Jess probably isn't mafia, considering she hammered Batu nya. Though I guess it's possible she bussed since Zexion already posted his intention to hammer
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Plus we know that Jess is not scared to bus.
If I ignore your results, I actually think Navizel is the scummiest, and Jess is more town than you.Sakura wrote:
Plus we know that Jess is not scared to bus.
Also if you knew your action on Day1 got cancelled, why not say so?
nya
Technically if you are immune to kills/were protected or i was roleblocked, Navizel is confirmed not mafia.
MB died from a day kill so he's not immune to kills.
MB could've been protected by a doctor but who would do that.
2 possibilities remain.
I was roleblocked Night 1
My role has a bastard modifier that makes it useless.
This is doubly true after i outed some sort of results Day 2, I'd probably wouldn't trust my results, since it already failed once, why are you trusting my results in a bastard game more than your own scumhunting?
MB died from a day kill so he's not immune to kills.
MB could've been protected by a doctor but who would do that.
2 possibilities remain.
I was roleblocked Night 1
My role has a bastard modifier that makes it useless.
This is doubly true after i outed some sort of results Day 2, I'd probably wouldn't trust my results, since it already failed once, why are you trusting my results in a bastard game more than your own scumhunting?
Before I claim I want Navi to answer a question: are you sure you're confirmed town by what Sakura said? Since you know our roles and stuff...
It kinda felt like you were softpushing a wagon against Jess. I was saying based on my judgement, you're more likely to be scum than Jess, and Navizel is the scummiestSakura wrote:
This is doubly true after i outed some sort of results Day 2, I'd probably wouldn't trust my results, since it already failed once, why are you trusting my results in a bastard game more than your own scumhunting?
So yeah, I'm not really trusting your results, and it seemed like you were nya
I don't know anyone's role though? I only got to know Sakura's role because she targeted me.
I was, yesterday, until Batu flipped mafia.
So tell me.
I was hard pushing Batu Day 1.
Why would i do that then and then come with a lie about him not being mafia Day 2.
While you were defending Batu Day 1 as "newbtown".
I was hard pushing Batu Day 1.
Why would i do that then and then come with a lie about him not being mafia Day 2.
While you were defending Batu Day 1 as "newbtown".
Ok that means i wasn't roleblocked last night since roleblocked people don't target anyone.Navizel wrote:
I don't know anyone's role though? I only got to know Sakura's role because she targeted me.
I think it's safe to assume my role has some bastard modifier that makes it useless.
Vote: Frostings
I see. I conmuted last night, so that would not make either you or me confirmed towns because Sakura was unable to match us.
Also yes, I'm a conmuter. I have other ability which I don't know what it does.
Also yes, I'm a conmuter. I have other ability which I don't know what it does.
No limits to your commute?
I can't use my other ability while I conmute obviously, but I don't know what it does so...
I didn't read Batu as town. He was unreadable for me because he was playing really bad. I put him in my null list and wrote as a sidenote he's probably just a newbie town doing whatever
Dunno why it's significant if I have a wrong read on someone on the first day anyway nya
Dunno why it's significant if I have a wrong read on someone on the first day anyway nya
Didn't really answer my question. What I'm asking is if it's X-shot or something like non-consecutive.Zexion wrote:
I can't use my other ability while I conmute obviously, but I don't know what it does so...
Because you can't give town pass for newbness on bastard games, I never once believed Batu could be town only because it was his first game or playstyle, for all I knew he could have changed alignment overnight.
I can conmute every night.Navizel wrote:
Didn't really answer my question. What I'm asking is if it's X-shot or something like non-consecutive.Zexion wrote:
I can't use my other ability while I conmute obviously, but I don't know what it does so...
Townreading Frostings. Sakura might be a third party. Null-scum Jess and Zexion.
Did you use it on Night 1?Zexion wrote:
I can conmute every night.
Because.
Frosty: It is important obviously, it surely could be a wrong read, but you're ignoring the fact that I kept pushing Batu Day 1 and now you're saying that i'm the 2nd scummiest, and your read on me is static despite everything.
