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Paramore - Misery Business

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Nharox
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Donnerstag, 29. Januar 2009 at 21:33:00

Artist: Paramore
Title: Misery Business
BPM: 173
Filesize: 8183kb
Play Time: 03:27
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (4,78 stars, 394 notes)
  2. Mogsworth's Insane (4,89 stars, 476 notes)
  3. Normal (3,67 stars, 242 notes)
Download: Paramore - Misery Business
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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(Thanks to DawnII and awp for the timing)


Please try it. :)

...

A shit load of updates.
DawnII
Well I'm not so mighty but I like to pretend!

Here's what I have for timing:
278 - 170.11 BPM
14,306 - 173.02
124,923 - 172.98 (I know you were going for soft sample with this one, but I wasn't paying attention and am not sure this offset will work for you. However, it does put the drum beats on the downs rather than the ups)
134,978 - 172.98 (Again, same as above)
Topic Starter
Nharox
Nvm, problem solved~ :P
awp
Section 1:
BPM: 171.00
Offset: 330
Section 2:
BPM: 173.00
Offset: 14,292
Section 3:
BPM: 173.00
Offset: 125,281
Section 4:
BPM: 173.00
Offset: 135,335

Have fun
Rolled
make awp fixes. NAO. So I can nitpick this shit and get it ranked.

I LOVE this song. (+5 gay points)
Topic Starter
Nharox

Rolled wrote:

make awp fixes.
Huh? I used his timing suggestions.

Anyway, I updated the beatmap and I'm working on Normal and Hard. :)
Topic Starter
Nharox
Updated. D:

Normal and Hard done. :P
Topic Starter
Nharox
*bump*

Rolled, where are you? D:
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Nharox
Here we go again. >_>
Topic Starter
Nharox
*sigh*

Umm, anyone?
Rolled
SHIT. HI PARAMORE
/me mods.

edit: Okay, I have somewhat of a strong statement. I think you should just ditch the beginning part entirely. Your version is timed wrong atm, and I can't really figure it out. Alls I know is I get all 100s every time on that section. Around 15 seconds into the song is where its at, anyway :D

So imo, just ditch that beginning part. It will make this whole process a lot easier :x Cut down the playtime a bit too which is good.

Now..

Insane:
00:14:72 (3,4,5) - Not snapped right. highlight all 3 and press K
00:30:41 (7,8) - Be careful with stuff like this. This one isn't so bad, but there are other things later in the map that get a bit confusing. Overlapping stuff as a whole is pretty much a no-go
00:36:14 (2) - Ditch this and just extend the slider a quarter of a beat.
00:37:35 (2) - Nudge back a 1/4th so it is more on vocal
00:40:13 (5) - Same ^, Adjust spacing accordingly
00:47:49 (1) - End this at 49:66
01:01:28 (6) - This slider sounds like it ends awkwardly to me. Perhaps end it at 1:01:80?
01:09:60 (9) - 1/4th longer, so the slider ends on the whole beat.
01:14:98 (3) - Either end this on the full behind it, or the half in front of it. Just not the quarter in the middle.
01:15:67 (4) - end at 1:16:37?
01:16:63 (1,1,1,1) - mmmm, nudge all these to the right one? (using 1/4th) They're a bit off atm
01:25:12 (6) - Nudge one to the right (1/4)
01:26:77 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Confusing bit here. Its nearly impossible to know if the sliders repeat or not unless expected.
01:46:89 (1,2,3,4,5) - Same
02:02:32 (4) - end on the full?
02:10:65 (3) - end @ 2:11:35
02:11:69 (4) - Start at 2:11:61, and end at either full beat next to the half beat its currently on (left or right)
02:22:27 (1) - Sounds better ending at 2:25:91
03:01:11 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - woahconfusing
03:14:46 (9) - end on the full
03:17:06 (5) - end on the half, 1 nudge before it currently does
03:25:39 (3,4) - overlap is ew.
03:27:12 (1,1,1,1) - oh cool I found out how to map this (do the same for the other) Change your snap divisor to 1/3 and just line them up appropriately. Works nice


