Kitsunemimi wrote:

Hmm... I think I agree with pieguy for this one, his reasoning sounds pretty decent. Although DxS sorta caused his own incident, I can't really see everyone suddenly deciding to side against Bakaloid if MDuh just survives through the night. Then again, the only other weird thing I see going on here is... dkun.. who's being even more quiet than Bakaloid...

...That's.. that's just like too quiet man. I don't even know if he's actually really busy or not.

+ my reasons for being quiet is my personal life, you'll have to excuse me for that. but i'm sure i'll be getting more activity going on here.

tbh, pieguy's suspicions are completely baseless.

yeah kinda weak reasoning pieguy

vote: pieguy1372

Yes because baseless means mafia.

I would appreciate it if iMuffin made more contributions to the game than prod responses and random/bandwagon votes.

Anyone got any good reasons for voting pieguy? I'd have thought you'd learn from the last 2 guys you all bandwagoned on.

if we assume 4 mafia, we're on mylo.

Do we no lynch or have the cop claim?

0_o wrote:

I would appreciate it if iMuffin made more contributions to the game than prod responses and random/bandwagon votes.

and i would appreciate it if i did too

Then why don't you contribute something now?

you mean other than the stuff that has already been said?

Yeah, you could, y'know...play.

I mean, it's Day 3 and we have basically NOTHING to go on. About half the town is already dead, and we got one bad guy.

Abstaining from voting in the meantime, I think, we got nothin' but accusations. After all, look at where said accusations and baseless claims have led us.

roleclaim: Cop

Unfortunately, I haven't found any mafia yet. First night I checked Mashley and I couldn't complete my action, so perhaps we have a roleblocker in this game. Second night I checked E-Hooker and he's innocent.

Seeing as I'm almost dead, I practically have to do this.

Strikes me as something of a mafia last resort sort of thing to roleclaim the exact role Wojjan wanted to be roleclaimed... but I'm not going to vote because then some silly person will hammer it like last night. Still, FOS on pieguy.

Any particular reason for investigating E-Hooker? If I were a cop I probably would have targetted someone more vocal like Wojjan.

But yeah, unless someone counterclaims I really don't think lynching pieguy is a good idea at the moment.

It seems odd that you claim cop, and suddenly have an innocent result on someone I suspected to be mafia. Nevertheless, you're pretty dang new if I remember correctly, and if you thought I knew what I was doing my fos could be worth a cop check.

Don't do that anymore. It's bad play, regardless of what side you're on.

pieguy1372 wrote:

roleclaim: Cop

Unfortunately, I haven't found any mafia yet. First night I checked Mashley and I couldn't complete my action, so perhaps we have a roleblocker in this game. Second night I checked E-Hooker and he's innocent.

Seeing as I'm almost dead, I practically have to do this.

Well... that's interesting... :< But yeah, you probably should've went for someone who could be of more risk.

Still though, I think it might be a better idea if we pick someone else, because having a cop around could be really valuable, and I don't want us to lose another innocent because they were the only person who seemed suspicious at the very moment.

iMuffin made a weird response to faceman's comment up there, so I think he might be hiding something.
Vote: iMuffin

if anyone knew me they would know i make many weird comments

I was probably investigated because at least two people believed/do believe/think that I am Mafia. I already said that's not the case, but pieguy seems to have checked up on me last night. Curiosity, perhaps?

Either way, i'm a townie, sorry Wojjie.

iMuffiin, do you have any intention of actually playing this game?

pieguy1372 wrote:

roleclaim: Cop

Unfortunately, I haven't found any mafia yet. First night I checked Mashley and I couldn't complete my action, so perhaps we have a roleblocker in this game. Second night I checked E-Hooker and he's innocent.

Seeing as I'm almost dead, I practically have to do this.

this roleclaim only made me more suspicious :<

i'm voting and not voting at the same time apparently

Upon further consideration I'm going to Vote iMuffin... he's just refusing to participate in the game at all.

E-Hooker wrote:

I was probably investigated because at least two people believed/do believe/think that I am Mafia. I already said that's not the case, but pieguy seems to have checked up on me last night. Curiosity, perhaps?

Either way, i'm a townie, sorry Wojjie.

