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Two_old
this game is depressingly dead
Two_old
can you prod deathxshinigami and diamondcrash please
NoHitter

0_o wrote:

Well I read through everything and I nothing new really popped out at me. I really don't think Two is mafia as I believe all of his actions so far are justified (if not a little overconfident). I don't have any hard evidence against anyone else, but for some reason NoHItter's posts have been rubbing me the wrong way and I can't put my finger on exactly why. So for now I'm just gonna go with my gut and vote NoHItter.
Relying on your gut?
It's Day 2. There should be some amount of proof right now.
You can go back to Day 1 and check the actions of everyone.
Two_old
DiamondCrash has seemed the most suspicious overall to me, but I would rather we lynch Lybydose or deathxshinigami so we can still have some semblance of activity day 3.
DeathxShinigami
Prodding me while not prodding lybydose. @_@ What a shame...
Topic Starter
Yuukari-Banteki
Looking for a replacement for Lybydose.
rust45
Unvote
After reading through, I have to say that my reasons for voting for Two were not very justified at all. I think I was finding him as arrogant and that was why I voted for him, but now I understand that being aggressive towards everyone is just the way he plays. And getting rid of inactives would be a better thing to do. However, I will wait till we see Lybydose's replacement before voting.
0_o

NoHItter wrote:

Relying on your gut?
It's Day 2. There should be some amount of proof right now.
You can go back to Day 1 and check the actions of everyone.
I already did go and read through everything. The focus of all the conversation was either on Two, Nataka or Mashley, the first whom I believe is innocent while the other two are dead. They were the three most active players (with the possible exception of strager, whom I have no reason at the moment to think is mafia) so there really isn't a lot of hard evidence to go on. So yes, for now my vote goes towards gut instinct.

DxS do you have any opinions at all about anyone? If you're gonna join you might as well contribute.
Topic Starter
Yuukari-Banteki
Malachite replaces Lybydose!
Malachite_old
Hello everyone. I am Malachite and I come from the great beyond to play your sport.

I don't have the time to read now, but I hope to get some content to y'all tomorrow.
DeathxShinigami
Oh great, some one shot player just joined, like that's totally better than Lybydose.
0_o

DeathxShinigami wrote:

Oh great, some one shot player just joined, like that's totally better than Lybydose.
He's been about at useful as you so far.
Wojjan
Sizzle!
Two_old
unvote, vote deathxshinigami
NoHitter

Two wrote:

DiamondCrash has seemed the most suspicious overall to me, but I would rather we lynch Lybydose or deathxshinigami so we can still have some semblance of activity day 3.
Can you explain why you find DiamondCrash suspicious?

@Wojjan
You still haven't answered my question.
Wojjan
It's mostly this post that gave it away.
Two_old
just to remind you all, the day ends tomorrow
Topic Starter
Yuukari-Banteki
Taking a quick vote, who thinks this game is worth continuing considering the rampant lurking and flaking going on with almost the entire player population? Vote y to continue, n to abandon.
anonymous_old
y

When I fix some things IRL I'll be able to do a re-read and get involved in this game again.

I've been trying to contact some players via IRC and it hasn't been working. Maybe I'll PM them on the forums.
DeathxShinigami
n

I was just a silent replacement anyways.
bearing019
n
0_o
I'd wait another day at least, might as well get another round of night actions in before calling it quits.

So y
rust45
y
I want to at least be able to see what will happen. But we need more people talking today.
pieguyn
y

I'm only not posting cause I've already said everything I have to say. D:
anonymous_old
I'm working on a re-read of the game thread. Here's what I have so far:

(link) meronmyon is impatient to get the game started; aux/Mafia tell
(link) Oyashiro Beatrice not amused by RVS
(link) Nakata Yuji role fisher baiting
(link) matthewtck votes without bolding, even after SFG explicitly stated in the thread earlier; shows less care about the game thread; Mafia tell
(link) Nakata Yuji "want[s] the day to end"; aux/Mafia tell; hindsight: response to Two's comment about getting more information after Night (link)
(link) Nakata Yuji tries to reverse the effects of her actions; either the aux/Mafia tell was an accident and she's trying to show she's vanilla (more likely, given her little Mafia experience) or she's trying to cover up that she's an aux or Mafia (and if she was Mafia this possibility would be more likely)
(link) (and in a few of the following posts by Nakata) Nakata Yuji shows her inexperience at Mafia
(link) Faceman steps in, showing he's following the thread, bu
t makes no contributions to the discussion at all; aux/Mafia tell
(link) Nakata Yuji clear doesn't know the game... or assumes everyone else playing is a noob (which is highly unlikely)
(link) Faceman plans for the town; Town tell, given my knowledge of his meta; Faceman is the first to use the term "predator", which is odd (as not even SFG has used that word, until the vote count); Mafia tell
(link) Two misses the point of Faceman's argument, perhaps purposefully to discredit Faceman
(link) WIFOM setup?
(link) rust45 makes the naïve statement that lynching always helps the Town; Mafia or newb Town tell (and IIRC rust45 isn't a newb to Mafia)
(link) Oyashiro Beatrice shows detatchment from the game; Mafia tell
(link) Nakata Yuji's "game turning" post
(link) Two's reaction (an unvote), unexplained; in hindsight this is consistent with what Two said Day 2
(link) pieguy1372 expresses his reaction to Two's unvote (namely him thinking Nakata Yuji holds an important role); in hindsight this plays into Two's plan as well; perhaps Two and pieguy1372 were in communication in an attempt to set this up?; even still, pieguy1372 voted for Two, so I don't suspect buddying
(link) Two builds a case against Mashley, mostly based on Two's belief that Mashley emotionally influences readers of his posts; Mashley and Wojjan comment on this rediculous claim as well; something this weak for a relatively experienced player is a definite Mafia tell
(link) Wojjan also uses "predator"; possible Mafia tell
(link) Two's actions seem consistent with the plan he explained Day 2, in hindsight
(link) Nakata Yuji hints at the Splash ability of her role
(link) Two makes a *possible* Freudian slip, stating "when they posted their role"; this is slightly inconsistent with Two's Day 2 explanation in hindsight
(link) Oyashiro Beatrice jumps in without saying anything useful (again)
(link) >_>
(link) Nakata Yuji shows so much naïvity to how the game operates it kinda disturbs me...

I'll post conclusions after I'm done.
Two_old
well I vote yes

I think the issue with inactivity is the actual content of the posts that people make, and not their frequency. We're getting a lot of "I'll re-read the thread and get back to you all kthx" posts, and you should all have a decent enough grasp of how the game has progressed to not even need to do that (though with the confusion you all seem to have it is a good idea). Posts like that widen the gap between posts with actual value and stifle discussion.

On the subject of the game, what is with DeathxShinigami's complete unwillingness to post anything at all? Did you join the game just to annoy us or something? And it's not surprising that DiamondCrash would vote no after I said he was the most suspicious.

And strager I disagree that detachment from the game is a "mafia tell". A lot of people are immature and don't like it when they get roles without much importance, and so they have little interest in the game.
NoHitter
Y
Come on guys we need activity here.

strager wrote:

(link) Faceman plans for the town; Town tell, given my knowledge of his meta; Faceman is the first to use the term "predator", which is odd (as not even SFG has used that word, until the vote count); Mafia tell
I'll post conclusions after I'm done.
Actually SFG used "predator" in the opening post. I doubt that it's a mafia tell per se.
Though now that you mention it, we never used predator to refer to scum before. Really odd why Faceman would use that term.
Two_old
Yes, let's highlight the fact that predator was likely in his role pm. That's super smart and pro-town. (I didn't even notice strager pointing it out)

edit: since today is the last day? and everyone seems reluctant to vote on anything except the continuation of this game, I'm going to just unvote, vote: NoHItter

if it's between me and you dawg I'm going to pick me
DeathxShinigami
Vote: Two
Topic Starter
Yuukari-Banteki
Good Night Votecount

pieguy1372 (0)
strager (0)
0_o (0)
DiamondCrash (0)
NoHitter (2) - Wojjan, Two
Malachite -
DeathxShinigami (0) -
Two (4) - strager, pieguy1372, NoHitter, DeathxShinigami

Wojjan (0)
rust45 (0)

Not Voting (4) - 0_o, DiamondCrash, Malachite, rust45


With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch...
At deadline the person with the most votes on them is lynched!
Two has been lynched!



Once again, the fish gather around a sandy shore, ready to toss one of their own onto the beach to suffocate. After great arguments, they have chosen Two for this unpleasant fate.
"He's been acting kind of...fishy...lately. Who knows what kind of mischief he's up to! Kill him!"
The school hesitantly agreed, and flipped Two up onto the deadly dunes. Two's body contorted with attempts to get back into the ocean, and finding no purchase on the sand, he snarled at the school.
"You'll see. You'll all die for this. All of you! I will be...avenged..."

Two, Piranha (mafia) has been lynched!
It is now night. I will establish a deadline for night once I have found a replacement for Malachite. Please send in your night actions by the deadline, or they will be randomized. Invalid night actions will also be randomized.
Two_old
In chronological order:

strager
Vote: Two
pieguy1372
Vote: Two
Wojjan
oh, vote: NoHItter
0_o
So for now I'm just gonna go with my gut and vote NoHItter.
Two
I'm going to just unvote, vote: NoHItter
DeathxShinigami
Vote: Two
So, we both had 2 votes before the final two posts, and I voted for NoHItter before DeathxShinigami voted for me. I shouldn't have been lynched, game is broken etc.

