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Sakura
Oh yeah, same thing as a supersaint.

Sooo anyone in favor of lynching Jess and having Skull or Frosty deal the hammer blow?
MBomb

Sakura wrote:

Oh yeah, same thing as a supersaint.

Sooo anyone in favor of lynching Jess and having Skull or Frosty deal the hammer blow?
No, Jess isn't supersaint.

Universal backup only works for the first town PR to die.
Sakura
Oh ok
Vote: Skull
Would also go for Frosty/Dake
Sakura
I want GIF to get back to this because uhh...

GuyInFreezer wrote:

posting again because random pagetop

This is just a reference post.

This is the list based on claims which alignment a certain player can be.

- Magic Bomb - discarded Mafia Traitor Cop for a VT. [Town/Mafia/Alien/3p/Goo]
Ace Timing discarded Mafia Goon for a Alien Avenger. [Town]
GuyInFreezer discarded Baby Alien Monarch for Town Clairvoyant.[Town/Mafia]
Sakura discarded Vanilla Townie for Tracker.[Town/Mafia]
-[Jess]- discarded Alien One-Shot Psychomagnet for 1-shot Uni Backup.[Town]
DakeDekaane discarded Mafia Goon for VT. [Town/Mafia/Alien/3p/Goo]
pieguyn discarded Mason Compulsive Bodyguard for Jailkeeper. [Town. Mafia gets no roleblock.]
Navizel discarded Lynchbait for SMELL something. [Town]
metal sonic1 discarded Town Coroner for a mason. [Town]
Drezi discarded Town Coroner for 1-shot commuter. [Town]
Frostings discarded Town Clairvoyant for VT. [Town/Mafia/Alien/3P/Goo]
Skullmaster4 discarded Town Cop for 1-shot dayvig. [Town/Mafia]

Let's discard all Town or Town/Mafia choices.

Frostings discarded Town Clairvoyant for VT. [Town/Mafia/Alien/3P/Goo]
DakeDekaane discarded Mafia Goon for VT. [Town/Mafia/Alien/3p/Goo]
- Magic Bomb - discarded Mafia Traitor Cop for a VT. [Town/Mafia/Alien/3p/Goo]

Provable roles that can be mafia.

GuyInFreezer discarded Baby Alien Monarch for Town Clairvoyant.[Town/Mafia]
Sakura discarded Vanilla Townie for Tracker.[Town/Mafia
Skullmaster4 discarded Town Cop for 1-shot dayvig. [Town/Mafia]

Town and can be proven
Ace Timing discarded Mafia Goon for a Alien Avenger. [Town]
-[Jess]- discarded Alien One-Shot Psychomagnet for 1-shot Uni Backup.[Town]
pieguyn discarded Mason Compulsive Bodyguard for Jailkeeper. [Town]
Drezi discarded Town Coroner for 1-shot commuter. [Town]

Town and can not be proven
metal sonic1 discarded Town Coroner for a mason. [Town]
Navizel discarded Lynchbait for SMELL something. [Town]
There's some errors in this ^_^;;
Frostings
Lol what is even happening this game
Sakura
Also didnt someone say that aliens also had something similar to a day vig? Doubt Skull would dayvig his own partner specially with 2 other anti town factions to deal with, but goddamit, why cant roles just have the same name, is that so hard.
Frostings
If we lynch skull, then Jess becomes a dayvig? (assuming skull is town)
MBomb

Frostings wrote:

If we lynch skull, then Jess becomes a dayvig? (assuming skull is town)
yes and oh god don't make me so heavily against a skull lynch
Sakura
yeah but a backup only copies PRs no?
Sakura
Which means a frosty/dake lynch still has that backup laying out there.
Sakura
Actually we wouldn't need to worry about it too much in the case that Skull is town.
For one he's very likely to be mafia right now because of his shot.
For two, Jess role is only possible if she's town and that role is Easily provable. Which would give us control of a 2nd day kill in that case.
MBomb

Sakura wrote:

Actually we wouldn't need to worry about it too much in the case that Skull is town.
For one he's very likely to be mafia right now because of his shot.
For two, Jess role is only possible if she's town and that role is Easily provable. Which would give us control of a 2nd day kill in that case.
True, didn't think about the provable part.
DakeDekaane

Sakura wrote:

DakeDekaane wrote:

lmao
Is that all you're gonna say.
That was my first reaction as it came out of the blue. I wouldn't like to hurry up conclusions tho, but if Skullmaster is mafia, it's likely Frostings/MB are his partner given they were the ones selected to hammer Ace. Leaning more on the former atm.

