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#filipino chat op/sectional moderator [Denied]

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This is a feature request. Feature requests can be voted up by supporters.
Current Priority: +56
Topic Starter
dkun
I (being the community and myself) believe it's come for the time that #filipino needs its own chat op and perhaps a sectional moderator for the forums.
Times are changing, and #filipino is steadily rising in numbers and activity. As activity takes a rise, so has spammers and the need for a steady moderation presence in the channel that's actually active and well in-depth with the #filipino community. If an incident ever comes up (which has been happening quite often recently), we have to translate most of the material for a current chat op to read, which I believe is a hassle for any op in general.

As the thread title says, we'd also like to request a forum moderator to be able to control how the flow of posts go, and to increase activity there, since natives are a bit shy to post anything, since no one has the power to control anything, and if an incident ever does come up, we have to contact and translate the said problem (as noted above with chat).

Now, before you mention James...
He's the same case as #dutch's mrtn. I believe James is busy with his life and doesn't have the time to tender for us with moderation.


Give us a chance before you say no.

Para sa mga Filipino:
Sa tingin ko, kailangan natin ng isang tao na mg mo-moderate sa #filipino at yun sub-forum natin, hindi ba?

Lumalaki na tayo sa mga numero natin, at ng i-increase rin ang mga spammers at ibang bahat na tao na hindi natin gusto, parang yun mga random na German at Chinese pumapasok at akala nila yun channel natin, ay channel nila.

Kailangan natin ng isang moderator, kasi nakaka inis pag ng gamit natin ang !report, at kailangan pa ipa-translate ang log para maka gawa sila ng anong action.

Hindi ba? Pa support na lang ito. :)
Zekira
Give us a chance before you say no.
Tanong lang dito is kung kita nila tayo... lol...
Topic Starter
dkun

Zekira wrote:

Give us a chance before you say no.
Tanong lang dito is kung kita nila tayo... lol...
Magagawa din yan. Kailangan ko lang ang approval ng mga #filipino. :)
Pizzicato
thumbs up
Raider24
hmmm... this might be useful. :)+1 vote here o/

Raider24 likes this.
MDuh
support support!
but then again, no more star to add D:<
Topic Starter
dkun

MDuh wrote:

support support!
but then again, no more star to add D:<
sabihin mo na.
kailang ba mag re-reset ang mga stars natin eh. :(
jockeytiyan

dkun wrote:

MDuh wrote:

support support!
but then again, no more star to add D:<
sabihin mo na.
kailang ba mag re-reset ang mga stars natin eh. :(
Matagal pa yan. Anyways, I have no stars to offer. :<
thOnz
+1 dkun =)
Vinchie_old
ok as you said.. +1 for you :)
Topic Starter
dkun
astig ang mga pinoys.

:)
blacksymbian
+2 stars alang alang sa Ate Black!!
xFreezingx
I think this is a good step.
Galkan
Have my vote on that.

Side note: I also would like to request the chat op for #polish, same reason as dkun mentioned: sometimes it's too much of explaining and/or translating why someone should get silenced.
Topic Starter
dkun
That's surprising.

Thanks for the support Galkan! :)
Sander-Don
i support this request ;D
arien666
Although I don't have any votes but
I would support this opinion :3

inb4, Filipine MAT for Zekira orz
NoHitter
I support this. (but I have no stars...)
I remember when #filipino was just quiet and only 3-5 people chatted in it, but now it really has expanded.
On a sidenote, I would say, dkun or jockeytiyan should be the mods. (I would also shamelessly nominate myself, but nah)
James
I approve. However. I dont approve the following people:

jockey
nohitter
zekira
kirino_kousaka

I want someone who is strict and is not a troll. Even if he/she is from another country as long as he/she understands and speaks the language. The moderator-to-be should have an avatar as cute as I have. 8-)
jockeytiyan

James wrote:

I approve. However. I dont approve the following people:

jockey
nohitter
zekira
kirino_kousaka
I win! \o/
Ephemeral
meh we'll just make ztrot your channel op
dkun can teach him the language
Topic Starter
dkun
/facepalm
NoHitter
Since when have I been a troll :|
ztrot
Sige Ephemeral, pwede ako mag mod ng #filipino, pero gusto ko ng GMT. :P
jockeytiyan

