1. Futsuu (2.07 stars, 318 notes)
2. Inner Oni (5.29 stars, 1143 notes)
3. Kantan (1.3 stars, 162 notes)
4. Muzukashii (3.16 stars, 550 notes)
5. Oni (4.08 stars, 772 notes)

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• 
  00:18:010 d? sounds good
  01:00:910 k ^
  
  01:37:810 move to 01:38:310
  01:42:510 ^
  01:47:310 ^
  01:52:110 ^
  
  the diff is too hard i think qwqqqqq del some notes to make it easier pls qwqqqq

• 
  00:12:310 k? follow the sound?
  00:23:310 del?
  
  and make some rest time in the diff qwq it's hard XDD

• 
  00:47:310 k
  01:37:710 (784,785) - Ctrl+G? sounds good
  01:47:710 d i don't know if you want to make a change or..owo?
  01:47:910 k^ oxxxo also a good set
  
  02:08:910 k
  02:09:110 (958,959,960) - ddd "my style"

mliencheng wrote:

pm mod:

Kantan too easy.

Futsuu lacks notes in the middle.

Muzukashii too hard.

Oni nice map.

Inner Oni not too hard ????

stu00608 wrote:

m4m mod >w<

change OD 6 to 5 ?


[Muzukashii ]

• 
  00:18:010 d? sounds good Changed :3!
  01:00:910 k ^ Changed :3!
  
  01:37:810 move to 01:38:310 Changed :3!
  01:42:510 ^ Changed :3!
  01:47:310 ^ Changed :3!
  01:52:110 ^ Changed :3!
  
  the diff is too hard i think qwqqqqq del some notes to make it easier pls qwqqqq Changed :3! All right ;w;

[Oni ]

• 
  00:12:310 k? follow the sound? Changed :3!
  00:23:310 del? Changed :3!
  
  and make some rest time in the diff qwq it's hard XDD Changed :3!

[The Undying Oni ]

• 
  00:47:310 k Unchanged ;w;... That way the k(s) after will be emphasized better.
  01:37:710 (784,785) - Ctrl+G? sounds good Changed :3!
  01:47:710 d i don't know if you want to make a change or..owo? Changed :3! Nah, just ran out of good ideas
  01:47:910 k^ oxxxo also a good set Changed :3! Actually this one is better XD!
  
  02:08:910 k Unchanged ;w;... To be consistent with Oni, also the pitch didn't go up in that note.
  02:09:110 (958,959,960) - ddd "my style" Unchanged ;w;... Not enough dynamic "not me style" *run*

<3 <3 <3 <3

qoot8123 wrote:

Gave some suggestions with mapper in irc

chatlog

19:07 S a n d: qoot大大可以幫忙mod嗎><? 這個譜還有很多問題
19:09 qoot8123: 我最近不太想mod 耶ww
19:09 qoot8123: 不過可以看一下
19:10 S a n d: 任何一點點微小的建議都很感謝喔><!
19:10 qoot8123: 能np一下嗎
19:10 *S a n d is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/813819 Toby Fox - Battle Against a True Hero]
19:10 S a n d: :3
19:12 qoot8123: kiai好像有點太長了
19:13 S a n d: 摁摁 可是真正嗨的就是那兩段啊;w; 而且本來更長 還有修短過
19:15 qoot8123: futsuu一開始可以簡單一點
19:15 qoot8123: 襯托下一段
19:16 S a n d: 這種東西要改簡單真的好難www
19:17 S a n d: Updated, 求看:3
19:20 qoot8123: 可以改成這樣
19:20 qoot8123: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3888650
19:20 qoot8123: 一開始到00:06:510 - 
19:21 qoot8123: 其他diff第一段也要改簡單一點
19:22 S a n d: 猛欸= = 聽起來真的順好多 跪了
19:23 qoot8123: 到00:19:310 - 應該都可以簡單一點
19:23 qoot8123: kantan基本上放4/1就夠了
19:24 S a n d: Futsuu 改完了
19:24 S a n d: 4/1 @_@!?
19:24 S a n d: 間隔不會太多嗎?
19:24 qoot8123: 不會啊
19:24 qoot8123: 畢竟開頭蠻安靜的
19:25 S a n d: 那幾乎都會被全刪掉耶wwww
19:25 S a n d: 喔喔 我以為您說整首wwww
19:25 qoot8123: www
19:25 qoot8123: 怎模可能是整首w
19:26 S a n d: 嚇死wwww
19:26 S a n d: Update惹 :3
19:26 S a n d: 我Muzu也改簡單點好了
19:27 S a n d: 我Oni也改簡單點好了= =
19:28 S a n d: Inner改難點?
19:28 qoot8123: 不要難到over就行
19:28 S a n d: 摁摁
19:30 qoot8123: 感覺muzu kiai的部分偏難
19:30 qoot8123: futsuu也是
19:30 S a n d: Futsuu我覺得還好啊;w;
19:31 qoot8123: 可能是因為bpm偏低吧
19:31 qoot8123: 基本上futsuu的kiai部分都是1/2+3/4
19:31 S a n d: BPM偏低應該可以做難一點吧?
19:31 S a n d: 恩......
19:32 qoot8123: 基本上bpm 要低於100還比較能接受w
19:33 S a n d: 什麼標準= = = = =
19:34 qoot8123: 低於100,timing 加倍也是沒過200
19:34 S a n d: 我覺得我futsuu kiai部分不都是1/2+3/4嗎:3?
19:34 qoot8123: 不過1/2+3/4 的結構是比較簡單一點的muzu才有的w
19:35 S a n d: 好吧;w; 我刪掉一些1/2
19:35 qoot8123: 不過這樣spread你要注意一下喔w
19:35 S a n d: 感覺muzu跟oni的gap超大= =
19:36 qoot8123: 主因是現在muzu有限制難度上限
19:36 qoot8123: oni沒有
19:36 S a n d: 摁摁
19:36 qoot8123: 所以正常mapper做完oni跟muzu差距都很大
19:37 S a n d: *咳咳 幽玄
19:37 qoot8123: ww
19:41 S a n d: Updated :3
19:42 S a n d: 等等您把這個對話丟到forum上. 我給kd :D
19:42 qoot8123: 好:3
19:42 qoot8123: 我等等再看一下
19:42 qoot8123: 先刷個圖w
19:43 S a n d: 好owob
20:01 qoot8123: 我覺得你可以參考tasuke的譜二連的用法