Or you're providing a logical reason for pieguy to have checked you instead of pie himself, and he's not a cop.
I don't think that's the case, but it's a possibility.

Meh.

I'm just kind of beginning to get pissed, some people are barely playing which isn't helpful at all.
don't sign up if you're not going to give a shit [there's a difference between being inactive and just passively lazing around].

Just sayin'.

Wojjie: I don't quite follow...do you still think i'm Mafia? I'm pretty sure you think pie isn't the cop, at least.

I doubt it.

Ah, I see.

I'm not going to vote at all during this day unless I see something solid against somebody.

Mashley wrote:

Upon further consideration I'm going to Vote iMuffin... he's just refusing to participate in the game at all.

I'm not participating? k maybe instead i should throw together poorly worded excuses that make me seem more suspicious than the other way around. inb4 people claim this makes me suspicious.

Are you going to participate now?

Mashley wrote:

Are you going to participate now?

I'll participate hard

I really just want to kill him.

Wojjan wrote:

I really just want to kill him.

You'll have all night for that.

Thing is I'm not sure how wise lynching someone based on inactivity is in a potential lylo situation..

At this point I'm more in favor of a no-lynch since there's an even number of players. An extra round of night actions may be useful.

0_o wrote:

Wojjan wrote:

I really just want to kill him.

You'll have all night for that.

Thing is I'm not sure how wise lynching someone based on inactivity is in a potential lylo situation..

At this point I'm more in favor of a no-lynch since there's an even number of players. An extra round of night actions may be useful.

if we lynched for inactivities i shouldn't really be the only one on the chopping block.

0_o wrote:

Thing is I'm not sure how wise lynching someone based on inactivity is in a potential lylo situation..

It's not inactivity I'm voting on, it's the complete vagueness of his posts and his determination not to get into any discussion. If you go through the thread more or less all his posts are bandwagon votes or, most recently, vague responses to me.

Mashley wrote:

0_o wrote:

Thing is I'm not sure how wise lynching someone based on inactivity is in a potential lylo situation..

It's not inactivity I'm voting on, it's the complete vagueness of his posts and his determination not to get into any discussion. If you go through the thread more or less all his posts are bandwagon votes or, most recently, vague responses to me.

I agree exactly.

Nonetheless, I still say no-lynch is the way to go. If there are 4 mafioso then we can't afford a mislynch today as that would leave us tied 4:4 tomorrow, thus we would lose. On the other hand, if we no-lynch today then the auxes would get another round of night actions, as well as increase the odds of lynching a mafioso. (Chance that a random lynchee is a mafia today = 4/10; chance tomorrow after a no-lynch = 4/9) We really have nothing to lose by postponing the lynch.

Vote no lynch

0_o wrote:

Nonetheless, I still say no-lynch is the way to go. If there are 4 mafioso then we can't afford a mislynch today as that would leave us tied 4:4 tomorrow, thus we would lose. On the other hand, if we no-lynch today then the auxes would get another round of night actions, as well as increase the odds of lynching a mafioso. (Chance that a random lynchee is a mafia today = 4/10; chance tomorrow after a no-lynch = 4/9) We really have nothing to lose by postponing the lynch.

Vote no lynch

How are you so certain that there's 4 mafia? :<

If you're wrong, we'll certainly lose an innocent overnight, while there was originally still room for error. In my opinion, it's not too hard to nail the Mafia by taking educated votes, we can't just sit around and let some people get killed until the odds are greater.

Kitsunemimi wrote:

0_o wrote:

Nonetheless, I still say no-lynch is the way to go. If there are 4 mafioso then we can't afford a mislynch today as that would leave us tied 4:4 tomorrow, thus we would lose. On the other hand, if we no-lynch today then the auxes would get another round of night actions, as well as increase the odds of lynching a mafioso. (Chance that a random lynchee is a mafia today = 4/10; chance tomorrow after a no-lynch = 4/9) We really have nothing to lose by postponing the lynch.

Vote no lynch

How are you so certain that there's 4 mafia? :<

If you're wrong, we'll certainly lose an innocent overnight, while there was originally still room for error. In my opinion, it's not too hard to nail the Mafia by taking educated votes, we can't just sit around and let some people get killed until the odds are greater.

