hanyuu_nanodesu wrote:

Yo M4M
Thank you for mod before -w-
Damn, I'm late to be first ;-;

Anyway, let's mod

[Sen]

dem mod

1. since it's only one diff, I'll put general mod here too (too lazy to make it's own section, lol) First, you don't need to add "spirited away" to the tags since it's already at the source. If you want, you can put this at tags instead : 千と千尋の神隠し it's the Japanese title, and the romanized one Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakushi Done, arigatou!
2. I think the title should be "Gone with the Wind" (remove the capital at W of "with" and T of "the") because with and the are conjunction. Fixed
3. Song setup -> design, disable widescreen support (it's only used for storyboard) and letterbox during break. Fixed
4. Just to make sure, you don't turn off the distance snap right? Because I see your spacing is kinda inconsistent. If you do, please turn it on so your spacing would be more consistent and your map would be neater. You can adjust the multiplier at the top right corner while pressing Alt. If you want jump, you can press alt while moving your notes -w- I re-did the whole map using the distance snap.. Thanks
5. Just suggestion since I'm not expert at hitsounding, but maybe you can use custom hitsound for the sound like here 00:17:910 00:18:767 00:19:282 and many more... Like this puu.sh/j4D56/f541acb039.zip or maybe you can find something better. I dunno tho, I can't play your whistle custom hitsound .-. I already added my own custom hitsounds but thanks anyway ~
6. Honestly I don't really see the difference between the part of the song in kiai mode and the one outside kiai mode .-. Maybe the kiai not really necessary... Idk what you're talking about :S I can clearly tell when kiai time starts and when it ends.. Or maybe I'm deaf or smth xD
7. Okay, done with general stuff, let's get into the map.
8. 00:00:424 (2) - Actually (personally) it's better if you don't stack it. Stacking at slider end at jumpy map would cause anti jump which make player surprised to play the next note and might end up with combo break. But it doesn't really matter if you keep it. I'd like to keep it for now :3
9. 00:13:967 (8) - Feels weird because the big beat (the clap, at white tick) falls at the slider end make it less emphasized. It would be better if you can click the big beat so I suggest to change this into two circles or ctrl+g these two 00:13:796 (7,8) - (your choice). But if you don't change, I think it would be better if (8) invisible blanket (3) http://puu.sh/j4CQk/d74060bd27.jpg Good idea, I turned the slider into two notes instead
10. 00:17:053 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Maybe you could make this stream parallel with 00:16:539 (1) - it'll look neater that way imo. http://puu.sh/j4CSY/b51c151b09.jpg True, fixed
11. Whoops, missed this one 00:12:424 (10) - you better NC here instead of here 00:12:939 (1) - because it's where the big sound is. Ops, fixed
12. 00:19:110 (7) - Same as the case above, even worse because the tail falls at big white tick which demand big emphasization Fixed
13. 00:20:396 (1) - This spinner is kinda out of place imo .-. there's not really sound and the music don't change much. I assume you are following the increasing background sound but that sound is faint. You better delete it and map this part. Just use the same rhythm as before. I actually am aware of that, yet I added the spinner on purpose due to the fact that I wanted to build the pace gradually, thus adding the spinner helps showing that something harder is coming :3
14. 00:27:853 (2) - I think you better change it so it points the other way. The way it is now ruin the flow and it might be surprising after such big jump. Good flow will reduce the shock more. http://puu.sh/j4Dgq/7542df0bc5.jpg Fixed
15. 00:37:624 (9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - ^ basically same problem, better make this points the other way. Tip : if you do change, just use ctrl+h Fixed, p.s. I know :3
16. 00:56:996 (1) - Remove NC, give this combo 00:56:310 (1) - a friend Done
17. 00:56:310 (1,1) - Blanket btw Done
18. 00:57:682 (3,4) - ^ Done
19. 01:00:424 starting here, your rhythm kinda getting boring .-. You just use 1/1 slider followed by two circles all of the time, maybe use some more variation? -w- Slow parts are always boring I've no idea how to change it tho.. Gonna leave it as is for now
20. 01:24:082 (4,5,6) - Maybe take advantage of the slider (3) shape more so it'll looks neater. http://puu.sh/j4DsV/54d1c1a0d6.jpg Done
21. 01:28:710 (7) - You have quite lot of these o-o Pay attention to it at your next map okay. Oke ;w;
22. 01:33:510 (9,10,11,12,13) - This stream seems off imo .-. Maybe swap the place with (8) would be better (stream then circle) http://puu.sh/j4DwC/803f79d875.jpg You're right, fixed
23. 01:47:910 (8) - I think you better make this into straight slider... Fixed
24. 02:00:510 (7) - Maybe you can change this slider shape so the shape with the stream looks like spiral. http://puu.sh/j4DAs/0c86037907.jpg it'll flow better that way too. Done
25. 02:00:510 (7) - Furthermore, I was wondering why this seems off and found out it started at blue tick x-x either add another note before this so it become a 1/2 slider which start at red tick http://puu.sh/j4DDu/7d24ba1e6e.jpg or remove one note so it become a 1/1 slider which start at white tick http://puu.sh/j4DG3/0832c89d31.jpg (Higher suggestion) Good point, fixed
    
26. 02:19:967 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Try to make this into a 6 point star shape. Use create polygon circles function (ctrl+shift+d) and use 6 points. Adjust the DS and adjust the position. But before that, because the notes are at red and white tick (not blue tick), firstly change the beat snap divisor (at the top right corner) to 1/2 (currently 1/4) and do that ^ If you don't change it, the note would be placed at blue tick. I'll be honest, I tried it out and I couldn't get it to work.. So I left it as it is :c
27. 02:28:539 (1) - Remove NC or remove here 02:28:196 (1) - like you always do Fixed
28. 02:37:453 (9) - Single 1/2 slider followed by a circle fit better imo. I'll keep the reverse slider for now :3
29. 02:40:196 (9) - Flow breaker, better curve it the other way http://puu.sh/j4DRE/23a4bab9e4.jpg <--- that's a rough example, you could make one better. Fixed
30. 02:41:567 (8) - ^ Also Fixed
31. 02:47:996 (5,6) - Anti jump, you better place them out of slider's tail http://puu.sh/j4E0c/b5e499106f.jpg Damn, fixed
32. 03:09:510 (1) - your sudden change of rhythm is surprising o-o People might think this is placed at white tick and click it too early. Maybe give more space between this note and the previous one to indicate rhythm change (I highly suggest this) Done
33. 03:29:910 (1,2) - Blanket pls Done
34. 03:31:282 (1,2) - ^ and everything else Done
35. 03:57:682 (2,3,4) - Same as before. Also done
36. 04:00:424 (2,3,4) - ^ Done
37. 04:12:424 (1) - Move this to the left a bit so the flow to the next note would be better http://puu.sh/j4EbA/e1fda014df.jpg you might as well change the shape a bit http://puu.sh/j4EcA/3b8dd0d27f.jpg Fixed
38. 04:59:910 (7) - This better http://puu.sh/j4EfJ/38093f612f.jpg Done
39. 05:00:339 You can add a note here to make a triplet since there's a significant sound that support it. Done
40. 05:20:996 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Yeah, make these to 6 point star as well, use the technique above ^ Same as before ;_;
41. 05:55:282 (1) - This slider looks weird .-. maybe you could use normal slider wave... http://puu.sh/j4ElV/fa7bf22683.jpg you could spin it if you want, press ctrl+shift+R while selecting it. Wavyyyyy ~~~ Done
42. 05:56:653 (1) - If you do that ^ you can symmetry this. ^
43. 05:58:024 (1) - Maybe try to gradually reduce the spinner sound to make a fade out effect Idek how to reduce the spinner sound ;_;

That's all, pretty big mod ehh? ^^ I'm in good mood today -w-
Overall, your rhythm is already pretty good since the song is prettily simple and uses the same rhythm. But your placement is still messy xD maybe try to make your placement neater, it'll be a huge plus point. Try to make your flow smoother too, as I see, the current flow is pointy
Good luck~^^

Lasse wrote:

Metadata:
I suggest you make the source "千と千尋の神隠し" (original name of the movie)
and add "spirited away" to the tags Done

for the map:

00:06:939 (7) - NC for consistency Done
00:09:682 (8) - ^ Done
00:13:624 (6,7,1) - manually stack those with 0.1ds to look like this Done
00:14:310 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - rotate by rougly -10° (selection centre) Fixed
00:15:339 (2,3,4) - manually stack to go upwards Done
00:23:910 (5,6,7,8,9) - otate by rougly -15° (selection centre) Done
00:28:539 (5,6) - consider changing this a little to get a note/sliderstart on the downbeat at 00:28:882 and add nc there I reversed the Note-Slider into Slider-Note, feels much better now thanks
=> 00:29:910 (1) - remove nc Fixed
=> 00:30:253 (3) - add nc Fixed