It's hard for me to believe it was a lolshoot.
Topic Starter
Zexion
Is everyone pretending that shooting wasn't anything strange!?

Votecount 1.11
Skullmaster4 [1] - Sakura
- Magic Bomb - [0] -
Drezi [0] -
Frostings [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
Ace Timing [0] -
pieguyn [0] -
Navizel [0] -
metal sonic1 [0] -
DakeDekaane [0] -
Sakura [0] -
GuyInFreezer [0] -


No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [10] - Skullmaster4, pieguyn, GuyInFreezer, Navizel, DakeDekaane, metal sonic1, Drezi, -[Jess]-, -Magic Bomb , Frostings-
With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch.

Please tell me if there are any mistakes.
GuyInFreezer is V/LA until December 19th.

pieguyn has failed to pick up his prod and will be replaced.
metal sonic1 has been prodded.
Deadline for D1 is on December 24th, 9:40PM UTC.
MBomb
I still want to hear other people's opinions on skullmaster suddenly shooting like that.
MBomb
Oh also keep in mind there's 4 factions, that confirms one of them was alien (he may have been the only alien, who knows).
That means if there is a mafia (most likely the last faction) it confirms the lack of psuedojester or lyncher or anything else.
Navizel
Wait where did the alien came from
Navizel
oh wait so there's two supersaint in the setup list, one is town and one is alien avenger. Alright got it
Navizel
Ace can't get his supersaint when killed right?
metal sonic1
got prodded l0l
metal sonic1
vote:skull

gtfoh
Skullmaster4
Eh, I was just impatient. I understand that I should of followed orders, but I had a feeling he was evil. Luckily I was right or I would be up for lynch even more then I am now.
Think about it this way, if I was scum I would try following orders that are wrong, and will lead to a miskill. That way, I would still be suspicious but not without a reasoning. "I followed orders from the town, they where wrong, but I did follow the town."
*Though I think a few people did ask for a kill on him*
Ok, you can lynch me if you want, I would be fine with that. I still did end up helping the town.
-[Jess]-
thank you for giving your power to me,i will use it well.
vote:Skull
Navizel
Ok I wasn't paying attention hahahaha I'm sorry
just woke up when I posted that
didn't see Skull already vigged Ace

also

Sakura wrote:

Off-Topic: @Navizel: You play 100% Orange Juice? You're using an avatar from there.
I do. I don't use Aru though.
Navizel
but I want to protect her smile
Skullmaster4
Seeing as Ill be lynched soon, some things to say.
I am pretty sure Frosting's is a member of the town. *But hey, feel free to lynch him if I flip mafia.*
I don't really trust Navizel, I was actually thinking of shooting him, but that would of pissed people off even more then shooting Ace Timing.
A good number of people voting me right now are probably mafia. Once I flip town, don't trust any of them. I'm not saying all of them are mafia, that would be stupid. But this feels like a really good chance for the mafia to get out a town. That's why I feel like this wagon may be partially mafia driven.
MBomb

Skullmaster4 wrote:

Seeing as Ill be lynched soon, some things to say.
I am pretty sure Frosting's is a member of the town. *But hey, feel free to lynch him if I flip mafia.*
I don't really trust Navizel, I was actually thinking of shooting him, but that would of pissed people off even more then shooting Ace Timing.
A good number of people voting me right now are probably mafia. Once I flip town, don't trust any of them. I'm not saying all of them are mafia, that would be stupid. But this feels like a really good chance for the mafia to get out a town. That's why I feel like this wagon may be partially mafia driven.
I was thinking Sakura was scum after her immediate scumclaim of you instantly after your vig, but her actions after that seemed very town.
Navizel
By good number of people, you mean two? out of the three people who's currently voting you? You said not all of them are but good number means more than one.
Sakura

