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Twice_old

Twice_old 2012-11-21T16:08:03+00:00

[Purist's normal]

其实为什么很多modder都不太赞同这种note和slider连起来的铺面呢，主要是因为默认皮肤打出的300会严重遮挡视线导致影响读图。
虽然说现在大部分人都知道用透明300的皮肤了，但是在这种低难度的情况下个人还是不建议用这种很粘的铺面。毕竟新手不懂透明皮肤..
我给的解决办法就是使用自制皮肤，弄个比较不遮挡的300，不然就是把间距都重新调一下。

00:21:509(2) 感觉有点太下面 OWO 移到x:328 y:352如何？当然后面的note也要记得调整一下间距唷-w-
00:28:954(1) ^ x:304 y:240
00:39:217(2) 间距有点小问题0w0 估计是没有移好？
01:13:164(1) 感觉在normal里还是不要用这种比较好-w-有点误导意味？
01:28:954(3) nc
01:30:533(1) 取消nc
03:24:217(2) 个人感觉也有点太下面了-w-?建议改个地方

[Hard]

00:35:270(6) 间距问题顺便加个nc？
00:38:428(5) nc
00:39:217(1) 取消nc
00:41:586(6) nc
00:43:164(1) 取消nc
00:44:743(4) nc
00:47:507(9) nc
00:47:901(1) 间距嘛...还是建议改一下然后顺便取消nc
01:13:164(6) nc
01:23:033(3) 间距问题..嘛
01:40:796(4) ^
01:41:586到01:42:770 间距什么的o.o
01:57:375(7) nc
02:03:691(6) 可n可不n
02:07:638(2) 感觉是可以要用这种间距，但是我还是不建议/.\
02:10:007(1) 间距问题
02:40:401(6) @神奇的间距君
02:55:795(1) ^
02:57:375(5) nc
03:09:217(4) 一样的间距问题
03:10:796(2) ^
03:16:322(6) nc
03:16:717(1) 取消nc
03:17:901(1) ^
03:25:796(7) nc
03:36:059(2) 一样的间距问题
03:44:743(1) ^
03:56:919(6) ^

总感觉好像看到了当年自己做的第二张图_(:з」∠)_

[Kira]

00:35:270(6) 建议nc
01:23:625(4)到01:24:217(7) 感觉这个间距有点突然，可以省去
01:50:664(1)和01:50:862(2) ^

懒得看完了_(:з」∠)_剩下的就交给其他人吧! 学长只能帮你到这里了（正色
感觉mapper间距的使用还不是很熟练，嘛这东西也就自己意会吧;w; 只可意会不可言传？加油！！

我就是喜欢帮助可爱的新人:3 我是好人才不会乱喷呢

XinCrin

2,845 posts

Joined January 2012

XinCrin 2012-11-22T05:28:55+00:00

Go !__Ag you can rank this

__Ag

614 posts

Joined July 2011

Topic Starter

__Ag 2012-11-27T09:45:25+00:00

Twice wrote:
[Purist's normal]

其实为什么很多modder都不太赞同这种note和slider连起来的铺面呢，主要是因为默认皮肤打出的300会严重遮挡视线导致影响读图。
虽然说现在大部分人都知道用透明300的皮肤了，但是在这种低难度的情况下个人还是不建议用这种很粘的铺面。毕竟新手不懂透明皮肤..
我给的解决办法就是使用自制皮肤，弄个比较不遮挡的300，不然就是把间距都重新调一下。

00:21:509(2) 感觉有点太下面 OWO 移到x:328 y:352如何？当然后面的note也要记得调整一下间距唷-w-
00:28:954(1) ^ x:304 y:240
00:39:217(2) 间距有点小问题0w0 估计是没有移好？*
01:13:164(1) 感觉在normal里还是不要用这种比较好-w-有点误导意味？
01:28:954(3) nc*
01:30:533(1) 取消nc*
03:24:217(2) 个人感觉也有点太下面了-w-?建议改个地方*

[Hard]

00:35:270(6) 间距问题顺便加个nc？*
00:38:428(5) nc*
00:39:217(1) 取消nc*
00:41:586(6) nc*
00:43:164(1) 取消nc*
00:44:743(4) nc*
00:47:507(9) nc*
00:47:901(1) 间距嘛...还是建议改一下然后顺便取消nc*
01:13:164(6) nc*
01:23:033(3) 间距问题..嘛
01:40:796(4) ^
01:41:586到01:42:770 间距什么的o.o
01:57:375(7) nc*
02:03:691(6) 可n可不n
02:07:638(2) 感觉是可以要用这种间距，但是我还是不建议/.\
02:10:007(1) 间距问题*
02:40:401(6) @神奇的间距君
02:55:795(1) ^
02:57:375(5) nc*
03:09:217(4) 一样的间距问题
03:10:796(2) ^
03:16:322(6) nc*
03:16:717(1) 取消nc*
03:17:901(1) ^
03:25:796(7) nc*
03:36:059(2) 一样的间距问题
03:44:743(1) ^
03:56:919(6) ^

总感觉好像看到了当年自己做的第二张图_(:з」∠)_

[Kira]

00:35:270(6) 建议nc*
01:23:625(4)到01:24:217(7) 感觉这个间距有点突然，可以省去
01:50:664(1)和01:50:862(2) ^

懒得看完了_(:з」∠)_剩下的就交给其他人吧! 学长只能帮你到这里了（正色
感觉mapper间距的使用还不是很熟练，嘛这东西也就自己意会吧;w; 只可意会不可言传？加油！！

我就是喜欢帮助可爱的新人:3 我是好人才不会乱喷呢

*的地方已修改，谢谢你的精神和帮助

__Ag

614 posts

Joined July 2011

Topic Starter

__Ag 2012-11-27T09:47:17+00:00

XinCrin wrote:
Go !__Ag you can rank this

its so difficult:(,thanks

Rotte

582 posts

Joined October 2011

Rotte 2012-11-28T02:52:57+00:00

好图~~go

Zero__wind

osu! Alumni

3,314 posts

Joined August 2012

Zero__wind 2012-12-10T02:50:33+00:00

I'm here asking for m4m if you don't mind
[/color]
Remove countdown?

Normal
HDR is what you want in such a slow map like this ?

Hard
00:29:349 (2,4) - why there are no clpas on these two notes ?
00:34:875 (2) - weid finish sound, change back to clap
00:39:217 (2) - ^
00:39:612 (3) - and etc. if you changed the hitsound above, you may have to change a series of claps' timing
00:48:296 (2,3) - claps too close
why are there no whistles on short reverses like this01:19:086 (1,2) - and 01:34:480 (1,2) - etc.
02:17:901 (3) - add whistles ?
02:41:980 (1,2,3) - maybe move to (304,168) or so ,just let them be seperate with the latter slider (you may also change the slider a bit)
03:12:770 (5) - move the new combo from next slider to this note in order follw the vocal
03:14:743 (3) - adjust this slider's velocity to 0.75x(don't change anything else), I thought it would be nice
03:50:664 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - three notes before a sider, I think it's weird, players may easily tap only three times(not four) maybe consider to change the pattern here? maybe like this 3+1 http://puu.sh/1ze17 ?
04:07:638 (2,3) - CTRL+G ? just a suggestion

Kira
Nice diff, for the rhythm is not always the same speed. Faster parts and slower parts combined together makes people feel good
01:14:743 (4,5,6,7,8) - may whistle to them ? if you did, then also lower the volume of the whistles
02:05:270 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
03:33:691 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
03:46:322 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
01:19:085 (1,2) - whistles, as I already suggested in hard diff
01:31:322 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - and etc. ^
01:28:164 (5) - maybe add new combo here, too counfusing

up to you
01:57:375 (4,5,1,2) - maybe to let these jumping slders completely the same place? maybe make 01:58:164 (1,2) - both a bit downleft or upright? It's not because of confusing, just change to feel good I think
03:56:980 (1,2,3,4) - ^ (if you did not change the placement here, then hope you neccessarily add new combo to 03:57:375 (3) - )

Ok that's all I can find
good luck, really looking forward to the Kira diff ^_^
and this is my map waiting for modding http://osu.ppy.sh/s/58412 hope you like the song

__Ag

614 posts

Joined July 2011

Topic Starter

__Ag 2012-12-15T17:47:39+00:00

Zero__wind wrote:
I'm here asking for m4m if you don't mind
[/color]
Remove countdown?

Normal
HDR is what you want in such a slow map like this ?

Hard
00:29:349 (2,4) - why there are no clpas on these two notes ?
00:34:875 (2) - weid finish sound, change back to clap
00:39:217 (2) - ^
00:39:612 (3) - and etc. if you changed the hitsound above, you may have to change a series of claps' timing*
00:48:296 (2,3) - claps too close
why are there no whistles on short reverses like this01:19:086 (1,2) - and 01:34:480 (1,2) - etc.
02:17:901 (3) - add whistles ?
02:41:980 (1,2,3) - maybe move to (304,168) or so ,just let them be seperate with the latter slider (you may also change the slider a bit)
03:12:770 (5) - move the new combo from next slider to this note in order follw the vocal
03:14:743 (3) - adjust this slider's velocity to 0.75x(don't change anything else), I thought it would be nice
03:50:664 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - three notes before a sider, I think it's weird, players may easily tap only three times(not four) maybe consider to change the pattern here? maybe like this 3+1 http://puu.sh/1ze17 ?*
04:07:638 (2,3) - CTRL+G ? just a suggestion

Kira
Nice diff, for the rhythm is not always the same speed. Faster parts and slower parts combined together makes people feel good
01:14:743 (4,5,6,7,8) - may whistle to them ? if you did, then also lower the volume of the whistles
02:05:270 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
03:33:691 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
03:46:322 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
01:19:085 (1,2) - whistles, as I already suggested in hard diff
01:31:322 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - and etc. ^
01:28:164 (5) - maybe add new combo here, too counfusing up to you
01:57:375 (4,5,1,2) - maybe to let these jumping slders completely the same place? maybe make 01:58:164 (1,2) - both a bit downleft or upright? It's not because of confusing, just change to feel good I think
03:56:980 (1,2,3,4) - ^ (if you did not change the placement here, then hope you neccessarily add new combo to 03:57:375 (3) - )

Ok that's all I can find
good luck, really looking forward to the Kira diff ^_^
and this is my map waiting for modding http://osu.ppy.sh/s/58412 hope you like the song

除了打*我没fix其他都fix了，英文我真的无力了，虽然有些没看懂，大概意思是明白了...吧...谢谢你的mod，你的图我稍后去看看

Mei_coN

372 posts

Joined March 2009

Mei_coN 2012-12-16T07:08:59+00:00

Hi~ request from PM

很水的mod不要介意233,觉得有用就改吧=w=

话说Source没有么0 0

Normal:
00:48:691(1)- slider尾add clap
00:49:480(2)- slider头add whistle尾add clap,感觉整首歌都可以1whistle3clap这样加,有些地方只有whistle没有clap可以补上.
01:13:164(1)- 跟前一个note距离太近了,normal还是最好按着DS排
01:17:112(2,3,4)- 这里也是间距问题
01:18:691(3)- 去掉note在 01:18:296- add一个1/2slider
01:35:664- 折返去掉clap
01:54:217(1)- add finish(可以考虑降音量)
03:22:638(1)- ^
03:35:270(1)- ^
03:58:954(1)- ^
04:06:849(1,2,1,2,1,2)- 补上音效...

Hard:
圈圈大小-1(个人意见)
2,4clap音效并不适合这歌,像normal的1whistle3clap更好,没人声的地方1,3whistle
00:25:796(1)- add finish(降低音量)
00:31:717(7)- 去掉finish?
00:36:849(1,2,3,4)- 可以做个音量渐变加大
00:38:428(1)- slider头add finish(降低音量)
01:27:375(1,2,3,4)- 可以做个音量渐变加大
01:32:112(1)- 去掉finish?
01:40:007(3,4,5)- 可以做个音量渐变加大
01:41:191(5)- finish换到下一个slider的头
01:54:217(1)- slider头add finish
01:55:007(3,4,5,6)- 左右对称比较好
02:17:901(3)- 减少1个折返
02:55:796(1,2,3,4)- 可以做个音量渐变加大
03:00:533(1)- 去掉finish?
03:08:428(3,4,5)- 同 01:40:007(3,4,5)-
03:09:612(5)- 同 01:41:191(5)-
03:22:638(1)- 同 01:54:217(1)-
03:24:217(3,4,5,6)- 同 01:55:007(3,4,5,6)-
03:51:059(3)- 去掉note,把后一个slider拉到这时间然后加多一个折返

Kira:
音效方面还是不适合24clap,可以在1whistle3clap基础上再添加新的加法,具体我会給例子你参考下,还有slider最好静音
00:25:007(5,6)- 放到正中,前面的1,2,3,4可以适当调调位置
00:36:849(1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8)- 音量渐变加大,可以做个间距渐变加大的跳
00:38:428(1)- add finish
00:39:217(4)- 去掉finish
00:45:138(1)- 可以考虑跟前面的6重叠
01:09:612(1)- 对齐中线
01:27:375(1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4)- 音量渐变加大
01:40:007(6,7,8,9,10,1)- ^
01:41:191(1)- finish换到后一个slider头
01:48:296(1,2,3,1,2,3)- 可以做个渐变大的三角跳
01:54:217(1)- add finish(减低音量)
02:07:638(5)- NC
02:12:375- add note
02:13:954(4)- NC
02:45:536(4)- NC
02:48:296(8)- slider换成1个note
02:55:796(1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8)- 音量渐变加大
02:59:743(3)- NC
03:01:914(6)- NC
03:08:428(4,5,6,7,8,9)- 音量渐变加大,9去掉finish
03:22:638(1)- add finish
03:29:349(2)- NC
03:34:875(8)- 去掉finish?
03:54:612(2)- NC
04:03:691(8)- NC
04:04:678- add note?