00:59:739 (8) - - move a little bit down+right = using 00:59:053 (7) - as blanket Like This ?
01:24:082 (4,5,6) - ~50% volume here + some hitsounding to lead better into kiai Added the extra volume % and extra hitclap sound for the three notes
01:25:110 (1) - keep increasing hitsound volume until kiai (consider a custom spinnerspin.wav?) Increased hitsound volume gradually (50% to ~65%), still searching for spinnerspin.wav :/
01:59:482 (6) - unrankable issue! 5/6 are on the same tick seems like 5 belong on the white tick before 6
also consider making the 5/6 pattern more like this That's a good point, done
02:22:024 (9,1) - nc should be on 9 Done
02:36:082 (13) - use as blanket for 02:35:910 (12) - Done

03:57:682 (2,3,4) - move those upwards or 03:58:710 (1) - downwards, looks much better with proper blanketing, moce the singletaps after accordingly Fixed

04:01:453 (1,1) - keep increasing hitsound volume until kiai (consider a custom spinnerspin.wav?) Same as before

05:12:424 (8,1) - would look better wirth proper blanketing Fixed

05:17:567 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - consider spacing this a bit more, or maybe make it a little streamjump like this? That's not a bad idea at all haha! Done
05:18:253 (9,1) - change 9 accordingly to how you handled ^ and put hte nc on 05:18:253 (9) - instead of 05:18:424 (1) - Done
05:25:796 (4,5,6) - manually stack to make it go to the left Fixed
05:28:539 (4,5,6) - manually stack to make it go more to the right Idk about this one, since the slider before it and the slider after it have this Down n' Rightish direction, I'll keep it as is for now :3
05:33:853 (4,5,6) - manually stack to make it gomore to the left or down Fixed
05:58:024 (1) - get this spinner to fade out with lower hs volume sections Done

==> I have issues with the nc inconsistency, but it would probably be hard to fix with the pattern etc. you should get some opinions on the ncs, since many start on red ticks, while they would be better to start on the downbeats you hitsounded Alright, will do.

MokouSmoke wrote:

hi there, from your m4m queue
[Sen]
General:
- can add "Studio", "Ghibli", "Hayao", and "Miyazaki" to tags Done, thanks
- NCs are all over the place x.x i suggest you try to start NCs on downbeats as much as possible Working on it :/

Map:

shrunk for spacing

- 00:01:453 (7) - NC Done
- 00:04:196 (6) - ^ Done
- 00:05:224 (10) - move to (260,68) so 00:04:710 (7,8,9,10) - is a straight line Fixed
- 00:05:567 (3) , 00:11:053 (3) , etc...- suggest you start NCs here on downbeat (big white tickmark) instead of red tick mark but up to you I properly NC all notes on downbeat ^_^
- 00:09:510 (7) - flow can be better http://puu.sh/j5071/834e37e53f.jpg Not sure how to make it better :s
- 00:13:624 (6,7,1) - here you do start NC on downbeat. please be consistent Fixed
- 00:13:796 (1,2,3,4) - why is DS here so much smaller than 00:12:939 (2,3,4,5,6) ? Because stream follows, thought It'd be better to "rest" from jumping before the stream
- 00:15:682 (5) - fairly strong beat at 00:15:853 - maybe move 00:15:682 (5) to 00:15:853 and add a note at 00:15:682 ? Done
- 00:18:939 (7,1) - unstack or make into a triplet for consistency Fixed
- 00:34:367 (8) - a lot of NCs in this section don't start on downbeat. once again, up to you if you want to change As I said above, fixed all
- 00:36:596 (2,3,4) - unstack for better flow? http://puu.sh/j50OU/ab4adc62bd.jpg Fixed
- 00:41:053 (1) - remove NC here and add NC at 00:41:224 (2) Again, already done
- 01:09:339 (2) - end slider at 01:09:682 instead? That must've got accidentally messed up when I was making the slider, it wasn't intented. Fixed
- 01:27:853 (1) - same comment about NCs in this section. double-digit combo numbers don't look very nice imho Yet again, fixed all of them
- 01:27:853 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - flow isn't very smooth That was bothering me for a long time, fixed
- 01:33:596 (11) - remove clap here and add at 01:33:682 (12) - Accidentally placed again, fixed
- 01:32:996 (7) - move to (~164, ~80) or adjust shape for better flow Why not both
- 01:37:967 - random break is awkward. please add note here Done
- 01:52:710 (3,4) - unstack or triplet for consistency Unstacked instead
- 01:55:282 (2) - flatten slider for flow http://puu.sh/j51IP/1c0db3cd83.jpg Fixed!
- 01:55:624 (3,4) - same flow issue Fixed
- 01:56:482 (1,2,3,4) - DS Fixed
- 01:57:682 (8,1,2,3) - why is spacing so big all of a sudden? music is still calm here Used DS and its better now
- 02:07:453 (1) - remove NC and add NC at 02:07:624 (2) - Yet again, fixed
- 02:08:824 (1) - ^ ^^
- 02:09:853 (7,8) - 02:10:367 is a strong downbeat and needs something clickable. suggest you change rhythm so circles are at 02:09:853 and 02:10:367 and a 1/2 slider at 02:10:024 ? Great idea, done

- 02:24:082 (7,8,9,10,11) - flow can be better. here's a suggestion: http://puu.sh/j52ol/d6066586db.jpg Great suggestion, done
- 02:28:882 (3,4,5,6,7) - why is spacing so different here? I actually think this spacing is more appropriate for this difficulty and would increase DS in places like 02:25:453 (3,4,5) , 02:26:482 (1,2,3) , and 02:29:567 (1,2,3) as examples I re-positioned everything on that part using DS carefully

- 03:06:939 (2) - maybe add a finish? Done
- 03:08:653 (6,1) - i see you're mapping the brass instruments, but the music has an extra 1/2 beat pause before 03:09:510 (1) that isn't apparent to the player. i suggest you extend 03:08:653 (6) to 03:09:167 (red tick mark) and lower the SV of this slider to 0.67 to keep it the same length as the other sliders to give the player a clue that something in the music is changing. Struggled but I did it :3

- 03:11:396 - same thing. also NC 03:12:082 (6) Done
- 03:28:539 - DS is all over the place. it's ok to not follow DS, but there should be some reasoning behind it (for example, blanketing in this section). Did quite a few blankets, feels better now
- you stack at 03:29:567 (3,1) and 03:30:939 (3,1) but not at 03:32:310 (3,1) and 03:33:682 (3,1) - please be consistent with whatever you do Fixed
- 03:30:596 (2,3) - maybe ctrl+g Done
- 03:31:967 (2,3) - ^ Did a blanket instead
- 03:39:510 (1,2) - jump doesn't match song. suggest you move 03:40:539 (2) to (256, 192) Fixed
- 04:20:310 (8,1) - i'd rotate by 40 degrees around selection center and reposition 04:20:310 (8) so it blankets 04:20:653 (1) for better flow and aesthetics Did something very similar
- 04:21:682 (9) - rotate 90 degrees CCW and reposition for better flow Fixed
- 04:26:139 (3) - adjust shape for better flow http://puu.sh/j54OX/6bbb765610.jpg Fixed
- 04:28:539 (12) - can blanket around 04:28:882 (1) Done
- 04:31:110 (6,1,2) - spacing too large here imho. also, remove NC on 04:31:453 (1) and add NC on 04:31:624 (2) Fixed it
- 04:34:024 (3,4,5,6) - suggest you make this pattern a straight line Done
- 04:37:110 (1,3) - unnecessary overlap, you can stack here if you want. if you move 04:37:453 (3) , be sure to reposition 04:37:624 (4,5,6,7,8) for flow Got 'cha
- 04:42:424 (1) - remove NC here and add NC at 04:42:596 (2) - Done
- 04:50:996 (2,3) - why spacing so small here? No idea, fixed
- 05:02:996 (1) - remove NC here and add NC at 05:03:167 (2) - Done
- 05:05:910 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - suggest you use only 1 DS here before changing at 05:06:596 (1) - I used two but I still changed it
- 05:18:424 (2,3) - this is the only place you stack. suggest you unstack here for consistency Done
- 05:24:596 (8,9) - spacing is too small imho Made it larger
- 05:31:110 (4,5,6,7,8) - rotate by 151 degrees, ctrl+g, and move back to original location for better flow Woah, done
- 05:32:482 (4,5,6,7,8) - rotate by ~180 degrees, ctrl+g, and move back to original location for better flow. also can blanket 05:32:996 (9) Also done
- 05:35:053 (3,4,5,6,7) - can blanket 05:35:739 (8) Sweeet
- 05:45:510 (6,1) - reposition to (112, 256) for better flow and so 05:45:167 (4,5,6) is symmetric Thanks but the X,Y position wasn't exact, I made it symmetric :3
- 05:50:824 (5,1) - DS or stack here, otherwise it gets confused as 1/2 rhythm Done

well...this mod was a bit longer than I intended, but hope it helps and good luck!

Nitrousdragon wrote:

I feel generous enough that I'll give this a try.