Skullmaster4 wrote:

Think about it this way, if I was scum I would try following orders that are wrong, and will lead to a miskill. That way, I would still be suspicious but not without a reasoning. "I followed orders from the town, they where wrong, but I did follow the town."
*Though I think a few people did ask for a kill on him*
Ok, you can lynch me if you want, I would be fine with that. I still did end up helping the town.
Because if you were mafia you'd shoot anyone as long as it isn't on your team (for example, aliens)
Navizel

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Skullmaster4 wrote:

Seeing as Ill be lynched soon, some things to say.
I am pretty sure Frosting's is a member of the town. *But hey, feel free to lynch him if I flip mafia.*
I don't really trust Navizel, I was actually thinking of shooting him, but that would of pissed people off even more then shooting Ace Timing.
A good number of people voting me right now are probably mafia. Once I flip town, don't trust any of them. I'm not saying all of them are mafia, that would be stupid. But this feels like a really good chance for the mafia to get out a town. That's why I feel like this wagon may be partially mafia driven.
I was thinking Sakura was scum after her immediate scumclaim of you instantly after your vig, but her actions after that seemed very town.
Skull's sudden dayvig looked scummy tho. Sakura's initial reaction is understandable.
Sakura
That were should read are.

I shouldn't probably post when i just woke up.
Navizel
Also what good would be there in lynching me? I don't think Jess' role would be proven by lynching me. Jess gets my Excellent of Sense of Smell ability which is pointless since I already mentioned the result. If the univ backup is a fakeclaim then Jess could just say the results again and that's it, we learned nothing.
Skullmaster4
Hmm.
I don't think Sakura is mafia either. I should say that.

-[Jess]- wrote:

thank you for giving your power to me,i will use it well.
Uh.. Did I miss something?
Elaborate on this please.
*I'm probably just being stupid*
Skullmaster4

Skullmaster4 wrote:

Hmm.
I don't think Sakura is mafia either. I should say that.

-[Jess]- wrote:

thank you for giving your power to me,i will use it well.
Uh.. Did I miss something?
Elaborate on this please.
*I'm probably just being stupid*
Wait, just looked at the Uni Backup role.
So does that mean if I'm lynched Jess will become a Town 1-Shot Day Vigilante?
Er... That's not good.
Jess will probably be NK'd if that's the case. The mafia wouldn't want a day vigilante to survive to D2.
Sorry if I read any of this wrong. lol.
Skullmaster4

Skullmaster4 wrote:

A good number of people voting me right now are probably mafia. Once I flip town, don't trust any of them. I'm not saying all of them are mafia, that would be stupid. But this feels like a really good chance for the mafia to get out a town. That's why I feel like this wagon may be partially mafia driven.
I take this back, looking back at the people who voted me I don't think any of them seem like scum. Sakura's actions feel very town. Jess is most likely Universal Backup, and Metal Sonic.... is being Metal Sonic.
Sakura
If scum NKs Jess, they'd be doing us a big favor there!
-[Jess]-
Yea,scum nk me will be a bad idea.
-[Jess]-
They can't get a chance to lower the people if I die
Drezi
@mod: Universal Backup (acquires >>current<< abilities of first killed town player) - does this mean that unibackup would become a dayvig with no shots left or would it get the role normally?

Probably doesn't matter cause I don't see Skull flipping town, but it'd suck if he did and Jess couldn't be sorted either without the shot. Her being NKd for it would be godsent really.
Topic Starter
Zexion

Drezi wrote:

@mod: Universal Backup (acquires >>current<< abilities of first killed town player) - does this mean that unibackup would become a dayvig with no shots left or would it get the role normally?
If I get what you're saying, in the case an Universal Backup would get the powers of a Town 1-Shot Dayvig that already used his/her shot, it's the equivalent of getting a gun with no bullets left. So it would be the first one.
Sakura
Hmm, that's interesting.
Sakura
Unvote
I'm going to wait for GIF to come back and weigh in on this.
Frostings
Requesting V/LA for 48 hours
Skullmaster4
Proddodge.
I feel like a lot of people are going to get prodded if we don't start a conversation soon.
Anybody uh.. Want to accuse me of something?
MBomb
Apparently people see "waiting for GIF" as "we can't talk until GIF gets here".
There must be something else to talk about before he's here.
GuyInFreezer
Two things to say.