20:02 S a n d: 哪張?
20:03 qoot8123: anima
20:03 qoot8123: inner oni 
20:03 qoot8123: 00:23:556 - 這一段
20:04 qoot8123: 留個3/4的間隔效果不錯
20:04 S a n d: 我很多的譜都有這樣用喔;w; 只是那張沒有而已
20:04 qoot8123: ww
20:04 S a n d: 真的我很多譜都有這樣做;w;
20:05 qoot8123: 因為這樣才能跟其他的難度做點些微的區別w
20:05 qoot8123: 其他段落*
20:05 S a n d: 哪一個? Muzu嗎?
20:05 qoot8123: 我說的是同個難度不同的橋段
20:06 S a n d: 我覺得差別都頗大的說@_@?
20:06 qoot8123: 因為如果沒有那個間隔感覺會有點像流水帳一直連到底的感覺
20:07 S a n d: 喔喔 那應該是Inner最明顯?
20:08 S a n d: 話說Muzu的 01:10:510
20:08 S a n d: 不就有那樣的二連了嗎:3?
20:08 S a n d: 01:10:510 -
20:10 qoot8123: 嗯
20:11 qoot8123: 感覺inner oni kiai的部分有點over www
20:11 S a n d: 是嗎wwwww
20:11 S a n d: 可是說得通啊wwww
20:12 qoot8123: 你到時候再問問看其他比較有經驗的modder
20:12 qoot8123: 我是覺得有點overmap
20:13 S a n d: 那該怎麼改呢TwT?
20:14 S a n d: Oni我先update一下
20:14 qoot8123: 我是覺得這首不是和太長的1/4
20:14 S a n d: 有改了第一kiai二連
20:14 qoot8123: 不適合*
20:15 S a n d: 真的嗎TwT 這樣就沒ppㄌ (
20:15 *S a n d run
20:20 qoot8123: kantan我有一些建議
20:21 S a n d: 請說:3
20:21 qoot8123: 01:56:910 (28) - 這個note可以刪掉,雖然有音但是多了這個note感覺後面的節奏就比較沒那麼強烈了
20:21 qoot8123: 02:01:710 (37) - 這個也是
20:22 qoot8123: 02:06:510 (46) - ^
20:22 S a n d: 侯 都刪了
20:22 qoot8123: 後面應該還有重複一次
20:23 S a n d: 剛剛本來想說後面留著會不會有點改變比較好?
20:23 qoot8123: 都可以
20:23 qoot8123: 影響並不大
20:24 S a n d: okㄌ:3
20:24 qoot8123: 01:02:010 (86) - 這個是不是放錯位置了
20:25 S a n d: 欸真的耶= = 靠邀 怎都沒看到
20:25 S a n d: ok 都修好ㄌ
20:26 qoot8123: 01:08:510 (97) - 這個改成k然後移到01:10:110 - 
20:27 S a n d: 已改
20:27 S a n d: 我找找重複點
20:27 qoot8123: 應該是spinner那裏
20:28 S a n d: 恩 沒有重複點lol
20:29 qoot8123: 感覺kiai部分維持 1/1的 ooo o o ooo就可以了
20:29 qoot8123: 01:25:710 - 這裡感覺有點放太多了
20:30 S a n d: 不加k嗎?
20:30 qoot8123: 那只是pattern的結構,並沒限制用啥顏色w
20:30 S a n d: 喔喔喔/w\/w\/w\
20:31 qoot8123: 01:32:510 (137,138) - 這兩個可以交換
20:32 S a n d: 改惹owob
20:32 qoot8123: 對了,因效用normal會比較好w
20:32 S a n d: 我skin的音效有改過 所以都沒差lol 等等改
20:33 qoot8123: 嗯
20:33 qoot8123: 感覺kantan現在比較沒太大的問題了
20:37 qoot8123: 那就先到這了,感覺比較有爭議的就是futsuu和muzu的難度
20:37 S a n d: 原來不是inner嗎wwwwww
20:37 qoot8123: 那我post摟
20:37 S a n d: 好w
20:38 qoot8123: inner 也是有點危險就是了w
20:38 S a n d: 好 非常感謝喔owobbbbbbb