Hmm, that was kind of a lot. Hope it doesn't discourage you, I just found a lot of things off vocal when it sounds like you were mapping to the vocals for the most part. This is just insane for now.. that took me like 30 minutes so going to take a quick breather :P
Topic Starter
Nharox
Thank you for the help. I updated Insane. ;)
Topic Starter
Nharox
I updated Normal and Hard. There were some of the same mistakes which Rolled mentioned. ;)
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Nharox
Woah, already on page 3. :o

Please try it. :)
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Nharox
*pumb*
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Nharox
Oh c'mon. :[ Noone?
Topic Starter
Nharox
Hello?
CheeseWarlock
Normal:
00:14:81 (3) - Move forward 1/4, to a red tick.
00:44:55 (6) - Shorten by 1/4 and move forward by 1/4.
00:45:07 (7) - Shorten by 1/4.
00:47:49 (1) - Move this off the blue ticks.
01:17:23 (1) - Snap this to start on the red tick, and shorten it to 1/2.
02:11:61 (4) - I know she starts singing on the blue tick, but move this slider to the white. And make it end on a white too.
03:27:64 (1) - Snap this to start on the red tick, and shorten it to 1/2.

Hard:
00:14:81 (3) - Move 3 and 4 forward 1/4.
00:34:06 (1) - Move to start and end on white.
00:44:55 (7) - Shorten by 1/4 and move forward by 1/4.
00:47:49 (1) - Start and end on white.
01:01:28 (5) - Move ending forward by 1/4.
01:16:97 (1,1) - Snap to blue and red, respectively, and then change the spacing.
01:25:38 (5) - Spacing.
01:29:03 (7) - Move forward by 1/4 and respace.
02:11:61 (4) - See note for same time in Normal.
02:26:34 (1) - Snap to white ticks, or at least red.
03:27:35 (1,1) - Snap to blue and red, respectively, and then change the spacing.

Insane:
00:44:55 (8) - Move forward by 1/4 and shorten by 1/4.
00:47:49 (1) - Snap to white ticks.
01:16:97 (1,1) - Snap to blue and red, respectively, and then get rid of the overlap.
01:28:94 (6) - Move forward by 1/4 and respace.
01:38:22 (2) - Lengthen by 1/4 to match the other slider.
01:40:21 (1) - Move back 1/4.
02:10:65 (3) - Spacing.
02:11:61 (4) - See note for same time in Normal.
02:26:34 (1) - Make this start and end on white ticks.
03:27:35 (1,1) - See note for same time in Hard.
Mogsy
I haven't taken a look at much yet, so I can't make a mod post quite yet. But I can see this mapped a different way. Mind if I make my own difficulty? :3 This song is surprisingly fun to map.
Topic Starter
Nharox

CheeseWarlock wrote:

[...]
Hehe, finally had the time to update the beatmap. Thanks for your help. :)
Mogsy
Insane:
I see nothing that needs changing, really. The patterns are tricky, but this is still very fun. The only thing that sorta trips me up is how sudden the last 4 notes are after the final slider. But I guess that's probably me being bad. x3
(Also, I still can see another Insane difficulty mapped another way, hope you don't mind me making one? x3)

Hard:
I see no real problems. Same thing with the slider as before, but otherwise, this is fine.

Normal:
Holy crap, the first Normal difficulty map I've had fun playing in awhile. All I have to say about this one.

Bubbled.
Topic Starter
Nharox

Mogsworth wrote:

(Also, I still can see another Insane difficulty mapped another way, hope you don't mind me making one? x3)
Sure, you can try. A mix between Insane and Hard would be awesome. :)
Mogsy

Nharox wrote:

Mogsworth wrote:

(Also, I still can see another Insane difficulty mapped another way, hope you don't mind me making one? x3)
Sure, you can try. A mix between Insane and Hard would be awesome. :)
To be quite honest, it's kind of...hard. When I say that, I mean "I HOPE YOU LIKE ETNA SLIDERS!"

