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Naoki Miki(CV.Takahashi Rie) & Ebisuzawa Kurumi(CV.Ozawa Ari

posted 2016-09-12T10:03:01+00:00

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Elasia

Joined December 2010

Elasia 2016-11-04T19:51:55+00:00

Yuria's Normal

Overall, the SV seems a tad too fast for a normal with that kind of AR/CS, but that's generally your decision to make ^^

00:18:435 (5) - This seems really misplaced as it doesn't fit to any beat I can recognize, I would rather recommend something like this.
followed synth sound
00:21:338 (7) - A really sudden stop for a normal, be careful with those offbeat notes when there's such a strong synth sound between those. I suggest placing a hitcircle between those two, since that shouldn't interfere too much with DS. (00:23:435 (5,6) - Those are fine for example, as there's a break from any sound between them, thus more reasonable when playing.)
okay
01:35:854 (5) - Again, very weird note. Consider the same I said before.
same
01:38:112 (5,6) - Again same structure as mentioned.
same

MashaSG

Yuria's Normal:

00:21:176 - I have a strong feeling that there must be note
okay
00:46:983 (5) - Maybe 1/2 repeat slider?
it's fine imo
Have nothing to say, Good Diff

lazyboy007

[Yuria's Normal]
Mapping

Nothing to say, well mapped

Hitsounds

00:57:306 (5) - shouldn't the end of this one be on Auto? it's inconsistent with they way you hitsounded before good
01:04:402 (3,4) - Here too, add claps imo no

Combo

All fine here

Cool diff too, well mapped ^^

WooWooWoo

[Yuria's Normal]
The only thing I did not like the repeat slider 01:24:402 (2). To me it seems a bit boring. Also hitsounds 01:29:402 (2) , 01:30:370 (4), 01:30:854 (5) on red ticks are superfluous (all at once?!). It would be better to remove them or change. it's fine imo

zzz

osu file format v14

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Title:Unhappy End World
TitleUnicode:アンハッピーエンドワールド
Artist:Miki(CV.Takahashi Rie) & Kurumi(CV.Ozawa Ari)
ArtistUnicode:直樹美紀(CV.高橋李依) & 恵飛須沢胡桃(CV.小澤亜李)
Creator:Lami
Version:Yuria's Normal
Source:がっこうぐらし！
Tags:gakkou gurashi! naoki miki ebisuzawa kurumi curi _c_u_r_i_ Yuria Misure thzz Lasse Kagetsu intoon
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Lasse

Beatmap Nominator

3,596 posts

Joined June 2011

Lasse 2016-11-06T00:09:33+00:00

toybot

toybot wrote:
[Lasse]
00:23:918 (6,7,8,9,1,2) - the circle on 00:24:564 - was really unexpected.. difficult to read ;; yeah I know, though I think the pattern is intuitive enough and I like having some harder to readf patterns
00:33:918 (3,4) - stack more precisely? sure
00:41:338 (2,3,4,5) - this is in 1/8 rhythm not triplet, as theres a little trill on 00:41:459 - and the notes dont fall on 1/6 beats. so, you should probably make this a 1/4 stack, and maybe use a 1/8 slider to accentuate it instead. I know it's not really 1/6, but 1/4+ 1/8 also didn't seem very exact to me, so I just went for the kinda "overmapped" 1/6 as there are 3 noticeable piano sounds on 00:41:338 (2,3,4) - so this seems the best choice to me regarding playability while still following the song. will see what other think about this though as I'm quite unsure
00:55:531 (2,3,4) - ctrl+g'ing this triplet would make a nice circular pattern that's fun to play tbh agree on the "fun to play" but the resulting spacing to get similar visuals just feels a bit overdone and I think the current movement is also pretty nice
01:06:983 (1,2) - it would be cool if this jump directly contrasted the previous 3, whether it be through horizontal movement or w/e. it would make it feel like the most important jump there. I think the change from zigzag to some X pattern and the resulting change in flow + higher spacing does a fine job here
01:11:499 (5,6) - picky, but i'd rather have these be 1/2 sliders. triplets that start on the downbeat tend to create an disconcerting feeling, as its natural to have triplets end on downbeats instead. it's w/e though, doesn't affect much 1/4 repeats seem the best solution to me, unlike circle patterns they put emphasis on the start as that is the only thing you click, but still capture the 1/4 rhythm
01:23:757 (1) - feels like this should be a lower sv, since the intensity is building up from a low point to a peak here. so, sv should reflect that somewhat lower sv just doesn't really feel like it gives enough momentum into the jump sequence and I think it works fine as music starts building up pressure already
01:29:241 (5) - 1/4 slider? i can faintly hear the pitch lower at 01:29:322 - , and a kickslider would fit this section well yes, nice idea. also made the overall shape cuter
good diff c:

thanks!

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Artist:Miki(CV.Takahashi Rie) & Kurumi(CV.Ozawa Ari)
ArtistUnicode:直樹美紀(CV.高橋李依) & 恵飛須沢胡桃(CV.小澤亜李)
Creator:Lami
Version:Lasse's Extra
Source:がっこうぐらし！
Tags:school live gakkou gurashi! naoki miki ebisuzawa kurumi curi _c_u_r_i_ Yuria Misure thzz Lasse Kagetsu intoon
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Misure

951 posts

Joined September 2012

Misure 2016-11-06T04:13:57+00:00

@WooWooWoo

sound is stronger at 00:16:015 (1,2,1) - than others with gaps around them, so I choose to set a jump here, while not so at others
stack at 00:56:499 (7,1) just want to show the feeling of pause
01:06:338 (3,4) yea this is supposed to be circles but I'd like not to make the diff so hard LOL
01:16:499 (3) as for this one, the rhythm follows vocal and the pattern makes more fun like this imo

sry for rejecting all, but thanks!

Garden

Nomination Assessment Team

1,343 posts

Joined June 2013

Garden 2016-11-12T12:37:50+00:00

minor pick

Curi

00:04:886 - whistle for vocal? its pretty empty here in lower diffs

Yuria

00:04:886 - whistle for vocal? its pretty empty here in lower diffs
01:24:402 (2) - hope its fine to have this pattern lol

Misure

00:04:886 - whistle for vocal? its pretty empty here in lower diffs
00:09:564 (3,5) - 细节，稍微多overlap点，和 00:06:338 (1,3) - 差不多
01:23:112 (4,5,1) - 45尾和51头视觉距离搞一样的？

thzz

00:06:015 (4,1) - can improve blanket if thats intended

Karia

00:20:693 (1,2,3,4) - etc. maybe use a more different ds from 00:19:886 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - 00:23:435 (3,4,5,6) - etc. so that it can be better sightread as 1/6
01:07:467 (1,2,3,4,5) - add whistle to some of them for vocal sounds nice

Kagetsu

00:30:047 (2,3) - why not stack? feel inconsistent with similar patterns

Reillia

1,162 posts

Joined August 2014

Reillia 2016-11-13T04:52:11+00:00

@Garden ok fix! thx for mod!