1. Sakura, I did say I overlooked the chance of ace being alien avenger somewhere after I posted the list.

2. Skull is town, by the by.

With that said, I'm visiting Korea for few days so I dunno if I should replace out.
-[Jess]-
Sign,I can't use it.

unvote
metal sonic1
Jess is town

I like Jess

Jess is my friend's name
metal sonic1

Sakura wrote:

Hmm, that's interesting.
metal sonic1
That sucks a lot. Boo.

Also quote failed
Navizel
ehe
MBomb

Navizel wrote:

ehe
...erm?
Skullmaster4
"The town seems to have become frozen. Every once in a while somebody mutters something under their breath, but they have just been standing completely still for an hour now. Odd."
Topic Starter
Zexion
"The town seems to have become frozen. Every once in a while somebody mutters something under their breath, but they have just been standing completely still for an hour now. Odd."

Votecount 1.12
Skullmaster4 [1] - metal sonic1
- Magic Bomb - [0] -
Drezi [0] -
Frostings [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
pieguyn [0] -
Navizel [0] -
metal sonic1 [0] -
DakeDekaane [0] -
Sakura [0] -
GuyInFreezer [0] -


No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [10] - Skullmaster4, pieguyn, GuyInFreezer, Navizel, DakeDekaane, Drezi, , -Magic Bomb , Sakura, Frostings , -[Jess]-
With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch.

Please tell me if there are any mistakes.
GuyInFreezer V/LA is over.
Frostings is V/LA until December 22th.

Looking for a replacement for pieguyn.
Drezi and DakeDekaane have been prodded.
Deadline for D1 is on December 24th, 9:40PM UTC.
metal sonic1
Nothing to add
MBomb
...we have 3 days until deadline please stop letting the game die. So guys, what lynch are we going for, seeing as the chance of skullmaster4 being lynched went down after learning that his shot wouldn't come back.
Drezi
it's between Frostings/Dake, there isn't really a reason to risk skull now (I still don't get gif's townread there btw).

Vote: Dake
metal sonic1
never mind let kill drezi


vote: drezi
Sakura
i will trust GIF's read on skull
Vote: Frosty
MBomb
Ugh it's annoying because I'm townreading both. Based on actions I'd say Frostings is probably a stronger townread but in terms of discards Dake makes a lot more sense.
-[Jess]-
i can't choose who to be lynched cas it will effect my role
Navizel

-[Jess]- wrote:

i can't choose who to be lynched cas it will effect my role
err? Sounds like you know something.
DakeDekaane
Vote: Drezi

-[Jess]- wrote:

thank you for giving your power to me,i will use it well.
vote:Skull
For some reason I find this cute yet it sounds like Jess knows Skullmaster is town, idk tbh. Also, Jess, you can choose who to be lynched, just vote whoever you think is scum.
Skullmaster4
Proddodge.
I really have no heavy scum leans, atm I don't feel in a position to vote. I might look back at this thread tonight when I have time.
Topic Starter
Zexion
Hika replaces pieguyn effective immediately
Navizel
oh nice
Hika
too bad I'm not posting until tomorrow evening because in laws ugh
Topic Starter
Zexion
Deadline has been extended for 24 hours.
Sakura
So guys, deadline is starting to run out, we have just about 3 days or so.
-[Jess]-

Navizel wrote:

-[Jess]- wrote:

i can't choose who to be lynched cas it will effect my role
err? Sounds like you know something.
no,just my gut feeling.

sign,then
vote:drezi
Skullmaster4
Welcome to this game Hika
metal sonic1
i feel very strongly that drezi is scum

pls vote with me thanks
metal sonic1
this message was specifically targeted towards sakura

but also applies to the rest of you
Sakura
Vote: Drezi
Drezi
what the hell are you even doing? if you think I'm scum you can make me use my commute, track/target me with whatever MB might have N1 and confirm me when you get No Result LOL.

also I'd be nice if metalsonic actually elaborated on his read for once, because all I've seen so far is "shoot drez thx" "lynch drezi thx I think he's scum" like seriously?