Will edit this with the difficulty once I finish.
Topic Starter
Nharox
So have you finished your difficulty?
Mogsy
Yes.

Be warned, it's not that easy. At all. Hence the Insane. Also, I like sliders. I sure hope you do, too. :3

Download: Paramore - Misery Business (Nharox) [Mogsworth's Insane].osu
Dakeyrus
I will rank this for you, if it's done. Did you want to add Mogsworth's difficulty?
Topic Starter
Nharox
Ok, added. I tried it and - hnnggg.

It IS Insane but no fun at all imo. :o You should make the gaps smaller. x_x

Edit: I forgot to say that it's realy nice mapped but the gaps. >_> These jumps are just horrible. :X
Dakeyrus
Ok for me to rank it now?
Mogsy
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

Download: Paramore - Misery Business (Nharox) [Mogsworth's Insane].osu
Topic Starter
Nharox
Ok, I added the new version. It's better now. :)

(Haha, agony-like :P )
Topic Starter
Nharox
Still not ranked? D:
Saturos
First off, this can't be bubbled anymore since Mogs now has a difficulty as a part of this. Good thing I have things I want fixed anyways, though, eh? ;x

Normal:

01:17:23 (1) - Shorten this 1/4.

Hard:

Sliders in this map are just...what the fuck. Way more so than your others.

00:29:20 (2) - You can't tell this is a repeating slider.
01:09:60 (3) - Move the start/end points slightly so you can tell what direction it heads.
01:14:98 (3,4) - Ugly. At the very least, change the 3 to something resembling a slider, rather than hiding it.
01:47:93 (4) - Can't really tell that this is repeating.
03:17:06 (3) - Ugh.
03:25:39 (3,4) - Ugh again. Can't tell what the hell is going on here until it's too late.

Insane:

01:16:63 (1,1,1) - Move these 1/4 forward.
03:17:06 (5) - Ugh.
03:27:03 (1,1,1) - Move these 1/4 forward.

Mog's:

02:23:83 (4) - This is the only slider I really dislike.
03:16:72 (3) - I just didn't like the sound of this. Nothing wrong otherwise.

Back to a star for you.
Topic Starter
Nharox

Saturos wrote:

Hard:

03:17:06 (3) - Ugh.

Insane:

03:17:06 (5) - Ugh.
Oh c'mon, open your eyes while playing the game. There are trickier sliders on other beatmaps. >_>"

Saturos wrote:

Way more so than your others.
Eh? You don't like my beatmaps?
Saturos

Nharox wrote:

Eh? You don't like my beatmaps?
I was referring to the other two of yours in this set. ;x

Also, gimme the names of some other beatmaps with sliders like those. Only one I could think of offhand was Neo@lex's Homette, but I had him change them for the most part.

Really, though, it makes more sense for those long ass, ugly sliders to be turned in to spinners.
Topic Starter
Nharox

Saturos wrote:

Also, gimme the names of some other beatmaps with sliders like those.
Paramore - Misery Business: "Mogsworth's Insane". :P

Anyway, I changed the slider on Hard. I want to stay with it on Insane because it's ... insane? ;_;
Rolled
I am offended that there is no orange combo color. Haley's hair IS paramore.
Topic Starter
Nharox

Rolled wrote:

I am offended that there is no orange combo color. Haley's hair IS paramore.
Oh u.
Topic Starter
Nharox
Oh my god, not this shit again.
Topic Starter
Nharox
I really need something new to say when I have to bump my threads all the time. :o
Topic Starter
Nharox
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
MaxwellDemon
Fix the BPM up, so it features the full rounded BPM~

Aside from that...

Hard

Maybe consider reducing circle size here? Because the screen looks very cluttered and confusing with those huge notes

00:26:95 (6,7,8,9) - Overlapping sliders. :(
03:01:98 (2,3,4,5) - Here again~

Insane
01:15:67 (4) - This is one confusing slider... but then, it is not the first one, so nevermind that. XD
03:17:06 (5) - Okay, this one is REAAAAAALLY confusing.