Firce777 wrote:

irc mod

SPOILER

2015-10-29 18:09 S a n d: _ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/813834 Toby Fox - Battle Against a True Hero]_
2015-10-29 18:09 S a n d: 求看譜:D
2015-10-29 18:14 Firce777: 最後的難度太流水帳
2015-10-29 18:14 S a n d: 太平淡?
2015-10-29 18:14 Firce777: 那7連會讓人覺得無聊
2015-10-29 18:14 Firce777: 恩
2015-10-29 18:14 S a n d: 恩.................
2015-10-29 18:14 S a n d: 我想想怎麼改
2015-10-29 18:14 Firce777: 整個難度都沒有起伏
2015-10-29 18:15 S a n d: 好像整個都做得太難了lol
2015-10-29 18:16 Firce777: 01:36:110- 記得加條紅線改成3拍式
2015-10-29 18:17 S a n d: 喔喔好
2015-10-29 18:17 S a n d: 還好搞不懂那些小節拍是幹嘛的wwww
2015-10-29 18:18 S a n d: 01:55:310- 這邊改回4/4?
2015-10-29 18:19 Firce777: 那邊還是3/4
2015-10-29 18:19 S a n d: 是喔 @_@
2015-10-29 18:20 Firce777: 感覺我有必要到時加一篇如何分辨歌曲拍子的教學
2015-10-29 18:20 S a n d: 我超需要喔www
2015-10-29 18:21 S a n d: 話說其他難度怎麼樣?
2015-10-29 18:22 Firce777: 精簡的話就是看幾拍後旋律會重複一次
2015-10-29 18:22 Firce777: 那就是把那拍數約分成最小數就好
2015-10-29 18:22 Firce777: 拍子獵奇的歌不在此公式內
2015-10-29 18:22 S a n d: 可是我看您有很多別張有不是3/4也不是4/4的;w;
2015-10-29 18:23 Firce777: 那是因為我想保持小節線精簡美觀
2015-10-29 18:23 S a n d: 其實也沒差吧w
2015-10-29 18:24 Firce777: 如果4拍後接2拍又變回4拍 我會直接6/4拍下去