00:05:395 (6,7) - It's for the difficulty spike isn't it? Well, I really do not think it fits in with the intensity currently, let alone at all. I do not like seeing those kinds of jumps, so I would say move 6 where 7 is. LOL I've no idea how that got moved there xD It was meant to be a triple in the first place, thanks for noticing
01:08:653 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Both of these parts could really have been replaced with circles instead of sliders. Remapped w both sliders and circles
03:28:539 - You are repeating this 8 times. People get bored by that stuff. Enough said. Reduced to 4 times :3

Look at how I do the back-and-forths in my song. I do not overlap while simultaneously going from top to bottom or left to right. Also, you have grid size 4. That's the tiniest you can get. If you look at other maps, people put targets everywhere. You are not going to get a lot of proficient flow if you go in 8 to 16 angles. I like you're trying to create equal space, but you could definitely reduce the DS multiplier to 1 when you think about it. Think of a circle with 360 numbers (360 degrees) printed on its outer edge. You have all 360 degrees you can use to create better flow, and in some cases, a better map overall. I like the streams that you created though. They are probably one of the smoothest I've seen. I'm very new to mapping as you can easily tell by now, I'm doing my best to learn and improve as much and fast as I can, thanks for giving me the info..and thanks for the generous comment too ^_^

Anyways, I hope that you can get this ranked! Thanks

VocaloidTACU wrote:

hello

from your m4m queue.



[Sen]

00:00:082 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - this pattern is small crowded imo.. check pattern please Remapped I believe it's better now

00:20:396 (1) - move to 00:20:482 - and end point is 00:21:682 - Fixed

00:23:224 (11) - NC Done

00:23:396 (1) - delete NC Done

00:30:596 (3,4) - weird Jump. check please Done

00:38:310 (11) - NC Done

00:38:482 (1) - delete NC Done

00:57:682 (4) - NC Done

00:59:053 (7) - ^ Done

01:01:796 (4) - ^ Done

01:04:539 (4) - ^ Done

01:07:282 (3) - ^ Done

01:10:024 (3) - ^ Done

01:10:710 (1) - delete NC Done

01:11:396 (3) - NC Done

01:12:767 (6) - ^ Done

01:15:510 (4) - ^ wrong stack. move to x:84 y:260 Fixed

01:18:253 (3) - NC Done

01:20:996 (3) - ^ Done

01:21:682 (1) - delete NC Done

01:22:367 (6) - NC Done

01:36:082 (1,2,3) - spacing error. check again Done

01:43:453 (4,5,6) - ^ Done

02:09:682 (5) - NC

02:32:310 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - maybe reduce an same distance imo I did :3

02:35:053 (4) - NC Done

02:46:024 (1,2,3) - ugly jump Fixed

02:50:139 (1,2,3) - ^ really confuse Also fixed

03:07:967 (4) - NC Done

03:10:882 (4) - ^ Done

03:16:282 (1) - move to 03:16:196 - I really thought It was more synced on red ticked but I'll take the advice from an expert ^^

03:16:967 (2) - move to 03:16:882 - ^

03:49:796 (2) - move to x:328 y:180 Done

03:50:482 (1,2) -

try this

more better Done

04:01:453 (1) - to looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong spinner this spinner must unrankable..so, need some beat in 04:01:453 - ~ 04:09:339 -

and 04:09:682 - ~ 04:12:082 - ' Fixed, I did keep the second slider but shortened it to less than 2~ seconds which I believe is rankable c:

04:15:682 (4) - really not recommended !! Changed it to stacked stream instead

04:24:253 (6) - add repeat arrow 1 time done

04:24:596 (1) - delete circle done

05:17:482 (8,1) - they need not jump I had it stacked before but I realised if that small jump is there it's less dull. I'll keep it that way for now~


hmm

Perhaps, you need more learn mapping. I'm new to this! Of course I do

your map pattern is really bad sry. I know thanks for the heads-up but unless we try we don't learn

please watching other rank maps, more learn. I do c:


have fun mapping

Asfand wrote:

Mod

2015-07-20 23:50 Asfand: yo
2015-07-20 23:50 Asfand: can I iirc mod
2015-07-20 23:50 Asfand: I looked at your map earlier today and I don't know how to type my mod accross
2015-07-20 23:50 [ Shark ]: u can forgive me since im really new to this.. what is irc ;_;
2015-07-20 23:51 Asfand: like through chat
2015-07-20 23:51 [ Shark ]: oh
2015-07-20 23:51 [ Shark ]: yes of course
2015-07-20 23:51 Asfand: and Ill ust post the log so that you can see later
2015-07-20 23:51 [ Shark ]: You talking about NM or M4M
2015-07-20 23:51 [ Shark ]: D:
2015-07-20 23:51 Asfand: NM
2015-07-20 23:51 Asfand: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/743097 Muffler - Gone with the Wind [Sen]]
2015-07-20 23:51 [ Shark ]: wait im updating it now
2015-07-20 23:51 [ Shark ]: dont wana get the old version :3
2015-07-20 23:52 Asfand: tell me when youa re done
2015-07-20 23:52 [ Shark ]: go
2015-07-20 23:52 Asfand: I feel like you pressure notes wrong
2015-07-20 23:52 Asfand: 00:00:082 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
2015-07-20 23:52 Asfand: first combo
2015-07-20 23:53 Asfand: the strong notes in this
2015-07-20 23:53 Asfand: imo are
2015-07-20 23:53 Asfand: 00:00:082 (1) -
2015-07-20 23:53 Asfand: 00:00:424 (2) -
2015-07-20 23:53 Asfand: 00:00:939 (5) -
2015-07-20 23:53 Asfand: and
2015-07-20 23:53 Asfand: 00:01:110 (6) -
2015-07-20 23:53 Asfand: if not all then at the very least the two clamps 2 and 6
2015-07-20 23:54 Asfand: but these notes are pressured (like they arent difficult? to hit)
2015-07-20 23:54 Asfand: so they kind of dont fit the music if you get what I mean
2015-07-20 23:54 [ Shark ]: So you mean that I should add more space between 4,5,6?
2015-07-20 23:55 Asfand: let me find an example I did on this
2015-07-20 23:55 Asfand: 2 sec
2015-07-20 23:55 Asfand: http://puu.sh/j57cF/6469cbdac1.osz
2015-07-20 23:55 Asfand: ACTION is editing K9 - Blindness [blind]
2015-07-20 23:55 Asfand: open this difficulty
2015-07-20 23:56 Asfand: tell me when ready
2015-07-20 23:57 [ Shark ]: ready
2015-07-20 23:57 Asfand: 00:05:462 (1,2,3) -
2015-07-20 23:57 Asfand: take this combo
2015-07-20 23:57 Asfand: here 3 is pressured
2015-07-20 23:57 Asfand: the jump angle gets a lot sharper
2015-07-20 23:58 Asfand: and its kind of "out of the way"
2015-07-20 23:58 [ Shark ]: Ah I SEE
2015-07-20 23:58 Asfand: so its harder to hit and the player needs to concentrate more to hit it (=its highlighted better)
2015-07-20 23:58 Asfand: 00:06:748 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - same with this combo
2015-07-20 23:58 [ Shark ]: understood
2015-07-20 23:59 Asfand: the second combo is very much like your combo
2015-07-20 23:59 Asfand: where the two end notes are pressured
2015-07-20 23:59 Asfand: and some in between
2015-07-20 23:59 Asfand: so 1 2 4 6 7
2015-07-20 23:59 Asfand: pressured in that combo
2015-07-21 00:00 [ Shark ]: Yeah
2015-07-21 00:00 Asfand: another way to highlight things is to change the flow direction
2015-07-21 00:00 [ Shark ]: So I should pressure some of mine too?
2015-07-21 00:00 Asfand: yeah
2015-07-21 00:00 [ Shark ]: Aight
2015-07-21 00:02 Asfand: very basic what I did here http://puu.sh/j6yxF/ce28986858.jpg
2015-07-21 00:02 Asfand: just rearranged a bit to pressure the notes 2 5 6 better
2015-07-21 00:02 Asfand: but these kind of things are up to the mapper
2015-07-21 00:03 [ Shark ]: I do understand that.. thing is people come and complain about DS afterwards ;w;
2015-07-21 00:03 Asfand: this is extra level though
2015-07-21 00:03 Asfand: so that isnt an issue
2015-07-21 00:03 [ Shark ]: Il do that then
2015-07-21 00:03 Asfand: it kinda goes throughout the map
2015-07-21 00:04 Asfand: so I think a lot needs to be remapped unfortunately
2015-07-21 00:04 [ Shark ]: Will do
2015-07-21 00:04 Asfand: hope it helped :>