感觉排列还可以整洁一些,这里就不具体mod了,射个星星

__Ag

614 posts

Joined July 2011

Topic Starter

__Ag 2012-12-16T09:11:25+00:00

Mei_coN wrote:
Hi~ request from PM

很水的mod不要介意233,觉得有用就改吧=w=

话说Source没有么0 0 因为不知道出处是哪里，就没填了

Normal:
00:48:691(1)- slider尾add clap
00:49:480(2)- slider头add whistle尾add clap,感觉整首歌都可以1whistle3clap这样加,有些地方只有whistle没有clap可以补上.
01:13:164(1)- 跟前一个note距离太近了,normal还是最好按着DS排*
01:17:112(2,3,4)- 这里也是间距问题
01:18:691(3)- 去掉note在 01:18:296- add一个1/2slider
01:35:664- 折返去掉clap
01:54:217(1)- add finish(可以考虑降音量)
03:22:638(1)- ^
03:35:270(1)- ^
03:58:954(1)- ^
04:06:849(1,2,1,2,1,2)- 补上音效...

Hard:
圈圈大小-1(个人意见)*
2,4clap音效并不适合这歌,像normal的1whistle3clap更好,没人声的地方1,3whistle
00:25:796(1)- add finish(降低音量)
00:31:717(7)- 去掉finish?*
00:36:849(1,2,3,4)- 可以做个音量渐变加大
00:38:428(1)- slider头add finish(降低音量)
01:27:375(1,2,3,4)- 可以做个音量渐变加大
01:32:112(1)- 去掉finish?*
01:40:007(3,4,5)- 可以做个音量渐变加大
01:41:191(5)- finish换到下一个slider的头
01:54:217(1)- slider头add finish
01:55:007(3,4,5,6)- 左右对称比较好*
02:17:901(3)- 减少1个折返
02:55:796(1,2,3,4)- 可以做个音量渐变加大
03:00:533(1)- 去掉finish?*
03:08:428(3,4,5)- 同 01:40:007(3,4,5)-
03:09:612(5)- 同 01:41:191(5)-
03:22:638(1)- 同 01:54:217(1)-
03:24:217(3,4,5,6)- 同 01:55:007(3,4,5,6)-*
03:51:059(3)- 去掉note,把后一个slider拉到这时间然后加多一个折返

Kira:
音效方面还是不适合24clap,可以在1whistle3clap基础上再添加新的加法,具体我会給例子你参考下,还有slider最好静音
00:25:007(5,6)- 放到正中,前面的1,2,3,4可以适当调调位置
00:36:849(1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8)- 音量渐变加大,可以做个间距渐变加大的跳*
00:38:428(1)- add finish
00:39:217(4)- 去掉finish
00:45:138(1)- 可以考虑跟前面的6重叠
01:09:612(1)- 对齐中线
01:27:375(1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4)- 音量渐变加大*
01:40:007(6,7,8,9,10,1)- ^*
01:41:191(1)- finish换到后一个slider头
01:48:296(1,2,3,1,2,3)- 可以做个渐变大的三角跳
01:54:217(1)- add finish(减低音量)
02:07:638(5)- NC
02:12:375- add note
02:13:954(4)- NC
02:45:536(4)- NC
02:48:296(8)- slider换成1个note*
02:55:796(1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8)- 音量渐变加大*
02:59:743(3)- NC
03:01:914(6)- NC
03:08:428(4,5,6,7,8,9)- 音量渐变加大*,9去掉finish
03:22:638(1)- add finish
03:29:349(2)- NC
03:34:875(8)- 去掉finish?
03:54:612(2)- NC
04:03:691(8)- NC
04:04:678- add note?*

感觉排列还可以整洁一些,这里就不具体mod了,射个星星

*的地方我保留了，其他都fixed了，感谢你的mod2333

Midasmens

507 posts

Joined June 2011

Midasmens 2012-12-20T20:18:21+00:00

小米來看圖~
Request in-game

拖了好久真對不起~ >.<

General
強烈建議加一個無聲的soft-sliderslide音效~感覺整首曲子應該是比較安靜的~
其它還好~

Purist's normal
00:25:796 (1) - 考慮加一個30%的finish~很明顯的哦~
00:35:270 (1) - 不明白爲什麽要降低音量
00:39:217 (2) - 去NC吧~ 這裡沒有NC強調的必要哦~
00:51:059 (3) - 40% imo.
01:03:789 - （吐槽）這裡怎麼有個”哔“ 囧
01:12:375 (4,1) - 這裡spacing不怎麼好要不重疊起來~要不分開一點~新手遇到這裡可能會早按的
01:31:322 (3) - 再折返一次~長白縣上有個音的說
01:38:428 (1) - 再一次意義不明的降低了音效
01:41:586 (1) - 首先這裡跳躍好大~對於normal有點難呢~~其次就是遮擋問題了~新手會因為spinner最後出現的”押忍“擋住了slider的頭部而苦惱~這個在hard和insane里面可以無視~但是在最低難度就要注意了哦！

SPOILER

02:19:480 - 02:51:454 這段的NC很混亂~沒有理由為折返單獨NC吧總之最好改一下~ 下面是小米的NC列表~ 經供參考啦 >.<

SPOILER

02:22:243 (1) - 去NC
02:22:638 (2) - NC
02:28:559 (1) - 去NC
02:28:954 (2) - NC
02:34:875 (1) - 去NC
02:35:270 (2) - NC
02:41:191 (1) - 去NC
02:41:586 (2) - NC
02:47:507 (1) - 去NC
02:50:664 (1) - 去NC

02:57:375 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - 你看你這裡就沒有把折返NC嘛~就應該如此的說
03:22:638 (1) - 尾巴被前面的slider尾部遮擋了~~前面的slider如果打出”激“這個slider會對新人有視覺障礙的吶~
04:11:586 (1) - 這個spinner最好開頭也靜音哦~
Normal就這些吧~~排列還不錯音效似乎有待加強呢~總之不錯啦
~~~~~~

Hard
00:25:796 (1,2,3,4) - 是想做對稱麽~~ 如果是的話這裡往右邊歪了
00:29:349 (2) - 歪了~ 調到x:331,y:131
00:36:750 - 如果是小米的話~~這裡會用30%音量後面依次增加10%
00:48:296 (2) - 怎麽clap不見了~ 加在開頭？
00:49:086 (4) - ^
01:14:743 (3) - 這裡spacing不可取~~打破了一定跳躍的規律呢
01:27:276 - 和前面同理哦~
01:38:428 (1,2,3) - 這裡spacing又感覺不對了呢~~分開放置來點跳躍
01:49:480 (3) - 去掉NC
01:54:217 (1) - 結尾的finish太吵了
02:51:454 - 加個音
03:06:849 (1,2,3) - 和之前同理
03:52:441 - 加個音
03:59:349 (5) - 移到 03:59:546 如何？然後再同6曡在一起？
04:08:033 (3,4) - 都最後了~這個跳有點突然~也沒有跳的價值呢
04:12:178 (1) - spinner完全消音
典型的新手圖哦~~按照spacing然後很機械的排列起來~~
（吐槽）clap音效沒錯~~不過機械的放置很破壞曲子的整體氛圍呢~ 要加強音效
~~~~~~

Kira
00:14:743 (4,5,6,7) - 梗不錯~不過略感覺不適合往返呢 ~囧~
00:16:322 (3,4,5,6) - 太緊了~~這是Insane吧~應該要自由發揮了
00:23:822 (4) - flow感突然不見了~
00:36:849 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 不如來兩個星星~~還能做到營造夜空星星的氛圍感~ 做到”點題“的目的
00:40:796 (1,2,3,4) - 跳躍的不夠~
01:23:033 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 漸近變換比較好~~現在感覺好奇怪哦
01:29:743 (3) - 如果是我的話~會用一個變數slider填掉後面的空擋~~現在這裡突然頓住了
01:39:612 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - 有星星的意圖~~好樣的~排的再好看一點吧
02:08:428 (1) - 去NC
02:08:822 (2) - NC
02:14:743 (1) - 去NC
02:15:138 (2) - NC
02:38:033 (9) - 這裡明顯要跳~
02:40:007 (1) - 這裡應該不要跳吧~ 囧
02:45:336 - 爲什麽停頓？
03:35:270 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 對稱了
04:12:178 (1) - 靜音
總體來説是施展不開來~體現不了insane的感覺~~原因是作圖經驗不夠~分寸的把握還不熟練
應該能做些跳躍的地方卻擠在一起~~會不好的說~
~~~~~~

優點是能玩~~缺點是不好玩啦~ （亮點有點少呢）
不過這是個好的開頭哦~~第一次做圖要鼓勵啦~從每張圖里面體會學習一些東西~~慢慢的就會好的
加油！

٩(๑╹◡╹๑)۶

ShiroiYume

13 posts

Joined October 2012

ShiroiYume 2012-12-20T21:56:35+00:00

Hi! Thnxs for asking me for modding, but I think that your map is perfect. (just take out the "3,2,1,go" thing)

__Ag

614 posts

Joined July 2011

Topic Starter

__Ag 2013-02-02T07:54:24+00:00

Midasmens wrote:
小米來看圖~
Request in-game

拖了好久真對不起~ >.<

General
強烈建議加一個無聲的soft-sliderslide音效~感覺整首曲子應該是比較安靜的~
其它還好~哭了,这个就无视了好不好QAQ

Purist's normal
00:25:796 (1) - 考慮加一個30%的finish~很明顯的哦~*
00:35:270 (1) - 不明白爲什麽要降低音量不太明白
00:39:217 (2) - 去NC吧~ 這裡沒有NC強調的必要哦~*
00:51:059 (3) - 40% imo.
01:03:789 - （吐槽）這裡怎麼有個”哔“ 囧就当是槽点吧Orzzz
01:12:375 (4,1) - 這裡spacing不怎麼好要不重疊起來~要不分開一點~新手遇到這裡可能會早按的
01:31:322 (3) - 再折返一次~長白縣上有個音的說*
01:38:428 (1) - 再一次意義不明的降低了音效
01:41:586 (1) - 首先這裡跳躍好大~對於normal有點難呢~~其次就是遮擋問題了~新手會因為spinner最後出現的”押忍“擋住了slider的頭部而苦惱~這個在hard和insane里面可以無視~但是在最低難度就要注意了哦！
SPOILER
02:19:480 - 02:51:454 這段的NC很混亂~沒有理由為折返單獨NC吧總之最好改一下~ 下面是小米的NC列表~ 經供參考啦 >.<
SPOILER
02:22:243 (1) - 去NC
02:22:638 (2) - NC
02:28:559 (1) - 去NC
02:28:954 (2) - NC
02:34:875 (1) - 去NC
02:35:270 (2) - NC
02:41:191 (1) - 去NC
02:41:586 (2) - NC
02:47:507 (1) - 去NC
02:50:664 (1) - 去NC
02:57:375 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - 你看你這裡就沒有把折返NC嘛~就應該如此的說
03:22:638 (1) - 尾巴被前面的slider尾部遮擋了~~前面的slider如果打出”激“這個slider會對新人有視覺障礙的吶~
04:11:586 (1) - 這個spinner最好開頭也靜音哦~
Normal就這些吧~~排列還不錯音效似乎有待加強呢~總之不錯啦
~~~~~~GD的用意我还是先保持沉默好了