Raiden wrote:

Those chinese IRC mods xddd I can't understand anything

[>General<]
Background is 1365x768, get a resized one with 1366x768 or 1280x720 or 1024x768 Oh you fucking kidding me.....

[>Kantan<]
01:35:110 (1) - delete? a break is good enough for this gap Fixed :3!
02:12:110 - 02:13:110 - this kinda is a held note like you represented at 02:13:310 (54) - with the slider so 2 sliders would be more accurate imo Changed :3! Indeed <3
02:31:310 (87) - 02:32:510 (88) - same ^ Changed :3! ^
02:33:710 (1) - I think there is no need for a Spinner, there isn't any slowdown or anything, ending the slider at 02:33:710 - would be a nicer idea imo Indeed, changed :3
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00:06:510 (5) - the note is not really stressed so I don't see the necessity of a finisher Changed :3! Indeed, also was planning to change all k in that section to K, but meh, too stressed.
You got a nice pattern arrangement heh. CREDITS TO QOOT GOD <3!
01:10:910 (101) - the Fnisher would be more heavily emphasized if you deleted this note Changed :3! Yep :3
01:36:110 - 01:55:310 - I love this part. Idk, it gives me chills. IKR! Inb4 Undertale best game and best music 2015

Very nice diff.

[>Futsuu<]
In case you have the spinners and sliders I mentioned on the first part of the mod, same suggestions. No sliders, but removed the spinner in the end :3

Hmm. Maybe having some 3/4 patterns is nice to introduce this rhythm to newer players, but it'd be nicer to have gaps between these patterns and the next notes so the player doesn't choke when doing them. ((For example 00:20:310 (34) - deleting this would give a proper break after 00:19:310 (31,32,33) - )). Also adding those breaks would make the spread more reasonable since Kantan is way less dense than Futsuu Changed :3! Removed a lot of notes

Not gonna be picky about patterns, they seem fine to me. Rhythm swaps in Kiai seem a bit wonky, but not undoable.

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That is all. 2:30 x 2 = 5 mins which is my map. A..all right ;w;

:3

RRRRR wrote:

The Undying Oni
將第1段副歌簡單化+優化，更改幅度真得頗多我不知如何說明所以不細分哩SOR~我個人覺得這樣比較好啦也比較不衝突到
https://mega.nz/#!3UM3nQKJ!7YT4CLp37c25 ... h92wSZNxWQ　

OnosakiHito wrote:

Inner Oni or Ura Oni as name please.

ABe_BeBe wrote:

m4m mod <3

Oni change OD5.5 to 5? Fixed :3!

Oni

00:51:610 - 00:52:210 maybe can change something Changed something :3!

Inner Oni not too hard XD?

-LuoLuo- wrote:

總之

Kantan 太簡單

Futsuu 我不知道

Muzu 是Oni等級吧

Oni good!