Anyway... I am afraid I can't bubble this~
Good map for a good song though!
Topic Starter
Nharox
Wow, this one is already 2 months up. :X
MaxwellDemon
Insane
03:17:06 (5) - Still doesn't know where this is starting and which direction to go. :(
Topic Starter
Nharox

MaxwellDemon wrote:

Insane
03:17:06 (5) - Still doesn't know where this is starting and which direction to go. :(


And why is this slider in a ranked beatmap? I had the same problem, I didn't know which direction to go.

But if you look closely enough you know what to do. :P
MaxwellDemon
Well, depends on how old that map is... our guidelines weren't as harsh as now.

And I know I never rank a map like that, some BATs might have a slightly different guideline... but peppy disagrees with sliders like these. So, I am just following what the boss said~
Topic Starter
Nharox
asdhflasdjf#

I changed it, don't want to discuss. ¬_¬
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Nharox
*poke*
Topic Starter
Nharox
Om nom nom.
Cyclone
I don't like the blackish combo color. Hard to see.

Normal:

00:37:44 (2) - Start on the red tick. Extend slider to make up for this change.
00:40:21 (2) - Left 1/4 beat on timeline
01:14:98 (3) - Up to you, but this feels better shortened by 1/4 beat.
01:24:69 (4) - Assuming you are following the vocals here, shorten by 1 repeat.
01:52:61 (1) - I personally think this feel better shortened by 1/2 beat, and moved Right 1/2 beat on timeline. However, this is fine as is if you don't want to change it.
02:10:65 (3,4) - If the 4 is going to start on a blue tick, so should the 3 i think. In Hard you have the 4 on the white tick. Check this and decide which way you want it.

Hard:

Circles are approaching WAY too slowly. Increase overall by 2-3 notches

00:37:44 (2) - Start on the red tick. Extend slider to make up for this change.
01:16:63 (1,1,1) - Move right 1/4 beat on the timeline. The forth 1 does not move.
01:21:92 (3,4) - This is only a suggestion, you don't have to do this.. Remove the 4 and have the 3 have 2 more repeat arrows.
01:54:00 (6) - Extend the slider by 1/2 beat.
03:25:39 (3,4) - Shorten both by 1/4 beat
03:27:12 (1,1,1) - Move right 1/4 beat on the timeline. The forth 1 does not move.

Insane:

01:54:00 (8) - i personally think this feels better extended by 1/2 beat.
03:17:06 (5) - I'd say change this.
03:25:39 (3,4) - Shorten both by 1/4 beat

Mogs:

02:25:56 (3) - extend by 1/4 beat
Saturos
Modded because I'd feel guilty if I didn't when posting an .osr.

Normal is fine now, imo. Insane, too, though I still hate the two overlapping sliders in the outro, as well as 03:17:06 (5).

Hard: Delete this map. Please? It's just so bad, really. The amount of work to make this rankable far exceeds the fact that it's a moot difficulty, anyway. Your Normal and Insane are enough, Hard didn't fill the space very well.

Now then, Mog's map. It's still awesome, and I will continue to replay it until I get a real S. However, attached is a fake S run including 2 slider breaks for fun. Oh well.

Download: Saturos - Paramore - Misery Business [Mogsworth's Insane] (20081008015940).osr
minyeob
This beatmap's timing is good But little confusing.
especially
Mogsworth's Insane.

Hard- Last four beats are confusing. Because last two beats are spaced at same location.
Topic Starter
Nharox
Oh boy, this beatmap sure has a lots of mistakes. I should take my time when doing a beatmap. >_>

Anyway, I finally updated the beatmap.
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Nharox
*bump*
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Nharox
^
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Nharox
v
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Nharox
*bump*
Zerostarry
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Topic Starter
Nharox
I know that, I already stopped to bump my threads with posts.