It's a game of "Do I chicken out or do I keep on?"

Educated guesses seem the best at the moment, but in my standpoint, there's no one to vote for. I agree with faceman's approach, even if it's not the best way to go at it at the moment.

unvote
vote no lynch

Kitsunemimi wrote:

How are you so certain that there's 4 mafia? :< If you're wrong, we'll certainly lose an innocent overnight, while there was originally still room for error.

I'm actually leaning towards there being 3 mafia, but I'm preparing for the worst case scenario. The townies need an odd number of players, so even if there are 3 mafia a no-lynch would still be beneficial since we would have to do it at SOME point.

In my opinion, it's not too hard to nail the Mafia by taking educated votes

You mean like our last two lynches? Sure there is skill in spotting the mafia, but there definitely IS luck involved and no matter how you look at it we have a better chance picking a mafia member out of 9 people than 10

we can't just sit around and let some people get killed until the odds are greater.

An innocent is going be killed tomorrow whether we lynch someone or not. If there are 4 mafia then we only have one shot - a no lynch would only move us closer to the target before shooting.

The biggest problem with educated guesses, Harris, is that half the players haven't even been playing, iMuffin even explicitly stated he wasn't really paying attention.

You can't expect an educated guess when we have nothing to educate ourselves with.

Vote: no one

No need to explain.

Vote: no lynch

So band wagon vote? K

unvote
Vote no lynch

No lynch has been hammered. (if that's possible) Waiting for NoHitter to respond...

I think he mentioned he was away until the 30th, not sure.

He said he might have internet access before then.

pinoy internet
simply the best

winner.jpg

Well I don't want to look weird either so
Unvote
Vote: no lynch

Kitsunemimi wrote:

Well I don't want to look weird either so
Unvote
Vote: no vote

I'm gonna vote you tomorrow.

Wojjan wrote:

Kitsunemimi wrote:

Well I don't want to look weird either so
Unvote
Vote: no vote

I'm gonna vote you tomorrow.

you're joking right

Ignoring my retarded typo, what's wrong with what I said? I kinda just don't want my name listed randomly beside iMuffin's because I decided not to change my opinion in the end. I'll mostly go with what other people agree on, unless I think there's something wrong about it.

Kitsunemimi wrote:

I'll mostly go with what other people agree on, unless I think there's something wrong about it.

Errrr... right...

[not a player]
Are you guys bad enough dude to beat this player analysis? (not mine but whoa.)
[/not a player]

via MafiaWiki:

Deputy
A Deputy is a role that begins as a Vanilla Townie with no knowledge of their special role. Once the Cop has 'died', the Deputy will be notified and can choose to 'retrieve' the results of that Cop's investigations. If there is more than one Cop, the deputy usually can only get the results of one of the Cop's investigations, so they must choose wisely.
Variations
A common variant is that the Deputy will begin the game with knowledge of his role (often called a Retired Cop). Whether or not the player knows about his abilities at the game's start is usually dependent on the moderator.

Okay well apart from SEVERE disappointment there was no night 3 pm to us SHAME ON NOHITTER

we lost a backup cop which means we still have an actual cop. In the best case. This doesn't seem like uneventful awaitiance mafia in the least.

So, potential lylo, replacement cop down. Whaddawedo guys? I say the cop can claim about now, and we sleuth our way from there.

But copper, hold your horse for just a second. I'd like to hear everyone's biggest FOSes. No votes yet seeing as that would only sprout OMGUS votes seeing as we're still in a semirandom voting stage.

My biggest fos right now is on, as I already said, Harris. His play seems far from fitting for a regular townie, and certain sentences kind of tick me off about him. I'll reread through the thread sometime to pluck out exactly those that did.

Er, Wojjan, who's Harris?
Anyway, I said I was FOSing pieguy yesterday, I'm not at all certain though. Considering he roleclaimed cop yesterday, I reckon he should probably tell us what his results were last night?

Mashley wrote:

Er, Wojjan, who's Harris?

Going through the thread and making up a spreadsheet right now, I'll have comments sometime soon.

Shit. I thought for sure dkun was Mafia...