[ Ernasis ] wrote:

m4m I guess? lol

Sen

• General comments
  -With this kind of song I feel that consistency is key with making this diff amazing. Use consistent DS and change when appropriate with the song. Switch it up with patterns such as triangles, squares, stars, tornados etc..
  -Why Ar 9.2 and od 9? Make the Ar 9.3 since that is more commonly used and od can be 8/8.5 Changed to AR9.3 and OD 8.5
  -To make perfect shapes, use Ctrl + Shift + D.
  Map
  00:00:424 (2,3,4,5,6) - here you can make a star pattern so it feels cleaner. I would but I'm not sure about this part
  00:01:453 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Mirror these with the previous pattern, Ctrl + H Using Ctrl + H there just stacks them on top of the previous ones.. Ill keep it as is for now
  00:01:967 (3,3,5) - DS is weird here, making it the same DS as before will make it feel clean Done
  00:09:339 (6) - move this to x:382 y:133 Fixed
  00:09:510 (7) - This can be removed or stacked to 00:08:824 (3) Great idea, done
  00:23:910 (5) - Why is the DS for the streams changing here? There isn't any sv change to indicate so. You can change to match the previous streams or change the previous stream Because it's gradually building up the diff, it starts w almost 0 DS and goes up
  00:54:939 (1,2) - You can blanket this better Fixed
  00:56:310 (1,2) - ^^^ Fixed
  00:57:682 (4,5) - ^^^ Fixed
  02:06:939 (4,5,6) - Doesn't match DS Fixed
  02:08:139 (3,4,5) - ^^^ Fixed
  02:21:339 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - To show the change in stream spacing, make the beginning of it closer. It's already closer by like 0.2 DS xD
  02:49:796 (8,1) - Blanket these better Fixed
  03:28:539 (1,2) - ^^^ Fixed
  03:29:910 (1,2) - Random change in DS Fixed
  04:23:910 (4,6) - ^^^ Fixed
  This map has crazy potential for complex and interesting patterns. You might want to look at the patterns you made and see if they should be perfect shapes or not. Try experimenting with a variety sliders as well. Considering building up to a climax and the opposite as well for the end. These things help with flow, anti-flow and other beat map stuff. PM me in game if you want a more in depth look into your map what changes should be done. BTW these are all suggestions so if you do not agree with it, its 100% okay if you do not use any of these suggestions.

Alyce wrote:

from #modreq

please M4M,my map link

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/319538

[General]

AudioLeadIn:1500　want as much as this it I've no idea what you mean by saying that ._.

[Sen]

00:07:453 (3,4) - stack it properly Fixed

00:12:253 (6,7,1) - ^ Fixed

00:22:367 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - do u not put placement in order? Fixed

suggestion

00:30:767 (4,5,6,7,8) - i think that you should fix the spacing My preferance, I'll keep it that way for now thanks

01:47:567 (4,5,6,7,8) - ^ ^

02:09:682 (1) - remove nc 　i think that it does not match music to turn on NC here My bad, fixed

02:10:367 (4) - add nc here fits music and thinks that it is natural Fixed

02:14:824 (3,4,5) - stack it properly Fixed

04:25:796 (1) - remove nc Done

04:26:139 (3) - add nc Done

04:27:167 (1) - remove nc Done

04:27:510 (4) - add nc Done

05:13:282 (4,5,6,7,8) - u should fix the spacing ?

Done

gl Thanks!

1. Combo 1 color is too blend with bg, it'll make hard to play. might increase the brightness of the color?
2. add 2000ms audio lead on .osu file please. current one is too sudden. just open .osu file and choose "Audio Lead In", change from 0 to 2000

1. 00:01:110 (6) - : bad jump pattern imo. how about move this to 256 312 ? it'll make better triangle jump (same as you did on 00:02:139 (4,5,6) - )
2. 00:12:253 (6,7,1) - : not stacked properly, please fix this
3. 00:14:739 (9) - : im sure there's nothing here. delete note please. usually dnb is using 5 circle streams
4. 00:17:482 (8) - : ^
5. 00:20:224 (9) - : ^
6. 00:43:967 (9) - : nc here? to support the end of the stream? (it'll make the hp increased)
7. 01:49:796 (1) - : add finish? it'll support the music
8. 02:00:424 (6) - : long slider isn't really fit the pattern since I thought I'll be clicking 1/2s (there's strong note at 02:00:596 - ) so probably make them like this?
   
   SPOILER

   
9. 02:12:767 (5,6) - : ctrl+g them? i feel strange for sudden anti-jump here though you used a lot of jump on previous notes/patterns
10. 02:50:139 (1,3) - : ^
11. 02:55:624 (9) - : same as 01:49:796 -
12. 03:12:253 - : there's strong trumpet sound here why did you ignore this? ;w;
13. 04:01:282 - : rather than a lot of notes on white ticks, how about add note here? there's strong piano sound here too
14. 04:20:653 (1,2) - : same as 02:12:767 -
15. 04:28:882 (1) - : might put this on 120 188 to make better jump (since anti-jump is really didnt fit here to see all of your pattern, same as 02:12:767 - )
16. 04:34:539 (7,1) - : swap nc
17. 04:56:310 (9,1) - : ^

10nya wrote:

m4m from my queue

[General]

1. Combo 1 color is too blend with bg, it'll make hard to play. might increase the brightness of the color? Done
2. add 2000ms audio lead on .osu file please. current one is too sudden. just open .osu file and choose "Audio Lead In", change from 0 to 2000 I don't understand how to do this ;w;

[Sen]

1. 00:01:110 (6) - : bad jump pattern imo. how about move this to 256 312 ? it'll make better triangle jump (same as you did on 00:02:139 (4,5,6) - ) You're right, fixed
2. 00:12:253 (6,7,1) - : not stacked properly, please fix this Fixed
3. 00:14:739 (9) - : im sure there's nothing here. delete note please. usually dnb is using 5 circle streams Fixed
4. 00:17:482 (8) - : ^ Fixed
5. 00:20:224 (9) - : ^ Fixed
6. 00:43:967 (9) - : nc here? to support the end of the stream? (it'll make the hp increased) I did what you tell me but maybe BN or other mods don't agree with it :c
7. 01:49:796 (1) - : add finish? it'll support the music True, Fixed
8. 02:00:424 (6) - : long slider isn't really fit the pattern since I thought I'll be clicking 1/2s (there's strong note at 02:00:596 - ) so probably make them like this?
   
   SPOILER

   
   Done and added the hitsounded needed too ~
9. 02:12:767 (5,6) - : ctrl+g them? i feel strange for sudden anti-jump here though you used a lot of jump on previous notes/patterns Fixed
10. 02:50:139 (1,3) - : ^ Fixed
11. 02:55:624 (9) - : same as 01:49:796 - Done
12. 03:12:253 - : there's strong trumpet sound here why did you ignore this? ;w; Remapped that area :3
13. 04:01:282 - : rather than a lot of notes on white ticks, how about add note here? there's strong piano sound here too I don't map the piano sound at that point so Imma keep it as is for now :3
14. 04:20:653 (1,2) - : same as 02:12:767 - Done
15. 04:28:882 (1) - : might put this on 120 188 to make better jump (since anti-jump is really didnt fit here to see all of your pattern, same as 02:12:767 - ) I didn't move it to 120 188 But instead I Ctrl + G 04:28:882 (1,2) - and did a blanket as well, this did help me though so thanks!
16. 04:34:539 (7,1) - : swap nc 04:28:882 (1,2) -
17. 04:56:310 (9,1) - : ^ 04:28:882 (1,2) -

Nice diff, but you might overused jumps pattern like (04:23:396 (1,2,3,4,5) - I actually fixed this, I thought it was too much as well :3, this one has the same music as previous music (since dnb supposed to be have constant sound) so there's no big reason to make huge jumps like that. the music is really monotone, so yeah :\
that jumps bothered me a lot, the rest is fine ><!
you can poke me if you don't understand something.
good luck :3

DahplA wrote:

M4M

Sen

1. 00:02:824 (1) - Blanket could be improved Improved
2. 00:24:596 (1) - I recommend either changing this into 2 circles, or moving the slider in a different position in the timeline in order to get a clickable downbeat on 00:24:767. It makes sense having something to hit on these downbeats for better audio feedback, rather than a sliderend. Done
3. 00:41:910 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - I don't think there's anything in the music to suggest such large spacing increase. I recommend reducing the spacing here. Personal preferance D:
4. 01:50:996 (1) - Same as 00:24:596 (1) - Fixed
5. 01:53:053 (4,5,6,7,8) - I would give these some spacing instead of stacking for extra readability You're right, fixed
6. 02:48:939 (2) - Personally I think this shape is a bit too much for this part. I think making the sharp curve more subtle will improve it True, done
7. 04:24:253 (6) - Fix this blanket Fixed
8. 04:27:339 (9,10,1) - I don't think this triple is needed. 2 notes should do fine, and keeps it consistent like the rest of the map. Good catch, fixed
9. 04:45:167 (7) - Same as 00:24:596 (1) - Alright done
10. 05:04:367 (1) - ^ ^
11. 05:31:796 (1) - ^ ^
12. 05:33:167 (1) - ^ ^

Pretty good overall. DnB tends to be a bit repetitive, so there are no inconsistency issues here. Good luck getting ranked.Thanks!

iedesu wrote:

From modreqs

General: hitsounds and patterns are a bit boring, but Not bad.
your stream flowing is Unusual, But I don't know If it is okay, so ask for a help to famous or Elite mapper.