Adding all this up makes me think you're scum.
Adding all this up makes me think you're scum.
Just because.
Ftr: The fact that Zexion commuted makes my results today totally worthless.
(He couldn't kill Navizel with my ability if he's mafia and Navizel couldn't kill him if he was mafia)
(He couldn't kill Navizel with my ability if he's mafia and Navizel couldn't kill him if he was mafia)
Something about roles.
Also the fact that im Frosty's 2nd scummiest read, and he's trusting my result on Navizel, is all kinds of sketch
Frosty is scum, help me lynch him.
Frosty is scum, help me lynch him.
Here's what I think nya:Sakura wrote:
Frosty: It is important obviously, it surely could be a wrong read, but you're ignoring the fact that I kept pushing Batu Day 1 and now you're saying that i'm the 2nd scummiest, and your read on me is static despite everything.
Adding all this up makes me think you're scum.
I think Jess is town and you're a third party, not necessarily scum, and I'm trying to figure out if your win condition is town-sided or not.
If I were to compare you and Jess only in terms of traditional scum behaviour, you'd have more scum points than Jess
You're going to explain that 2nd sentence because not only that is false, but also i'm not a third party either, sooo
Why are there no kills if Frostings is scum?
I hate using meta, but on Dake's Bastard Mini I the post-restrictioned cat was also cult. Do you think he would do it twice?
But on scumminess yeah, frostings comes first then Navi for his intense role fishing.
But on scumminess yeah, frostings comes first then Navi for his intense role fishing.
Where are you getting the idea that I'm trusting your results? nyaSakura wrote:
Also the fact that im Frosty's 2nd scummiest read, and he's trusting my result on Navizel, is all kinds of sketch
I do agree with this.Zexion wrote:
But on scumminess yeah, frostings comes first then Navi for his intense role fishing.
Frostings wrote:
Where are you getting the idea that I'm trusting your results? nyaSakura wrote:
Also the fact that im Frosty's 2nd scummiest read, and he's trusting my result on Navizel, is all kinds of sketch
Frostings wrote:
If I ignore your results, I actually think Navizel is the scummiest, and Jess is more town than you.Sakura wrote:
Plus we know that Jess is not scared to bus.
Also if you knew your action on Day1 got cancelled, why not say so?
nya
>Thinks navizel is scummiest if he ignores my result
>Doesn't vote navizel
Conclusion:
>is not ignoring my results
>Doesn't vote navizel
Conclusion:
>is not ignoring my results
Oh yeah i forgot to mention i can't be cult recruited, my role specifically mentions that. So Zexion might be right about there being a cult.
Okay. The thing is I also have another power which can disable abilities that can cause damage. If you used your commute last Night 1, your scumpoints would lessen. The fact that there were no nightkills yet make me townread Frostings. And by the way, I targeted Jess last night.Zexion wrote:
I hate using meta, but on Dake's Bastard Mini I the post-restrictioned cat was also cult. Do you think he would do it twice?
But on scumminess yeah, frostings comes first then Navi for his intense role fishing.
2whatSakura wrote:
>Thinks navizel is scummiest if he ignores my result
>Doesn't vote navizel
Conclusion:
>is not ignoring my results
uhhhhhh sick reasoning there nya
On a serious note, if i wasn't town i'd be fueling the 1v1 navi and zexion are having instead of trying to get you lynched.
I have no actions that could "damage" others, unless you count the mysterious one which I used on D1 and caused a flower rain. (Yeah, that was me).
Honestly I have a hard time believing how convienent Navi's role is.
Honestly I have a hard time believing how convienent Navi's role is.
Man I can't take my own words seriously with this christmas avatar.
[color=#FF0000*guys I have a box but I don't know what it does.][/color]
-[Jess]- wrote:
*guys I have a box but I don't know what it does.
*but I can't open it.
Pretty sure we all know opening the Pandora's Box is not a good idea.
i did receive a box N1 too now that i remember it, it's not a pandora's box tho, just a box.
I feel like it's for Frostings assuming it does anything.