라미님아 대신 휘슬 넣어주셈

Kagetsu

796 posts

Joined March 2015

Kagetsu 2016-11-13T05:04:05+00:00

@Garden: fixed

i changed other stuff and also applied some of toybot's suggestions because i've changed my mind about some of them lol

thanks

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ArtistUnicode:直樹美紀(CV.高橋李依) & 恵飛須沢胡桃(CV.小澤亜李)
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Misure

951 posts

Joined September 2012

Misure 2016-11-13T08:49:09+00:00

all fixed, thx!

Codesu

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TitleUnicode:アンハッピーエンドワールド
Artist:Miki(CV.Takahashi Rie) & Kurumi(CV.Ozawa Ari)
ArtistUnicode:直樹美紀(CV.高橋李依) & 恵飛須沢胡桃(CV.小澤亜李)
Creator:Lami
Version:Misure's Hard
Source:がっこうぐらし！
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lolia

1,356 posts

Joined May 2012

lolia 2016-11-13T09:08:03+00:00

@Garden : Fixed both, thanks for modding!

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TitleUnicode:アンハッピーエンドワールド
Artist:Miki(CV.Takahashi Rie) & Kurumi(CV.Ozawa Ari)
ArtistUnicode:直樹美紀(CV.高橋李依) & 恵飛須沢胡桃(CV.小澤亜李)
Creator:Lami
Version:Karia's Extra
Source:がっこうぐらし！
Tags:school live gakkou gurashi! naoki miki ebisuzawa kurumi curi _c_u_r_i_ Yuria Misure thzz Lasse Kagetsu intoon Karia
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Karen

2,860 posts

Joined August 2013

Karen 2016-11-15T14:49:04+00:00

Hope

00:12:789 (2) - consider adding NC here since the hp would drop a lot during the break lol
00:14:564 (1,2,3) - would be great if this has the same shape with the previous pattern and just copy/rotate, like http://puu.sh/sj3AU/4ea72940da.jpg
classic lami map, nothing much to say

Kagetsu's Extra

00:07:306 (4,1) - adjust the pattern a bit to make them blanket, it is kinda weird to see this inconsistent with 00:06:983 (3,2) -
01:36:902 (2,3) - is this overlap intentional?

Karia's Extra

00:20:693 (1,2,3,4) - this sounds like 1/4+1/8, not 1/6
00:56:822 (2,3,4) - ^ same for the last part

Lasse's Extra

00:41:338 (2,3,4) - same with karia's diff? it sounds like 1/4+1/8
00:42:951 (3,4,1,2) - why isn't this overlapped like 00:42:144 (7,1,2) -
01:27:306 (1) - would fit more if it ends 01:27:870 - here xd

thzz's Insane

00:12:789 (2) - same with the highest diff, add nc for more recovery of hp
01:02:144 (2) - nc this for consistency with 01:02:467 (1) - , i don't see why they're different

really big set orz
good luck with this

Lasse

Beatmap Nominator

3,596 posts

Joined June 2011

Lasse 2016-11-15T15:18:43+00:00

snapping you suggested seems closer cause I already know 1/6 is not "correct" and considered something similar, but it still seems not perfect, as that makes the last object seem a bit early
since there are 3 piano sounds during it and it seems pretty fitting on 100% I'll keep the "overmapped" 1/6 for now, but if it becomes an issue I'll change...
00:42:951 (3,4,1,2) -is actually mirrored if you enable stacking in the editor
agree for the last thing, but it's already a pretty stupid pattern, going for a 1/4 gap here would probably force too many 100s or maybe even sliderbreaks : /

thzz

579 posts

Joined May 2012

thzz 2016-11-16T09:36:36+00:00

sorry for late to check, all modders

Spicy Salsa wrote:
thzz's Insane

00:50:047 (5) - Move this a bit to the right for a blanket blanket for what?

00:54:402 (2,3) - You always mapped this sound to a certain pattern, plus you have a snare beat mapped to the end of a slider. In my opinion, this type of beat deserves more accentuation than a sliderend if you decide to map those. remove clap there~

00:59:725 (3) - This background guitar strum could suggest a different slider shape than a simple bezier. Consider a construction like this one. i prefer synth sound from right side.

01:22:144 (4) - As this is part of a pattern which belongs to a fairly repetitive part from the vocals, I would reconsider about the direction and shape of the slider. In fact, I would suggest you change it to something like this, as it plays easier with the next slider as well. okay

MashaSG wrote:
thzz's Insane:

00:02:306 (1) - 00:02:789 (2) - These 2 sliders end on strong vocal and playing bad, try this https://puu.sh/rXmmB/a923a5d493.jpg change after one to be clickable

00:04:564 (4) - ^

00:06:015 (4,1) - 00:23:596 (5,1) - Maybe blanket? fixed both

00:10:693 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - This part of jumps are a bit untidy in my opinion, but you can keep it maybe now improved

00:21:015 (4,5) - Maybe change this 2 sliders into a 4 bits? Because sounds are so delicate i agree though, it might be difficult thing in this sd.

00:23:918 (6,7) - Dont know how in the game, but in the editor Hitsounds are too loud and harsh even if harsh, this clap sounds are necessary i think.

00:26:983 (1,2) - 00:38:273 (4,1) - 00:49:886 (5,1) - 00:51:983 (3,5) - 00:57:951 (1,3,4) - Blankets need improve checked

00:30:209 - 00:30:854 - Maybe 2 sliders like on 00:29:564 - will be better for sound of piano? each slider is for vocal here

00:59:725 (3) - This sound is much stronger than your slider starts on, I'd put slider on this

01:04:402 - ^ both are necessary slider imo since background. retention

01:18:596 (1) - Maybe curve this slider to make a blanket 01:19:080 (3) - with stream? slider after stream shouldn't be liner in my regulation. no change

01:19:886 (1,5) - Stack? i'd like to make them same as 01:20:370 (2,4) -

lazyboy007 wrote:
[thzz's Insane]
Nothing to say at all on this, it's fine as is imo thanks :3

TheKoala wrote:
thzz's Insane
-00:04:241 (2,3) - imo the jump is too large and doesn't fit the song also 3 makes an ugly overlap with 4 okay
-00:28:112 (1) - the slider ends on a big tick which needs to be emphasized. swapping 1 and 2 on the timeline sounds and looks better imo considering vocal, this rhythm is the best for me. retention.
-00:28:918 (3,5) - not a fan of the slight overlap, it ruins the aesthetics of the map. either stack them or move them apart
-00:30:854 (1,4) - ^
-00:35:209 (3,6,2) - ^ I recommend stacking them
-00:49:241 (2,6) - ^
-diff needs some work mainly on aesthetics such overlapping is needed to be much readable rhythm. aesthetics also fine for me.