00:20:482: wrong spinner position, so delete and put circles and slider Fixed
00:30:082: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3444326 change like this Done
00:54:939~01:11:053 Too boring pattern, then change some note's beat Fixed
01:37:282:move note to x:240,y:192 Done
02:02:139~02:02:482: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3444349 DOne
03:14:139: This spinner timing is wrong, so change to circles and sliders Personal preferance
04:23:053: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3444379 Fixed
04:44:824~04:45:167: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3444391 Done
05:11:739: move to x:88, y:44 done
05:39:682: wrong position, so move to x:308, y:192 Nice catch, fixed
05:54:115: move to x:124,y:304 I dont know what slider/note u mean here, wrong timer

good luck:D

• 
  

  General

1. Change to soft sampleset and rename your hitsounds to soft-hit... since most of the skins drum-hitnormal won't fit this song, unless you add your own drum-hitnormal
2. I agree with iedesu, hitsound is the same through all the song, this makes it kinda boring
3. Try to fix the DS on the jumps
   
   

   Sen

   00:00:424 (2,3,4,5,6) - Star shape would make it funnier http://puu.sh/jdFt6/a328acd73b.jpg
   00:01:796 (2,4) - Fix spacing here to be consistent with 00:01:967 (3,5) - But I also prefer star shape
   00:02:824 (1,2) - Improve blanket
   00:03:339 (2,1) - Would look better if they were stacked. Slider tail on 2
   00:04:710 (2,3,4) - Keep same DS here
   00:04:196 (1,5) - Stack is better
   00:05:567 (1,2) - Bad flow, slider is pointing to the right
   00:08:653 (2,3,4,5) - Keep same DS
   00:11:567 (2,4) - Fix this triangle?
   00:12:424 (1,2) - Would look better blanketed
4. Streams from this part on sounds overmapped to my ears
   00:14:824 (9,10,1) - Constant DS please!
   00:15:339 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Fix triangle shape
   00:23:053 (9,10,1,2,3) - DS constant
   00:30:253 (1,2,3) - ^
   00:31:453 (9) - Why the DS is .94 here and higher on the rest of the map?
   00:36:596 (5,6,7,8,1) - Keep DS on!
   00:37:110 (1,2,3) - ^ I'll stop here for DS and look for the rest
   00:40:196 (2,3,4) - Fix triangle shape
   00:41:224 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - http://puu.sh/jdG5O/f05a7d4de3.jpg would look much better
   00:56:310 (1,2) - Improve blanket
   00:57:682 (1,2) - ^
   01:22:367 (1,2) - ^
   01:39:853 (6,7,1) - Fix star shape
   02:11:053 - 02:11:739 - this section should be all streaming
   02:18:424 (8,1) - Quite large jump comapared to the rest of the map
   02:18:767 (2,3) - ^
   02:35:396 (3,4,5,6,7) - Fix star shape
   02:49:624 (7,8) - weird flow
   03:07:282 (3,1) - Blanket is 100000% off :s and this 1/4 is not fitting the song at all
   03:12:253 - Miss beat
   03:10:196 (3,1) - Improve blanket :3
   03:12:424 (1,2,3,4,5) - Make a square?:p this shape is awkward
   03:12:424 - I recommend placing spinner from here to be sincere
   03:17:224 - there's nothing here to place this 03:17:482 (3) - . Remove reverse arrow and move this slider to 03:17:739 -
   03:36:767 (1,2) - Improve blanket
   03:57:682 (2,4,1) - ^
   04:47:739 (7,2) - ^
   04:48:082 (1,3,7) - Make them on the same Y
   04:53:567 (1,2,3,4) - Fix square shape
   05:50:310 (2,3,4,5) - Weird shape, square would look better

Lumael wrote:

M4M Request on your queue

• 
  

  General

1. Change to soft sampleset and rename your hitsounds to soft-hit... since most of the skins drum-hitnormal won't fit this song, unless you add your own drum-hitnormal I added my own drum-hitnormal instead, thanks
2. I agree with iedesu, hitsound is the same through all the song, this makes it kinda boring I'm doing my best sorry that I fail to impress
3. Try to fix the DS on the jumps I'm working on it
   
   

   Sen

   00:00:424 (2,3,4,5,6) - Star shape would make it funnier http://puu.sh/jdFt6/a328acd73b.jpg Done..
   00:01:796 (2,4) - Fix spacing here to be consistent with 00:01:967 (3,5) - But I also prefer star shape Done
   00:02:824 (1,2) - Improve blanket Yup
   00:03:339 (2,1) - Would look better if they were stacked. Slider tail on 2 Ha yup
   00:04:710 (2,3,4) - Keep same DS here Done
   00:04:196 (1,5) - Stack is better Done
   00:05:567 (1,2) - Bad flow, slider is pointing to the right Fixed
   00:08:653 (2,3,4,5) - Keep same DS Done
   00:11:567 (2,4) - Fix this triangle? Yep
   00:12:424 (1,2) - Would look better blanketed I thought so too
4. Streams from this part on sounds overmapped to my ears C:
   00:14:824 (9,10,1) - Constant DS please! Done
   00:15:339 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Fix triangle shape Done
   00:23:053 (9,10,1,2,3) - DS constant Fixed except 00:23:567 (2,3) - which is meant to be a jump C:
   00:30:253 (1,2,3) - ^ Fixed
   00:31:453 (9) - Why the DS is .94 here and higher on the rest of the map? Idk how that got there tbh, fixed
   00:36:596 (5,6,7,8,1) - Keep DS on! Yup
   00:37:110 (1,2,3) - ^ I'll stop here for DS and look for the rest
   00:40:196 (2,3,4) - Fix triangle shape Done
   00:41:224 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - http://puu.sh/jdG5O/f05a7d4de3.jpg would look much better Nah, just your opinion I'll keep it this way
   00:56:310 (1,2) - Improve blanket Done
   00:57:682 (1,2) - ^ Done
   01:22:367 (1,2) - ^ Done
   01:39:853 (6,7,1) - Fix star shape Done
   02:11:053 - 02:11:739 - this section should be all streaming Yup, I'm aware? I just build the tension gradually
   02:18:424 (8,1) - Quite large jump comapared to the rest of the map Sexy as well ain't it
   02:18:767 (2,3) - ^ ^
   02:35:396 (3,4,5,6,7) - Fix star shape Done
   02:49:624 (7,8) - weird flow Fixed
   03:07:282 (3,1) - Blanket is 100000% off :s and this 1/4 is not fitting the song at all That got misplaced by accident, fixed
   03:12:253 - Miss beat Done
   03:10:196 (3,1) - Improve blanket :3 How does one improve a blanket even more
   03:12:424 (1,2,3,4,5) - Make a square?:p this shape is awkward Done
   03:12:424 - I recommend placing spinner from here to be sincere Ima keep it for now
   03:17:224 - there's nothing here to place this 03:17:482 (3) - . Remove reverse arrow and move this slider to 03:17:739 - This makes no sense
   03:36:767 (1,2) - Improve blanket Done
   03:57:682 (2,4,1) - ^ Done
   04:47:739 (7,2) - ^ Done
   04:48:082 (1,3,7) - Make them on the same Y Done
   04:53:567 (1,2,3,4) - Fix square shape Done
   05:50:310 (2,3,4,5) - Weird shape, square would look better

Done

GL!