Topic Starter
It's currently: Day 3
Current weather: Partially cloudy
Alive players: 5
Votecount:
DakeDekaane (1) - Navizel
Frostings (1) - Sakura
Navizel (1) - Zexion
Night will fall in 132 hours. (Dec 18th 18:30 UTC)Current weather: Partially cloudy
Alive players: 5
Votecount:
DakeDekaane (1) - Navizel
Frostings (1) - Sakura
Navizel (1) - Zexion
No clue what they're for nyaNavizel wrote:
I feel like it's for Frostings assuming it does anything.
tbh commuter is a pretty safe claim too *shrug*Zexion wrote:
Honestly I have a hard time believing how convienent Navi's role is.
Schrodinger hue
Why would I prefer to commute instead of killing people if I was scum lol, unless you think I'm a survivor commuter or something like that.
Besides I wanted to cause another flower rain with my other ability to prove it but something else happened.
Besides I wanted to cause another flower rain with my other ability to prove it but something else happened.
This is true.Zexion wrote:
Why would I prefer to commute instead of killing people if I was scum lol
Also, no commuter is in no way close to a "safe" claim, since it can be proven, can we lynch Frostings now pls.
What? I'm saying it's possible to fake claim commuter given what's happened (no night kills). Maybe I'm not understanding something nyaZexion wrote:
Why would I prefer to commute instead of killing people if I was scum lol, unless you think I'm a survivor commuter or something like that.
I don't think you're faking anyways, I was just pointing it out
How can it be proven in this setup? can you explain because I actually don't knowSakura wrote:
Also, no commuter is in no way close to a "safe" claim, since it can be proven, can we lynch Frostings now pls.
That would involve you knowing the setup, if he's commuting he can't be targeted by anything which means just like me, he can't be recruited into anything.Frostings wrote:
How can it be proven in this setup? can you explain because I actually don't know
I'm the cat man
I got a PR and a one-shot ability that's anti-town to claim. I haven't used it yet meow
I got a PR and a one-shot ability that's anti-town to claim. I haven't used it yet meow
*I am Chara,and I have a shot of erase someone.
Topic Starter
It's currently: Day 3
Current weather: Partially cloudy
Alive players: 5
Votecount:
DakeDekaane (1) - Navizel
Frostings (1) - Sakura, Zexion [L-1]
Not voting: -[Jess]-, Frostings.
Night will fall in 108 hours. (Dec 18th 18:30 UTC)Current weather: Partially cloudy
Alive players: 5
Votecount:
DakeDekaane (1) - Navizel
Frostings (1) - Sakura, Zexion [L-1]
Not voting: -[Jess]-, Frostings.
I think you're misunderstanding something meowZexion wrote:
Why would I prefer to commute instead of killing people if I was scum lol, unless you think I'm a survivor commuter or something like that.
If you were a scum commuter, you would make the night kills instead of commuting.
If you were scum, but not a commuter, and you tried to make night kills and they failed, you could claim you were town commuter and commuted every night, which, in my opinion, would be a safe claim
If that was the case Magic Bomb wouldn't have died.
Magic bomb died from a day kill by batu, if scum was able to do a night kill during N1 and a day kill the next day then this game's unbalanced as heck, considering it was a 7p game at day start, it's also entirely likely batu was the only mafia, considering my role PM hints to the existance of cult.
Yo Sakura, here's a serious question
Why would Dake tell us very explicitly that Batu killed MB? It's not even an "official" announcement, it just looks like part of the flavor meow
Why would Dake tell us very explicitly that Batu killed MB? It's not even an "official" announcement, it just looks like part of the flavor meow
DakeDekaane wrote:
A grudge? A mission? No one would know what happened.
What everyone saw was how Batujitsu hurried to lit a Molotov cocktail and throwed it recklessly to - Magic Bomb -. His steel body, resistant to everything, couldn't help but serve as an oven for his delicate circuits.
- Magic Bomb -, the Robot has been put on fire, and died.
Because Bastard game, it's entirely possible batu knew (or didnt know due to hidden factor) that his name would show up.
Can we lynch someone now
Either Navi or Frostings is fine to me.