Alright, after an hour of reading/spreadsheeting, I believe pieguy, E-Hooker and Wojjan are innocent. pieguy and Wojjan because they have both seriously accused/been accused by almost everyone alive right now, and to me it doesn't seem likely that they are teamed up with anyone. E-Hooker because:
a) pieguy said so and I believe him
b) if pieguy WAS lying it seems more likely that he would clear a real townie instead of a fellow mafia, since if he were lynched it could heap a LOT of suspicion on the cleared person.

I am leaning towards Bakaloid being town just because I have a good feeling about his posts, but I don't really have any empirical evidence to back it up with so I'm not as confident there.
--
EDIT: Whoops. Alright, so I mentally cleared him on Day 2 for being the first to agree with me about my DxS suspicions (which I was really sure about at the time), but after DxS flipped town I forgot to start considering him again. Looking through his posts again (from an unbiased perspective), there really isn't much to show his innocence.

So I suppose the only thing to really take from this post now is who I believe ISN'T mafia.
--
This leaves Quaraezha, Kitsunemimi, Mashley and iMuffin. None of them have shown much suspicion at all for each other (they DID gang up on iMuffin yesterday, so that could mean that iMuffin is innocent or they were trying to make themselves look good by voting a mafioso out), so by process of elimination I believe that three, or maybe all of them are mafia. If there are only 3 then I think iMuffin is the more likely one to turn town, but yeah.

Of all those players you suspect iMuffin is most likely to flip "bored townie who didn't get an aux role"

THIS IS NOT AN ACTUAL ROLE

0_o wrote:

This leaves Quaraezha, Kitsunemimi, Mashley and iMuffin. None of them have shown much suspicion at all for each other (they DID gang up on iMuffin yesterday, so that could mean that iMuffin is innocent or they were trying to make themselves look good by voting a mafioso out), so by process of elimination I believe that three, or maybe all of them are mafia.

The thing about each of these people though (and you too faceman), is that nobody really said anything about them in the first place. I personally always feel that if there's nothing too weird going on, it's safer to not get too involved. So when you base your suspicions on the comments I've made so far, it may sort of seem like I'm just neutral with a bunch of people, when I really can't determine who's good or bad.

But now that you mention it, I can sort of see what you're getting on to.
I agree with the people you've said who're innocent. E-Hooker kinda kept quiet like the rest of us, but I believe in pieguy as well.

iMuffin's previous few comments were each weird. iMuffin, I don't know if that's just your way of coping with everyone being suspicious of you, but I'd prefer if you tried being more honest with the rest of us, instead of giving us vague randomness.
...And most if not all of his previous posts were bandwagon votes.

Mashley's comments all seemed pretty normal... and nobody really said anything about him so I can't tell if he's bad or not either.

For some reason, I just feel like BakaloidSky is just... meh. But look, that time when pieguy voted for Bakaloid, he made a single response to that, and he sounded so certain that he was going to get lynched. Also, his guesses for who the Mafia also seem pretty random. It's like he chose the people who had that kind of... "mafia" personality... I'm not sure. It might be something someone would do if they're under pressure.

And Quaraezha... He made a whole bunch of weird comments at the beginning, and once everyone switched targets off him, he got all quiet. His last few posts were bandwagon posts. Because of this, it makes him pretty damn suspicious already, but it's going to an extent where he might just be nub.

Anyways, I think the three are iMuffin, Quaraezha, and Bakaloid (mostly Bakaloid), and I'm not too sure about faceman. I'm not too sure about Mashley either, but we'll see.

faceman you seem to be trying very hard to get all the attention off yourself and out of everyone here you haven't really brought under suspicion as everyone else has.

so i'm going to Vote: O_o

Hey there iMuffin. I see you're online.

...

<_<

iMuffin wrote:

faceman you seem to be trying very hard to get all the attention off yourself and out of everyone here you haven't really brought under suspicion as everyone else has.