Anyway, thanks for the useless post.
James
hope this wont reach 8 pages..

timing... OK!

all diffs: change that black combocolor to something else.

mog insane:
nothing wrong i just dont like it. good map otherwise.

insane:
00:32:32 (5) - change the position of the slider, im just making sure no unranking will happen. better safe than sad
01:06:48 (10,11) - this two too
01:14:98 (3,4) - change the slider, not approved by me
03:17:06 (5) - not sure what to do with this one, since you made this slider for 3 hours i guess. maybe i just let it slip through..
03:25:39 (3,4) - change this definitely
good map..

hard:
01:09:60 (3) - make the start and end MORE visible
01:14:98 (3,4) - change the slider
01:47:93 (4) - change
03:06:31 (2) - change
03:25:39 (3,4) - change
p.s. if youre going to make a dumbed down version with little changes, just remove the difficulty. it wastes irl time... :(


normal:
ew tons of repeating sliders, also this difficulty is not newbie friendly.. definitely
01:15:67 (4) - change
Topic Starter
Nharox

James wrote:

hope this wont reach 8 pages..
I'm sorry that I made so many mistakes in this beatmap. :\ My new ones definitely are better.

Thanks for the help.
James
insane:
01:15:67 (4) - stop copying burai with his nasty sliders XD
03:25:39 (3) - "
***what i mean change is change the shape of the sliders~~~

almost there!
Topic Starter
Nharox
Am I allowed to do anything?

Gnah, I changed it because I finally want to get this horrible beatmap ranked. :\
James
youre not
Saturos
I have no idea what you have against spinners, but every slider >1 second long fit much better into the map as spinners.

You can have your star back.
James
( peppy ) yuck
( Ivalsetto ) gross bro

@ the long white slider in insane (03:17:06 (5))
so it means you have to change all sliders like this in all difficulties into another one, maybe a spinner?

and follow the advice saturos gave. i think its better too..

oh yeah, inherit sliders + resnap everything + double check~
Topic Starter
Nharox
Yeah, whatever, changed.
CheeseWarlock
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Topic Starter
Nharox
-__- Stop taking a look at this horrible beatmap and reply to one of my better and new ones.

I will change it as soon as I will stop raging.
Mogsy
I'll fix it for you, see if it's up to your liking once I do so, Nharox.
Download: Paramore - Misery Business (Nharox) [Mogsworth's Insane].osu
Here's my difficulty, with hitsounds altered. Your difficulties are up next.
Download: Paramore - Misery Business (Nharox) [Normal].osu
Here's Normal. Not too much to change.

Mods, pl9x, once these difficulties are readded. >:

Topic Starter
Nharox
Updated~
Dakeyrus
Modding modding modding

Mog's Insane:

01:51:228 - (6) - This slider overlaps, and even with snaking sliders on it's hard to see which way it's going when it starts. Unrankable as is, sorry mogs!

Nharox's Hard:

01:46:893 - (1,2,3,4,5) - The placement of this combo needs to change, the spacing gets inconsistent to the point where it becomes very difficult to follow properly. Just spread it out a bit more.

Normal is fine.


Fix those, and I will bubble this for you.
Mogsy
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

Download: Paramore - Misery Business (Nharox) [Mogsworth's Insane].osu
Topic Starter
Nharox
K, updated~
Dakeyrus
Perfect guys, I'm happy with it as of those changes. Bubbled, let's hope for the best :)
Rolled
I have to pop the bubble for now because Mogs's difficulty has 0 stack leniancy. This is unrankable.

Other than that, and I apologize I don't mean to be rude, but I really do not like Mogs's difficulty at all. This is probably one of my favorite songs but I can't rank something that I can't even stomache long enough to finish the beatmap.

After the stack leniancy is fixed though anybody has my permission to rebubble (dake, mogs.) If I'm around just let me know and I will rebubble it. Not popping this just because nothing is really wrong other than stacking, but I just am not feeling the sliders at all.
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