WooWooWoo wrote:
[thzz's Insane]
Generally speaking, I do not really like jumps that don't emphasize anything. So 00:38:435 (5) , 00:42:951 (3) , 00:44:886 (5) - etc look superfluous for me. I suggest to reduce the spacing before them. There's no need to complicate the difficulty, besides this's the only Insan previous to Extra. Also I am confused by the fact that there is a gap between 01:38:113 (2,3). Does it make sense to emphasize by spacings toward the end, if during the map you stick them together in such places. can't you hear piano sounds? it's not "not aything", "something". also such jumps work as good bridge to Extras, i'm afraid that my Insane to be likely Hard.

_Meep_ wrote:
[thzz's insane]
01:02:467 (1) - Probably remove NC on this should be colorful for emphasis imo
01:03:112 (1) - Remove NC on this here's a borderline of the song. sorry~
and 01:02:789 (4) - NC this
Do it all together and see how you like it,this is just my opinion and I think it looks better
01:16:499 (1) - Remove NC? for emphasis. keep it for now~

toybot wrote:
[thzz]
00:27:951 (5,1,2) - why'd you ignore the downbeat? it feels like here, you just went off your own rhythm, which doesn't feel very intuitive to tap. you should do something like this instead all right, mentioned second time. also thx great placement suggestion!
00:48:918 (1,2) - this gap feels pretty awkward, since you go on to make rhythms with 1/4 like 00:50:693 (2) - and 00:51:983 (3) - in the same section. so, it feels like there should be more here, to have it be similar in object density all right
01:22:467 (1) - clap on the tail sounds noisy and doesn't follow any drums in particular following drums on the song correctly.

Garden wrote:
thzz
00:06:015 (4,1) - can improve blanket if thats intended okay

Karen wrote:
thzz's Insane
00:12:789 (2) - same with the highest diff, add nc for more recovery of hp will consider it with highest diff~
01:02:144 (2) - nc this for consistency with 01:02:467 (1) - , i don't see why they're different if i do it, i also have to add nc at 01:02:789 (2) - . it seems too colorful for me. retention it plz

thank you all!

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Lily Bread

1,228 posts

Joined December 2014

Lily Bread 2016-11-17T13:15:52+00:00

as request

[Karia's Extra]
00:35:854 (1) - this 1/1 slider is a little weird imo. there is no strong sounds in music that start from - 00:35:854 - to - 00:36:176 -. and this part is 1/2 spam, so i suggest to use a 1/2 reverse slider instead.

01:05:693 (5,1) - there is no pause in vocal, so i suggest to not stack. though stack is ok.

gl

lolia

1,356 posts

Joined May 2012

lolia 2016-11-17T14:09:15+00:00

@Karen : Fixed 2nd thing. 1/4 + 1/8 also doesn't fit to hear on others. I want to keep them for now..

Lily Bread wrote:
[Karia's Extra]
00:35:854 (1) - this 1/1 slider is a little weird imo. there is no strong sounds in music that start from - 00:35:854 - to - 00:36:176 -. and this part is 1/2 spam, so i suggest to use a 1/2 reverse slider instead. It's holding a strong sound..

01:05:693 (5,1) - there is no pause in vocal, so i suggest to not stack. though stack is ok. I followed instrument sounds from 01:01:822 - , so here is not an issue imo

Thanks for moddings!

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Kagetsu

796 posts

Joined March 2015

Kagetsu 2016-11-19T05:25:20+00:00

Karen wrote:
Kagetsu's Extra
00:07:306 (4,1) - adjust the pattern a bit to make them blanket, it is kinda weird to see this inconsistent with 00:06:983 (3,2) - done
01:36:902 (2,3) - is this overlap intentional? yes

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ArtistUnicode:直樹美紀(CV.高橋李依) & 恵飛須沢胡桃(CV.小澤亜李)
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Rizia

3,114 posts

Joined January 2012

Rizia 2016-12-11T17:33:12+00:00

[Kagetsu's Extra]
consider make smaller spacing between 01:06:015 (1,2) -

[thzz's Insane]
dont keep using soft hitclap1 for kiai?
01:27:306 (3) - recommend to add nc because of the slow down

[Yuria's Normal]
01:24:402 (2,3,4) - imo its kinda danger for a normal, especially 01:24:402 (2) -

nice mapset
i like this hardest diff except the jumps on 01:24:402 -

thzz

579 posts

Joined May 2012

thzz 2016-12-12T01:21:06+00:00

Rizia wrote:
[thzz's Insane]
dont keep using soft hitclap1 for kiai? it's just a correct usage with the song~
01:27:306 (3) - recommend to add nc because of the slow down roger

thank you :3

http://puu.sh/sMnBo/3501b33c2a.osu

Elasia

160 posts

Joined December 2010

Elasia 2016-12-12T04:43:52+00:00

all fixed, sorry for late.

thanks all!

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Kagetsu

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Kagetsu 2016-12-12T12:17:44+00:00

Rizia wrote:
[Kagetsu's Extra]
consider make smaller spacing between 01:06:015 (1,2) -
i did it

<3 rizia

here's the update

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Title:Unhappy End World
TitleUnicode:アンハッピーエンドワールド
Artist:Miki(CV.Takahashi Rie) & Kurumi(CV.Ozawa Ari)
ArtistUnicode:直樹美紀(CV.高橋李依) & 恵飛須沢胡桃(CV.小澤亜李)
Creator:Lami
Version:Kagetsu's Extra
Source:がっこうぐらし！
Tags:school live gakkou gurashi! naoki miki ebisuzawa kurumi curi _c_u_r_i_ Yuria Misure thzz Lasse Kagetsu intoon Karia
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Lami

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Lami 2016-12-12T12:49:25+00:00

@karen : fixed all

Rizia wrote:
[Kagetsu's Extra]
consider make smaller spacing between 01:06:015 (1,2) -

[thzz's Insane]
dont keep using soft hitclap1 for kiai?
01:27:306 (3) - recommend to add nc because of the slow down

[Yuria's Normal]
01:24:402 (2,3,4) - imo its kinda danger for a normal, especially 01:24:402 (2) -

nice mapset
i like this hardest diff except the jumps on 01:24:402 -

thanks for modding

Lasse

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Lasse 2016-12-12T21:43:44+00:00

http://puu.sh/sNjDi/62836511a0.jpg
you can replace the bg with this, uses the new maximum rankable resolution so it will look a little better to people playing on >1366x768

Lami

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Lami 2016-12-13T03:47:12+00:00

ok, thank you

metadata by KwaN

Rizia

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Rizia 2016-12-16T09:52:21+00:00

SPOILER

hmm it got some problem on file name

Lami

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Lami 2016-12-16T10:41:07+00:00

oop, fixed problem x_x

Rizia

3,114 posts

Joined January 2012

Rizia 2016-12-16T10:54:03+00:00

its fine now
bubbled

sahuang

2,293 posts

Joined December 2014

sahuang 2017-01-30T02:27:42+00:00

make sure you disable all widescreen support.