Inner Oni 我沒玩 (逃

質量這麼低真的可以嗎w

Shiroi Hiroshi wrote:

m4m via forum pm

SPOILER

Kantan

General : too op if HP 5 change to 3-4 ? Changed :3! Changed to HP4

Futsuu
02:33:510 (425) - finish ? Changed :3!

Muzukashii
00:53:911 - k ? Changed :3! Moved the following note backward
01:09:010 - d? Unchanged ;w;... It doesn't really fit the general pattern
Oni
uh.. no :3

Inner

00:18:510 - ~ 00:18:910 - there are piano voice ? try add k at 00:18:510 - here and 00:18:910 - here so there are no silent note ? Unchanged ;w;... I on purposely left out the notes to be silent :3
00:22:710 - ~00:25:710 - such long note why dont you give break by delete one note maybe delete this 00:24:210 - Unchanged ;w;... I was going to give a break at 00:24:010 - or 00:24:210 -. But both parts have sounds and flow much better with notes.
00:30:610 - delete for give break if you want ;w;^
and all i see is very hard note ._. sorry if not help much , mod by my own style
and goodluck sand

Ty for your mod !

OzzyOzrock wrote:

Just wanna say that you don't need to try and make spread with Inner Oni. Difficulty spread should be like this: K---F---M---O-------------I

Oni should be A LOT easier (you can also make a [Light Oni]) or you can expect a bad time getting this ranked.

OzzyOzrock wrote:

Just wanna say that you don't need to try and make spread with Inner Oni. Difficulty spread should be like this: K---F---M---O-------------I

Oni should be A LOT easier (you can also make a [Light Oni]) or you can expect a bad time getting this ranked.

Niko-nyan wrote:

OzzyOzrock wrote:

Just wanna say that you don't need to try and make spread with Inner Oni. Difficulty spread should be like this: K---F---M---O-------------I

Oni should be A LOT easier (you can also make a [Light Oni]) or you can expect a bad time getting this ranked.

Most preferable to do btw and i agree with ozzy Yep!

btw here mah mod :< <:

[General]
Remove one of Undyne please because it is necessary to put it twice. Removed! I guess my original meaning didn't work ;w;

[Oni]
00:24:910 - How about to make it dkkdk? More valuable to make the flow. Changed :3! Nicely pointed out
00:31:310 - Also same with above. Changed :3! ^
not much to mod btw .w. (1st kiai really awkward for me. The placement and the music isn't same at all. I can't get which sound you did on that part.)
Ah... I kinda see what you meant. I will modify it :3!
blah blah blah just dat

1. Artist should be "toby fox", not "Toby Fox".
2. Undyne is not necessary in Tags since you already have "Undyne The Undying".
3. Preview point should be here 00:19:310 -

1. 00:50:510 - I feel this note will play better as k.
2. 01:03:310 - ^
3. 01:39:110 (4,6) - Since this is kantan, i think removing these notes will be better for the mapset.
4. 01:48:710 - 01:49:910 - ^
5. 02:12:110 - I would replace these 2 sliders with a note in the start of each, its weird while playing.
6. 02:31:310 - ^

Lost The Lights wrote:

As promised, i'm modding after getting View of The River Styx qualified :^) I TOLD YOU IT WAS HAPPENING SOON.

[General]

1. Artist should be "toby fox", not "Toby Fox".Changed :3!
2. Undyne is not necessary in Tags since you already have "Undyne The Undying". Fixed :3! I thought I already applied this in Niko's mod. But then I realize that it was only Oni lol
3. Preview point should be here 00:19:310 -

Unchanged ;w;... Preferably not changing it, since I always like to set preview time earlier than the kiai

[Kantan]

1. 00:50:510 - I feel this note will play better as k. Changed :3!
2. 01:03:310 - ^ Changed :3!
3. 01:39:110 (4,6) - Since this is kantan, i think removing these notes will be better for the mapset. Changed :3! Though it makes it lamer, but I guess it works.
4. 01:48:710 - 01:49:910 - ^ Changed :3! ^
5. 02:12:110 - I would replace these 2 sliders with a note in the start of each, its weird while playing. Changed :3!
6. 02:31:310 - ^

Changed :3!