Hard
00:25:796 (1,2,3,4) - 是想做對稱麽~~ 如果是的話這裡往右邊歪了*
00:29:349 (2) - 歪了~ 調到x:331,y:131*
00:36:750 - 如果是小米的話~~這裡會用30%音量後面依次增加10%
00:48:296 (2) - 怎麽clap不見了~ 加在開頭？*
00:49:086 (4) - ^*
01:14:743 (3) - 這裡spacing不可取~~打破了一定跳躍的規律呢*
01:27:276 - 和前面同理哦~*
01:38:428 (1,2,3) - 這裡spacing又感覺不對了呢~~分開放置來點跳躍*
01:49:480 (3) - 去掉NC*
01:54:217 (1) - 結尾的finish太吵了*
02:51:454 - 加個音*
03:06:849 (1,2,3) - 和之前同理
03:52:441 - 加個音*
03:59:349 (5) - 移到 03:59:546 如何？然後再同6曡在一起？*
04:08:033 (3,4) - 都最後了~這個跳有點突然~也沒有跳的價值呢
04:12:178 (1) - spinner完全消音*
典型的新手圖哦~~按照spacing然後很機械的排列起來~~
（吐槽）clap音效沒錯~~不過機械的放置很破壞曲子的整體氛圍呢~ 要加強音效
~~~~~~

Kira
00:14:743 (4,5,6,7) - 梗不錯~不過略感覺不適合往返呢 ~囧~
00:16:322 (3,4,5,6) - 太緊了~~這是Insane吧~應該要自由發揮了我实在不敢发挥了，之前被喷成翔了
00:23:822 (4) - flow感突然不見了~
00:36:849 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 不如來兩個星星~~還能做到營造夜空星星的氛圍感~ 做到”點題“的目的*
00:40:796 (1,2,3,4) - 跳躍的不夠~
01:23:033 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 漸近變換比較好~~現在感覺好奇怪哦
01:29:743 (3) - 如果是我的話~會用一個變數slider填掉後面的空擋~~現在這裡突然頓住了*
01:39:612 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - 有星星的意圖~~好樣的~排的再好看一點吧
02:08:428 (1) - 去NC*
02:08:822 (2) - NC*
02:14:743 (1) - 去NC*
02:15:138 (2) - NC*
02:38:033 (9) - 這裡明顯要跳~*
02:40:007 (1) - 這裡應該不要跳吧~ 囧
02:45:336 - 爲什麽停頓？别人mod了说的
03:35:270 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 對稱了*
04:12:178 (1) - 靜音*
總體來説是施展不開來~體現不了insane的感覺~~原因是作圖經驗不夠~分寸的把握還不熟練
應該能做些跳躍的地方卻擠在一起~~會不好的說~
~~~~~~[/color]

優點是能玩~~缺點是不好玩啦~ （亮點有點少呢）
不過這是個好的開頭哦~~第一次做圖要鼓勵啦~從每張圖里面體會學習一些東西~~慢慢的就會好的
加油！

٩(๑╹◡╹๑)۶

Zweib

579 posts

Joined November 2011

Zweib 2013-05-03T08:33:31+00:00

irc mod

16:02 Zweib: yo
16:02 Zweib: 要搞rank了
16:02 __Ag: 嘛....
16:02 __Ag: 总觉得不甘心
16:02 Zweib: 加油吧
16:02 __Ag: re一下
16:30 __Ag: 求mod
16:36 Zweib: 01:21:059 (4) - 这个是不是出界了
16:36 __Ag: 等一下
16:36 __Ag: 我要回公司了
16:36 __Ag: 晚上
16:36 Zweib: 。。
16:42 __Ag: 好的，我又回来了
16:42 __Ag: 又不用去了
16:42 Zweib: 01:21:059 (4) - 这个是不是出界了
16:43 __Ag: 占到边上算出接？
16:44 Zweib: .不知道怎么定义的
16:44 Zweib: 感觉有超过一半捅出去了吧..
16:44 Zweib: 01:39:612 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - 这个跟之前难度设定不同啊
16:44 Zweib: 还是均匀DS比较好...不摆整个圆,摆大半个圆...环屏,感觉效果不错w
16:45 __Ag: 等一下
16:46 __Ag: 这里我不改
16:46 __Ag: 就这样
16:49 Zweib: 02:43:164 (4,5,6,7,8) - 这个是不是没摆好
16:49 __Ag: 不直？
16:50 Zweib: 嗯.故意的?
16:50 __Ag: 没
16:50 __Ag: 歪了
16:51 Zweib: 03:54:217 (1) - 这个不要NC
16:51 Zweib: 不对..
16:51 __Ag: ．．
16:52 Zweib: 算了NC我也不动
16:52 Zweib: 不懂
16:52 __Ag: ２３３３
16:53 Zweib: 00:21:454 (5,6) - 这个clap音不是应该在5上面吗
16:53 __Ag: 嘛．．．刚才调整了这里没注意到
16:53 Zweib: 00:37:243 (3) - 少个clap
16:54 Zweib: 01:23:822 (5,6) - 5的clap
16:55 __Ag: 嗯
16:55 Zweib: 01:28:954 (1) - 少clap
16:56 Zweib: 01:41:191 (1) - 少音效了
16:56 Zweib: 01:58:164 (1,2) - 2的clap
16:57 Zweib: 02:34:875 (5,6) - 5
16:58 Zweib: 03:09:612 (9) -
17:00 Zweib: 04:12:178 (1) - 这里加个note然把spinner拖后一格吧。。
17:01 __Ag: 嗯
17:03 Zweib: 00:37:441 (4) - 上移一点到(320,280)
17:06 __Ag: 可以ｒａｎｋ了么？
17:06 Zweib: ;w;问妹儿特
17:06 Zweib: 我又没rank过图
17:06 __Ag: ...
17:07 __Ag: 还没mod完啊
17:08 Zweib: 01:08:822 (7) - (232,204)
17:08 Zweib: 我也只是挑挑小毛病。。。
17:08 __Ag: 嘛
17:10 Zweib: 总体还好，
17:10 __Ag: 哎...
17:10 Zweib: 打起来有时候会觉得右下角有点空的感觉
17:10 __Ag: 还有hard，normal
17:10 Zweib: 可能是我的错觉
17:11 Zweib: 你这么会搞基，rank应该没问题
17:11 __Ag: 真像你这么说的话我早就rank了
17:11 __Ag: 玛德
17:12 Zweib: 那是，
17:12 Zweib: 主要现在
17:12 Zweib: 如过这图放到10年，11年
17:12 Zweib: 如果*
17:13 Zweib: 真是早就rank了
17:13 __Ag: 别说这些
17:13 Zweib: hard
17:13 Zweib: 00:28:954 (1,2,3,4) - 歪
17:13 __Ag: 没啊
17:13 __Ag: 都是１．０３
17:14 Zweib: 哦我还没更新。、
17:16 Zweib: 玛德琪琪还会做这么善良的图
17:16 __Ag: 玛德
17:16 __Ag: 因为这图迟迟没有rank所以我后期才.....
17:16 __Ag: 这图之前我真心弱弱萌萌
17:18 Zweib: 节奏都可以
17:18 Zweib: 排列我就不挑什么了
17:18 __Ag: 快去po
17:18 __Ag: post
17:19 __Ag: 我给你两个苦豆酥
17:19 Zweib: 00:39:217 (2) - 去掉clap
17:20 Zweib: 01:23:033 (3) - clap
17:20 Zweib: 这些小毛病都改了试着去找些熟一点的bat问问看rank还需要什么
17:20 __Ag: bat
17:20 __Ag: 是什么？
17:20 Zweib: 01:25:401 (5) - clap
17:21 Zweib: 你妹。。。
17:21 __Ag: 我连bat是什么都不知道你让我找熟一点的？
17:21 Zweib: 去找权限问问看
17:22 Zweib: 01:40:007 (3) - 这里要不要音效？
17:22 __Ag: added
17:23 Zweib: 02:51:454 (3) -
17:23 Zweib: 02:53:033 (5) -
17:23 Zweib: 02:54:217 (1) - 这里是不是忘了
17:24 Zweib: 02:59:743 (1,2) - 24白线下clap也给我坚持到底呀混蛋;w;
17:24 Zweib: 03:08:428 (3) -
17:24 __Ag: 不是那样的啊
17:25 __Ag: 应该是以前人们ｍｏｄ有些让ｒｅｍｏｖｅ的
17:25 Zweib: 唔。。那就不好办了
17:25 __Ag: 没关系没关系
17:26 Zweib: 总之尽量统一
17:26 Zweib: 不加的话如果有相对应的乐句，也不要加

[CSGA]Ar3sgice

4,298 posts

Joined July 2011

[CSGA]Ar3sgice 2013-05-03T09:09:50+00:00

aimod提示normal/hard没关ocuntdown

[insane]
01:39:612 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - 不好不够良心
02:55:796 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^
01:51:059 (3) - 建议 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/735448

[hard]
00:47:704 (2,1) - 不科学建议去掉2
02:35:270 (6) - newcombo
02:51:454 (3,1,2) - 不科学
03:44:546 (7) - x440 y264
03:51:059 (3) - 不好
03:52:638 (7,8) - 两个都ctrl+g下就好了

[normal]
01:20:270 (1) - 间距不对

..这么业界良心我都不知道怎么mod了orz

Zero__wind

osu! Alumni

3,314 posts

Joined August 2012

Zero__wind 2013-05-04T08:18:51+00:00

鬼挖坟？
一定是我打开的方式不对

Jemmmmy

526 posts

Joined September 2012

Jemmmmy 2013-05-18T14:33:51+00:00

hard
01:05:270 (3,4,5,6) - 调整成水平，有点歪
03:51:059 (3) - 折返滑条尾换成note？

insane
01:50:664 (1,2,3) - 间距相等
04:11:586 (6) - 不美观。。。

Strawberry

osu! Alumni

1,536 posts

Joined October 2010

Strawberry 2013-06-09T06:55:49+00:00

不RANK真的对不起GD和SP了

Zero__wind

osu! Alumni

3,314 posts

Joined August 2012

Zero__wind 2016-04-28T07:45:23+00:00

吓尿了

sahuang

2,294 posts

Joined December 2014

sahuang 2016-06-03T10:59:44+00:00

Zero__wind wrote:
吓尿了

可以的

Hanazawa Kana

729 posts

Joined February 2013

Hanazawa Kana 2016-06-03T14:39:41+00:00

吓尿了

Narcissu

1,764 posts

Joined August 2012

Narcissu 2016-06-03T23:16:31+00:00

重音應該推遲一節。如果你想要把紅線插在很前面的地方也就是00:00:531 - 。建議插在00:13:164 - 因為這樣NC Mod後的鼓點會正常的多。改完之後你就會發現重音全部都位於長白線了，按流行的New Combo 習慣是按段落分組，也許你可能要改動不少

BPM應該是76

__Ag

614 posts

Joined July 2011

Topic Starter

__Ag 2016-06-04T03:26:50+00:00

Narcissu wrote:
重音應該推遲一節。如果你想要把紅線插在很前面的地方也就是00:00:531 - 。建議插在00:13:164 - 因為這樣NC Mod後的鼓點會正常的多。改完之後你就會發現重音全部都位於長白線了，按流行的New Combo 習慣是按段落分組，也許你可能要改動不少

BPM應該是76

可以，改好了

moonlightleaf

2,170 posts

Joined September 2011

moonlightleaf 2016-06-04T11:34:20+00:00

不是很懂你们76BPM, 我做要152BPM啊

sahuang

2,294 posts

Joined December 2014

sahuang 2016-06-05T00:29:34+00:00

Preview 01:41:386 - ?