thzz
00:28:435 (2,4) - almost overlapped
01:44:080 (1) - no need to nc imo

lasse
00:05:370 - i think you should use a single slider ending here. since you are following vocal for intro the reverse slider seems weird
00:06:983 (3) - break it down?idk why you use this pattern
01:01:822 (1,1,1) - sv is way too big compared to previous objects.ik the song is more intense but 2.8x and 3.2x is too big...
01:27:306 (1) - dont get why you use a slow sv here instead of a circle.
also 00:26:338 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - flow is very very hard unlike 01:43:758 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -

karia
00:20:693 (1,2,3,4) - snap to 1/4 as all other diffs do, the sound here is bit vague but 1/4 seems better and more friendly, also for consistency.
01:38:112 (1,2,3,4) - same

other diffs are fine. pop because of unsnap, feel free to call me back for rebubble~

also mod this: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/562600

thzz

579 posts

Joined May 2012

thzz 2017-01-30T05:55:02+00:00

My Angel Azusa wrote:
thzz
00:28:435 (2,4) - almost overlapped fix
01:44:080 (1) - no need to nc imo i think this nc is necessary to express very strong sound here. also, i feel it's easier to count circles on the stream in current way.

thank you~

http://puu.sh/tGmyv/1f011f0245.osu

lolia

1,356 posts

Joined May 2012

lolia 2017-01-30T06:10:37+00:00

thanks for modding/

SPOILER

osu file format v14

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Title:Unhappy End World
TitleUnicode:アンハッピーエンドワールド
Artist:Naoki Miki(CV.Takahashi Rie) & Ebisuzawa Kurumi(CV.Ozawa Ari)
ArtistUnicode:直樹美紀(CV.高橋李依)&恵飛須沢胡桃(CV.小澤亜李)
Creator:Lami
Version:Karia's Extra
Source:がっこうぐらし！
Tags:school live gakkou gurashi! naoki miki ebisuzawa kurumi curi _c_u_r_i_ Yuria Misure thzz Lasse Kagetsu intoon Karia
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Lasse

Beatmap Nominator

3,596 posts

Joined June 2011

Lasse 2017-01-30T09:02:24+00:00

pop to graveyard lol

My Angel Azusa

My Angel Azusa wrote:
make sure you disable all widescreen support.

lasse
00:05:370 - i think you should use a single slider ending here. since you are following vocal for intro the reverse slider seems weird yeah that works
00:06:983 (3) - break it down?idk why you use this pattern the whole intro only puts click on vocals while passively mapping guitar so this makes sense. vocal is only on head
01:01:822 (1,1,1) - sv is way too big compared to previous objects.ik the song is more intense but 2.8x and 3.2x is too big...consider this is 1x base sv so it's the same as 1.4 and 1.6 at 2x base. also music intensity goes up so suddenly that I think "sudden" feeling sliders are great. and with how the sliders are shaped you don't really have to follow them very closely either
01:27:306 (1) - dont get why you use a slow sv here instead of a circle. vocal + low pitch guitar. think it is a great way to emphasize the drastic change here and didn't see anyone break from misreading it o:
also 00:26:338 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - flow is very very hard unlike 01:43:758 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - rotated the first part of it slightly to lead better into next, though for me personally the first seems easier to play when I testplay lol

thanks!
also did some minor colorhax to make some things stand out more and added a few subtle normal sliderwhistles to the 00:25:531 (1) - and 01:35:208 - parts and some other slider hitsounds
+ kiai reset for 01:17:951 -

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ArtistUnicode:直樹美紀(CV.高橋李依)&恵飛須沢胡桃(CV.小澤亜李)
Creator:Lami
Version:Lasse's Extra
Source:がっこうぐらし！
Tags:school live gakkou gurashi! naoki miki ebisuzawa kurumi curi _c_u_r_i_ Yuria Misure thzz Lasse Kagetsu intoon Karia
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sahuang

2,293 posts

Joined December 2014

sahuang 2017-01-30T12:14:13+00:00

let's try

Cryptic

551 posts

Joined December 2013

Cryptic 2017-01-31T06:28:15+00:00

Heyo! I saw your map this evening and wanted to go over a few things before this can get fully pushed for rank.

[General]

As it currently stands, your spread isn't ready for rank. Theres a slightly larger than normal gap from the Normal to Hard (which can be fixed pretty easily with some spacing nerfs on the Hard) and a fairly large gap between the Insane and Hard that requires a diff inbetween them. I personally would also like to see another diff between the Insane and Lasse's extra, but that isn't as important as the two aforementioned points.

[Easy]

01:04:402 (2,1) - This pattern is a bit weird for an easy, mainly because it requires a 90 degree movement change between rhythms. Maybe try reshaping/repositioning 01:05:693 (1) - to flow smoother out of 01:04:402 (2) - ?
I find a lot about 01:27:951 (2,3,1) - that weird. You primarily follow the vocals, which land 01:28:757 - but you ignore them here, creating an interesting pattern that not only is uncommon among easy diffs, but is unique to this point in the map. I'd find a compromise here to make things more intuitive for the player.
01:31:499 (4,1) - If you have a literal stop here, why didn't you also have one 00:11:499 (1,2,3) - there? Doesn't it seem to make more sense on a part with practically no sound?
01:43:757 (4,1) - Make the slider point to the next note to make it more intuitive for the player to find as there is a large rhythmic gap between them.

[Hard]

00:01:015 (1) - to 00:08:918 (1) - Whats going on with the spacing in here? And the structure? I don't really know where to begin. Whats the concept here? Theres a lot of flow changes and spacing changes...
00:16:015 (1,2,1) - This is pretty awkward flow for a hard, you have to change your cursors momentum to hit the slider and then follow through that slider. Additionally, 00:15:047 (1,1) - is deceptive spacing as until now 1/1 has been spaced and 1/2 has been stacked on slider head/tail. The stacking issue is fine in later parts of the map but it feels out of place here due to previous patterning.
00:18:112 (2,4) - This is one of the only places where you stack your circle underneath a slidertail almost right after that slidertail appears. It's not exactly easiest pattern to read for players either, and the spacing (2>3 having larger spacing) from 3>4>5>1 is a bit odd as well.
00:27:951 (4,5) - 00:30:532 (4,5) - 00:33:112 (4,1) - 00:38:274 (4,1) - etc - consistency?
00:30:854 (5) - Based off the slider tail here you'd expect to go right but deny that expectation by going left, maybe rework that?
00:34:725 (1,2,3,4) - This is the only place this pattern appears, and its not really a common concept on a hard, whats your rationalization here?
00:52:467 (4,1) - Similar flow problem as mentioned earlier.
01:14:725 (1,2,3,4) - Why the perfect stacks?
01:27:306 (1,2,3) - This all looks like the same rhythm but is in fact two different rhyhtms, why is that?
01:35:208 (1,3) - Previous
01:44:080 (4,1) - Completely unexpected circle location, why not just stack it on the slider end or something? What makes this spot different? Ending note?
You need to make the spacing more uniform overall and focus more on a consistent flow to bring this closer to the Normal diff and make the E>N>H spread more solid. This is one of the most problematic diffs at the moment in my opinion.