After seeing the entire mapset, i gave up modding this, i just can't do it.
I'll be honest, i don't like how you mapped this, it feels like you placed the notes and randomly added hitsounds.
I just can't, i'm sorry. I'm sorry.

whosthebox wrote:

IRC mod, because i can and i FUCKING love the song :^)

I'll mod the other diffs later

Inner Oni

09:16 whosthebox: let me se
09:16 whosthebox: see*
09:16 whosthebox: can i make a IRC mod for inner oni?
09:16 S a n d: PLEASE DO ><! ANY MOD MAKES ME HAPPY
09:16 whosthebox: i'll check the other diffs later and i'll post it on the thread
09:17 whosthebox: but for now, i really want mod inner oni
09:17 S a n d: OMG ><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
09:17 whosthebox: 00:01:610 (7) -
09:17 whosthebox: this one
09:18 whosthebox: yeah, it sounds better
09:18 whosthebox: try removing it, and tell me what your think
09:19 whosthebox: the beggining of the song is actually pretty calm
09:19 S a n d: Should I remove all the other triplets too?
09:19 whosthebox: i'm checking that
09:19 S a n d: True, I just removed all 3 triplets
09:19 whosthebox: yeah
09:20 whosthebox: and the doblets too
09:20 whosthebox: just make it "easy" 'till the song really stars
09:20 S a n d: The doublet didn't work D:?
09:21 whosthebox: try removing a few
09:21 whosthebox: and listen
09:21 whosthebox: imo, sounds better
09:21 whosthebox: idk, just a suggestion
09:21 S a n d: Yep, got it
09:21 whosthebox: the triplets are not bad
09:21 S a n d: delete one, kept one, delete one, kept one...etc.
09:21 whosthebox: there aren't many
09:21 whosthebox: yeah
09:22 whosthebox: the triplets there aren't that much, and since the song has some more tones, it's pretty good
09:22 whosthebox: 00:18:610 -
09:22 whosthebox: and 00:18:910 -
09:22 whosthebox: you should add 2 notes
09:23 S a n d: NO
09:23 S a n d: That spot there
09:23 S a n d: is le beautiful piano solo
09:23 whosthebox: LEL
09:23 whosthebox: try adding 2 k
09:23 whosthebox: and set the hitsound
09:23 whosthebox: pretty low
09:23 S a n d: pls no qwq
09:23 whosthebox: so you can hear the piano over the notes
09:23 whosthebox: i usually love hearing that kind of parts
09:24 S a n d: Fine, piano part with 2 k at 20%
09:24 whosthebox: then i add some timing points
09:24 whosthebox: i set the audio to 5%
09:24 whosthebox: and screw everything :^)
09:24 S a n d: I thought you can't use 5%?
09:24 whosthebox: "and screw everything :^)"
09:25 whosthebox: the rules are for being fucked
09:26 S a n d: I will do:
09:26 S a n d: - First k: 20%, 0.95x sv
09:26 S a n d: - Second k: 10%, 0.90x sv
09:26 whosthebox: yeah
09:26 whosthebox: that's what i like
09:26 whosthebox: most of my recent beatmaps are flooded with timing points
09:26 S a n d: lol, white prism v3?
09:26 whosthebox: just for things like -10% audio notes
09:26 whosthebox: nono, not speed changes
09:26 whosthebox: audio mostly
09:27 whosthebox: i love playing with the hitsound volume
09:27 whosthebox: 00:19:510 (83) -
09:27 whosthebox: that one, try making it a d
09:27 whosthebox: and tell me what you think
09:28 S a n d: Works :3
09:28 whosthebox: 00:20:810 (96,97) -
09:28 S a n d: 00:25:910 - Also changed here
09:28 whosthebox: those two, try making them dk instead of kd
09:28 whosthebox: yep
09:28 S a n d: I kinda think both way works, and I kinda like kkd D:
09:28 whosthebox: or you could change this 00:20:510 (93,94,95,96,97) -
09:28 S a n d: idk why D:, maybe clearer emphasize on d
09:29 whosthebox: to kkddk
09:29 whosthebox: the last 5 notes
09:29 whosthebox: i think the last note in the stream must be a k
09:29 S a n d: kkddk works too
09:29 S a n d: Yep, changed
09:30 whosthebox: 00:21:410 (101) -
09:30 whosthebox: sounds a lot better as d
09:31 whosthebox: 00:21:710 (104) - and this one as k
09:31 S a n d: That works too I ugess
09:32 S a n d: Changed both :3!
09:32 whosthebox: 00:25:510 (141) - maybe a k?
09:32 whosthebox: the pitch is high in that part till the last note in that stream
09:33 whosthebox: in that way you can enphatyze that
09:33 S a n d: Mhm....... it works, changed :3!
09:33 whosthebox: 00:25:910 (144) - this one as in the other streams, d
09:33 whosthebox: 00:26:910 (154,155,156,157,158) - and that one too, kkddk
09:34 whosthebox: it's not bad
09:34 whosthebox: not at all
09:34 S a n d: All changed before you even mentioned it :3
09:34 S a n d: <3
09:34 whosthebox: there are some hitsounds that can be moved, or improved
09:34 whosthebox: but the beatmap is pretty good
09:34 S a n d: <3
09:34 whosthebox: 00:27:810 (162) -
09:35 S a n d: :OOOOOO
09:35 whosthebox: and 00:28:110 (165) -
09:35 whosthebox: as in the other stream too
09:35 whosthebox: first d and second k
09:35 S a n d: Yeh, all of them were changed before you even mentioned them XD
09:35 whosthebox: cool
09:35 whosthebox: mind reading skills
09:35 S a n d: lel, it's just duplicate.