It would have been 5 town 2 mafia day 3, so it's a mafia win in my opinion. I don't want to see that bs Ace pulled when town clearly won that game :(

To illustrate: 10:3 -> 5:2 -> 0:1, 1 = won
Topic Starter
Yuukari-Banteki
Okay, I messed up the votecount, sorry about that. Not much I can do now that you've flipped except tell you that even with 2 mafia to 3 town, they still would have had another lynch on you, and that's assuming that everyone left is town.
Two_old
Not much you can do now that I've flipped? Don't you mean that there's not much you can do now that you posted my role without double checking votes? See my "illustration" for why the mafia won thx.
Topic Starter
Yuukari-Banteki
The game would not have ended at that point regardless of who died.
Two_old
Yes but now that is has ended, when you look at the standings, mafia are in the positive and town are in the negative. They've lost 5 to our 1. We win.
Topic Starter
Yuukari-Banteki
I don't think you understand. To win, the mafia has to control the majority of the town while no other roles with the ability to kill are alive. This requires at least having as many mafia members as town members alive at some point in time. You have not achieved this, nor would you have if NoHitter had been lynched.
Two_old
No, you don't understand. To win, the town has to eliminate all mafia before they are eliminated themselves. The town has not done their end, either. However, there is a side 'in the lead', and that's mafia. The only part you could argue is that an aux could have killed one of us overnight, and so I propose that we settle this by having whoever would have killed someone tonight take a stab at the last mafia member. If they guess right, town wins. If not, we win.
Topic Starter
Yuukari-Banteki
I am changing the activity policy. Slots will, after I have found a replacement for Malachite, be modkilled rather than replaced.

Edit: having carefully considered the lynch issue and the replacement issue, I have come to a decision. NoHitter has also been lynched since he was the rightful target of the lynch mob. Malachite has been modkilled for consistent inactivity.

NoHitter was a Lanternfish (Post-restriced Tracker, town)
Malachite was a Mackerel (town)


If anyone has any questions about what exactly a Tracker is, or the same for any other role that flips, they can pm me and I will give a general outline. Deadline for Night is September 18th. Thank you and have a nice night.
Topic Starter
Yuukari-Banteki
The night is over, the dawn has come! And what an incredibly red dawn it is as the fish wake to the bodies of not one, nor even two, but THREE fish floating in the water. rust45, 0_o, and strager all lie dead before your eyes, staring vacantly into the depths of the ocean. On closer inspection, the fish notice that strager's mouth contains an unusually large number of sharp pointed teeth, in fact very very similar to the ones possessed by matthewtck and Two. Quite reasonably, they conclude that he was also a Piranha.
0_o, on the other had, has a sad little red body with the few white stripes on it dyed red by blood. Alas for the poor little Clownfish, now dead.
rust45's body, the fish also find to be unusually...large. Like, really large. As in, bigger than an entire school of fish would normally be large. Noting the baleen in his mouth and the great horn, tinged with blood that does not belong to him, the fish conclude that rust45 was a Narwhal.

strager, Piranha (mafia)

0_o, Clownfish (town) and
rust45, Narwhal (Night Vigilante, town)


are now dead and out of the game. With 4 alive, it takes 3 votes to lynch! Be careful, there is still a killer amongst you!
Wojjan
Well I guess this is as good of a time as any to claim cop and tell you DC is guilty.
DeathxShinigami
DC's guilty what.
Topic Starter
Yuukari-Banteki
Sending out prods to pieguy and DiamondCrash
bearing019
Nice try Wojjan, but that little gambit isn't gonna work. Unless you're some kind of Insane Cop, which I somehow doubt. Pray tell who else you investigated and why.
pieguyn
If no one else claims Cop we can assume Wojjan is one because I'd figure there is one, and one hasn't died yet. Anyway, just in case I would like to know who Wojjan checked if he really is Cop.
DeathxShinigami
Good god pieguy! why out of all the avatars you choose you choose that one as your first avatar !_!

Anyways... just saying since Wojjan almost never has a civilian role, he/she must have cop. I'm not a cop btw.
Wojjan
No I'm not actually cop I was just testing for reactions.
Vote: DC
DeathxShinigami
How odd, could Wojjan actually be civilian? Only time will tell. I'll hold my vote for another IRL day.
Wojjan
No I'm not a civvie, my role is an anemone. Whoever targets me at night gets automatic protection.
DeathxShinigami
Ha, that says a lot, forget what I said earlier.