[Light Insane]

Make one to bridge the gap between the Hard and Insane.

[thzz]

Okay please, you ignore the guitar at 00:05:845 - and then map it 00:07:628 (1,2,3,4) - there? Whaaa? I don't get it. Also why the density on those? Why not just make them 1/2 sliders?
00:14:080 (1,2,1,2) - The DS between these shouldn't really be consistent. Make the second 1>2 a bit larger than the first to emphasize the fact that this is indeed a buildup. (This is a really weird place to enforce DS compared to the rest of the map IMO, like the intro should be heavily DS'd and this part seems to be more DS'd...)
00:25:370 (4,5) - 00:27:628 (4,5) - 00:30:047 (2,3) - 00:39:564 (4,1) - 00:42:789 (2,3) - Nerf please.
00:46:176 (1,2,3) - Buff please.
01:12:144 (1,2,3,4) - Wheres the spacing coming from here? It seems pretty random. You aren't getting them from the vocals since thats a 1/1.
01:38:758 (5,1) - Nerf this please.
01:44:080 (1,1) - Just stack the last note on the repeat slider, no reason to have the movement there.
Anything that says buff or nerf I've condensed into a list mainly. My reasoning for those points is they're either larger or smaller than more intense sections of the song and nerfing/buffing them will bring the song's overarching consistency more in line. Sadly, theres a lot of inconsistent jump representation in this map (regarding DS) so I just picked out the really important ones to me.

[Light Extra]

Consider it at the very least, its not really required but the technical skill required from thzz to any of the Extra's is almost as high as the Hard to thzz.

[Lasse]

With all the notes stacked in one spot 00:24:241 (1,2) - this is pretty hard to read. I think the previous pattern stacking makes a lot of sense but I'm not really getting the reasoning behind the placement of the 2 here.
01:23:757 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I don't get the concept behind this at all. The flow change between 01:23:757 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - and 01:25:047 (1,2,3,4) - seems really odd and the square at the end just seems pretty forced. Also, the beginning pattern seems a lot less structured than your other jumps, I feel like this could just use some tidying up.
01:26:338 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Why aren't these stacked like at the beginning? Want to promote more movement? (I think they play fine but its just a weird consistency thing.)
01:41:660 (1,2) - Same thing I mentioned before.
I love this diff, hella fun to play.

[Karia]

00:12:789 (1) - CTRL+G? It plays way better like that.
01:06:338 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Tone down the progression here a bit? The sound isn't increasing in intensity to the point where it justifies a near-fullscreen jump at the end.
Also a really fun diff IMO.

[Kage]

00:01:015 (1,2,3,4,5) - I think you're trying to keep a consistent DS here? I can't really tell, but it wouldn't be a bad idea. The random small changes in spacing don't make any sense.
00:04:241 (2,3,4) - The spacing between each of these is approximately the same. Nerf the spacing between 2>3.
00:05:693 (4,5) - Also, why is this as large as some of your kiai jumps?
00:08:273 (3,4,1) - You could make 3 and 1 an equal distance from 4 (so nerf the jump by moving 1 a bit closer to the slider).
00:10:531 (2,5) - Fix blanket w
00:16:338 (4) - Nice non-existent note champ! Just do a 1/12th kick on 00:16:418 (5) - and call it a day. Having the jump to 4 here adds a lot of non-existent intensity to this pattern.
00:18:757 (4,5,1) - Flows a bit awkward, give more spacing between 4>5 and move 5 closer to 1 to give more justice to the "do-do-do" that is unique to this little tidbit of music and to also improve the flow.
00:33:918 (2,3) - Why is the spacing so large here when theres technically no clickable beat except vocals on 3?
00:34:725 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This has a building intensity to it where 5>6>7 should be the most intense. Try reworking the pattern so that 1>2>3>4 flow more naturally into the last 3 jumps and then increas ethe spacing a bit on 5>6>7 (not by much, this is a calm part).
00:36:983 (4,1) - Technically the flow here is weird since you kind of stunt your momentum to drop downwards and then have to immediately change it to follow the slight upward curve of the slider body. Try improving it?
00:41:176 (1,2,3,4,5) - Move the 4 upwards to create a zig-zag pattern. At the momentum you have a weird obtuse pattern that feels ugly to play.
01:08:918 (3,4) - Buff.
01:09:564 (1,2) - Hello spacing? Buff please, and also make this pattern (01:10:047 (2,3,4,5,6) - ) in general make more sense because at the moment it seems entirely random in terms of spacing AND note positioning.
01:14:725 (1,2) - Why do you keep doing this super small practically 1/4th spacing on one of the most consistently intense parts of the song? I honestly don't get this in the slightest because you have this crap 00:40:370 (2,3,4) - on relatively peaceful parts. Whats the reasoning here? Is the piano that intense to you? I don't get it...
01:19:241 (3,4) - Even this is getting too easy. Why do your kiais feel almost easier than some of the other parts of the map? Sure, a kiai doesn't always have to be more intense, but in this case it definitely should be.
01:19:886 (1,2) -
01:22:144 (6,7,1) - One of the stronger vocals in this kiai is getting less spacing than 01:20:854 (5,6,1) - . Don't get me wrong, both are pretty well-spaced, but the 7>1 on the aforementioned pattern needs a bit more love to bring it in line with your other patterns.
01:24:241 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - I don't understand this... it seems to be some sort of progressing pattern but the original structures of the jumps don't make much sense so that continues with the rest of the patterns. Just rework them, this section has building intensity and you should reflect that more in your jumps.
01:27:951 (1,2) - OH! I almost mistook this for a 1/2!
01:38:757 (6,7,1) - EHHHH, the slider tail placement here is fine but the head could be moved up quite a bit to make it flow nicer. At the moment the 6>7>1 flow is atrocious coming out of the previous jumps. (I CTRL+G'd and rotated 20 deg and that worked well, remember to CTRL+G it back after you apply the change.)
01:41:337 (6) - Have this point either horizontal towards the left or more towards your destination (the incoming triple).
Sorry for being rude, this diff just seems to be the most haphazard of the extras and in general the weakest of the four.