Honestly I see no point in continuing this discussion. We need something to happen.
Either Navi or Frostings is fine to me.
Honestly I see no point in continuing this discussion. We need something to happen.
Alright. Vote:Frostings
Whatever. In case my disable actually does something.. Frostings and Sakura are the only people I haven't targeted yet.
Whatever. In case my disable actually does something.. Frostings and Sakura are the only people I haven't targeted yet.
But I guess my commute resolves first so... not likely Sakura could have matched us.Navizel wrote:
Alright. Vote:Frostings
Whatever. In case my disable actually does something.. Frostings and Sakura are the only people I haven't targeted yet.
I didn't. I targeted you Night 1. Jess was Night 2.
Topic Starter
Votecount:
Frostings (3) - Sakura, Zexion, Navizel [L-0]
Not voting: -[Jess]-, Frostings.
"Nananananananana~ Nananananananana~ Catman!"Frostings (3) - Sakura, Zexion, Navizel [L-0]
Not voting: -[Jess]-, Frostings.
"Shut up!"
*meow*
Frostings, the Cat God Worshipper, has been lynched.
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Another peaceful night...
"Not this night, buddy."
"Oh, hi!"
*splish splash*
Navizel, the Matchmaking Machine, has been killed.
"Not this night, buddy."
"Oh, hi!"
*splish splash*
Navizel, the Matchmaking Machine, has been killed.
It's currently: Day 4
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Huh, did navizel copy my role or something?
Nevertheless i targeted both navi and jess last night
Nevertheless i targeted both navi and jess last night
Jess, did you "erase" Navi last night?
Sakura, why did Navizel had your role? I think you may know a bit more about this.
Sakura, why did Navizel had your role? I think you may know a bit more about this.
Im guessing Navizel got my role when i targeted him N2 as per his post:
Navizel wrote:
I don't know anyone's role though? I only got to know Sakura's role because she targeted me.
Yeah reading back I tought the same.
I want to know if Jess did that kill, so I'll wait until she says something.
I want to know if Jess did that kill, so I'll wait until she says something.
If we put the pieces together...
You are unable to use kills or whatever navizel locked you from doing since he targeted you during the one night you didn't commute. I dont believe Navizel had a reason to lie about this, only thing is whether you lied about not commuting N1.
I targeted both Navi and Jess, seeing as Navi died, Jess is conf scum unless my role has a naive element to it, or unless you also happened to kill Navizel last night.
I'm still trying to figure this out based on the claims from the deceased navi, it's also probable that Navi was right about you, but im leaning more on Jess right now, im waiting to hear from her.
You are unable to use kills or whatever navizel locked you from doing since he targeted you during the one night you didn't commute. I dont believe Navizel had a reason to lie about this, only thing is whether you lied about not commuting N1.
I targeted both Navi and Jess, seeing as Navi died, Jess is conf scum unless my role has a naive element to it, or unless you also happened to kill Navizel last night.
I'm still trying to figure this out based on the claims from the deceased navi, it's also probable that Navi was right about you, but im leaning more on Jess right now, im waiting to hear from her.
Meh, even if my ability was ok, there's still the chance that you had targeted Navi for a kill to begin with :<
Ack, im gonna have to solve this by reading back and checking day play.
Ack, im gonna have to solve this by reading back and checking day play.
Jess being scum would be way too convenient, I mean, red text and claiming to have an ability to "erase" someone? Damn.
What about the Game Master being scum? The cat workshipper was just like Bastard Mini I, so maybe the mod is scum here too...
What about the Game Master being scum? The cat workshipper was just like Bastard Mini I, so maybe the mod is scum here too...
I did consider that possibility Day 1, but no one wanted to lynch him, i dont think it's a risk i want to take in LyLo because if it turns into a supersaint, vengeful or even a no lynch or it doesnt win the game then we lose.... that's way too many chances of losing D:
I'm going through that game's roles just in case:
Bastard Mini I Role List
For easier referencing.DakeDekaane wrote:
Roles:
beeboy - Town Bulletproof Puppet (Weak, Loved) Confused Jack-of-all-Trades.