Vote: DC
bearing019
Why are you voting for me again
Wojjan
gee whiz cause you're mafia?
Topic Starter
Yuukari-Banteki
This Thread is Almost Dead Votecount!

pieguy1372 (0)
DiamondCrash (2) - Wojjan, DeathxShinigami
DeathxShingami (0)
Wojjan (0)

Not Voting (2) - pieguy1372, DiamondCrash


With 4 alive, it takes 3 to lynch!
DiamondCrash is at l-1!
Wojjan
Hey piegguy where the hell are you?
pieguyn
Whoa, did we figure something out? o_O

Also, I personally find it suspicious that you said DC was Mafia when the killer who's left is almost certainly a Serial Killer. o_o
Wojjan
well that's because I'm not cop. How could I know
DeathxShinigami
Anyways~ if you're sure about yourself wojjan then vote again for DC.
Wojjan
I never unvoted.
DeathxShinigami
And we wait even more so we can move on...
Topic Starter
Yuukari-Banteki
Prods have been sent out to DiamondCrash and pieguy1372. If either requires prodding again, they will be modkilled.
bearing019
So I'm town. Discuss.
Wojjan
noway lol
bearing019
with a face like this I have to be
pieguyn
Aaaaaa

Let's just get this over with. Vote: DiamondCrash
anonymous_old
Jeez guys. Have you even communicated outside of the thread?

Just end the game now, please.
Wojjan
well no one ever says anything unless they're being voted.
It's 4-way mylo without cops, we can't win this.
Topic Starter
Yuukari-Banteki
Game Over Votecount!

pieguy1372 (0)
DiamondCrash (2) - Wojjan, DeathxShinigami, pieguy1372
DeathxShingami (0)
Wojjan (0)

Not Voting (1) - DiamondCrash


With 4 alive, it takes 3 to lynch!

DiamondCrash, Trout (town) has been lynched!
Wojjan, Anemone (Reflex Doctor, town) and pieguy1372, yellowtail (town) have been killed in endgame!
DeathxShinigami, Shark (Serial Killer) has won!
Wojjan
wow dxs youd figure you'd at least kill me because lolololol mafia bond
DeathxShinigami
Sorry darling but this time I wanted the spotlight ;)
0_o
so who killed me and what's a reflex doctor?
Wojjan
autoprotect upon visits, for both cops and mafia
Topic Starter
Yuukari-Banteki
Reflex Doctor automatically protects anyone who targets them, be it with a kill, splash, or any other action in between.
pieguyn
Lol.

I knew DC wasn't the killer, I just wanted the game over with. D:

EDIT: I just realized the game shouldn't have ended here. If there was a Doctor remaining, there was a chance of no one dying (if I target the Doctor and the killer targets me), where it would be 2 town:1 killer and we'd have another chance of winning. (Unless I'm mistaken)
NoHitter
I knew DxS was the SK btw. You didn't respond to my PM :|
rust45
I was really stupid in this game. I trusted strager with my role, and I killed faceman.
NoHitter
SFG: Night actions and role PMs?
anonymous_old

rust45 wrote:

I was really stupid in this game. I trusted strager with my role, and I killed faceman.
\:D/
Mashley

rust45 wrote:

I was really stupid in this game. I trusted strager with my role
Two_old

rust45 wrote:

strager was really stupid in this game.
anonymous_old

Two wrote:

rust45 wrote:

strager was really stupid in this game.
I was after making the game fun (for me), not systematically winning the game.
Topic Starter
Yuukari-Banteki
Night actions

N1
- NoHitter tracks 0_o
- 0_o splashes matthewtck
- Nakata Yuji splashes strager
- Two kills Nakata Yuji
- Pieguy refrains from actioning
- Strager splashes Mashley, which doesn’t work because Mashley is dead. Instead, splashes DiamondCrash
- Rust45 refrains from actioning
- Matthewtck, DiamondCrash, Lybydose, and Meronmyon fail to submit actions
o Matthewtck randomly splashes matthewtck
o DiamondCrash randomly splashes pieguy
o Lybydose randomly splashes pieguy
o Meronmyon randomly kills matthewtck

N2
- 0_o splashes DeathxShingami
- DeathxShinigami kills strager
- Strager kills rust45
- Pieguy1372 refrains from actioning
- Rust45 kills 0_o
- DiamondCrash fails to submit an action (DiamondCrash randomly splashes rust45)
anonymous_old

SFG wrote:

Strager
...
Two_old
o Meronmyon randomly kills matthewtck
next time don't make it obvious that he died before the night even started
anonymous_old
And rust, don't make it obvious you're aux Day 1.
Topic Starter
Yuukari-Banteki

Two wrote:

o Meronmyon randomly kills matthewtck
next time don't make it obvious that he died before the night even started
Two, darling, I rolled the die to determine who meronmyon killed, as well as all other night actions that were not submitted, at the end of Night 1, not before Day 1 ended.
rust45

strager wrote:

And rust, don't make it obvious you're aux Day 1.

rust45 wrote:

I was really stupid in this game
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