[Hope]

HP 6.5 mang, make it more difficult - the HP is a bit too forgiving on the streams at the moment.
00:02:789 (2,2) - This isn't even remotely important but the slight not-stacked is triggering.
00:14:080 (1,2) - Buff spacing as this is currently in line with 00:06:176 (5,1) - and some other places.
00:17:789 (1,2,3) - These notes are musically in the same sequence but are interpreted in play quite differently, why is that?
01:18:596 (1,2) - Buff.
01:24:402 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Similar complaint to Karia's diff but in another section, the spacing increasing here isn't justified by the music, your increase is too drastic. Nerf these a bit, especially when you look at the rest of the kiai these are just absurdly large.

I hope I remembered everything...
I'm beyond tired, so if you need clarifications forum PM me or find me in game. Now I can finally go to bed. Gnight!

Lami

1,756 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Lami 2017-01-31T07:27:09+00:00

Cryptic wrote:
Heyo! I saw your map this evening and wanted to go over a few things before this can get fully pushed for rank.

[General]
As it currently stands, your spread isn't ready for rank. Theres a slightly larger than normal gap from the Normal to Hard (which can be fixed pretty easily with some spacing nerfs on the Hard) and a fairly large gap between the Insane and Hard that requires a diff inbetween them. I personally would also like to see another diff between the Insane and Lasse's extra, but that isn't as important as the two aforementioned points.
idk it's really problem... because it's so common gap nowdays, and anyone doesn't complaint it, yet. i will discuss about it
[Hope]
HP 6.5 mang, make it more difficult - the HP is a bit too forgiving on the streams at the moment. mm, hp 6 enough appropriate on this diff.. but ok
00:02:789 (2,2) - This isn't even remotely important but the slight not-stacked is triggering. y
00:14:080 (1,2) - Buff spacing as this is currently in line with 00:06:176 (5,1) - and some other places. try buff
00:17:789 (1,2,3) - These notes are musically in the same sequence but are interpreted in play quite differently, why is that?
i just work that this redline slider was followed on 00:17:789 - , 00:18:112 - , 00:18:435 - beat.
i doubt why this melody placed on the downbeat. go to ask to composer why do this. :d
01:18:596 (1,2) - Buff. fix
01:24:402 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Similar complaint to Karia's diff but in another section, the spacing increasing here isn't justified by the music, your increase is too drastic. Nerf these a bit, especially when you look at the rest of the kiai these are just absurdly large.
hmm, i know what you say. but i suppose you already know this part is most strongest part, too.
Since this part is obviously strongest part than everything, I want to chellenge something for this.
At clearly different part, i'd like to use definitely different partten for that. i think it will be special motivation to player, who want to chellenge extreamly different special partten, compare with other maps. i think huge jump is special partten too, since it can't use easily without something.
I hope I remembered everything...
I'm beyond tired, so if you need clarifications forum PM me or find me in game. Now I can finally go to bed. Gnight!

thanks

Last edited by Lami 2017-01-31T12:30:13+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Lasse

Beatmap Nominator

3,596 posts

Joined June 2011

Lasse 2017-01-31T11:26:20+00:00

Cryptic wrote:
[Lasse]
With all the notes stacked in one spot 00:24:241 (1,2) - this is pretty hard to read. I think the previous pattern stacking makes a lot of sense but I'm not really getting the reasoning behind the placement of the 2 here.see below, changed
01:23:757 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I don't get the concept behind this at all. The flow change between 01:23:757 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - and 01:25:047 (1,2,3,4) - seems really odd and the square at the end just seems pretty forced. Also, the beginning pattern seems a lot less structured than your other jumps, I feel like this could just use some tidying up. flow change on 01:25:047 (1) - is to emphasize how volume suddenly increases more and also I just don't like keeping the same circular flow for so long cause I think it becomes really boring and loses all feeling of emphasis after a while. square fits the transition to vocals and the "forced feeling" or whatever is nice to make them stand out I think. the 3 note patterns after switch to guitar/cymbal. Beginning pattern is mainly placed in accordance to equal visual spacing and movement/building up ds
01:26:338 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Why aren't these stacked like at the beginning? Want to promote more movement? (I think they play fine but its just a weird consistency thing.) they are mapped in a different context/different parts. so the basic concept behind them is the same/flow for 1-2-3 but execution is different
01:41:660 (1,2) - Same thing I mentioned before. yeah, I got some complaints already lol. unstacked
I love this diff, hella fun to play.

thanks!
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about the gaps: I think they are okay, though I agree n-h is a bit big in terms of gameplay elements and actual difficulty they should still be fine (but just barely) since normal already uses lots of 1/2 rhythms. and insane-extra also seems alright

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Artist:Naoki Miki(CV.Takahashi Rie) & Ebisuzawa Kurumi(CV.Ozawa Ari)
ArtistUnicode:直樹美紀(CV.高橋李依)&恵飛須沢胡桃(CV.小澤亜李)
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Source:がっこうぐらし！
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Cryptic

551 posts

Joined December 2013

Cryptic 2017-01-31T13:20:05+00:00

Lami wrote:
idk it's really problem... because it's so common gap nowdays, and anyone doesn't complaint it, yet. i will discuss about it

Lasse wrote:
about the gaps: I think they are okay, though I agree n-h is a bit big in terms of gameplay elements and actual difficulty they should still be fine (but just barely) since normal already uses lots of 1/2 rhythms. and insane-extra also seems alright

The spread isn't necessarily normal with the amount of diffs you have. It definitely could be seen as just barely passable but that would be if the spread was just ENHI. Since your spread is ENHIXXXX you have a lot of density at the top level making the huge gaps in your lower levels (between the H and I and the N-H) being not very passable. I think that using other maps as an excuse isn't really acceptable either... But the main concern here is the difference in spacing between the H-I are huge. I talked with Nozhomi about this while I was in the process of modding the map to get another opinion, the log is below:

log

2017-01-31 00:20 Cryptic: Hey can I pester you for a quick opinion on a spread?
2017-01-31 00:20 Nozhomi: ja
2017-01-31 00:21 Cryptic: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1102418 Naoki Miki(CV.Takahashi Rie) & Ebisuzawa Kurumi(CV.Ozawa Ari) - Unhappy End World]
2017-01-31 00:21 Cryptic: I think the gap between the Hard and Insane is too large
2017-01-31 00:21 Cryptic: I know its gonna get qualified in approx 13 hours since sahuang popped Rizia and Rebubb'd a bit ago
2017-01-31 00:21 Cryptic: and I know I'm gonna pop it for a few things on the extra, but I can't decide if I should ask him to add a light insane, I think it needs it but I may be being too nzi
2017-01-31 00:23 Nozhomi: I see
2017-01-31 00:26 Nozhomi: so well
2017-01-31 00:28 Nozhomi: if I had to say a word, I would say Hard could get jumps reduced a bit to match more the gap with Normal, and yeah Insane is done with some crazy jumps patterns and 1/4 kick sliders, make it quite big gap here
2017-01-31 00:29 Cryptic: So you think I'm not being overly strict and my concerns are legitimate?
2017-01-31 00:30 Nozhomi: it's quite edgy so I guess it's depending of the view of mappers, but I would join you on this one with your concern about diffspread ye
2017-01-31 00:30 Cryptic: Okay, thank you very much!
2017-01-31 00:30 Nozhomi: o7

