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Saiya & Noir & Korosuke - Koigokoro

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Bodzio
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 1 lipca 2012 at 19:59:58

Artist: Saiya & Noir & Korosuke
Title: Koigokoro
Tags: Sena Ima Nao Sakagami Komugi Tsukishima exit trance Gotori Lucent Heart
BPM: 140
Filesize: 3732kb
Play Time: 02:35
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (2,82 stars, 206 notes)
  2. Gotori's Normal (4,13 stars, 320 notes)
  3. Hard (4,94 stars, 510 notes)
Download: Saiya & Noir & Korosuke - Koigokoro
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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First map trying to get ranked
levesterz
everything fine for me (just abit confusing for easy)
thr1ve
Modded trough IRC. :)
Natteke
Remove that approach circle.
rEdo
modding because bobek instigated me to. :>

[Hard]
0:03:310 (2, 3) - both one box below
{ 0:10:596 (4) - one box to the right
{ 0:11:239 (5) - one box to the left and one higher
0:15:096 (5) - one box to the right?
0:25:167 (10) - one box to the left
[...]
i can mention things like that for a long time :) just take a close look at the whole map and ask yourself if the space between the circles remains the same, self-modding is a best way to improve your map as well as your mapping skills :)
except those, also:
0:02:453 (1) - move first white sliderbox by three boxes to the right and two higher, the second one by three boxes higher, and just delete the third one. in that way the slider should look way better ;)

[bobek's flow~]
0:23:667 (3) - i found those sliders pretty peculiar, please keep that in mind if someone else will mention that too
1:00:953 (3) - impossible to read
1:40:382 (2, 3, 4) - stack them with the end of previous slider

[Normal]
resnap all notes
0:27:096 (3) - spacing
0:29:560 (1) - too short spinner as for a normal, extend it's length 'til 0:30:953. also, shouldn't it start at the white tick?
0:33:525 (1) - i guess you found out. :P
1:39:525 (8) - spacing
1:42:953 (4) - spacing
also, map this 'til the end, so the length of every difficulty is the same

[Easy]
0:20:667 (8) - that's a no-no on a easy difficulty. i suggest you shortening the slider to the closest white tick
spacing, in general. :P
map 'til the end, just like [Normal]


[General]:

Natteke wrote:

Remove that approach circle. +1
a lot of spacing issues, just take a look at the whole mapset and search for aesthetic errors. when you found something that's not satisfying you, just fix it. like i said before, self-modding is the best way to improve your maps. also, don't forget to ask others to mod them, of course ;)

k, good luck!
Sandpig
hi :D

(>'(oo)')> my mod <('(oo)'<)



Hard

I see no issues here because all notes are good snapped and hitsound is ok. But it plays a little boring, because notes are one after one. It seems that you use normal-sample to follow what the singer sings. And what you have during the Kiai Time are almost only 1/2 long sliders and circles.

00:50:882 (8) - remove one of the finish hitsounds from this slider. (you have many this kind of sliders that have 2 finish, it hears stiff)



Normal

where is normal? reupload it....


bobek's flow

same problem like that in Hard. I'd like to suggest you not use normal-sample to follow the music.

00:23:667 (3) - I don't think you need this kind of slider here...
00:39:525 (6) - ^
00:27:953 (1) - remove new combo
00:51:310 (5) - make it louder
01:34:167 (4) - ^
02:35:667 (4) - new combo


Easy

00:24:525 (5,6) - make them not touch each other, it may confuse the beginner.(rotate the slider)


good job in 1st map 8-)
hinakome
Hinakome star~!~!
Yusu Aoi
Hi^^ nice song :P
but maybe make the length of Easy, and bobek's flow like the Hard?
Temee
yyy...mleko.
Vass_Bass
Hi~
Sorry for long wait

General
Change BG on 1024 x 768

Easy
01:12:096 - add circle

Normal
00:02:239 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - spacing
don't like this long sliders

bobek's flow~
Good

Hard
00:02:239 (1) - sounds terrible, do it shorter (to the white stripe) and add circle after that
00:10:596 (4) - ^
02:09:096 - do soft sounds

work on the rhythm, it's important
Star
wmfchris
sayori BG <3

[bobek's flow~]
0:03:096 (3) down 1 grid
0:08:239 (7) up 1 grid
0:29:025 delete break?