Ephemeral wrote:

meh we'll just make ztrot your channel op
dkun can teach him the language

He barely pays attention to the channel. >_>

I usually highlight Derek since he seems to respond the fastest and it still takes him some time before taking action...
ztrot
Sorry naman jockey, yun tunayng bahay ko ay #modhelp, pero pwede din ako mag moderate sa #filipino! :?
Shiirn

James wrote:

I want someone who is strict and is not a troll.

James wrote:

strict

James wrote:

not a troll.

Ephemeral wrote:

ztrot
Uh, sir
jockeytiyan

Shiirn wrote:

James wrote:

I want someone who is strict and is not a troll.

James wrote:

strict

James wrote:

not a troll.

Ephemeral wrote:

ztrot
Uh, sir
icwudt
RemmyX25
You guys do realize there's a !report function to bring a problem to us, right?
Topic Starter
dkun

RemmyX25 wrote:

You guys do realize there's a !report function to bring a problem to us, right?
You do realize how tedious it is to translate an entire log for a chat op to comprehend the language, right?
RemmyX25

dkun wrote:

RemmyX25 wrote:

You guys do realize there's a !report function to bring a problem to us, right?
You do realize how tedious it is to translate an entire log for a chat op to comprehend the language, right?
That's why you just translate the important parts, and/or try to resolve a problem before it gets ugly?
Topic Starter
dkun

RemmyX25 wrote:

dkun wrote:

You do realize how tedious it is to translate an entire log for a chat op to comprehend the language, right?
That's why you just translate the important parts, and/or try to resolve a problem before it gets ugly?
I've been doing this along with jockey for the god knows how long, and imho, our userbase is large enough to have a separate op, don't you think this?

It's hard to resolve a problem without a prominent figurehead to look above to that understands and comprehend the language. Tagalog is a bit confusing as well, since when we translate, sometimes words don't have a direct translation, and we have to improvise. I mean, I do use report, and I go to a moderator personally first before initiating a report so I don't have to bug the entire #bat channel, but I think it's time for someone of our own.
jockeytiyan

RemmyX25 wrote:

You guys do realize there's a !report function to bring a problem to us, right?
You do realize that nobody ever responded to my countless !reports. Ask dkun or anyone in the channel and they'll agree with me. If you want further proof, I always contact Derek because he responds first.
RemmyX25
I'm usually always hanging around #bat but i've very rarely seen a #filipino report. (maybe once but that was when i was either in class or running out the door)
jockeytiyan

RemmyX25 wrote:

I'm usually always hanging around #bat but i've very rarely seen a #filipino report. (maybe once but that was when i was either in class or running out the door)
I've made a lot of reports but none these past few days. Just saying.

Also, dkun wants to point out the timezone difference. As both of you are in the US and your time is almost the same as his, I could say one thing: Things happen when you guys are offline.
Topic Starter
dkun

jockeytiyan wrote:

RemmyX25 wrote:

I'm usually always hanging around #bat but i've very rarely seen a #filipino report. (maybe once but that was when i was either in class or running out the door)
I've made a lot of reports but none these past few days. Just saying.

Also, dkun wants to point out the timezone difference. As both of you are in the US and your time is almost than same as his, I could say one thing: Things happen when you guys are offline.
/nocturnal
:)
Erika Sendou_old
Sup!
Kirino Kousaka

James wrote:

I approve. However. I dont approve the following people:

jockey
nohitter
zekira
kirino_kousaka

I want someone who is strict and is not a troll. Even if he/she is from another country as long as he/she understands and speaks the language. The moderator-to-be should have an avatar as cute as I have. 8-)
Why Kuya James? Why? [lol drama] is my name there? :o I'm not a subscriber and a strong player like jockey. I'm not a mapping dude or a MAT like NoHItter, And I'm not a strong Taiko dude like Zekira. [correct me if I'm wrong with those] Just a Normal player like the others I won't mention them, they're many.