1. 00:00:424 (2,3,4,5,6) - u can use the "create polygon circles" function to make evenly spaced shapes. just set the beat snap divisor to 1/2 beforehand, then you can create a circle with 5 points, rotate it and rearrange the order.
2. 00:01:796 (2,3,4,5,6) - same
3. 00:02:824 (1,2) - pretty sloppy blanket, you should make it look more like this. http://puu.sh/jdMoS.jpg there are a more blanket fails but you should try to spot them yourself. or if they werent intended to blanket in the first place, you should move the circle away so it doesnt look like a fail blanket ha
4. 00:15:339 (2,3,4) - turn of grid snap when u place these because the spacing is uneven which is pretty ugly
5. 00:24:424 (2,3,1,2,3) - you can center this 00:24:767 (1) - and copy paste flip this 00:24:424 (2,3) - so its symmetrical http://puu.sh/jdMKq.jpg
6. 00:32:996 (1) - just a small suggestion, but I think making this slider like http://puu.sh/jdMOR.jpg is pretty cool
7. 00:42:510 (8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - same thing here you can use create polygon circles to make a nicer round shape, set beat snap divisor to 1/4 and put in 1.2x ds.
8. 01:21:682 (2,3) - are you trying to follow the violin in the background? I dont think you should use the claps to follow them then, because it sounds exactly like the kick in the music, so at first it seems like youre following the kicks by putting one every stanza, then you suddenly put them 1/1 distance apart which is really offputting.
9. 01:22:367 (1) - this is a really random slider, I cant hear any change in the music that calls for this. the sweep maybe? you transition back to circles after it again and you already have a spinner at 01:25:110 (1) - to mark the sweep. I suggest you just keep going with the 1/1 until the spinner
10. 01:27:853 - there should be more consistency in where you put the triplets and 5s in the timeline during the kiai. The most common place to do it in dnb songs like this is right in the middle. http://puu.sh/jdNxl.jpg right now they just seem placed randomly. you shouldnt avert from this unless youre gonna follow something else in the music, since these are just additive and following the constant hihats they should always be the same. like you could start a stream at 01:38:310 - and connect it with your triplet and make it a 7, which works because it emphasizes the builup and finish. you do a better job at this during the second kiai though, but there are still some out of place ones there too.
11. 01:48:596 (2,3) - you can copy pastye 01:48:253 (9,1) - and place it so the jumps are symmetrical, look cleaner
12. 01:58:539 (5,6,7,8,9,1) - create polygon circle
13. 02:00:596 (7,8,9,1,2) - yes create polygon circle is my best friend
14. 02:20:482 (4,5,6) - you can copy paste 02:19:967 (1,2,3) - and ctrl+h+j to make it symmetrical http://puu.sh/jdOnL.jpg
15. 03:07:282 (3) - it feels reaaally weird to click and hold a long-ass slider when the long sound of whatever wind instrument starts at 03:06:939 -
16. 03:10:196 (3) - same
17. 03:55:967 (1) - in addition to what i mentioned earlier, there is a particularily strong beat at 03:56:653 - that really shouldnt be missed.
18. 04:09:682 - I think the spinner should start here instead, so its same lenght as 01:25:110 (1) - which is basically the same thing
19. 04:23:910 - make 5 here
20. 04:44:653 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - - I think it would fit well if you replaced these with 1/4 slider jumps. and fill this gap 04:45:253 -
21. 05:04:538 (1,2,3) - center 05:04:710 (2) - and copy paste flip 05:04:538 (1) - position at 05:04:882 - so its symmetrical
22. 05:38:482 (9,9) - i think these are excessively curved

Kotonoha wrote:

hello, m4m

[Sen]

1. 00:00:424 (2,3,4,5,6) - u can use the "create polygon circles" function to make evenly spaced shapes. just set the beat snap divisor to 1/2 beforehand, then you can create a circle with 5 points, rotate it and rearrange the order. Done
2. 00:01:796 (2,3,4,5,6) - same Also done
3. 00:02:824 (1,2) - pretty sloppy blanket, you should make it look more like this. http://puu.sh/jdMoS.jpg there are a more blanket fails but you should try to spot them yourself. or if they werent intended to blanket in the first place, you should move the circle away so it doesnt look like a fail blanket ha Fixed thanks
4. 00:15:339 (2,3,4) - turn of grid snap when u place these because the spacing is uneven which is pretty ugly Yup
5. 00:24:424 (2,3,1,2,3) - you can center this 00:24:767 (1) - and copy paste flip this 00:24:424 (2,3) - so its symmetrical http://puu.sh/jdMKq.jpg Good point, done
6. 00:32:996 (1) - just a small suggestion, but I think making this slider like http://puu.sh/jdMOR.jpg is pretty cool You are cool :3
7. 00:42:510 (8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - same thing here you can use create polygon circles to make a nicer round shape, set beat snap divisor to 1/4 and put in 1.2x ds. I tried bout couldnt really make it T_T
8. 01:21:682 (2,3) - are you trying to follow the violin in the background? I dont think you should use the claps to follow them then, because it sounds exactly like the kick in the music, so at first it seems like youre following the kicks by putting one every stanza, then you suddenly put them 1/1 distance apart which is really offputting. Good point, fixed
9. 01:22:367 (1) - this is a really random slider, I cant hear any change in the music that calls for this. the sweep maybe? you transition back to circles after it again and you already have a spinner at 01:25:110 (1) - to mark the sweep. I suggest you just keep going with the 1/1 until the spinner I thought of doing that yet I didnt because it gets boring of the same pattern over and over again
10. 01:27:853 - there should be more consistency in where you put the triplets and 5s in the timeline during the kiai. The most common place to do it in dnb songs like this is right in the middle. http://puu.sh/jdNxl.jpg right now they just seem placed randomly. you shouldnt avert from this unless youre gonna follow something else in the music, since these are just additive and following the constant hihats they should always be the same. like you could start a stream at 01:38:310 - and connect it with your triplet and make it a 7, which works because it emphasizes the builup and finish. you do a better job at this during the second kiai though, but there are still some out of place ones there too. This is some very serious piece of info, I'll give this a very deep look, thanks so much
11. 01:48:596 (2,3) - you can copy pastye 01:48:253 (9,1) - and place it so the jumps are symmetrical, look cleaner Done
12. 01:58:539 (5,6,7,8,9,1) - create polygon circle Took me a while but done
13. 02:00:596 (7,8,9,1,2) - yes create polygon circle is my best friend Can't do this
14. 02:20:482 (4,5,6) - you can copy paste 02:19:967 (1,2,3) - and ctrl+h+j to make it symmetrical http://puu.sh/jdOnL.jpg I actually dont want this to be symmetrical :s
15. 03:07:282 (3) - it feels reaaally weird to click and hold a long-ass slider when the long sound of whatever wind instrument starts at 03:06:939 - Fixed
16. 03:10:196 (3) - same ^
17. 03:55:967 (1) - in addition to what i mentioned earlier, there is a particularily strong beat at 03:56:653 - that really shouldnt be missed. Fixed
18. 04:09:682 - I think the spinner should start here instead, so its same lenght as 01:25:110 (1) - which is basically the same thing Good catch, fixed
19. 04:23:910 - make 5 here Yup yup
20. 04:44:653 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - - I think it would fit well if you replaced these with 1/4 slider jumps. and fill this gap 04:45:253 - idk man, I think Imma keep it :s
21. 05:04:538 (1,2,3) - center 05:04:710 (2) - and copy paste flip 05:04:538 (1) - position at 05:04:882 - so its symmetrical Done
22. 05:38:482 (9,9) - i think these are excessively curved Fixed :3

So, if you wanna follow my suggestion on the timeline placements with the 5s and triplets, you can still use 1/4 sliders for more options to manage the space. you never used them anyways. also it might seem like im nazi with the symmetry and "create polygon circle" deal, but when there is a geometrical shape that has uneven sides, it just looks bad and would look 1000x cleaner if it was perfect. but pretty nice map though, and great song, good luck !! Thanks a lot for the great mod! Stars are greatly appreciated <3

inspectorscout wrote:

Yo, from my queue, I'm finally here

Make hp drain higher, it's really low Changed HP Drain to 7 and OD to 9

Sen

00:04:196 (1) - place this slider a little bit off the previous note to warn the player for the anti-jump Done

00:25:282 (4,5,6,7,8) - curve this up, it look so much better than just straight. Alright done

00:34:882 (3,4,5,6,7) - ^ Yup

00:34:282 (7) - I suggest placing this note between the previous slider-end and the next sliderhead, since it looks kinda bad stacked.
this also counts for everywhere else you do this in your map btw ^.^ I never liked that either, fixed at all places in the map :3

00:38:739 (2) - ^ Ye

00:44:053 - maybe spinner? I wouldn't really

01:36:596 (4,5,6,7) - stream looks kinda weird, did you use 'convert slider to stream'? I think you did, it's just my eyes being weird I guess I didn't actually xD But curved the stream so it looks better

01:40:196 (1) - maybe place this above the 6 to keep some equal spacing? Ye sure why not

01:52:710 (2) - more to the right Yep

02:01:110 (1) - ^ done

02:03:853 (3) - upwards please Done

02:07:624 (1) - maybe curve more? Curved slightly more

02:36:939 (4,5,6,7,8) - curve? Mappers preferance Ig

04:34:196 (4,5,1) - make it go a bit upwards when you play, meaning that 5 should be a bit higher and 1 a bit more, or place 4 lower and 5 just a bit lower Good idea done

04:49:967 (3,4,5) - curve Fixed

04:52:796 (4,5,6,7) - curve these like the slider before it is curved Fixed

05:02:310 (4,5,6,7,8) - curve upwards Fixed

I like this map, it is really nice, but extremely repetitive and...you don't like curves do you? Also, note placement seems a bit random sometimes. Try to find some mods that are experts in jump style maps, and when you have done that, call me back to do a recheck (or just go get a BN )
Also, my apologies again for the late mod Alright will do!

Good luck!
~Scout

No_Gu wrote:

sorry but im going to quit the game.so I cant give you the mod.5stars as my compensation.

General

Sen

Yoges wrote:

Your M4M.