Easy
http://puu.sh/phm1O/d4497bff85.osu

Binguo

308 posts

Joined April 2015

Binguo 2016-06-13T13:52:41+00:00

你吓到我了赔钱

NM

[给皇]
00:16:320 (3) - 00:17:110 - 这两处塞圈用滑条突出这段音乐00:17:899 - 如果改了后面也改吧....
03:10:005 (1) - 去掉红点

[水仙]
00:17:899 (2) - 感觉尾部这个音效有点多余
01:19:084 (3) - 这个音效好响不降降音量吗
01:38:032 (3,2) - 间距修一下
02:25:794 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - 这样的节奏太多了吧不变一下吗柑橘有点小无聊
04:11:584 (5) - 别叠起来

[二妹妹]
00:44:741 (1,1) - 去掉音效
01:18:294 (2) - Ctrl+G
01:30:334 (4,1) - 叠起来
01:38:820 (2) - Ctrl+G
01:39:215 (3) - 同上
01:40:202 (2,3) - 没必要下音效.
02:55:597 (4,1) - 你懂的

水的一笔
我好困啊射个星得了

Pata-Mon

1,489 posts

Joined March 2015

Pata-Mon 2016-06-14T17:48:43+00:00

M4M：https://osu.ppy.sh/s/461008

[Easy]

全程1/1塞满有什么好说的……嘛虽然很安全，不过还是希望以后ez这类歌适当用用一拍半折返和两拍滑条什么的，要不然太无聊了……

[Normal]

04:10:794 (3,4,5) - 感觉还是会出事，别这么放了吧
还是没啥说……

[Hard]

00:37:044 (2,3) - 考虑到两个鼓点，这里节奏要不要反过来
00:44:347 (1,1) - 这里音效怎么回事，感觉其他类似的地方没有啊
03:07:241 (1,2,3) - 2和3最好再远点，视觉ds感觉会很近
03:17:899 (5) - nc？
03:44:741 (1,2) - 感觉放高点好看

GL~

Saki

Beatmap Nominator

437 posts

Joined October 2013

Saki 2016-06-15T04:08:05+00:00

~~m4m~~
草泥马4 years ago

[ermei]
00:29:544 (2,3) - blanket请认准缩圈法后面不提了
所以hard有什么好提的嘛，完全看不出有什么问题

[Narcissu]
fine

[sahuang]
fine

[kira]
没做完摸你妈，~~草烦死了你们这种没做完就四处要摸的~~
一拳打爆琪老板

8888888 no kd plz

moonlightleaf

2,170 posts

Joined September 2011

moonlightleaf 2016-06-17T10:54:43+00:00

Binguo wrote:
你吓到我了赔钱

NM

[二妹妹]
00:44:741 (1,1) - 去掉音效 --好
01:18:294 (2) - Ctrl+G
01:30:334 (4,1) - 叠起来
01:38:820 (2) - Ctrl+G
01:39:215 (3) - 同上
01:40:202 (2,3) - 没必要下音效. ---有的
02:55:597 (4,1) - 你懂的

水的一笔
我好困啊射个星得了

Pata-Mon wrote:
M4M：https://osu.ppy.sh/s/461008

[Hard]
00:37:044 (2,3) - 考虑到两个鼓点，这里节奏要不要反过来
00:44:347 (1,1) - 这里音效怎么回事，感觉其他类似的地方没有啊 --上面改了
03:07:241 (1,2,3) - 2和3最好再远点，视觉ds感觉会很近 ---不近了, 也是1.2 x ds
03:17:899 (5) - nc？ --好
03:44:741 (1,2) - 感觉放高点好看 ---倒是能小跳,不过不会太高,懒得改了
GL~

Vert wrote:
~~m4m~~
草泥马4 years ago

[ermei]
00:29:544 (2,3) - blanket请认准缩圈法后面不提了 ---额这个比较明显,改了, 其他差不多233

所以hard有什么好提的嘛，完全看不出有什么问题

[kira]
没做完摸你妈，~~草烦死了你们这种没做完就四处要摸的~~
一拳打爆琪老板 ----垃圾Ag=aji

8888888 no kd plz

no reply = keep

thank you all

我不能连puush ,qq传你吧顺带把 sb糊完了= =

Mei

1,053 posts

Joined March 2012

Mei 2016-06-18T05:02:28+00:00

雷猴啊

[narcissu]

声音可以小一点

[Kira]

没做完摸你妈，~~草烦死了你们这种有女朋友的线虫~~
一拳打爆琪老板

[2Mei]

00:16:913 (2) - 我觉得whistle可以加在滑条头上
00:21:057 (1) - 这个滑条中间有音
00:50:268 (3,1,1) - 这3个用一个nc就行
怎么break里面也有绿线，很迷
sb倒是做完啊！强迫症要犯了
02:00:926 (1) - 可以不要nc

讲道理，这有啥好摸的啊，简单到爆炸的图
倒是这个bg画风好老，能不能来个新的啊

Eir_DELETED

Eir_DELETED 2016-07-23T15:54:07+00:00

Hi~ req from chat in game.

[Genaral]

Nothing

[sahuang's Easy]

Good

[Narcissu's Normal]

00:14:741 (3,4) - Sliders is a little nonparallel. 03:41:583 (1,4) - ^

[ErMei's Hard]

00:44:347 (1,1,1) - Can you do same distance? I feel like not same distance.
01:29:347 (2) - Move to x:403 y:287 ,and 01:29:741 (3,4) move to x:457 y:130.
03:09:215 (3,4) - Put these sliders vertically each other, so look like more beautiful.
If you fix the above, 03:10:005 (1,2,3) Move to same distance.

[Kira]

00:27:077 (7) - 周りの音とりと合わせる形でいいと思います、なのでこれ外しませんか
01:40:794 (8) - 01:40:597 (7)の向きの直線状に置きませんか　03:09:215 (8) - ^
02:43:162 (1) - ストリームの始まりだけずれているのがとても汚く見えるので、直線ストリームにすることをすすめます。

[SB]
I'm not SB player, but I found spelling mistakes of Japanese lyrics
　　 False 　　 →　　 True
どこまでも远く → どこまでも遠く
离れたとしても → 離れたとしても
たったひとつの言叶 → たったひとつの言葉
あなたの梦を叶えられますか？ → あなたの夢を叶えられますか？
あなたの后ろを歩くことができるでしょう? → あなたの後ろを歩くことができるでしょう?
安らぎを赠りたい → 安らぎを贈りたい
见知らぬ空の下 → 見知らぬ空の下
あなたの笑顔を见られますか？ → あなたの笑顔を見られますか？
わたしを见つめて → わたしを見つめて
わたしだけ见つめて → わたしだけ見つめて
最后のひとことーー → 最後のひとことーー
たったひとつの笑颜 → たったひとつの笑顔
あの顷のわたし → あの頃のわたし

references: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6fOD3nXRMc

The map look good! GL!

moonlightleaf

2,170 posts

Joined September 2011

moonlightleaf 2016-07-24T05:09:27+00:00

sorry , i can't find which font of the lyrics i used ,
since it is a little long after i done that ,
i miss all most of my font ,
if i remember that , i will change it , if no , no diea , only delete (no font , how fix , orz

~~diff mod will done soon , just wait~~

Mei wrote:
雷猴啊

[2Mei]
00:16:913 (2) - 我觉得whistle可以加在滑条头上
00:21:057 (1) - 这个滑条中间有音 ---没事,这种滑条全图很多
00:50:268 (3,1,1) - 这3个用一个nc就行
怎么break里面也有绿线，很迷
sb倒是做完啊！强迫症要犯了
02:00:926 (1) - 可以不要nc

讲道理，这有啥好摸的啊，简单到爆炸的图
倒是这个bg画风好老，能不能来个新的啊

joker- wrote:
Hi~ req from chat in game.

[ErMei's Hard]
00:44:347 (1,1,1) - Can you do same distance? I feel like not same distance.
01:29:347 (2) - Move to x:403 y:287 ,and 01:29:741 (3,4) move to x:457 y:130.
03:09:215 (3,4) - Put these sliders vertically each other, so look like more beautiful.
If you fix the above, 03:10:005 (1,2,3) Move to same distance.

[SB]
I'm not SB player, but I found spelling mistakes of Japanese lyrics
　　 False 　　 →　　 True
どこまでも远く → どこまでも遠く
离れたとしても → 離れたとしても
たったひとつの言叶 → たったひとつの言葉
あなたの梦を叶えられますか？ → あなたの夢を叶えられますか？
あなたの后ろを歩くことができるでしょう? → あなたの後ろを歩くことができるでしょう?
安らぎを赠りたい → 安らぎを贈りたい
见知らぬ空の下 → 見知らぬ空の下
あなたの笑顔を见られますか？ → あなたの笑顔を見られますか？
わたしを见つめて → わたしを見つめて
わたしだけ见つめて → わたしだけ見つめて
最后のひとことーー → 最後のひとことーー
たったひとつの笑颜 → たったひとつの笑顔
あの顷のわたし → あの頃のわたし
// lyrics working
references: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6fOD3nXRMc

The map look good! GL!

Misure wrote:
宇宙无敌琪老板
这图不太会摸... 因为挺多梗看上去都是有想法的, 那就大概点几个test不太舒服的吧也就是个人认为有一点过了的地方 比较主观

[ErMei's Hard]
00:20:070 (4,1) - 贴到滑条尾有点不美观逆时针15°试试？ ---不要紧
00:50:070 (2,3) - 296|180的位置感觉好一些
01:58:557 (4,1) - 有点远而且这个滑条的形状flow是向下所以这里就成了锐角跳的感觉有点急要不这样的？随意参考...
02:53:426 (3) - 这样感觉好一些
02:58:162 (3,4,1) - 调整一下让两个滑条间距也是那么多？
03:06:057 (3) - NC？
顺便SB如果有的话写“二妹”真的好么，通常应该亮ID的吧 ---当日文看吧,233 先放, 前面歌词还有要整
yeye
Good luck啊

no reply = fix , thank you all

Last edited by moonlightleaf 2016-07-25T00:30:06+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Misure

953 posts

Joined September 2012

Misure 2016-07-24T16:19:13+00:00

宇宙无敌琪老板
这图不太会摸... 因为挺多梗看上去都是有想法的, 那就大概点几个test不太舒服的吧也就是个人认为有一点过了的地方 比较主观
[Kira]

00:15:334 (4,5,6,1) - 45接起来可能还行虽然有点卡flow 但是561这个角度太锐又很远移动感觉不是很好建议这里1 ctrl+G
00:18:294 (3,4,5) - 34有点远移动感顿一下这里感觉不是很好 flow大概还好
00:23:031 (2,3,4) - 拐的角度有点急
00:26:584 (5,6,7) - 这个三连其实我不太理解它的意义...7应该是后面那个1/8吧
00:31:320 (5,6,1) - 这个flow感觉不是很好虽然空了一拍但是这里间距体感上还是比较大又是钝角就有点明显了个人偏向1在靠右下的位置
00:34:478 (5,6,7,1) - 接前面角度感觉有点急
00:43:162 (1) - 108|100 感觉好一点点
00:47:702 (5) - 172|228 感觉好一点点
00:58:952 (1) - 往上点？
01:04:873 (6,7) - 有一点点远了
01:08:031 (5,1) - 感觉不适合stack 原因说不好大概节奏衔接不是很紧密
01:19:084 (1,1) - 这组和后面几组比有点近了吧前一个滑条反向之后距后面只有1.68x 后面有一组同理
01:20:662 (1) - ctrl+G? 离太近打的时候基本感觉不到滑条的感觉缺点移动感..
01:27:373 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 这个间距相对于整张图来说也是有点过了...尤其对比02:55:794 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 太明显了顺便NC也不一样
01:36:847 (1,2,3,4,5) - 这里比划了好几次感觉还是提出来吧有点不舒服具体就是滑条切flow
有点急了
01:40:794 (8,9) - 改成1/2或者 note离远一些...移动感觉有点尴尬现在
02:12:768 (6,1) - 有点远
02:17:109 (4,5,6) - 保持一样的间距？短条有点突然
02:40:400 (3,4,5) - 角度有点急前面那个钝角接过去感觉就不错
02:53:820 (5,1) - 容易断kick
03:22:241 (5,1) - 感觉有点不适合stack

[ErMei's Hard]

00:20:070 (4,1) - 贴到滑条尾有点不美观逆时针15°试试？
00:50:070 (2,3) - 296|180的位置感觉好一些
01:58:557 (4,1) - 有点远而且这个滑条的形状flow是向下所以这里就成了锐角跳的感觉有点急要不这样的？随意参考...
02:53:426 (3) - 这样感觉好一些
02:58:162 (3,4,1) - 调整一下让两个滑条间距也是那么多？
03:06:057 (3) - NC？
顺便SB如果有的话写“二妹”真的好么，通常应该亮ID的吧

[Narcissu's Normal]

00:28:952 (1) - ctrl+G?