SPOILER
I'll do everything I can to be the op! [I'm still wondering it is called op] I'll be strict! I'm totally not a Troll![I don't even know what is a troll, I only know the troll.png which looks crazy] I say no to spam! I'll kill spammers and trolls! And I'll try to be cute as you! [the last part sounds idiotic though lol] Oh please! I really want to be a chat moderator!!! I'll do everything! :cry: [that's possible][wag pong pilosopo]
Galkan

RemmyX25 wrote:

You guys do realize there's a !report function to bring a problem to us, right?
You do realize how annoying it is to call someone else very often (especially if they won't give a single damn) while we could fix problem ourselves instantly?
Topic Starter
dkun
astig ninyo lahat eh.

para sa mga pinoys. :)
jockeytiyan
Peace ho!
Pizzicato

dkun wrote:

astig ninyo lahat eh.

para sa mga pinoys. :)
jockeytiyan

Pizzicatto wrote:

dkun wrote:

astig ninyo lahat eh.

para sa mga pinoys. :)
I think my screen got cracked. Can't resist brofisting. ><
Zekira

NoHItter wrote:

Since when have I been a troll :|
Guess we'll forever be regarded as such now :/
jockeytiyan

Zekira wrote:

NoHItter wrote:

Since when have I been a troll :|
Guess we'll forever be regarded as such now :/
Really, don't mind him. As much as his serious tone is there, you guys are no trolls as far as I'm concerned.
Zekira
Not anymore at least (if there was even any in NH's case since I'm pretty sure I have never seen him like that, ever)
jockeytiyan

Zekira wrote:

Not anymore at least (if there was even any in NH's case since I'm pretty sure I have never seen him like that, ever)
You don't. Period. :V
Sander-Don
when am i gonna have my pooting votes back.
jockeytiyan

Sander-Don wrote:

when am i gonna have my pooting votes back.
^ :<
Derekku
Please don't go off-topic. xpp

Anyway, we're really not looking to add new chat ops at the moment. Many channels want one, but people don't realize that having a moderator won't magically stop spam/bad behavior. A moderator can't be around 24/7 anyway, and thus the only advantage/pro is that the mod fluently speaks the language. If more people would properly use the !report command and let us know of repeat offenders, then we would be able to easily deal with them.
Topic Starter
dkun
:cry:

Derekku wrote:

Many channels want one, but people don't realize that having a moderator won't magically stop spam/bad behavior.
Many channels want one, but out of those requests, which one has the most reasoning behind it? Which one has the most support from the language it's based on? I know it won't magically stop spam/bad behavior, but it'll certainly work against it in better ways (as the natives know that no one in the channel speaks it fluently, as currently, the person closest to that is ztrot, but he's a novice at it).

Derekku wrote:

A moderator can't be around 24/7 anyway, and thus the only advantage/pro is that the mod fluently speaks the language.
A mod can't be around 24/7, sure, but #filipino's peak times is static since it's summer vacation at the moment there.

Derekku wrote:

If more people would properly use the !report command and let us know of repeat offenders, then we would be able to easily deal with them.
The entire purpose of the thread was to nullify !report and to have someone that knows the language in general in the channel as an active presence.
I've been having to go to ztrot and having to personally translate parts of logs that he doesn't understand for offenders, since whenever I call an op in using !report, the op won't just act upon what I/we say, but it has to be broken down into the reporter taking the log, translating the entire log, and sending it back, which takes several minutes to do.
Galkan

Derekku wrote:

Please don't go off-topic. xpp

Anyway, we're really not looking to add new chat ops at the moment. Many channels want one, but people don't realize that having a moderator won't magically stop spam/bad behavior. A moderator can't be around 24/7 anyway, and thus the only advantage/pro is that the mod fluently speaks the language. If more people would properly use the !report command and let us know of repeat offenders, then we would be able to easily deal with them.
Isn't !report a last-chance method?
Yes, moderator can't be for 24/7 but if they would be online for most time of the day (or at least being active at all) - it helped a lot (not full stop for retards, but still fast and effective barrier).
As I said before - it's a lot easier to deal with idiots by ourselves than to call foreign op and translating bunch of text (or sometimes wait endlessly for an answer)
jockeytiyan

Derekku wrote:

If more people would properly use the !report command and let us know of repeat offenders, then we would be able to easily deal with them.
I really can't say that much but the problem is that most of the time, we just end up bugging OPs (and you should know because I do this to you...) instead of waiting for a response to our !report where it always ends up getting ignored.