So yeah, I'll also ask around a bit and get some more opinions for you as well, but IMO its much better to go ahead and fix the spread.

lolia

1,356 posts

Joined May 2012

lolia 2017-01-31T13:24:52+00:00

Fixed both, thanks

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Kagetsu

796 posts

Joined March 2015

Kagetsu 2017-01-31T14:56:47+00:00

@Cryptic most of the "jumps/non-jumps" you pointed doesn't really feel as a "jump/non-jump" for players around this level of difficulty, your mod basically consist in "buff/nerf spacing" and "improve flow", i just think you're being too closed-minded when it comes to spacing, most of the objects you want to move won't really change anything, because of slider leniency.
it's well known that for this type of diffs, difficulty is more focused on rhythm density rather than spacing, it won't change if i place beats 1.0 or 1.5 ds. as long as the spacing isn't too different, (for example, for this part 01:06:015 - ) it won't feel harder or different.
for the "flow" thing i think it's obvious that i tend to break the flow on downbeats/strong beats, so it shouldn't be a problem

thanks for the mod tho

Cryptic

551 posts

Joined December 2013

Cryptic 2017-01-31T15:05:41+00:00

Theres a bit more to the mod than just jumps/spacing/flow though, like the overmapped triple and some requests for explanations to particular patterns. I'd hope that you could at least take the time to respond to some of your reasonings to specific points rather than just a general statement, as not everything was addressed by that response.

(Also it isn't really about buffing or nerfing SR, it's about overall map consistency and intensity interpretation. I don't care about the difficulty in relation to players as much as the difficulty in relation to other parts of the song.)

sahuang

2,293 posts

Joined December 2014

sahuang 2017-01-31T15:20:30+00:00

lol the gap is already small enough compared to a lot of ranked maps recently ,including some of mine.
i think the jump required in insane is not as big as you stated. hard-insane is very fine.
in terms of normal and hard, basically they are just following ds, even if ds is a bit big in hard,which makes sr high, this doesn't show the gap is big in any means. i dont get your logic here. basically all mapsets follow this kind of spread nowadays.

Cryptic wrote:
[Kage]
00:01:015 (1,2,3,4,5) - I think you're trying to keep a consistent DS here? I can't really tell, but it wouldn't be a bad idea. The random small changes in spacing don't make any sense.
I dont understand what's the difference between such small spacing inconsistency in extra diff.
00:04:241 (2,3,4) - The spacing between each of these is approximately the same. Nerf the spacing between 2>3.
you will not even notice the difference in ds when gameplay. the fact that you want everything to be ds based is really silly and can eventually destroy some good maps imo.
00:05:693 (4,5) - Also, why is this as large as some of your kiai jumps?
fine,this can be nerfed a bit,but isn't a big issue to be honest. i dont consider 00:05:693 (4,5) - as 'big' spacing in extra. if we follow your point then every map can't have 1/4-screen-small jumps besides kiai??
00:08:273 (3,4,1) - You could make 3 and 1 an equal distance from 4 (so nerf the jump by moving 1 a bit closer to the slider).
why?music,especially vocal is kinda high at 00:08:918 - and to emphasise this bigger ds is better.
00:10:531 (2,5) - Fix blanket w
..who cares about this nazi blanket
00:16:338 (4) - Nice non-existent note champ! Just do a 1/12th kick on 00:16:418 (5) - and call it a day. Having the jump to 4 here adds a lot of non-existent intensity to this pattern.
kinda valid here, i agree that 00:16:338 (4,5) - can be deleted and seems better.
00:18:757 (4,5,1) - Flows a bit awkward, give more spacing between 4>5 and move 5 closer to 1 to give more justice to the "do-do-do" that is unique to this little tidbit of music and to also improve the flow.
00:18:757 (4,5,1) - plays perfectly fine, you should write your points after you consider your ability of playing. this is a very common jump pattern in extra tbh.
00:33:918 (2,3) - Why is the spacing so large here when theres technically no clickable beat except vocals on 3? to emphasise 00:34:241 -
00:34:725 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This has a building intensity to it where 5>6>7 should be the most intense. Try reworking the pattern so that 1>2>3>4 flow more naturally into the last 3 jumps and then increas ethe spacing a bit on 5>6>7 (not by much, this is a calm part).
this is calm part so currently its fine. the flow is ok
00:36:983 (4,1) - Technically the flow here is weird since you kind of stunt your momentum to drop downwards and then have to immediately change it to follow the slight upward curve of the slider body. Try improving it?
"00:36:983 (4,1) - flow is weird." best joke 2017. flow is everything in your map,i know it now.
00:41:176 (1,2,3,4,5) - Move the 4 upwards to create a zig-zag pattern. At the momentum you have a weird obtuse pattern that feels ugly to play.
again, obtuse is not ok here? i know your pattern is ok, but this one is also fine. you are trying to let others use your pattern...also why is it ugly then?
01:08:918 (3,4) - Buff.
01:09:564 (1,2) - Hello spacing? Buff please, and also make this pattern (01:10:047 (2,3,4,5,6) - ) in general make more sense because at the moment it seems entirely random in terms of spacing AND note positioning.
01:14:725 (1,2) - Why do you keep doing this super small practically 1/4th spacing on one of the most consistently intense parts of the song? I honestly don't get this in the slightest because you have this crap 00:40:370 (2,3,4) - on relatively peaceful parts. Whats the reasoning here? Is the piano that intense to you? I don't get it...
01:19:241 (3,4) - Even this is getting too easy. Why do your kiais feel almost easier than some of the other parts of the map? Sure, a kiai doesn't always have to be more intense, but in this case it definitely should be.
01:19:886 (1,2) -
so much about 1/4 likewise ds... personally i think it's ok, from your point of view we must use all jumps in kiai for intensity, but i disagree.
rest are kinda same, you put too much emphasis on ds/pattern stuff, which kills the freedom in extras imo. i dont think it's a good idea. ik you are trying to 'improve the quality' since it seems bad for you. but i strongly feel this is a very normal diff that nowadays we can find in ranked sections. if you still think this is bad then most of maps nowadays will be lacking in quality, aesthetics, ds etc.
please consider.
I hope I remembered everything...
I'm beyond tired, so if you need clarifications forum PM me or find me in game. Now I can finally go to bed. Gnight!