DakeDekaane wrote:

Vote: Drezi

-[Jess]- wrote:

thank you for giving your power to me,i will use it well.
vote:Skull
For some reason I find this cute yet it sounds like Jess knows Skullmaster is town, idk tbh. Also, Jess, you can choose who to be lynched, just vote whoever you think is scum.
"there there Jess that's cute, come vote the big bad Drezi with me who's being mean to you :<"

jeez just lynch Dake already.. I addressed everything in his nonsense post against me, and after not having anything left to say, revotes me long after the votes have been reset, only after metalsonic started it.. shows how genuine of a read it is, right.
Hika
Don't you all dare get close to hammering or I'll touch your butts.
DakeDekaane

Drezi wrote:

what the hell are you even doing? if you think I'm scum you can make me use my commute, track/target me with whatever MB might have N1 and confirm me when you get No Result LOL.
This will not confirm your role, you know? ;)
DakeDekaane
Nor alignment.
Frostings
finally done examssss

reading now and posting when I get home
Drezi
RIGHT MY BAD, there might be an alien psychotrooper, in which case you'd get no result no matter who you target, and everyone would get no result, every day....

How about you tell me more about your actual scumread on me instead, I'm all ears :)
MBomb
Really not understanding the scumreads on Drezi. The way he acted towards Jess seemed town to me, similar to how he acted in other games as town with Jess (He even linked them ffs).
Topic Starter
Zexion
"Did someone just disappear, and someone completely different appeared in his place?"

Votecount 1.13
Drezi [4] - metal sonic1, DakeDekaane, Sakura, -[Jess]-
DakeDekaane [1] - Drezi
Skullmaster4 [0] -
- Magic Bomb - [0] -
Frostings [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
Hika [0] -
Navizel [0] -
metal sonic1 [0] -
Sakura [0] -
GuyInFreezer [0] -

No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [6] - Skullmaster4, Hika, GuyInFreezer, Navizel, -Magic Bomb- , Frostings ,
With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch.

Please tell me if there are any mistakes.
Frostings' V/LA is over.
Deadline for D1 is on December 24th, 9:40PM UTC.
Skullmaster4
Nobody vote Drezi. If someone does, someone else will have the power to hammer.
I don't really even agree to the Drezi lynch very much. I don't think there has been enough evidence against Drezi.
MBomb
Wait Drezi what is your role anyway. Can't remember what you claimed.
Navizel
he's a 1-shot commuter
metal sonic1
screw evidence

lynch drezi

probably mafia
metal sonic1

Skullmaster4 wrote:

Nobody vote Drezi. If someone does, someone else will have the power to hammer.
I don't really even agree to the Drezi lynch very much. I don't think there has been enough evidence against Drezi.

Please explain why we should be scared of a hammer?
Frostings
what happened to the skull scumreads lol
the wagons seem town, but they jump so quickly

I'm kinda townreading a lot of people this game, and I can't really find many scummy players x_x

Here's my list

Town
gif Sakura Jess MB

null town
Ms1 Sm4

I'm not sure what to think of Drezi, VCA might be good if he flips town. If he doesn't, well, that's good I guess :) (though I guess mafia/third faction could be in the votecount if Drezi flips non-town)

Also I'm kinda curious on ms1 if he plays like this every game (kinda like gif but more impatient?)
Sakura

Frostings wrote:

Also I'm kinda curious on ms1 if he plays like this every game (kinda like gif but more impatient?)
Yes.
Tho don't worry this is most likely town MS (despite i've only seen scum MS one but his play's pretty different)
metal sonic1

Frostings wrote:

what happened to the skull scumreads lol
the wagons seem town, but they jump so quickly

I'm kinda townreading a lot of people this game, and I can't really find many scummy players x_x

Here's my list

Town
gif Sakura Jess MB

null town
Ms1 Sm4

I'm not sure what to think of Drezi, VCA might be good if he flips town. If he doesn't, well, that's good I guess :) (though I guess mafia/third faction could be in the votecount if Drezi flips non-town)

Also I'm kinda curious on ms1 if he plays like this every game (kinda like gif but more impatient?)
It looks like you are not townreading drezi

Pls vote approrpiately. Thanks.