Correct me if I said anything wrong, pls.
dvorak_old
Okay, just remind.

・ channels are not for specific person or group (no exception for who have op), the invader is actual spammer?
  
・ There is /ignore username command for osu client now. You can use both !report and /ignore for. works well?
Topic Starter
dkun

dvorak wrote:

Okay, just remind.

・ channels are not for specific person or group (no exception for who have op), the invader is actual spammer?
  
・ There is /ignore username command for osu client now. You can use both !report and /ignore for. works well?
I don't understand your first point.

I know there is an ignore command, I've played this game for quite some time as well, you know. But that's not the point I'm trying the emphasize with this.
Lilac
I believe dvorak was trying to say that language specific channels aren't just for the channel's native language as the room name suggests and that anyone is able to access it, regardless of where you live or what you speak. But I don't know...

...I do see that #filipino is getting larger and larger, no doubt. In terms of it needing a mod...Well, it depends on how previous foreign OP attempts have been. If this topic has any sense whatsoever, it seems that previous OP enforcement have probably been less than 50% successful. However, I don't have the full picture as of yet.

IOW, there definitely will be an OP in the future for #filipino, no debate there. It's just a matter of when and the circumstances of how one is going to be brought up.
Claudia_old
Yeah, on the !report thing, last time I used it, it was completely ignored. And it was in #osu, on a busy day. There honestly COULD NOT HAVE BEEN a single op paying attention.

If #osu is ignored, then how will the smaller [but growing] channels such as #filipino fair?

DKUN FOR OP. Or at least, somebody.
jockeytiyan

Lilac wrote:

I believe dvorak was trying to say that language specific channels aren't just for the channel's native language as the room name suggests and that anyone is able to access it, regardless of where you live or what you speak. But I don't know...
Actually, we have non-natives over the channel like Danzai, Sander, Kyonko, and others. So I guess, argument out.


Lilac wrote:

...I do see that #filipino is getting larger and larger, no doubt. In terms of it needing a mod...Well, it depends on how previous foreign OP attempts have been. If this topic has any sense whatsoever, it seems that previous OP enforcement have probably been less than 50% successful. However, I don't have the full picture as of yet.
So it all boils down to mod activity? o.o
I might've misunderstood. I'm not that proficient in English as others. ><


Lilac wrote:

IOW, there definitely will be an OP in the future for #filipino, no debate there. It's just a matter of when and the circumstances of how one is going to be brought up.
No doubt about this but the problem is when... It's pretty hard to manage a very active channel (at specific times) where we always get flooded with messages every now and then. On top of that, spammers and trolls crash in at times.


EDIT: If we can't be given an OP, at least give us a forum mod. But it would be good to still get both. ><
Mara
#filipino needs OP because I am there.



I'd like to vote, but I don't have any votes left at the moment.
Zekira
@jockey: The chat is much, much more populated than the forum at the moment



...
jockeytiyan

LunaticMara wrote:

#filipino needs OP because I am there.

^ omg this

@Zekira: Actually, we have more lurkers in the forums than in the channel.
Zekira
...because lurkers totally contribute to activity. How could I forget... [/sarcasm]
jockeytiyan

Zekira wrote:

...because lurkers totally contribute to activity. How could I forget... [/sarcasm]

Zekira wrote:

@jockey: The chat is much, much more populated than the forum at the moment
Nope, nothing about activity mentioned here. :D
Zekira
By 'populated' I meant the amount of text, not the users. (i probably should have clarified it first :/)
Topic Starter
dkun
So #russian and #italian have gained ops recently. (on top of the number of ops they already have)

No love for us?
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