General

Everything looks ok

Sen

00:06:253 (3) - Maybe rotate this anti clockwise 36 degrees through its centre so the arc lines up with the 2 pervious to it like this? Flows better to me. Ye fixed
00:15:853 (6,7,8) - Change this to either all stacked or all repeat. It throws you off. All stacked

The map has already been modded a lot & with 30+ sp there's not a lot I can do for it especially with this kind of mapping style.
It's really jagged and there never really seems to be any obvious pattern anywhere. The patterns overall just look kind of static and random, not to mention ugly and boring. This might be due to an overuse of DS tho it's more likely because you're just new to mapping. I'd recommend looking at some ranked maps of the same genre. I am new to mapping and I am aware of the fact that they can be random and boring, even though the only way for us to learn is to keep trying and that exactly what I'm doing. Thanks for the help c:

Kuki wrote:

00:02:482 (6,2,3,5,1) - Overlap city, please try some stacks here or just fix most if not all overlaps. Ye alright
00:03:853 (5,1,5) - Stack. First one ain't stacked intenionally, but stacked the second one
00:25:282 (4,5,6,7) - Curve this down, not up. Done thanks
00:35:224 (7,8,9,1) - Even out spacing here, try to make a square pattern perhaps. Yep done
02:29:396 (7,3) - Fix overlap or stack. Stacked
03:06:596 (1,2) - This looks like a question mark, if you didn't do this on purpose I sugggest changing the style because it may steal away the feel of the map. It was on purpose
05:05:910 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Try to make this look a little cleaner, stack a little and fix overlaps. It was meant to overlap so I'll keep it

Seto Kousuke wrote:

Heya, my part of the M4M ^^

So, these kind of maps when modded already by many people is always a bit tricky to find stuff to actually try to help, the rythm is fine, the patterns too, so the major thing I noticed was some notes that would have a better flow in different positions, so most of my mod will be focused on coordinates of those notes that ''in my opinion'' would look and play better, i hope it helps you ^^

The mod

00:06:253 (3) - This one would be better at x:224 y:48 and then you can repositionate 00:06:767 (4,1) - closer to it, depending on where and how exactly you do this. Alright yea

00:21:682 (8,9) - on this beggining, you could keep a smaller distance of all the notes because the song isn't really ''strong'' right now, so you could abuse your first jumps in parts like this, where you can clearly hear the song starting to change That was my initial plan and I've kept it like that, 00:21:682 (8,9) - are so close and when the NC starts the music also gets more intense thus adding a jump afterwards

00:35:739 (1,2,3) - those 2 notes stacked heading down looks a little weird, maybe consider stacking them upwards because of the direction of the slider? Yup fixed

00:38:310 (10) - i think this note plays better if you put it somewhere like x:160 y:219 Ye but y:219 was overlapping so I adjusted it

01:05:910 (1) - This calm part would feel better if in times like this one you put the note more far from the previous note, you can keep the patterns close and then make these kind of notes be played far, another example of note is this one 01:16:882 (1) - Good catch

01:29:053 (8) - In this part i think a better positioning of the next notes could be something like This (not exactly like this, but you get the idea...that ''triangle'') Yeah did something similar

01:30:082 (7) - maybe putting this note closer to the previous triplet and bringing the next slider together too Yeah done

01:32:482 (3) - This jump is a bit unecessary, you could make a pattern with the same feeling but in a different way, like positioning the slider at x:302 y:272 Hmm alright

02:36:424 (1) - This note is a bit confusing because of the previous slider...if you plan on keep that slider the way it is, a good idea would be placing this note at x:172 y:189 Did something similar

04:01:453 (1) - I think this part plays better if you delete the note after this slider and make a third reverse arrow MHmm sure why not

04:40:882 (9) - I think this slider is a little way too forced, both position and direction...consider changing it's place or rearranging the stream. Changed the slider position and direction

05:15:167 (9) - I don't really know why, but this slider bothers me a little right here...if you place him at x:215 y:225 he will be way more instintive Fixed

Also, if you think some of the things I said indeed makes sense for you, consider trying to change the positioning of some streams too, there isn't streams that i thought that were weird besides that one with the forced slider on the bottom...but idk, maybe you can find by yourself things that you think may play better ^^

A really fun map, looking foward to this one

[-Deemo-] wrote:

M4M asking for a ticket is allowed right?

[Sen]
00:06:939 (1,4) - I would make 1 the same shape as four (without the repeat of course) and blanket it, 1 being extremely curved right now doesn't look very good Fixed
00:25:282 (4,5,6,7,8) - This is considerably more spaced than 00:23:910 (4,5,6,7,8) - and there's no change in the music to justify it Fixed the spacing on the stream
00:57:682 (1) - Considerable more curved than everything thing else in this part ._. Fixed
01:22:367 (1) - The first curve is a lot lower than the second one and it's not centered Made it symmetrical now
01:48:424 (1,2,3) - Inconsistent spacing :v Fixed with DS
01:56:996 (3) - Considerably more curved than other things in this section Yup I'll keep that
02:13:110 (1) - Maybe make it similar to 02:12:424 (4) - Done
02:16:882 (8) - I would center the red anchor, just sayin Done
02:39:682 (4,5,6,7,8) - I would make 8 move down so it looks more curved Fixed

SPOILER

03:06:939 (2) - 03:09:853 (2) - There's technically nothing wrong with them but they look extremely ugly Maybe if you suggested how to change it I would
03:29:224 (2) - 03:30:596 (2) - ^ ^
03:58:710 (1) - Similar to 01:22:367 (1) - Also fixed
04:30:253 (1) - I would stack on 04:29:482 (5) - cuz neatness Yup done
04:54:939 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - I found this stream REALLY harsh compared to your previous ones Harsh? More like smoother? Still don't get what your suggestion is so Imma keep it
05:16:882 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - If you're making a discontinued stream, might as well move the second section a little further Yup moved a bit further

Overall, most of the map is visually appealing, but randomly having sliders like 04:36:424 (6) - kinda make it feel awkward, since most of the time the sliders aren't too curved

GL with your map~

Chaoslitz wrote:

M4M

[General]

1. Fine

[Sen]

1. 00:08:310 (1,2,3,4,5) - Flow here is extremely sharp and not really play well, you may probably change 00:08:310 (1) rather then those notes because that straight flow works fine imo Alright, changed the slider instead
2. 00:11:567 (2,3,4,5) - Try smaller spacing here, the music here is not very strong to use big jumps to represent Yup, made the spacing smaller
3. 00:16:024 (8,9) - ^ Same here
4. 00:27:339 (9,1) - ^ I actually wanna keep this one, it kinda fits since there's a note stall after it
5. 00:30:767 (4,5,6,7,8) - The stream not really looks well, try something like this? Yeah did something similar
   
   eg

   
6. 00:34:024 (6) - A bit overcurved Lessened the curve
7. 00:34:882 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - So you are having a curve flow in 00:34:882 (3,4,5,6,7), so I don't really suggest to place a right=angled jump in 00:35:224 (7,8,9) after the stream Yea I replaced those 2 right angled notes with a proper flow slider
8. 00:36:596 (6,7,8) - Hm overcurved Fixed
9. 00:38:139 (9) - Place a bit more to left for a better flow built up in 00:38:139 (9,10,1) Yeah done
10. 00:43:110 (7,8,9) - Place this under 00:42:424 (7) will be better Yeah you're right, done
11. 00:43:796 (13,14,1) - Jump to big Made it smaller
12. 00:57:682 (1,2) - Kinda misleading of spacing here Fixed it
13. 01:40:196 (1,2,3) - Difference of spacing here is too large 01:40:367 (2) - Brought this one closer
14. 01:46:196 (4,5,6) - Constant spacing please Ops haha
15. 01:47:910 (8,9) - Spacing here is too low compared to other patterns Remapped that area, I believe its fine now
16. 03:31:282 (1,2) - Misleading spacing too Same as before
17. 04:24:253 (6,7) - Anti-jump not really work here when the head of 04:24:424 (7) is placed higher then 04:24:253 (6) a lot, place it lower will better Yeah I did that
18. 04:27:682 (1) - Cancel NC No idea how that got there, fixed anyway
19. 04:52:539 (3,4,5,6,7) - Weird flow here, please tidy up the curve Yup made it tidier
20. 04:54:596 (3) - Offscreened, which is unrankable Repositioned it in-screen

Good luck

Default wrote:

This map is awesome

kwk wrote:

m4m

[General]

1. This is purely my opinion, but i think if you keep your DSing consistent throughout sections when its not a jump, the entire map will look a lot more structured, and i think structured dnb maps play a lot better. So things like 00:01:796 (2,3,4,5,6) - using 1.76x here should be consistent with 00:04:710 (2,3,4,5) - or like 00:06:082 (2,3) - and 00:06:253 (3,4,1) - should be kept the same ds. especially when its basically the same sound. Alright fixed

[Sen]