[sahuang's Easy]

为什么不用cs3...

yeye
Good luck啊

Narcissu

1,764 posts

Joined August 2012

Narcissu 2016-07-26T01:48:15+00:00

除了排版都改了……

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moonlightleaf

2,170 posts

Joined September 2011

moonlightleaf 2016-07-26T11:18:00+00:00

7

SPOILER

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[Metadata]
Title:Kira Kira Serenade
TitleUnicode:きらきらセレナーデ
Artist:Melone (Ryoko Shintani)
ArtistUnicode:メローネ（新谷良子）
Creator:__Ag
Version:ErMei's Hard
Source:クロスワールド　-見知らぬ空のエターティア-
Tags:moonlightleaf sahuang narcissu Cross World -Mishiranu Sora no Etatia-, visual novel, BROCCOLI, ブロッコリー, etc.
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336,219,205796,6,0,P|372:212|407:222,1,75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
444,304,206191,2,0,P|407:311|372:301,1,75,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
280,304,206586,2,0,P|243:311|208:301,1,75,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
172,219,206981,2,0,P|208:211|243:221,1,75,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
128,288,207375,6,0,P|90:226|115:158,1,150,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
196,120,207967,1,0,0:0:0:0:
195,120,208164,2,0,P|231:110|268:115,1,75,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
312,195,208559,2,0,P|276:205|239:200,1,75,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
351,123,208954,6,0,P|393:183|372:252,1,150,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,312,209546,1,0,0:0:0:0:
268,228,209743,2,0,L|226:165,1,75,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
144,132,210138,2,0,L|142:206,1,75,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
208,88,210533,6,0,P|143:56|78:88,1,150,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
64,176,211125,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,176,211322,2,0,L|62:250,1,75,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
104,332,211717,1,0,0:0:0:0:
156,260,211914,1,0,0:0:0:0:
244,252,212112,6,0,P|280:242|315:254,1,75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
352,335,212507,2,0,P|316:345|281:333,1,75,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
191,323,212901,2,0,P|166:295|156:259,1,75,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
209,188,213296,2,0,P|233:216|244:251,1,75,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
127,184,213691,6,0,P|163:120|235:110,1,150,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
292,180,214283,1,8,0:0:0:0:
364,124,214480,2,0,L|439:136,1,75,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
448,224,214875,2,0,L|373:212,1,75,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
308,276,215270,5,2,0:0:0:0:
260,352,215467,1,0,0:0:0:0:
204,284,215664,2,0,L|194:209,1,75,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
116,256,216059,2,0,L|106:181,1,75,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
156,108,216454,1,0,0:0:0:0:
68,96,216651,1,0,0:0:0:0:
179,19,216849,6,0,P|239:62|245:134,1,150,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
194,209,217441,1,0,0:0:0:0:
116,256,217638,2,0,P|139:284|173:299,1,75,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
251,252,218033,2,0,P|227:223|193:208,1,75,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
247,331,218428,6,0,P|313:302|327:231,1,150,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
288,152,219020,1,0,0:0:0:0:
375,156,219217,2,0,P|407:136|425:104,1,75,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
396,20,219612,2,0,P|364:39|346:71,1,75,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
272,184,220007,6,0,B|228:168|228:168|172:180|172:180|128:165,1,150,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
92,84,220599,1,0,0:0:0:0:
43,160,220796,2,0,P|47:197|65:229,1,75,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,316,221191,2,0,P|126:294|144:262,1,75,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
16,300,221586,6,0,L|163:329,1,150,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
252,344,222178,1,0,0:0:0:0:
304,272,222375,2,0,P|331:299|346:333,1,75,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
428,372,222770,2,0,P|443:337|469:311,1,75,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
496,224,223164,6,0,L|480:150,1,75,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
416,88,223559,2,0,L|400:161,1,75,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
376,248,223954,1,8,0:0:0:0:
376,248,224349,1,2,0:0:0:0:
346,332,224546,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,264,224743,6,0,B|236:249|180:285|180:285|150:264,1,150,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
308,176,225533,2,0,B|338:197|338:197|394:161|445:175,1,150,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
288,264,226322,6,0,P|229:219|222:147,1,150,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
292,88,226914,1,8,0:0:0:0:
308,176,227112,1,8,0:0:0:0:
176,296,227507,1,4,0:0:0:0:
176,296,227901,6,0,L|126:239,1,75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
92,156,228296,1,0,0:0:0:0:
92,156,228493,1,0,0:0:0:0:
179,175,228691,2,0,P|216:180|253:171,1,75,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
288,88,229086,2,0,P|251:83|214:92,1,75,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
128,72,229480,6,0,L|87:9,1,75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
24,72,229875,2,0,L|17:146,1,75,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
28,235,230270,2,0,P|63:225|91:200,1,75,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
152,136,230664,1,0,0:0:0:0:
182,225,230862,1,0,0:0:0:0:
119,289,231059,6,0,P|187:315|251:280,1,150,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
312,212,231651,1,0,0:0:0:0:
356,288,231849,1,8,0:0:0:0:
412,216,232046,2,0,P|389:146|325:112,1,150,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
240,143,232638,6,0,P|175:179|102:165,1,150,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
36,104,233230,1,0,0:0:0:0:
36,104,233428,1,8,0:0:0:0:
64,280,233822,1,4,0:0:0:0:
63,280,234217,6,0,P|98:266|135:264,1,75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
216,308,234612,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,352,234809,1,0,0:0:0:0:
295,259,235007,2,0,P|270:232|236:217,1,75,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
156,176,235401,1,0,0:0:0:0:
156,176,235599,1,0,0:0:0:0:
236,131,235796,6,0,P|307:115|367:156,1,150,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
404,240,236388,1,2,0:0:0:0:
443,320,236586,2,0,P|473:297|489:263,1,75,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
467,175,236980,2,0,P|470:138|485:104,1,75,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
416,47,237375,6,0,P|379:53|342:45,1,75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
251,47,237770,2,0,P|260:84|280:116,1,75,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
324,194,238164,2,0,P|287:199|250:191,1,75,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
159,194,238559,2,0,P|167:230|187:262,1,75,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,319,238954,6,0,P|190:351|122:324,1,150,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
64,256,239546,1,8,0:0:0:0:
64,256,239743,1,8,0:0:0:0:
108,80,240138,1,4,0:0:0:0:
240,204,240533,5,4,0:0:0:0:
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388,99,247441,2,0,P|327:139|313:211,1,150,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
324,300,248033,1,0,0:0:0:0:
324,300,248230,1,0,0:0:0:0:
240,264,248428,6,0,L|165:275,1,75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
99,335,248822,1,0,0:0:0:0:
75,248,249020,2,0,P|121:191|194:183,1,150,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
284,204,249612,2,0,P|281:166|267:132,1,75,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
332,68,250007,6,0,P|359:92|394:106,1,75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
440,184,250401,2,0,P|402:186|368:200,1,75,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
332,284,250796,2,0,L|339:358,1,75,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
430,347,251191,2,0,L|422:272,1,75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,200,251586,6,0,P|295:200|247:255,1,150,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
213,342,252178,6,0,B|150:312|158:232|158:232|206:100|378:104|378:104|368:198,1,502.499976230623,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

__Ag

614 posts

Joined July 2011

Topic Starter

__Ag 2016-07-27T05:05:09+00:00

Misure wrote:
宇宙无敌琪老板
这图不太会摸... 因为挺多梗看上去都是有想法的, 那就大概点几个test不太舒服的吧也就是个人认为有一点过了的地方 比较主观
[Kira]
00:15:334 (4,5,6,1) - 45接起来可能还行虽然有点卡flow 但是561这个角度太锐又很远移动感觉不是很好建议这里1 ctrl+Gfixed
00:18:294 (3,4,5) - 34有点远移动感顿一下这里感觉不是很好 flow大概还好
00:23:031 (2,3,4) - 拐的角度有点急
00:26:584 (5,6,7) - 这个三连其实我不太理解它的意义...7应该是后面那个1/8吧
00:31:320 (5,6,1) - 这个flow感觉不是很好虽然空了一拍但是这里间距体感上还是比较大又是钝角就有点明显了个人偏向1在靠右下的位置
00:34:478 (5,6,7,1) - 接前面角度感觉有点急
00:43:162 (1) - 108|100 感觉好一点点fixed
00:47:702 (5) - 172|228 感觉好一点点fixed
00:58:952 (1) - 往上点？fixed
01:04:873 (6,7) - 有一点点远了
01:08:031 (5,1) - 感觉不适合stack 原因说不好大概节奏衔接不是很紧密
01:19:084 (1,1) - 这组和后面几组比有点近了吧前一个滑条反向之后距后面只有1.68x 后面有一组同理fixed
01:20:662 (1) - ctrl+G? 离太近打的时候基本感觉不到滑条的感觉缺点移动感..
01:27:373 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 这个间距相对于整张图来说也是有点过了...尤其对比02:55:794 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 太明显了顺便NC也不一样
01:36:847 (1,2,3,4,5) - 这里比划了好几次感觉还是提出来吧有点不舒服具体就是滑条切flow拉近了
有点急了
01:40:794 (8,9) - 改成1/2或者 note离远一些...移动感觉有点尴尬现在fixed
02:12:768 (6,1) - 有点远fixed
02:17:109 (4,5,6) - 保持一样的间距？短条有点突然
02:40:400 (3,4,5) - 角度有点急前面那个钝角接过去感觉就不错
02:53:820 (5,1) - 容易断kick
03:22:241 (5,1) - 感觉有点不适合stack

joker- wrote:
Hi~ req from chat in game.
[Kira]
00:27:077 (7) - 周りの音とりと合わせる形でいいと思います、なのでこれ外しませんかここには音があると思ってます
01:40:794 (8) - 01:40:597 (7)の向きの直線状に置きませんか　03:09:215 (8) - ^fixed
02:43:162 (1) - ストリームの始まりだけずれているのがとても汚く見えるので、直線ストリームにすることをすすめます。fixed
The map look good! GL!

no reply=keep it,thank you

sahuang

2,294 posts

Joined December 2014

sahuang 2016-07-27T05:28:13+00:00

...please state your reason why you keep them when you respond to mods.
Usually ppl use no reply = fixed

Mafumafu

Nomination Assessment Team

3,396 posts

Joined August 2013

Mafumafu 2016-07-27T05:56:17+00:00

[General]
(部分来源于modding assistant)
四个难度timing没统一

这些音效似乎没用到？
soft-hitfinish22.wav
soft-hitwhistle2.wav
soft-sliderslide2.wav
soft-slidertick2.wav

现在最好不要用ogg文件
soft-hitnormal11.ogg
soft-hitnormal22.ogg
soft-hitnormal33.ogg

音效不足100ms长
soft-hitwhistle11.wav 28.46ms
soft-hitwhistle22.wav 28.46ms

有大于5毫秒的delay需要减掉
soft-hitfinish22.wav
soft-hitwhistle11.wav
soft-hitwhistle22.wav

AIMod似乎有很多关于storyboard丢失文件的错误提示

hitnormal声音有点太小了，几乎要听不见了，虽然是很安静的歌曲。。。

[ErMei's Hard]
02:47:507 (5,1) - 似乎没有1/8

[Kira]
不是很同意1/8结尾的滑条
00:16:320 (1,2,3,4) - 1和2是1/8但是间距却大于 3 4这个1/4 再加上3和4的重叠这个比较难读1 2也没有理由用这么大的间距
00:26:584 (5,6,7) - 打起来好难受
00:37:636 (5) - 明显是1/4哪里有音为什么要1/8
01:40:005 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Hard 1/4单点都没有很多这里突然有这么长的连打，显得spread有点不好。况且音乐也没有这么多1/8吧

前三个难度没什么问题，最高难度我大概不太觉得可以。。。。
Good luck!

__Ag

614 posts

Joined July 2011

Topic Starter

__Ag 2016-07-27T06:02:59+00:00

sahuang wrote:
...please state your reason why you keep them when you respond to mods.
Usually ppl use no reply = fixed

你说得在理

sahuang

2,294 posts

Joined December 2014

sahuang 2016-07-27T10:16:56+00:00

Regraz wrote:
前三个难度没什么问题，最高难度我大概不太觉得可以。。。。
Good luck!

咕王争霸赛现在开始！

moonlightleaf

2,170 posts

Joined September 2011

moonlightleaf 2016-07-27T12:19:34+00:00

Regraz wrote:
[General]
(部分来源于modding assistant)
四个难度timing没统一

这些音效似乎没用到？
soft-hitfinish22.wav
soft-hitwhistle2.wav
soft-sliderslide2.wav
soft-slidertick2.wav

现在最好不要用ogg文件
soft-hitnormal11.ogg √ 换成了 .wav
soft-hitnormal22.ogg ^
soft-hitnormal33.ogg ^

音效不足100ms长
soft-hitwhistle11.wav 28.46ms √
soft-hitwhistle22.wav 28.46ms √

有大于5毫秒的delay需要减掉
soft-hitfinish22.wav
soft-hitwhistle11.wav √
soft-hitwhistle22.wav √

AIMod似乎有很多关于storyboard丢失文件的错误提示

hitnormal声音有点太小了，几乎要听不见了，虽然是很安静的歌曲。。。

[ErMei's Hard]
02:47:507 (5,1) - 似乎没有1/8 ---不要紧的

前三个难度没什么问题，最高难度我大概不太觉得可以。。。。
Good luck!

另外的 01:12:768 (4) - 帮我叠好一下

sahuang wrote:
Regraz wrote:
前三个难度没什么问题，最高难度我大概不太觉得可以。。。。
Good luck!
咕王争霸赛现在开始！+1

BeatofIke

Beatmap Nominator

4,245 posts

Joined September 2011

BeatofIke 2016-07-28T05:30:49+00:00

We only fixed a few things on Kira difficulty.
This mapset has an interesting mapping style and it's something I like for everyone to experience while playing this map :3

Doyak

osu! Alumni

2,623 posts

Joined November 2012

Doyak 2016-08-16T14:26:39+00:00

(Don't blame Wafu, it's me who asked for some help lol, just for some opinions)

Anyways I think the hitsounds are really problmetic so I'm gonna pop the bubble for now.