Their night action can be controlled by the Puppeteer.
Their night action gets randomized, but not the target.
Dies when targetting anti-town players.
Requires 1 vote more to be lynched.
Drezi - Paranoid Cop False Paranoid Gun Owner (Random Compulsive Janitor Double Voter).
Every time he voted, there was a dice roll, 1st die decided the second vote and the 2nd would decide the player who would not be revealed if killed that night.
Always get Mafia results.
GuyInFreezer - Secret Townie (Strong-Willed Dreamer).
Every night he could know three elements present in that night.
Tanzklaue - Mystery Townie (Suicidal Bomb, Lyncher Restless Spirit).
Bombs himself along with another player, then becomes a Restless Spirit who had to lynch the Evil Mastermind.
CalignoBot - Cat God Cultist.
"End all your sentences with nya" post restriction.
Can recruit players into his cult, changing the alignment and removing the abilities.
Zexion - Mafia Puppeteer.
"End all your sentences with desu" post restriction.
Could make kills via his puppet or control the target of his night action.
Funny you say that considering how Simple Bastard went ¬¬ (No I'm not mad asdf)
So what would be the difference between a "cultist" and a "workshipper"?
Navizel could disable a player's ability to do "destructive stuff" or so he claimed, he also claimed to have gotten my role when i targeted him which is true by the flip.DakeDekaane wrote:
Resting in a better place:
- - Magic Bomb -, the Robot, incinerated in Day 2.
- Batujitsu, the Rookie Spy, lynched in Day 2.
- Frostings, the Cat God Worshipper, lynched in Day 3.
- Navizel, the Matchmaking Machine, killed in Night 3.
Dake used the same color as the other game so i assume that's the color he uses for cults (just like i use purple for cults).
Also i think mod being scum is a bit too cliche right now.
There's worse stuff than making Jess type in red, i mean there's the counterpart to Innocent Child called Guilty Child (Mod announces the player as being part of the mafia).
Also i think mod being scum is a bit too cliche right now.
There's worse stuff than making Jess type in red, i mean there's the counterpart to Innocent Child called Guilty Child (Mod announces the player as being part of the mafia).
Wait no, mod can't be scum.
Jess can't kill on her own, N1/N2 there werent any kills so the mod isn't killing either, the only way for Navizel to have died is if either you didnt commute and kill, or Navizel died because Jess is scum and i paired them.
Well actually mod is still possible scum but if he is, he can't kill, but it's impossible for all 3 of us to be town together at this point, otherwise who the fuck killed Navi if Jess is town (Navi wouldn't die because of my ability) and you're town.
*oh,hi.I erase someone.did you see that?
Well... I kinda expected it. But I wasn't so sure Jess would admit it...
If that's true then your matchmaking doesn't tell us about Jess being scum Sakura.
Pretty true.
It explains the kill, it doesnt mean neither of you can be scum, but it also allows the possibility of all 3 of us being town.
Question, if Frosty was cultist, who would they have culted... I claimed i couldn't be culted so obv he didnt target me, but idr which day i claimed it, if it was yesterday then it's possible he failed an attempt to cult me if he ever did
If frosty doesnt count as cultist then we might as well lynch the mod...
Ugh this is the part i don't like about bastard games, but whatevs, i had fun figuring out bato and frosty in the end.
Vote: DakeDekaane
It explains the kill, it doesnt mean neither of you can be scum, but it also allows the possibility of all 3 of us being town.
Question, if Frosty was cultist, who would they have culted... I claimed i couldn't be culted so obv he didnt target me, but idr which day i claimed it, if it was yesterday then it's possible he failed an attempt to cult me if he ever did
If frosty doesnt count as cultist then we might as well lynch the mod...
Ugh this is the part i don't like about bastard games, but whatevs, i had fun figuring out bato and frosty in the end.
Vote: DakeDekaane
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Actually, did Jess ever express suspicion of Navi enough to shoot him?
Actually, did Jess ever express suspicion of Navi enough to shoot him?
*i pick it randomly.
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