[Hard]
normal hitsound too loud? :/
0:04:586 (2,3,4) down 1 grid
0:35:667 (4) left 1 grid
1:15:525 (5,6) stack proeprly
1:24:923 (3,4,5,6,7) ^
1:39:310 (2,3,4,5) ^
1:58:596 delte those short breaks?

[Normal]
0:05:667 (6) http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/43417 ?


try to check your spacing again, star~
Vass_Bass
Topic Starter
Bodzio
Wow that's fast
JoJo
Hi~Here is my mod~

[General]
mp3 quality - 320kbps to 128-192kbps

[Easy]
Oh my...There is too many circles I guess...><
That's a little boring,plz decrease the quantity of circles,and increase sliders.
Spacing is OK.

[Normal]
00:05:667(6)New combo.
00:10:810(6)^(And so on,check them by yourself.)
00:33:525(1)No new combo.
00:39:953(6)I don't like a slider almost across the whole screen like this...For example,maybe you can map this one as a slider with 3 reverses,without the length changing.You can do this,remember there are also some,check them by yourself.)
00:55:382(6)^
And,too many line sliders I guess....Try to change some to curve ones.

[bobek's flow]
00:33:096(1,2)Terrible.Hard to read.At least I don't like it.It looks like a slider of 1,isn't it?
02:13:596(3-5,1-5)Can you read them clearly?If not,plz change the mapping.Just personal view.

[VassBass's Hard]
00:42:953(4)Spacing?
01:30:953(10)Spacing?The same as 01:34:382.Maybe you can stack 9,10 together.That'll be better.
02:22:382(7)Spacing?If this is a jump,6,7 jump together will be better(1.5x plz,no 2.0x)

Good,star~
thr1ve

Joshua Lost wrote:

[bobek's flow]
00:33:096(1,2)Terrible.Hard to read.At least I don't like it.It looks like a slider of 1,isn't it? Ok. :)
02:13:596(3-5,1-5)Can you read them clearly?If not,plz change the mapping.Just personal view. Yes, I can read those clearly.
Gotori
star~
Tenshi-nyan
o hi~

Hard
00:42:739 (5,6) - this would look better like this01:46:596 (5,6) - 01:52:596 (3,4) - ^
01:53:025 (4,6) - ^ something similar.
02:21:096 (5) - make the slider round again.

bobek
00:37:596 (4) - why is this in soft?
01:34:167 (4) - ^
01:55:382 (x) - maybe add a note... with a finish
02:30:953 (4) - (Grid Level 4) - 2 down, 1 right

Normal
No hitsounds?
thr1ve

Tenshi-nyan wrote:

bobek
00:37:596 (4) - why is this in soft? Because, it's a background sound.
01:34:167 (4) - ^
01:55:382 (x) - maybe add a note... with a finish Did it.
02:30:953 (4) - (Grid Level 4) - 2 down, 1 right Did it. Thanks for the mod :)
James2250
Fairly long mod however some things are simply suggestions. Feel free to ignore things you disagree with

-You do not need to include anything in the tags that is already in the source/title/artist (also make sure to include every guest mappers name in tags on all difficulties
-That is alot of time to have kiai in a map, I suggest you try and cut some of that down (or just keep the fountains for some parts). Also try and keep kiai time the same on all of your difficulties
-Your mp3 is currently 320kbps, you will need to find one between 128-192kbps for it to get ranked
-Make sure to include a hitcircle approach circle in the folder even if it is just the default one
-It would be better if you could scale your background to a 4:3 size to make it look nicer
-Difficulty names don't really need ~ at the end of them, seems slightly odd to have it
-Don't have the pause overlay over 1024x768 (it is currently 1171x768)