Err... what? First of all how is posting my opinions of everyone getting attention off myself, and secondly what attention? You said yourself I have hardly been accused at all; there really wasn't any attention on me to begin with.

so i'm going to Vote: O_o

*0_o

EDIT: Also I'm gonna do another readthrough to see if I can get a better tell on Bakaloid, brb
EDITEDIT: Updated my original post.

sorry typo, also again i accuse you and you are immediately put on the defensive, like very defensive. You are a little too good at staying out of the light, and scum doesn't like light very well.

iMuffin wrote:

sorry typo, also again i accuse you and you are immediately put on the defensive, like very defensive. You are a little too good at staying out of the light, and scum doesn't like light very well.

So basically I'm suspicious for not being suspicious enough.

Ok

0_o wrote:

iMuffin wrote:

sorry typo, also again i accuse you and you are immediately put on the defensive, like very defensive. You are a little too good at staying out of the light, and scum doesn't like light very well.

So basically I'm suspicious for not being suspicious enough.

Ok

for someone who doesn't take me seriously in the first place, my accusations seem to bother you quite a bit.

iMuffin wrote:

for someone who doesn't take me seriously in the first place, my accusations seem to bother you quite a bit.

More like annoy, actually.

sorry if I haven't been able to post lately.

I'll get straight to the point and put my FOS on Mashley.
been lurking for some time to see how things turn out. And I don't have anything to post either.

FOS on Mashley, Kitsunemimi and pieguy.
I don't like how Mashley voted for lynch on the first two days and voted for no lynch on the 3rd day. On the 3rd day he seemed almost determined to have no lynch. which only made me suspicious.

and on this

Kitsunemimi wrote:

Also, his guesses for who the Mafia also seem pretty random. It's like he chose the people who had that kind of... "mafia" personality... I'm not sure.

The people there are the ones who voted for lynch in the first two days.
I maybe just paranoid, but what the hell.

BakaloidSky wrote:

sorry if I haven't been able to post lately.

I'll get straight to the point and put my FOS on Mashley.
been lurking for some time to see how things turn out. And I don't have anything to post either.

FOS on Mashley, Kitsunemimi and pieguy.
I don't like how Mashley voted for lynch on the first two days and voted for no lynch on the 3rd day. On the 3rd day he seemed almost determined to have no lynch. which only made me suspicious.

He didn't make a vote on the third day. He didn't even mention anything about no lynch. He didn't make a vote on the first day either.

And a lot of people voted on the first two days, and no lynch on the third day. I don't see what you're trying to say here.

Kitsunemimi wrote:

BakaloidSky wrote:

sorry if I haven't been able to post lately.

I'll get straight to the point and put my FOS on Mashley.
been lurking for some time to see how things turn out. And I don't have anything to post either.

FOS on Mashley, Kitsunemimi and pieguy.
I don't like how Mashley voted for lynch on the first two days and voted for no lynch on the 3rd day. On the 3rd day he seemed almost determined to have no lynch. which only made me suspicious.

He didn't make a vote on the third day. He didn't even mention anything about no lynch. He didn't make a vote on the first day either.

And a lot of people voted on the first two days, and no lynch on the third day. I don't see what you're trying to say here.

Mashley didn't vote on Day 1 either. On top of that you (Bakaloid) also voted for a no lynch on Day 3. But even if he did everything you said he did, what's so suspicious about that? Don't get me wrong, I think Mashley has a good shot at turning up mafia as well, but your reasoning doesn't make much sense.

Errrr, guys, you've got me all wrong. On days 1 and 3 I voted for rust45 and iMuffin respectively, but NoHItter didn't count my votes.

faceman does complete analysis of game, accuses iMuffin of being mafioso, iMuffin votes faceman

HMMMM

I actually feel pretty confident enough right now to say Kitsunemimi is mafia, and the majority of FOSes seem to agree. If we're dealing with a crazy mafia bandwagon, well played I guess, but I'm dang sure he's a safe go.

I would be content with voting for Kitsunemimi today (though I would be equally fine with voting Quar or Mashley), but first I want to hear pieguy's results from last night, if any (there's probably a pretty good chance he was roleblocked, but just in case).

0_o wrote:

pieguy's results

Where did he claim cop?

EDIT: Nevermind. Found it.

I'll bet Wojjan just hates me

...And probably a bunch of other people but me especially

E-Hooker wrote:

faceman does complete analysis of game, accuses iMuffin of being mafioso, iMuffin votes faceman

HMMMM

actually if you actually read it he said that he didn't really suspect me.