Skull scumreads still exist
Drezi
Yeah, way to go, we got:
- metalsonic strutting around repeatedly asking people to vote me with still no reasoning at all whatsoever.
- Dake voting me back without being able to write a single line why he thinks I'm scum anymore.
- Jess voting me because she hates me and was nicely asked to, genius..........
- and Sakura voting me because fuck all, even though she's always so big on "forming reads with interactions" yet the only times we've interacted is when _I_ questioned her and that's it. It's rather weird she'd do this, last time I've seen her so lazily just swich her vote to me without having anything to say was when she was scum and went like "lol well, if these guys will lynch him, might aswell just let them".

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

The way he acted towards Jess seemed town to me, similar to how he acted in other games as town with Jess (He even linked them ffs).
This is a common mistake, and doesn't prove I'm town btw, someone behaving the usual way is DEAD NULL, but metalsonic seems to be completely oblivious to the fact that I routinely take Jess for a fool and sometimes get useful info out of it, and seems to have based his idiotic read on this, despite clearly not knowing shit here.
I don't even think he's scum, just stupid and arrogant which is not a good combination.... but he keeps repeating his shit adamantly (do I have the curse of Setsuen on me or what, Tess last game, now this...) and here looks like that's all it takes to get me mislynched, in this huge lack of interest for the game. I seriously regret signing up, Jess being present should have been warning enough though...
-[Jess]-
lolz
i vote you because i want to have your power.not hating.

Drezi wrote:

This is a common mistake, and doesn't prove I'm town btw, someone behaving the usual way is DEAD NULL, but metalsonic seems to be completely oblivious to the fact that I routinely take Jess for a fool and sometimes get useful info out of it, and seems to have based his idiotic read on this, despite clearly not knowing shit here.
I don't even think he's scum, just stupid and arrogant which is not a good combination.... but he keeps repeating his shit adamantly (do I have the curse of Setsuen on me or what, Tess last game, now this...) and here looks like that's all it takes to get me mislynched, in this huge lack of interest for the game. I seriously regret signing up, Jess being present should have been warning enough though...
sign,i know you treat me as a fool at all time,but it is not the reason to mislynch you.
Skullmaster4

metal sonic1 wrote:

Skullmaster4 wrote:

Nobody vote Drezi. If someone does, someone else will have the power to hammer.
I don't really even agree to the Drezi lynch very much. I don't think there has been enough evidence against Drezi.

metal sonic1 wrote:

screw evidence

lynch drezi

probably mafia
pls metal
if you weren't one of my biggest townreads you would be my biggest scumread
What? ^^^
Skullmaster4
The above post messed up. A message got cut out and the quotes sort of merged together.
Here is what I meant to respond to with that first quote

metal sonic1 wrote:

Skullmaster4 wrote:

Nobody vote Drezi. If someone does, someone else will have the power to hammer.
I don't really even agree to the Drezi lynch very much. I don't think there has been enough evidence against Drezi.

Please explain why we should be scared of a hammer?
I feel like since we have all day period to lynch, we should spend the whole time trying to gather information. Ending off discussion early wouldn't really be beneficial.
Hika
After what Sakura stated mid game and you all still would rather vote Drezi?
Hika
Sorry, I meant to say GIF. Not Sakura.
metal sonic1

Skullmaster4 wrote:

The above post messed up. A message got cut out and the quotes sort of merged together.
Here is what I meant to respond to with that first quote

me wrote:

Please explain why we should be scared of a hammer?
I feel like since we have all day period to lynch, we should spend the whole time trying to gather information. Ending off discussion early wouldn't really be beneficial.
what kind of discussion or information do you expect to be getting by not hammering?
metal sonic1
have we gained any "information" from the past 7 days of the day period by not hammering? I don't think so. if you disagree, please show otherwise. i would love to hear it.
metal sonic1
in short: hammer away on drezi! drezi is scum~~~
MBomb
metal sonic, can you please roleclaim? You claimed mason, but never said whether that was just mason, or had another role attached.
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