[General]
* Okay let me ask the GD'ers: What's the point of using hitsounds? I'm talking about the hitnormal sounds on the GDs. I first thought they were muted, since they're way too quiet. Even with 100% effect / 60% music, I still couldn't really hear anything. We use hitsounds to give feedback to players. Therefore, they should be clearly audible for all clickable objects. I know this song calls for very soft hitsounds, but you went too much. So please increase them into reasonable volume. This is the current volume of hitnormal 11, 22, 33:

and the whistle is like this:

So even because of the large difference between them, hitnormal sound is even less noticeable. Same for 17th sampleset ofc.

* Also this

Wafu will give you a better mp3, so you might as well want to replace it, and you can fix the tags.

* You all can integrate the map's end. This seems more like gathering random difficulties rather than a 'mapset'.

* I also think the difficulty gap can be improved, but I wanna listen to the GD mappers' opinions too. So here's my opinion. This song can be mapped like double-bpm style, and Hard and Kira diff are doing that, using 1/4 beats on their base. But Easy/Normal diff don't. They're still being a raw-bpm style, where Easy has 1/1 beats as its base which feels more like 2/1 beats, and Normal has 1/2s which feels more like 1/1 beats. So to say, it's like having Beginner-Easy diff and Hard-Insane diff, while Normal diff is missing. Personally I think Easy could introduce some 1/2 beats (not just reverse arrows), and Normal should introduce some 1/4 beats for this double-bpm style mapset, because Hard diff is entirely mapped like they're just 1/2 beats.

*

[Easy]
* Assuming you don't add significantly more beats, even lower AR would work better. It's literally 1 or 2 objects on the screen now. So maybe try AR1.

[Normal]
* This diff isn't any different with a 152bpm Easy diff, so without any 1/4 beats AR5 is too high, so maybe try AR4.

[Hard]
* 00:24:215 (1) - 00:17:899 (4) - NC consistency?
* 01:14:741 (1) - This shape felt a bit weird, it can be more clean if the 1st-2nd dots' segment is parallel with 3rd-4th segment.
* 01:29:741 (3,4) - I get your intention but this can be a bit confusing because there were no such a long/complicated gaps before (nor after), so maybe it's better to just fill 1/2s out here.

[Kira]
* 00:37:636 (5,6) - Can I ask you why this scale is so small compared to 00:36:847 (1,2,3,4) - ? The music is getting intense imo.
* 00:51:847 (5) - hmm I don't get what this does. It ignores 00:52:044 - this significant beat and there's no dragging sound there.
* 00:55:695 (5) - Seems overmapped. I don't care much about triplets for emphasis, but I think they should be avoided on these quiet parts. Hope you reconsider about that, and all similar things.

*

Same for 01:14:741 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 02:05:268 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 02:43:162 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 03:08:426 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 03:33:689 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 03:46:320 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I guess
* 02:00:136 (5,1) - 03:15:926 (5,1) - This looks badly overlapped because of the stack leniency.
* 02:42:374 (3,1) - Stack leniency made this stream really weird, please fix this.

I need to check hitsounds after fixing the volume. Anyways call me back.

sahuang

2,294 posts

Joined December 2014

sahuang 2016-08-16T15:07:15+00:00

Doyak wrote:
* I also think the difficulty gap can be improved, but I wanna listen to the GD mappers' opinions too. So here's my opinion. This song can be mapped like double-bpm style, and Hard and Kira diff are doing that, using 1/4 beats on their base. But Easy/Normal diff don't. They're still being a raw-bpm style, where Easy has 1/1 beats as its base which feels more like 2/1 beats, and Normal has 1/2s which feels more like 1/1 beats. So to say, it's like having Beginner-Easy diff and Hard-Insane diff, while Normal diff is missing. Personally I think Easy could introduce some 1/2 beats (not just reverse arrows), and Normal should introduce some 1/4 beats for this double-bpm style mapset, because Hard diff is entirely mapped like they're just 1/2 beats.

Here's my opinion of the spread after looking at normal and hard: i kinda agree with you about it, but i think current gap works fine.

I mapped easy with 1/1 rhythms with only reverse sliders occuring at 1/2 and narcissu mapped normal with 1/2 beats. For the hard diff, tho it's using a double bpm style and as you said, in double bpm style maps lower difficulty diffs feel more like 2/1 and 1/1 beats, i still think gap is ok. Obviously Hard is mostly following DS and it doesnt use 1/8 beats anywhere. I agree that Easy and Normal can add some 1/2 and 1/4 beats in them but imo current set is fine. this is how double-style works. For players, there are exactly two different ways of playing this song: 76bpm and 76*2 bpm. I dont really think there should be a diff with, say, half 76 and half 152bpm rhythms. i guess that will actually play very bad cuz the player will have to shift between two styles, regardless of playing for none or for dt.

Spread can always cause some arguments, especially for such kind of double bpm style. from so many ranked maps nowadays what i can say is that the gap between normal and hard may be a bit, but not that much. They reflect 2 different levels of this song.

Narcissu

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Narcissu 2016-08-16T15:26:35+00:00

I do not want to add a little bit more difficult for difficulty gap. my diff will hard to read if add 1/4 beat …… clean and beautiful it's my wish, it's important than diff gap

@ag : help me change to AR4, OD=HP=3

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Doyak

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Doyak 2016-08-16T15:27:59+00:00

But let's say: if this song was a regular 152bpm song, and we have those diffs. Then we will more likely to see those diffs as Beginner-Easy-Hard-Insane. We don't say a Normal diff - in this case, having some 1/2 beats - being an in-between diff, but more like a 'stone bridge' between diffs because jumping right into a 'new dimension' of beatsnap is a whole new thing, without knowing anything about the harder difficulty.

Easy-Normal is fine, because Normal is more than enough to be the easiest difficulty of the set already. But it's not hard to create a diff that 'introduces' how 1/4 beats work with this song, just a bit, before getting into a 'full 1/4' diff.

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Doyak

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Doyak 2016-08-16T15:29:22+00:00

Well, I wouldn't insist more. It's not very big of an issue. Anyways fix the other things and call me back~

sahuang

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sahuang 2016-08-16T15:35:04+00:00

Hmm..I would agree that it will be good if Narcissu actually adds some 1/4 beats in his diff but seems like he doesn't want to do it.
But we can't assume that it is a 152bpm song so i think current way of alternation is cool xP
Also since you brought up this point, i dl a bit of ranked double bpm style maps, in Normal there are some maps that only have 1/2 beats with some blue lines being slider end, which also appear in narcissu's diff. And Hard is following ds so i dont find it a big gap. Dunno if it's really 'missing' normal...

edit: ok ok lol

ar=1 od=1 hp=1 cs=3 looks fine to me
and _Ag please don't hesitate to change my setting if you feel it's better

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Wafu

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Wafu 2016-08-16T16:47:56+00:00

Doyak wrote:

(Don't blame Wafu, it's me who asked for some help lol, just for some opinions)

Don't take this offensively. I was just joking about nobody complaining about some things 19 days after it was bubbled.

So, just by listening, you can notice the mp3 is pretty much some YT/Nicovideo rip or a very low quality re-encode. The distortion is noticeable very easily and you can tell it doesn't feel good for ears, everything is somehow noisy and unpleasant. The problem is not only it sounding bad, but the source this was ripped of was not even 128kbps, so what happened here is that it was reconverted to it and the only thing changed was increasing file size, your mp3 contains as much data as 64kbps one, which is not reasonable.

For a visual proof, I got a better mp3 and converted it to several bit rates. The spectrum shows how much of data does the mp3 contain.

Your mp3

192kbps (What you should be using and what I provide

128kbps (What you should be using if nothing better is found)

64kbps (Same quality as yours, you shouldn't be using that as it's unrankable)

Here's the mp3. You should be using it under any circumstance as it's provably not sufficient. Good luck with the map.

__Ag

614 posts

Joined July 2011

Topic Starter

__Ag 2016-08-17T01:11:19+00:00

Wafu wrote:
Doyak wrote:

(Don't blame Wafu, it's me who asked for some help lol, just for some opinions)
Don't take this offensively. I was just joking about nobody complaining about some things 19 days after it was bubbled.

So, just by listening, you can notice the mp3 is pretty much some YT/Nicovideo rip or a very low quality re-encode. The distortion is noticeable very easily and you can tell it doesn't feel good for ears, everything is somehow noisy and unpleasant. The problem is not only it sounding bad, but the source this was ripped of was not even 128kbps, so what happened here is that it was reconverted to it and the only thing changed was increasing file size, your mp3 contains as much data as 64kbps one, which is not reasonable.

For a visual proof, I got a better mp3 and converted it to several bit rates. The spectrum shows how much of data does the mp3 contain.

Your mp3
192kbps (What you should be using and what I provide
128kbps (What you should be using if nothing better is found)
64kbps (Same quality as yours, you shouldn't be using that as it's unrankable)

Here's the mp3. You should be using it under any circumstance as it's provably not sufficient. Good luck with the map.

OK，I changed the mp3 to 128,thanks for your opinions

__Ag

614 posts

Joined July 2011

Topic Starter

__Ag 2016-08-17T01:54:05+00:00

Doyak wrote:

(Don't blame Wafu, it's me who asked for some help lol, just for some opinions)

Anyways I think the hitsounds are really problmetic so I'm gonna pop the bubble for now.

[General]
* Okay let me ask the GD'ers: What's the point of using hitsounds? I'm talking about the hitnormal sounds on the GDs. I first thought they were muted, since they're way too quiet. Even with 100% effect / 60% music, I still couldn't really hear anything. We use hitsounds to give feedback to players. Therefore, they should be clearly audible for all clickable objects. I know this song calls for very soft hitsounds, but you went too much. So please increase them into reasonable volume. This is the current volume of hitnormal 11, 22, 33:

and the whistle is like this:

So even because of the large difference between them, hitnormal sound is even less noticeable. Same for 17th sampleset ofc.

* Also this

Wafu will give you a better mp3, so you might as well want to replace it, and you can fix the tags.

* You all can integrate the map's end. This seems more like gathering random difficulties rather than a 'mapset'.

* I also think the difficulty gap can be improved, but I wanna listen to the GD mappers' opinions too. So here's my opinion. This song can be mapped like double-bpm style, and Hard and Kira diff are doing that, using 1/4 beats on their base. But Easy/Normal diff don't. They're still being a raw-bpm style, where Easy has 1/1 beats as its base which feels more like 2/1 beats, and Normal has 1/2s which feels more like 1/1 beats. So to say, it's like having Beginner-Easy diff and Hard-Insane diff, while Normal diff is missing. Personally I think Easy could introduce some 1/2 beats (not just reverse arrows), and Normal should introduce some 1/4 beats for this double-bpm style mapset, because Hard diff is entirely mapped like they're just 1/2 beats.

*

[Easy]
* Assuming you don't add significantly more beats, even lower AR would work better. It's literally 1 or 2 objects on the screen now. So maybe try AR1.

[Normal]
* This diff isn't any different with a 152bpm Easy diff, so without any 1/4 beats AR5 is too high, so maybe try AR4.

[Hard]
* 00:24:215 (1) - 00:17:899 (4) - NC consistency?
* 01:14:741 (1) - This shape felt a bit weird, it can be more clean if the 1st-2nd dots' segment is parallel with 3rd-4th segment.
* 01:29:741 (3,4) - I get your intention but this can be a bit confusing because there were no such a long/complicated gaps before (nor after), so maybe it's better to just fill 1/2s out here.

[Kira]
* 00:37:636 (5,6) - Can I ask you why this scale is so small compared to 00:36:847 (1,2,3,4) - ? The music is getting intense imo.fixed
* 00:51:847 (5) - hmm I don't get what this does. It ignores 00:52:044 - this significant beat and there's no dragging sound there.Maybe the reason I changed mp3,I cant find this,if your means slider was badly,I want to know specific location
* 00:55:695 (5) - Seems overmapped. I don't care much about triplets for emphasis, but I think they should be avoided on these quiet parts. Hope you reconsider about that, and all similar things.fixed

*

Same for 01:14:741 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 02:05:268 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 02:43:162 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 03:08:426 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 03:33:689 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 03:46:320 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I guessThese parts have the kira sounds,I think used the stream was fine
* 02:00:136 (5,1) - 03:15:926 (5,1) - This looks badly overlapped because of the stack leniency.I changed the mp3,and fixed offset,so I cant find these places,but I fixed another stack leniency
* 02:42:374 (3,1) - Stack leniency made this stream really weird, please fix this.fixed

I need to check hitsounds after fixing the volume. Anyways call me back.

thanks for your modding,I helped sahuang and Narcissu to fixed easy and normal

moonlightleaf

2,170 posts

Joined September 2011

moonlightleaf 2016-08-17T05:14:15+00:00

Doyak wrote:

(Don't blame Wafu, it's me who asked for some help lol, just for some opinions)

Anyways I think the hitsounds are really problmetic so I'm gonna pop the bubble for now.