To anyone FOS'ing me: I claimed cop earlier and no one counterclaimed, so that should be a good enough defense right there.

0_o wrote:

I would be content with voting for Kitsunemimi today (though I would be equally fine with voting Quar or Mashley), but first I want to hear pieguy's results from last night, if any (there's probably a pretty good chance he was roleblocked, but just in case).

Yes, I got roleblocked.

I'm still suspicious of BakaloidSky due to my "baseless" reasoning earlier, but I'm also suspicious of Kitsunemimi for basically the same reason everyone said. Once I stop being lazy I'll do a better analysis and probably vote someone, but who knows when that will be.

Okay so it's paramount the doc doesn't claim at all. At all.
Be aware that a similar role to the deputy for a doctor (I think it's called a Nurse?) may exist. Don't freak out the moment our doc dies.

/prod Quaraezha retracted

You and Mashley, who are your FOS's right now, and who would you lynch today if you had to choose right now?

To be honest at this point, from my perspective at least, almost anyone could flip mafia. Errrr... well, I'll post my thoughts on everyone alive. Sorry if I get stuff wrong, I'm going mostly off what I can remember.

pieguy1372 I previously had suspicions about, but as he pointed out no one counter-claimed when he claimed cop. So I'm pretty sure he is the cop.
Quaraezha posts a lot of vague stuff and his behaviour seems quite odd. Maybe he's just a terrible player, idk, but I think it's fair to put a FOS on him.
Kitsunemimi seems to be the main centre of suspicion at the moment, and I can kind of see where that's coming from but afaik no one's posted any concrete reasoning for their suspicion and it really seems like a 'hunch'. I'll wait and see before pointing fingers.
BakaloidSky has really blended into the background during the game and his reasoning is very weak. Quite a strong FOS on this guy.
0_o has been fairly quiet for most of the game but he's suddenly become very active since the start of day 4. I have a hunch that this guy is either mafia or a powerful aux.
iMuffin just seems like he doesn't care. Wojjan said that he seems like a bored townie, and I could definitely see that being the truth, but I am watching him still.
E-Hooker was confirmed townie by pieguy - though there is the chance that pieguy's some kind of insane cop, that's quite unlikely so I guess I'd have to agree that he's almost certainly a townie.
Wojjan I know is a damn good player, and while he hasn't said anything suspicious, I know not to trust him

er.... that's all, folks

Come to think of it, aside from the randomness on the first day, nobody was really ever suspicious of Wojjan. Or they just never said anything.

Meh. I got nothin'.

i've already thrown my vote into the box, so you know my suspicions.

but other people i'm looking at are Wojan and Kitsu

Alrighty, I have all the info I need I think.

vote Kitsunemimi

tbh I'd rather go with Mashley, but that's based more on my gut than anything, so seeing as Kitsune is probably my second pick I'm willing to go with the general consensus.

vote: Mimi. Yay.

okey bandwagon time

vote: Kitsunemimi

that name change confused me for a second lol

well might as well hammer kitsu in

Unvote
Vote: Kitsunemimi

Holy crap ._.

Okay, I really don't understand what I posted about that makes me so suspicious. Like, really, I'm just trying to contribute. You can't possibly expect EACH and EVERY single one of my posts to be well thought out and thorough.

There are four people alive who haven't made any sort of active contribution/had concrete proof that their innocent. They're just bandwagoning along, and somehow everyone's more suspicious of me than they are of them. For your information, this is indeed my first time playing, so I might've said something odd once or twice. I'm just trying to figure out who the bad guys are.

I don't know why you all hate me so much, but I'm going to go ahead and vote cookiezi Kokizi, because he's simply been ignored, and he's still suspicious in my eyes, and he totally just bandwagon'd on me.

................ And plus, Muffin, Kokizi and E-Hooker, I'll bet you guys don't even know WHY you're voting for me. You're just there so that you can eliminate all the townies. You better get some concrete reasoning and get your thinking straight here, because I don't want the mafia to win just because I said something weird somewhere or some shit.

gj hammering someone without a good reason again guys... not saying I think he's innocent but I do think you should've thought this through a little more before you all bandwagoned on him. We'll see, I guess