alignment I actually am once he dies lol...Well of course you would say that, because it means us not lynching you instead.
bmin is statistically much more likely to be town, which means that DxS is statistically much more likely to be mafia, having gained bmin's opposite alignment. If we lynch DxS and he flips mafia, that means we don't have to lynch bmin tomorrow and waste two lynches dealing with this mess.
On the other hand, if we waste the day lynching bmin and he flips town (much more likely than flipping mafia), we waste tomorrow dealing with DxS and end up on Day 3 without having made any real progress hunting for the actual scum.
Furthermore, what if bmin has some ridiculous townie power role? Do we really want DxS to gain that power role for the mafia for one night?
Vote: DxS
Totally just got my pm back from tastelikecoke (Sorry for being late)
But here's the deal which I still don't know. Given whatever role bmin has that I copied I'm only seen as the opposite by other abilities.
So if bmin's neutral I'm still kinda lost for what it means to me.
Guessing I'd be neutral if he's neutral but who knows.
But here's the deal which I still don't know. Given whatever role bmin has that I copied I'm only seen as the opposite by other abilities.
So if bmin's neutral I'm still kinda lost for what it means to me.
Guessing I'd be neutral if he's neutral but who knows.
naptime
That's what we've been saying this whole time.naptime wrote:
Wait what. Can you like please get your role figured out? Did you just imply you actually have the same affiliation as bmin11 but are only seen as the opposite affiliation by Cops (as Lybydose originally theorized)?
Unvote bmin11 ugh
ib both bmin and dxs are mafia trying to distance themselves with this ridiculous scheme
So you mean you're actually of the same alignment, with the same abilities?DeathxShinigami wrote:
But here's the deal which I still don't know. Given whatever role bmin has that I copied I'm only seen as the opposite by other abilities.
Or does this mean when you flip, your power will flip you as the same alignment as the host (when in fact you were opposite), in order to screw with us? With the only way to determine your true alignment is through an investigation or killing the host (even this assumes you're not lying and do actually get an opposite alignment).
This is confusing me now -.-
I have no idea how my alignment flips but it seems to be whatever the opposite of whoever I copied (thanks host)
I'm assuming that it's a permanent flip though since I get no 2nd chances but no idea how it effects other roles that everyone else may have.
Just working with what I got.
bmin was a coincidence that I chose to copy during pregame. So no wonder you're freaking the poor newbie player out.
I'm assuming that it's a permanent flip though since I get no 2nd chances but no idea how it effects other roles that everyone else may have.
Just working with what I got.
bmin was a coincidence that I chose to copy during pregame. So no wonder you're freaking the poor newbie player out.