sorry for wrong colours zzz im too tired try to read thx

Misure

951 posts

Joined September 2012

Misure 2017-01-31T15:45:31+00:00

sry for late, I'm writing reply xd
you are so quick

Cryptic wrote:
[Hard]
00:01:015 (1) - to 00:08:918 (1) - Whats going on with the spacing in here? And the structure? I don't really know where to begin. Whats the concept here? Theres a lot of flow changes and spacing changes...
the mainly concept for this part is to make the distance almost same in visual sense (about x1.8), with minor changes when there is a 1/1 gap, such as: 00:01:660 (3,4) - cutz of the afterimage of 00:01:177 (2) - it looks like kinda close so I made it further; 00:02:951 (6,7,1) - the stack make it have a pause 00:03:435 - so it feels good to move to the next slider (also 00:02:951 (6,1) - afterimage); 00:04:241 (2,3) - obtuse flow makes it look like farther so x1.8; 00:05:370 (4,5) - same; 00:07:628 (4) - same, umm well make it to right more
00:16:015 (1,2,1) - This is pretty awkward flow for a hard, you have to change your cursors momentum to hit the slider and then follow through that slider. Additionally, 00:15:047 (1,1) - is deceptive spacing as until now 1/1 has been spaced and 1/2 has been stacked on slider head/tail. The stacking issue is fine in later parts of the map but it feels out of place here due to previous patterning.
00:15:047 (1,1,2) - I want to make them the transform part (in fact they are, as well as 01:27:306 (1,2,3) - )
slow down for the slider and then a small jump from the stacking point is fun imo; as for flow, it's due to the similar reason, the flow cut here is acceptable, since this made 00:16:499 (1) - a new start point for the new part, also 1/1 gap makes it enough to get it
00:18:112 (2,4) - This is one of the only places where you stack your circle underneath a slidertail almost right after that slidertail appears. It's not exactly easiest pattern to read for players either, and the spacing (2>3 having larger spacing) from 3>4>5>1 is a bit odd as well.
well I don't know how to explain this tbh LOL but I bet more than 90% players won't feel it weird since it flows well,, as for the stack it's really fun imo, yea at least for me (I like play hard diffs \o/)
00:27:951 (4,5) - 00:30:532 (4,5) - 00:33:112 (4,1) - 00:38:274 (4,1) - etc - consistency?
yea should be fixed but the minor changes in distance won't be obvious (especially when the gap is 1/1) and it makes me headache to rearrange the crossed circles so no change
00:30:854 (5) - Based off the slider tail here you'd expect to go right but deny that expectation by going left, maybe rework that?
I prefer to make flow of 00:30:209 (3,4,5,6) - spread out cutz the music give me that feeling, compared to 00:27:628 (3,4,5,6) - which shrank
00:34:725 (1,2,3,4) - This is the only place this pattern appears, and its not really a common concept on a hard, whats your rationalization here?
just to make the flow like 'rolling' here and then spread out at 00:36:015 (1,2,3,4) - , also straight ones then curved ones give more variety, umm not common but it feels proper here since the music is really unique here
00:52:467 (4,1) - Similar flow problem as mentioned earlier.
flow cut with 1/1 gap
01:14:725 (1,2,3,4) - Why the perfect stacks?
nah I think perfect stacks is not a problem tho..
01:27:306 (1,2,3) - This all looks like the same rhythm but is in fact two different rhyhtms, why is that?
similar to 00:15:047 (1,1,2) - as transform part but this one gives me more excitement so I made some changes compared to the previous one, also it's enough to judge it imo
01:35:208 (1,3) - Previous
yea I admit this one is not so unique as the previous one. fixed it and the uncommon one is only for the unique music now
01:44:080 (4,1) - Completely unexpected circle location, why not just stack it on the slider end or something? What makes this spot different? Ending note?
since there is a 3/2 gap, stacks will make it difficult to catch rhythm, especially for the last one circle, while place it at another point makes it easier (as my experience). also with similar distance (x1.31) it won't be so far or so close, in which case top-left should be the best place cautz of stuffs around. just a feeling like finding the last note, as if to finish the Unhappy End World, yea I'm serious xD
You need to make the spacing more uniform overall and focus more on a consistent flow to bring this closer to the Normal diff and make the E>N>H spread more solid. This is one of the most problematic diffs at the moment in my opinion.

about gap, if essential I could nerf distance but I really don't want to since ~~it's difficult~~ it's okay imo
Thanks for your modding!

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Lami

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Lami 2017-01-31T15:52:24+00:00

i don't think this gap problem isn't acceptable. because Hard diff kinda hard than 'normal hard' diff.(ofc, i think it's fine about gap, too)
even if insane diff include some jump and kickslider, it's 'normal insane' diff nowadays. because kicksldier isn't hard partten at 'small' DS.
also, i don't think about 'sholud be more solid spread at ENHIXXXXX....'
if my mapset don't include easy diff, i can't complain it anymore.
but mapset already have ENHI, it can enough cover multiple tier player.
"Where should the middle level players(light insane player) go?" if we argue that, every mapset should be have light insane, advanced, too.

Okoratu

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Okoratu 2017-01-31T16:05:59+00:00

since im monitoring the guy who bubblepopped i was asked to post my opinionz

1. Easy looks more like a normal than anything, it's mapped more or less continuously and i don't think anyone who comes from the tutorial who barely learned what sliders are is able to understand what most of this diff is about

I think it's working as the lowest diff of the set but due to the way it's constructed it seems more straightforward to call this a normal

Main point for this is that this difficulty is mostly a bunch of sliders and if you just start out sliders are in effect more difficult to interpret than just circles. You need to read a slider, read repeats if they are there, you need to click a slider, hold a button and follow a slider depending on if it has a repeat or not. Circles are way more simple because you just need to read and click, so constructing your diff with mainly sliders makes it more difficult to read, i think aiming for a more simple balance of sliders and circles with more rest moments would make this an actual easy, but it seems to work fine as a normal too.

2. The last paragraph of easy also applies to normal, patterns like 01:39:080 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 01:17:144 (4,5,6,1,2,3) - etc. are long, clustered and potentially misleading because you need to read short sliders correctly and interpret where to go for a repeat while being essentially stuck inside a sliderchain

places like 01:39:080 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - could be easily simplified if you would just not follow everything at once and e.g. focus the melody: http://i.imgur.com/ajNpfI9.png

by using less dense rhythms the diff will overall be less clustered and way more straightforward to read for the target audience

3. thzz's diff:
kiai and rest of the diff are basically same difficulty (i think kiai should contrast the rest of the difficulty in some way by being harder and the rest of the diff being easier)
01:12:144 (1,2,3,4,1) - is just a random jumppattern lol the rest at least has vocals (compare to 01:10:047 (3,4,5,6,7) - etc. ) it doesn't have vocal backing and sticks out as being somewhat random
01:26:338 (1,2) - should crtlg rhythm?

(side question: so kagetsu's diff is basically an insane with a lot of spacing in the end?)

4. spread in general
so basically e---n-------h----------i----x---x--x-x

doesn't seem balanced at all, especially since the lower part of the set is basically just using approx evenly large gaps between NHI and the rest of the set is much more closer in terms of difficulty? I think that could be handled better

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