1. 00:03:510 (3,4,5,6) - i dont think this plays as well as you would like. Anti jump seems a bit jarring due to the reduced ds, suggest you just keep it at like 1.6x even though it will be a bit more difficult i dont think it matters too much. Made something better
2. 00:03:510 (3,1) - stack Stacked
3. 00:05:567 (1,2,3) - check your blankets, i wont mention them again but a lot of the blankets have issues. 00:09:682 (1,3) - 00:28:539 (6,2) - etc Fixed
4. 00:07:282 (2,3,4) - doesnt flow that well due to slider direction,http://puu.sh/pEhl9/88d8e5aede.png something like this is better Did something smilar to that
5. 00:09:682 (1,2) - better if you dont stack 2 under 1 and instead place it below? I like this actually, no fix
6. 00:11:053 (1,2,3,4,5) - better if you have 3 in the center of the curve, it looks significantly more appealing and can probably avoid the overlap on 5,1 Did something similar
7. 00:12:082 (5,6) - same ds as 00:11:053 (2,3,4,5) is better i think Il keep that
8. 00:12:424 (1,2,3,4,5) - http://puu.sh/pEhwK/a7a1559dbe.png instead? no matter what should still definitely move 2 out a bit for a nice blanket Done
   00:24:253 (7,8,9) - equilateral triangle is better That's symmetrical with the notes following it it's meant to be that way
9. 00:27:339 (9,1) - a bit excessive imo Fixed
10. 00:28:367 (5,2) - stack Stacked
11. 00:28:539 (6,1,2) - move 2 out a bit more, so it looks like it has same spacing from (6,1) I like it
12. 00:31:110 (8) - should be a bit more to the left Done
13. 00:30:767 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - consider using 9 as a blanket for ur stream http://puu.sh/pEhM7/ca035d8774.png if your not gonna change then also 00:30:767 (4,5) - ds Done
14. 00:34:024 (6,7,1) - do these really need to touch? Yes
15. 00:35:224 (7,8) - direction needs a bit of fixing http://puu.sh/pEhQk/bc2fa474c0.png or http://puu.sh/pEhRb/c9240008c5.png Smth similar
16. 00:43:024 (6,7,8) - think you should keep same ds here
17. note on streams on the previous sections, why can't you just use the same ds? it jumps from 0.25x to 0.3x to 0.5x to 0.9x and i cant figure out why Fixed
18. 00:54:939 (1,2) - blanket instead? Yeah
19. 00:56:310 (1,2) - use the previous sliders and just copy and rotate? seems a bit strange otherwise imo Yea
20. 01:05:910 (1,2) - not symmetrical yo Um what
21. 01:09:339 (3,1) - not particularly a fan of these Fixed
22. 01:21:682 (2,1) - move 2 to center of the slider Good idea
23. 01:36:939 (8) - angle is off Fixed
24. 01:45:339 (9,4,5,6) - may seem like small thing but it looks a lot better if you avoid the overlapping Fixed overlapping
25. 01:46:710 (8,1) - better if u straighten out the slider or move the note out a bit Straightened
    
26. 01:56:310 (8,9,1,2) - i think your patterning here could be better http://puu.sh/pEilr/c8e9599c2a.png this is prob what i would do without impacting the follow up pattern Fixed
27. 01:58:024 (1,2,3,4) - angle is off Fixed
28. 01:59:910 (7,1) - uhh Fixed oups xD
29. 02:16:367 (5,7) - seperate this out Yeap
30. 02:33:596 (8,1) - maybe a bit sharp, mvoe slider a bit more to the left? Fixed
31. 02:35:738 (6,7,8) - for 8 ctrl+g and use the same ds as 6,7 then ctrl+g it back, it looks a lot better that way Yep
32. 02:46:882 (8) - angleee Done
33. 03:12:082 (3,4,5) - a bit excessive imo Fixed
34. 04:06:596 (3,1) - angle Ye
35. 04:12:424 (1) - ^ Fixed
36. 04:14:824 (9) - a bit awkward this slider i think Yea me too
37. 04:20:310 (7,2) - definitely try to blanket this Done
38. 04:23:053 (9) - ctrl+h same spot imo Done
39. 04:23:910 (4,6,7) - have the same distance between each other Done
40. 04:24:767 (1,4) - seperate this out Done
41. 04:28:024 (3,4,5) - better if this is below the slider's y axis otherwise it doesnt flow correctly imo Fixed
42. 04:29:396 (4,5,6,7,8) - use 1 as blanket Done
43. 04:51:167 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - angle Fixed
44. 04:52:539 (3,4) - what happened here...(angle) Fixed xD
45. 04:56:310 (1,2,3,4) - same ds Fixed
46. 04:58:024 (3,4) - angleeee This is ok imo
47. 05:07:967 (4,5) - better if u line the slider up with the follow point Good idea
48. 05:16:882 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - better if you just keep it like curved/spaced like all the other occurences imo I made it this way because the tune is fading out so is the difficulty of the map
49. 05:21:853 (6,7) - angle 05:21:682 (5,7) - just blanket 5 instead maybe Done
    
    
    end thoughts, no major problems i think except that the entire map feels very unpolished. I think if you took the time to make the DSing consistent throughout it will play and look significantly better along with blanketing properly where possible.

Morroni wrote:

M4M
[Sen]Maybe change OD to 8-8.5? Given the AR I believe the current OD is fine

00:16:367 (8) - I think it isn't so easy to read this circle in comparing with others... True but no other way this works

00:32:996 (1) - maybe rotate? http://www.screencapture.ru/file/9BDf331D I like the flow of it:3

00:43:796 (5) - can you place it not so far from slider? With such AR it is better imo

from 00:54:939 (1) to 01:24:767 (4) - can you decrease hitsounds' volume? Aye fixed

03:12:082 (3,4,5) - why not a simple triple? I was confused about one excess hitsound at that moment when I was playing... Did something similar

from 03:16:196 (1) to end of 04:08:996 (3) - can you decrease hitsounds' volume? Yes fixed

04:30:253 (1) - I think it'll be good to increase slider's speed here... I actually think it's a good breather

04:41:224 (1) - make it not so round http://www.screencapture.ru/file/dE7C57aC Fixed

02:53:910 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - expanding spacing from beginning of stream to its end will be perfect here Did smth similar

I like this map and song, good luck to you :3

HydroCannon13 wrote:

hey, here is the mod for your map

[ Sen]

1. check aimod, theres a few slider ends that are not snapped Fixed
2. 00:23:396 (1) - could be moved away from the previous object for more emphasis Done
3. 01:47:053 (1) - same thing here Done
4. 05:15:510 (1) - and here as well Also done
5. 00:57:682 (1) - slider looks a little flat, I would just make it the same curve as the last one Aye
6. 03:31:282 (1) - ^ Yup
7. 01:00:424 (4,5) - why not blanket here like you did at 01:02:824 (2,1) That was somehow moved idk why, fixed
8. 03:34:024 (4,5) - ^ ^
9. 02:30:167 - add something here? mhm not here
10. 05:25:710 - ^ Yea
11. 05:28:453 - ^ Same here
12. 03:12:082 (3,4,5,6,7) - not 100% sure about this, but I don't hear the stream behind this? I only hear notes in the song for (3,5,7). don't think it has to be a stream, 3 circles is better for the music Alright fixed
13. 03:12:767 (1) - also you can start this spinner on 03:12:510, pretty sure its rankable I like to keep it on a white tick
14. 03:17:224 (3) - you can emphasize the strong beat at 03:17:567 by taking the reverse off the slider and putting a circle, so that the player clicks on it Good idea
15. 03:25:624 (1) - the sound you are trying to map with this spinner starts on 03:25:796? or maybe not, idk ill just bring it to your attention Not sure
16. 03:58:367 (1) - remove nc Again random mistake lol
17. 05:05:910 (1) - so close to the previous slider? I would move the stream further away I did that as a breather
18. 05:16:882 (1) - ^ Fixed it
19. 05:35:910 (9,1) - increase spacing between these 2 objects? Done

Ok that's my mod, mostly just spacing issues but other than that really nice map good luck!

Hasheem wrote:

Hi from #modreqs
Nice map! Thanks:D

01:10:710 (2) - move it left (x476 y192 looking better) Random accident lol fixed
01:42:082 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - weird flow after 8, maybe turn the slider? mhm dunno here
01:52:196 (7,8) - move seven on (x480,y216) Done
02:11:053 (7,8,9,10) - too much spacing for me, suggest u to move it closer to 02:11:053 (7) Alright moved it closer
02:21:339 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - entire stream with changing spacing maybe simple ctrl+shift+f stream? It's half specific DS and other half other specific DS and I kinda like it
02:32:310 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this stream looks much better! but make it 02:32:910 (8,1) closer, hard to predict spacing changing here I believe music and NC indicates that
03:17:224 (3,4) - Idk what you mean by that
03:29:910 (1,2) - move it right what? Which one?
03:44:310 (2) - ^ Youre not exactly explaining where and for what reason so I dont understand :s
03:42:596 (2) - left ^
04:45:339 - end kiai here, like previous one But chorus is longer in the other half ;w;
The second part of map is nearly perfect! Well done!
Good luck