Easy:
-Try and keep your claps following a consistent pattern, they seem to switch from following white ticks to red ticks and they become hard to follow
-At least OD+1, it does not need to be on the lowest setting for this song
-Does this difficulty need a BPM that is half of the other difficulties?
-Do not put kiai time during a break if possible
Pretty straightforward but all seems fine

Normal:
-Could be more enjoyable if not so linear, you could try and make some more creative patterns to keep it interesting
-Again double check your hitsounds (will point out a few)
00:20:239 (2,3,4) - why change clap pattern here?
00:21:953 (8,1) - space out more
00:35:239 (2) - clap should be on this note to follow previous pattern
00:43:382 (6,1) - try not to overlap to make it look neater
01:16:382 (1,1) - both new combos aren't really needed
01:36:524 (6,8) - try not to overlap
01:38:239 (7,8,9,10,1) - align these to look better?

bobek's flow:
-This is the only difficulty with a custom name?
-Don't have kiai during a break
00:08:239 (7) - kind of random clap
00:37:596 (4) - sounds too quiet compared to the notes around it in my opinion (same for other ones after this)
Would make more sense if the map ended where the other difficulties do or at 02:36:525

Vass_Bass's Hard:
01:43:382 (5,6) - avoid hidden repeats
02:34:167 (2,4) - might be nicer if these didn't overlap?

Hard:
-Don't have those long gaps between notes towards the end of the song, the HP Drain is too fast for stuff like that, either fill them in with breaks or add some notes there
-Odd having the difficulty with the largest score having much lower stats than the last difficulty, might want to try fixing that slightly
-Don't have kiai during a break
00:10:596 (4) - clap should go at the end of this to follow your pattern (and get rid of the clap after this)
01:26:239 (6,8) - would look better if not touching
Map is nice but you need to finish adding hitsounds to some nonkiai parts of it

Needs some more improvements before I can give this a star, once you fix all the issues that are in the folder and clean up your hitsounds slightly it should look pretty good~
Selee
Since James hasn't got his kds, and you haven't fix anything I refuse to mod this..lol

PM me later if you fix what James said 8-)
Topic Starter
Bodzio
Last i just didn't have many free time to make changes in map
Selee
[General]
..sigh..resize like James said?

I can do it for you..Also there are some original BG you can consider... http://lh.gamania.co.jp/news/etc/lh_unit/special.aspx


Source: Lucent Heart

Tags: Add "Sena Imai", "Nao Sakagami", "Komugi Tsukishima" (Character name) delete "Saiya Noir Korosuke Koigokoro" (Already in artist/title)

Remove some kiai?

[Easy]

Change the first part to soft sample?

00:31:382~00:45:096 (T) - also 2 4 whiteline clap for this part?

02:09:096~02:22:810 (T) - 2 4 whiteline soft-whistle?

Sigh, the arrangement pattern makes me feel bored...

[bobek's flow~]

00:28:382 (6,7,8) - 100% volume+finish for these 3 note? sounds awkward if only 8 is 100%...
00:33:739 (3) - try clap end? and 00:34:382 (4) - clap?
00:37:596 (4) - I suggest 0.5~0.75x BPM would make a better effect.
00:51:310 (5) - ^
01:02:239 (1) - Remove whistle at reverse?
01:39:953 (1,2,3,4) - Stacking (Use 0.0x spacing and disable grid snap)

[Hard]

I agree with what James said...Also it's really weird to have small circle for this arrangement pattern..so try circle size-1 HP-3 AR-2 OD-3?...sigh nvm...but at least circle size+1...

The arrangement/sliders' shape look really bad...whatever..

00:52:596 (3,4,5) - really hard to read.. make like this?

[Vass_Bass's Hard]

well, nothing to complain...

tar ~


Topic Starter
Bodzio

Selee wrote:

[General]
..sigh..resize like James said?
i fixed it but probally i forgot to upload D:
Kasen
Nice song, i like it.
You can take some tags from here http://osu.ppy.sh/s/25299 mine is almost dead.
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ise77777
nice map!! :)
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