[General]
* Okay let me ask the GD'ers: What's the point of using hitsounds? I'm talking about the hitnormal sounds on the GDs. I first thought they were muted, since they're way too quiet. Even with 100% effect / 60% music, I still couldn't really hear anything. We use hitsounds to give feedback to players. Therefore, they should be clearly audible for all clickable objects. I know this song calls for very soft hitsounds, but you went too much. So please increase them into reasonable volume. This is the current volume of hitnormal 11, 22, 33:

and the whistle is like this:

So even because of the large difference between them, hitnormal sound is even less noticeable. Same for 17th sampleset ofc.

// ok , make it to be more loud

[Hard]
* 00:24:215 (1) - 00:17:899 (4) - NC consistency? --fix
* 01:14:741 (1) - This shape felt a bit weird, it can be more clean if the 1st-2nd dots' segment is parallel with 3rd-4th segment. --fix
* 01:29:741 (3,4) - I get your intention but this can be a bit confusing because there were no such a long/complicated gaps before (nor after), so maybe it's better to just fill 1/2s out here. --fix

I need to check hitsounds after fixing the volume. Anyways call me back.

thank you

diff and hitsound <- click

__Ag

614 posts

Joined July 2011

Topic Starter

__Ag 2016-08-17T05:27:35+00:00

all fixed and up,thank you

sahuang

2,294 posts

Joined December 2014

sahuang 2016-08-17T09:18:53+00:00

Preview Point 01:41:293 -

E

osu file format v14

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 101293
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 0.8

[Metadata]
Title:Kira Kira Serenade
TitleUnicode:きらきらセレナーデ
Artist:Melone (Ryoko Shintani)
ArtistUnicode:メローネ（新谷良子）
Creator:__Ag
Version:sahuang's Easy
Source:クロスワールド　-見知らぬ空のエターティア-
Tags:moonlightleaf sahuang narcissu Cross World -Mishiranu Sora no Etatia-, visual novel, BROCCOLI, ブロッコリー
BeatmapID:995158
BeatmapSetID:62957

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:3
OverallDifficulty:1
ApproachRate:1
SliderMultiplier:1.2
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Wafu

1,703 posts

Joined June 2011

Wafu 2016-08-17T12:56:26+00:00

@__Ag: No reason to change to 128kbps if we gave you the better one (or here if the link doesn't work in China). You should use the old offset 13163. I made the mp3 so it fits. No reason to still use the worse source, please change it.

__Ag

614 posts

Joined July 2011

Topic Starter

__Ag 2016-08-18T01:04:09+00:00

Wafu wrote:
@__Ag: No reason to change to 128kbps if we gave you the better one (or here if the link doesn't work in China). You should use the old offset 13163. I made the mp3 so it fits. No reason to still use the worse source, please change it.

ok,I changed it,thanks for your mp3

and @Doyak:Narcissu already fixed 17.wav

Doyak

osu! Alumni

2,623 posts

Joined November 2012

Doyak 2016-08-18T17:28:16+00:00

@sahuang: 02:29:741 (4) - Missing drum sampleset, and check the things I wrote on Normal because some things are duplicated here too.

@Narcissu: 00:58:162 - 00:59:741 - Where are the drum samplesets? 00:51:847 - 00:53:426 - 01:04:478 - 01:06:057 - 01:10:794 - 01:12:373 - they all have it. Also any reason why 00:56:584 - 01:02:899 - and 01:09:215 - 01:15:531 - 02:12:373 - 02:18:689 - etc are different? And 01:27:373 - 01:40:005 - 02:55:794 - 03:08:426 - why not add whistles? Only hitnormal doesn't emphasize the sound properly imo.

@ErMei: I think you'd better add some finishes on cymbal sounds, as your map doesn't emphasize any of them. 00:13:162 (1) - 00:25:794 (1) - 00:38:426 (1) - 00:51:057 (1) - 01:03:689 - 01:16:320 - 01:41:584 (1) - 02:06:847 (1) - 02:19:478 - 02:32:110 - 02:57:373 - 03:10:005 (1) - 03:22:636 (1) - 03:35:268 (1) - 03:47:899 - (hope I didn't miss any) are the ones that I recommend to add finish. If you don't like the default finish, use one of finishes on other diffs.
Also 01:28:162 (4,5) - sounds very weak while the music is very bright, so maybe use some default whistle instead? 01:40:794 (5,6) - These sound much better.
02:56:189 - should have whistle like 01:27:768 -
01:40:202 (2,3) - 03:08:426 (1,2) - hitsound consistency?
02:47:505 (5,1) - Come to think of it, you didn't use this anywhere else while those 'kira kira' sounds are just same sounds, and is the only use of 1/8s on this diff. I'd rather remove them because it's too inconsistent.
03:02:702 (3) - 01:34:281 (2) - Idk which hitsound is your intention, but seems inconsistent atm.

@__Ag: Let's fix some more things.
00:19:478 (1,3,4) - 00:25:991 (2,5) - 00:22:439 (7,1) - 00:33:491 (7,2) - 03:52:044 (4,5,1) - You like these overlaps? It rather seems weird for me, touching 'very little' of each other. Rather overlapping deeper, or not overlapping at all looks better imo. Obviously I pointed out very few of them, so consider about this and apply to the whole map if you agree.
I already mentioned some of them, but your 1/4 spacing varies throughout the map by very little, and some of them are almost touching each other, which looks bad. 00:27:373 (1,2) - 00:30:136 (2,1) - 00:34:478 (5,6) - 00:44:347 (5,1) - 00:55:794 (1,2) - 00:56:584 (4,5) - 01:02:110 (1,2) - 01:06:057 (4,5) - 01:07:636 (4,5) - 01:10:794 (5,6) - 01:12:373 (4,5) - 01:21:057 (1,1) - 02:37:637 (4,5) - 03:14:741 (1,2) - etc. They are vaguely overlapped and others have a clear empt space between them, so it hurts the structure of this map. Some of them are caused by stack leniency, so turn it on when you're editing to see if they're actually okay.
00:37:439 (4,1) - idk but you can stack this maybe? 01:37:636 (5,1) - this too
You barely fixed the triplets D: You said you fixed them but why 01:05:070 (7,8,1) - 01:06:649 (6,7,1) - 01:09:215 (5,6) - 01:11:386 (7,8,1) - 01:12:965 (6,7,1) -
I hope 01:17:110 (1,1,1) - 02:45:531 (1,1,1) - 02:36:058 (3,1) - 02:53:426 (4,5) - are less overlapped like 02:48:689 (1,1,1) - . I can barely see the body of the sliders.
01:51:847 (1,4) - This can fall apart as much as 01:51:057 (1,4) - , make it more balanced.
02:34:479 (5,7,1) - This looks bad because 7 appears when 5 is still on the screen, and even 7 is over 1, so you'd better avoid too much overlapping here. Same for 02:40:795 (5,7,1) -
and you still didn't fix this: 02:42:374 (3,1) - . The stream here is messed up because of the stack leniency. Idk if you turn of stack effects on editor, but just see how poor this looks: http://puu.sh/qFUC1/4abb6c1812.jpg
01:27:373 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 02:55:794 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - the scale of these two are too much different, and the transition from this and 02:57:373 (1) - 01:28:952 (1) - feels very weak considering how strong the sound is, compared to the previous pattern.
02:17:801 - 03:56:090 - You didn't 5% volume here.
Also I'll say the same finish thing I mentioned on Hard diff too, so check it. I see you used them on 01:41:189 (9) - and similar things, but not using anything on the stronger cymbals is weird. 01:41:584 (1) - and such things are the points that brings a new 'part' of the song, so they needs to be properly emphasized.
You can extend the spinner to 04:17:899 - here or something. I still can hear sounds clearly until there.

Narcissu

1,764 posts

Joined August 2012

Narcissu 2016-08-19T00:53:25+00:00

fix all,

SPOILER

osu file format v14

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TitleUnicode:きらきらセレナーデ
Artist:Melone (Ryoko Shintani)
ArtistUnicode:メローネ（新谷良子）
Creator:__Ag
Version:Narcissu's Normal
Source:クロスワールド　-見知らぬ空のエターティア-
Tags:moonlightleaf sahuang narcissu Cross World -Mishiranu Sora no Etatia-, visual novel, BROCCOLI, ブロッコリー
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__Ag

614 posts

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Topic Starter

__Ag 2016-08-19T01:40:24+00:00

Doyak wrote:
@__Ag: Let's fix some more things.
00:19:478 (1,3,4) - 00:25:991 (2,5) - 00:22:439 (7,1) - 00:33:491 (7,2) - 03:52:044 (4,5,1) - You like these overlaps? It rather seems weird for me, touching 'very little' of each other. Rather overlapping deeper, or not overlapping at all looks better imo. Obviously I pointed out very few of them, so consider about this and apply to the whole map if you agree.
I already mentioned some of them, but your 1/4 spacing varies throughout the map by very little, and some of them are almost touching each other, which looks bad. 00:27:373 (1,2) - 00:30:136 (2,1) - 00:34:478 (5,6) - 00:44:347 (5,1) - 00:55:794 (1,2) - 00:56:584 (4,5) - 01:02:110 (1,2) - 01:06:057 (4,5) - 01:07:636 (4,5) - 01:10:794 (5,6) - 01:12:373 (4,5) - 01:21:057 (1,1) - 02:37:637 (4,5) - 03:14:741 (1,2) - etc. They are vaguely overlapped and others have a clear empt space between them, so it hurts the structure of this map. Some of them are caused by stack leniency, so turn it on when you're editing to see if they're actually okay.
00:37:439 (4,1) - idk but you can stack this maybe? 01:37:636 (5,1) - this too
You barely fixed the triplets D: You said you fixed them but why 01:05:070 (7,8,1) - 01:06:649 (6,7,1) - 01:09:215 (5,6) -this fixed 01:11:386 (7,8,1) - 01:12:965 (6,7,1) - I think used triplets in these parts was fine.
I hope 01:17:110 (1,1,1) - 02:45:531 (1,1,1) - 02:36:058 (3,1) - 02:53:426 (4,5) - are less overlapped like 02:48:689 (1,1,1) - . I can barely see the body of the sliders.so I did NC in here,I hope you can accept it
01:51:847 (1,4) - This can fall apart as much as 01:51:057 (1,4) - , make it more balanced.
02:34:479 (5,7,1) - This looks bad because 7 appears when 5 is still on the screen, and even 7 is over 1, so you'd better avoid too much overlapping here. Same for 02:40:795 (5,7,1) -
and you still didn't fix this: 02:42:374 (3,1) - . The stream here is messed up because of the stack leniency. Idk if you turn of stack effects on editor, but just see how poor this looks: http://puu.sh/qFUC1/4abb6c1812.jpgI don't know why it shows on your computer，but I fixed it
01:27:373 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 02:55:794 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - the scale of these two are too much different, and the transition from this and 02:57:373 (1) - 01:28:952 (1) - feels very weak considering how strong the sound is, compared to the previous pattern.
02:17:801 - 03:56:090 - You didn't 5% volume here.
Also I'll say the same finish thing I mentioned on Hard diff too, so check it. I see you used them on 01:41:189 (9) - and similar things, but not using anything on the stronger cymbals is weird. 01:41:584 (1) - and such things are the points that brings a new 'part' of the song, so they needs to be properly emphasized.
You can extend the spinner to 04:17:899 - here or something. I still can hear sounds clearly until there.

no reply=fixed,thank you

and I helped sahuang fixed the drum sampleset

moonlightleaf

2,170 posts

Joined September 2011

moonlightleaf 2016-08-19T11:38:32+00:00

Doyak wrote:
@ErMei: I think you'd better add some finishes on cymbal

sounds, as your map doesn't emphasize any of them.

00:13:162 (1) - 00:25:794 (1) - 00:38:426 (1) - 00:51:057 (1) - 01:03:689 - 01:16:320 - 01:41:584 (1) - 02:06:847 (1) - 02:19:478 - 02:32:110 - 02:57:373 - 03:10:005 (1) - 03:22:636 (1) - 03:35:268 (1) - 03:47:899 - (hope I didn't miss any) are the ones that I recommend to add finish. If you don't like the default finish, use one of finishes on other diffs.

Also 01:28:162 (4,5) - sounds very weak while the music is very bright, so maybe use some default whistle instead?
// no , i keep now
01:40:794 (5,6) - These sound much better.
02:56:189 - should have whistle like 01:27:768 -
01:40:202 (2,3) - 03:08:426 (1,2) - hitsound consistency?
02:47:505 (5,1) - Come to think of it, you didn't use this anywhere else while those 'kira kira' sounds are just same sounds, and is the only use of 1/8s on this diff. I'd rather remove them because it's too inconsistent.
03:02:702 (3) - 01:34:281 (2) - Idk which hitsound is your intention, but seems inconsistent atm.

joker- wrote:
Hi~ req from chat in game.

[SB]
I'm not SB player, but I found spelling mistakes of

Japanese lyrics
　　 False 　　 →　　 True
どこまでも远く → どこまでも遠く
离れたとしても → 離れたとしても
たったひとつの言叶 → たったひとつの言葉
あなたの梦を叶えられますか？ → あなたの夢を叶えられますか

？
あなたの后ろを歩くことができるでしょう? → あなたの後ろを

歩くことができるでしょう?
安らぎを赠りたい → 安らぎを贈りたい
见知らぬ空の下 → 見知らぬ空の下
あなたの笑顔を见られますか？ → あなたの笑顔を見られますか

？
わたしを见つめて → わたしを見つめて
わたしだけ见つめて → わたしだけ見つめて
最后のひとことーー → 最後のひとことーー
たったひとつの笑颜 → たったひとつの笑顔
あの顷のわたし → あの頃のわたし

references: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6fOD3nXRMc

// fix all and change another font

New Font DL

The map look good! GL!

no reply = fix , thank you Doyak & joker-

add soft-hitfinish22.wav , bg2.jpg , sb-file

SBfile + Diff + wav DL

Last edited by moonlightleaf 2016-08-20T03:19:41+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

__Ag

614 posts

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Topic Starter

__Ag 2016-08-19T13:42:40+00:00

@Doyak:all done

Doyak

osu! Alumni

2,623 posts

Joined November 2012

Doyak 2016-08-20T07:22:35+00:00

Some problems with the new changes

As Wafu said, the old BG is low-quality, therefore it's better to be changed. If the SB color fits the old BG and not the new one, find another BG that has both high quality, and blue-colored.
I barely know about storyboard, but some things are inconsistent throughout the diffs. Only Hard diff has Widescreen Support and Letterbox during breaks on. Also the "mapper:someone" appears only on Hard diff. Everything else is shared throughout all diffs.
soft-hitfinish22.wav is a bit problematic. It seems it has more than 5ms delay (at least Modding Assistant pointed that out) and from what I can see until 6ms there's no real audible beat. I think you can cut first few ms to remove almost-silent part.
"Thanks for playing" on the end goes weird on other diffs because they did all different for the end. Easy is ended much earlier than there, Normal ended early too, Insane has a spinner on there.
Epilepsy Warning is needed for all diffs as well.

The diffs are fine now imo, just some fixes on the SB would be great.

sahuang

2,294 posts

Joined December 2014

sahuang 2016-08-20T08:28:50+00:00

@ag
kira diff
04:06:847 (1) - 04:08:426 - 04:10:005 - 04:11:584 - missing whistles
04:11:584 (5) - NC

diff end same as narcissu

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: -(Cross World).mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 101584
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
EpilepsyWarning: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 0.8
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 0.8

[Metadata]
Title:Kira Kira Serenade
TitleUnicode:きらきらセレナーデ
Artist:Melone (Ryoko Shintani)
ArtistUnicode:メローネ（新谷良子）
Creator:__Ag
Version:sahuang's Easy
Source:クロスワールド　-見知らぬ空のエターティア-
Tags:moonlightleaf sahuang narcissu Cross World -Mishiranu Sora no Etatia-, visual novel, BROCCOLI, ブロッコリー
BeatmapID:995158
BeatmapSetID:62957

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:1
CircleSize:3
OverallDifficulty:1
ApproachRate:1
SliderMultiplier:1.2
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"BG.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
2,127047,137585
2,240731,245167
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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426,83,235794,2,0,B|395:91|395:91|365:85|343:102|343:102|311:111,1,120,2|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
246,182,237373,2,0,L|235:241,2,60,2|0|0,0:0|0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
150,170,238952,2,0,L|140:111,2,60,2|0|0,0:0|0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
137,265,240531,5,4,0:0:0:0:
26,156,246847,6,0,L|26:276,1,120,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
117,245,248426,2,0,L|117:125,1,120,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
207,93,250005,2,0,L|207:213,1,120,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
270,284,251584,2,0,P|315:293|373:280,1,90,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

tbh i dont think there's a problem with ending at different spots.
ranking criteria guidelines say diff should end at same point, but imo it's not necessary. For Easy i think the diff can end early, the kiai is over and the remaining part is calm and quiet, even if there's vocal the music is really going soft so i dont think we need to map here.
Regarding the sb, even if the map is finished there will be a 'skip' button at the bottom, if you dont click it you can go through the song and see the whole storyboard.Just depend on your own interest. so sb is not a problem.
anyways i mapped a bit to make ending same as narcissu so it should be fine.[/b]

__Ag

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__Ag 2016-08-20T08:36:06+00:00

sahuang wrote:
@ag
kira diff
04:06:847 (1) - 04:08:426 - 04:10:005 - 04:11:584 - missing whistlesi don't use whistle on my diff
04:11:584 (5) - NCfixed

and up

Doyak

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Doyak 2016-08-20T08:42:16+00:00

Different end is not a problem here. Still the storyboard is weird to me. Yes they can just not skip it and see the end, but they have to wait until it appears to see nothing until that. And they already 'finished to play' long ago so it's weird to wait for seconds to actually see "thanks for playing" sign.

Also Insane is more of a problem. There's a spinner on that spot, so they didn't even finish the map but it appears (actually they can't even see it clearly because it's a spinner). It doesn't make any sense imo.

sahuang

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sahuang 2016-08-20T08:44:43+00:00

Yes i agree.
Narcissu's ending seems fine to me and for sb so i used it.

moonlightleaf

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moonlightleaf 2016-08-20T09:00:42+00:00

sorry , i need 3-4 hours to fix all diff's sb , flower , "thanks for playing" , "mapper:xxx" and , gder's png file ,
-
just wait , it is a tired work

OK, really , 3hours57mins

累死了,你查查漏了啥,再传

------------------------------------------------------------------
finish22 has 1702ms

gder's png x4

bg3 x1
------------------------------------------------------------------

here is the .rar

sorry , i forget put your diff into rar , DL Here

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Doyak

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Doyak 2016-08-20T09:06:59+00:00

I'm not in hurry, but __Ag told me he is in hurry so I'm trying to help asap lol

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__Ag 2016-08-20T11:58:49+00:00

all done!!
I beg you! please~!!

sahuang

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sahuang 2016-08-20T12:05:48+00:00

I will do this to Doyak if he is still unsatisfied xP

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__Ag 2016-08-20T12:23:04+00:00

sahuang wrote:
I will do this to Doyak if he is still unsatisfied xP

Me tooXD

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Doyak 2016-08-21T17:55:03+00:00

Yes, I am not satisfied yet.

@moonlightleaf: I'm talking about the hitsound 'delay', not the total length.

You can see that there's no noticeable 'beat' until around 5.8ms, and the ranking criteria says no hitsound should have more than 5ms of delay. So you should cut the intro a bit to remove the quiet part. Use this if you want.

Btw, why does the 'thanks for playing' look like 'playiny'? y and g are drawn same lol

Also can I ask you one thing on your diff? From 02:19:478 - to 02:32:110 - , many of the sliderends are overmapped and I think at least 5% volume is needed to not give unnecessary feedback to players.

@__Ag: Hey, you didn't add BG3.jpg in the folder...

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Doyak 2016-08-21T18:07:30+00:00

I forgot to add this. I have no knowledge about the song's source, but Wafu told me that it's 100% unrelated to the source and is a random loli. So we suggest you to find a source-related BG instead.

and __Ag, I'm going to persuade you one more time. I think all the triplets on 01:03:689 - this part is unnecessary. There's nothing on the 1/8 ticks and it is emphasizing a quiet part. It's better to avoid overmapped clicks, as the players are reacting to something that doesn't exist on the song.

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__Ag 2016-08-22T00:08:56+00:00

ok, Ill fix them later

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sahuang

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sahuang 2016-08-22T00:48:22+00:00

Some suggestions are made because of the latest update so don't complain much about this -_-#

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moonlightleaf 2016-08-22T03:14:05+00:00

to Doyak :

disturb you so many times for sorry

fix all ,and thanks for making the finsh22.wav (sorry my mistake

lol , y->g

and 02:19:478 - 02:32:110 i really think it is ok

Edit : https://puu.sh/qJTgj.rar

include ->

to __Ag : check again , then update ,make sure this time no lose any file or others ,thank you

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__Ag

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__Ag 2016-08-22T03:55:53+00:00

@Doyak:
all fixed except BG
we dont want to change the BG,because we R LOLICONS:p

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moonlightleaf 2016-08-22T04:09:37+00:00

all diff :

LetterboxInBreaks: 0

Doyak

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Doyak 2016-08-22T08:28:24+00:00

That's not a proper reasoning. Why do you choose a BG that's not related to the song at all only to satisfy your preference? Anyway, if you really really do not want to change it, at least use a higher resolution of that BG. http://puu.sh/qK2H3/cd8693e3cd.jpg (Provided by Wafu)

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Doyak 2016-08-22T09:01:35+00:00

Also maximum BG size allowed (and recommended) is 1366x768, just in case you didn't know.

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Doyak 2016-08-22T09:36:11+00:00

On my first post

please remove ',' s on the tags.

__Ag

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__Ag 2016-08-22T13:07:51+00:00

fixed again

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Doyak 2016-08-22T14:45:18+00:00

Rebubbled.

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Kencho 2016-08-26T13:53:29+00:00

Black is Personal comments.
Bold Black is Highly recommended to fix.
Red is Unrankable that you should fix.

[sahuang's Easy]

Looks fine.

[Narcissu's Normal]

Looks fine.

[ErMei's Hard]

00:23:820 (3,1) - 沒疊好
00:30:531 (1,2) - 包好一點
01:19:281 (5,1) - ^
01:47:110 (3) - 可以ctrl+G
02:02:110 (5) - NC
02:55:399 - 這裡空了好難受，我覺得和02:55:597 (4) - 組成一個1/4滑條比較好，或者你可以選擇原地加個圓圈
03:17:505 (4,1) - 這flow卡手，我建議你先把03:17:899 (1) - ctrl+G，然後03:18:491 (2,3) - 移到03:17:110 (3) - 滑條尾的地方，當然形狀還有後面物件也要稍微改一下，給個截圖讓你參考一下
SPOILER
03:27:965 (2,3) - 沒疊好
03:30:136 (4,1) - 包好一點
03:53:820 (4,1) - 沒疊好

[Kira]

IRC mod

Log

2016-08-26 21:31 Kencho: 直接IRC好不好
2016-08-26 21:32 __Ag: 可以
2016-08-26 21:32 Kencho: 00:46:715 (1,1) - 這些地方NC是有什麼原因的嗎
2016-08-26 21:32 Kencho: 因為你前後3/4滑條的地方也沒有NC
2016-08-26 21:33 __Ag: 因为滑条的粘连,这种的地方我全部NC了,doyak也是这个意思
2016-08-26 21:33 Kencho: 所以說用了相同梗的滑條梗就NC了？
2016-08-26 21:33 __Ag: 对
2016-08-26 21:34 Kencho: 這個理由也可以，我就是覺得同樣節奏的地方一些NC一些不NC比較神奇
2016-08-26 21:35 __Ag: 这个没事,很多图都会这样做
2016-08-26 21:35 __Ag: 排列梗会nc
2016-08-26 21:36 Kencho: 00:48:294 (3,4,5) - 這個的話我建議間距大一點，像00:41:584 (1,2,3) - 
2016-08-26 21:36 __Ag: 可
2016-08-26 21:37 Kencho: 然後01:53:820 (5,1,2) - 這個間距不明顯我不太喜歡，就是說51是1/1，12是1/2但是間距看起來是一樣的
2016-08-26 21:38 Kencho: 想不到怎麼改的話http://puu.sh/qP5KD/21e199c5d2.jpg
2016-08-26 21:38 Kencho: 01:53:820 (5) - 疊在01:54:215 (1) - 上面
2016-08-26 21:39 Kencho: 02:49:083 (1) - ctrl+G怎樣
2016-08-26 21:40 Kencho: 03:09:610 (9) - 可以再放遠一點，現在這個距離容易誤認成1/2
2016-08-26 21:40 __Ag: 可
2016-08-26 21:42 Kencho: 01:04:084 (3,4,5) - 01:05:662 (2,3,4) - 01:10:400 (3,4,5) - 這幾個鈍角我希望可以改一下，不太好打
2016-08-26 21:43 Kencho: 01:06:057 (4) - 比如說這個，你可以試試這樣http://puu.sh/qP68a/ebfd590305.jpg
2016-08-26 21:45 Kencho: 01:41:189 (9) - 這個和03:09:610 (9) - 一樣，放遠一點，看上去是複製貼上的
2016-08-26 21:46 __Ag: 改好了
2016-08-26 21:47 Kencho: 好,你先傳一下