09:35 whosthebox: this is going to hurt me
09:35 whosthebox: i fucking love 1/6 streams
09:35 whosthebox: but i do not hear any 1/6 there
09:36 whosthebox: just, convert that 1/6
09:36 S a n d: 1/6 doesn't must be used when there is 1/6 sounds
09:36 whosthebox: i know
09:36 S a n d: It could be used as a stronger emphasize
09:36 S a n d: Especially when moving to next section.
09:37 whosthebox: if you want to keep it
09:37 whosthebox: try making everything k excepting the last one
09:37 whosthebox: let me puush it
09:37 whosthebox: 1 sexc
09:37 whosthebox: sec*
09:38 whosthebox: http://puu.sh/ladzd/682a81c1e4.jpg
09:38 whosthebox: it sounds a lot better
09:38 S a n d: Why D:?
09:39 whosthebox: as in the other stream, the pitch is high in that part
09:39 whosthebox: remember the kkkdk?
09:39 whosthebox: it's the same stream
09:39 S a n d: Fine I guess D:
09:39 whosthebox: try it
09:39 whosthebox: if you don't like it, you can refuse
09:39 whosthebox: i'm not forcing you to do it
09:39 whosthebox: none of my mods are forced
09:39 whosthebox: i'm not that kind of modder
09:39 S a n d: I changed it lol
09:39 whosthebox: mine are all suggestions
09:39 whosthebox: like it? add it
09:40 whosthebox: don't like it? screw it
09:40 S a n d: Added :3!
09:40 whosthebox: i'm not gonna get mad <3
09:40 whosthebox: here
09:40 whosthebox: 00:33:310 (216,217,218,219,220) -
09:40 whosthebox: see that?
09:40 whosthebox: you used kkddk here
09:40 whosthebox: and it's the same as before
09:40 S a n d: Yeah ikik XD, I get it I get it <3
09:40 whosthebox: it's a bit tedious
09:41 whosthebox: but sometimes, recheck those parts
09:41 whosthebox: i've been annoyed a lot
09:41 whosthebox: with that consistency shit
09:41 whosthebox: even if it means copy/pasting the same crap 5 times
09:41 S a n d: Whelp, what next :3?
09:42 S a n d: qwq I'm always worried that players would get bored
09:42 whosthebox: i never got bored with any of your maps yet
09:42 whosthebox: and i'm modding one of yours
09:42 whosthebox: thing that's pretty uncommon
09:42 whosthebox: i'm usually extremely lazy to mod
09:42 whosthebox: :^)
09:42 S a n d: oooooooooooooooo
09:42 S a n d: ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
09:43 whosthebox: go check my forum posts
09:43 S a n d: w....w....wtb senpai.......d...d...do you want to marry me ><?
09:43 whosthebox: HAHAAHAHA
09:43 whosthebox: i usually like your beatmaps, and this one is actually pretty cool
09:43 whosthebox: and undertale, and stuff
09:43 S a n d: wtf did u do
09:43 whosthebox: and i couldn't resist to mod
09:43 whosthebox: and think about the laziness thing i said
09:44 whosthebox: i'm only modding inner oni (for now)
09:44 whosthebox: and IRC
09:44 S a n d: Oh XD
09:44 whosthebox: i don't want to write anything on the forum :B
09:44 whosthebox: you could say
09:44 whosthebox: i'm a lazybones
09:44 whosthebox: *insert sans face here*
09:45 S a n d: *ba dum tss
09:45 whosthebox: xD
09:45 S a n d: You can still get kd tho :3
09:45 whosthebox: i know, don't worry
09:45 whosthebox: but do not give me yet
09:45 whosthebox: i'll probably mod the other diffs after this
09:45 whosthebox: i can't resist
09:45 whosthebox: i have this urge to mod
09:46 whosthebox: and this is something really rare
09:46 S a n d: so naice /w\/w\/w\/w\/w\
09:46 whosthebox: well, what's next¡
09:46 whosthebox: ?
09:47 whosthebox: here
09:47 whosthebox: 00:34:110 (223) -
09:47 whosthebox: d maybe?
09:47 S a n d: Changed :3~
09:47 whosthebox: 00:35:710 (238) - k?
09:48 whosthebox: and 00:36:010 (241) - this one sounds better as d
09:48 S a n d: The k one is unchanged ;w;
09:48 whosthebox: no problemo
09:48 S a n d: d changed :3!
09:49 whosthebox: 00:36:410 (245,246) - those two are kd
09:49 whosthebox: imo, sounds better as dk
09:49 S a n d: Indeed
09:49 S a n d: Changed :3!
09:50 whosthebox: 00:40:510 (284) - d, as before
09:50 S a n d: Yep, already got that
09:50 whosthebox: some streams repeat here as well, check them out for the changes
09:51 whosthebox: THAT 1/6 is beautiful
09:52 S a n d: Fixed all the repeated ones :3
09:52 S a n d: IKR
09:52 whosthebox: 00:45:810 (336) -
09:52 whosthebox: sounds better as a d
09:53 S a n d: Unchanged ;w;, idk why, but I kinda like the dynamic with k and d mixed together
09:53 whosthebox: no problemo
09:53 S a n d: Like, I just can deal with things like dddddddddddk
09:53 S a n d: I must do something like kkddddkkkdddddk
09:53 S a n d: Or kkdkkdkkdkkdk
09:53 S a n d: Like I JUST CAN"T MAKE IT BORING
09:53 S a n d: IDK WHY
09:53 S a n d: NUUUUUU
09:54 whosthebox: you want it spicy
09:54 whosthebox: i understand
09:54 whosthebox: 00:46:910 -
09:54 whosthebox: there is sound
09:54 whosthebox: try adding a k
09:54 S a n d: Added :3!
09:55 whosthebox: and if you're following that pattern
09:55 whosthebox: i think that 00:47:110 (348,349,350) - must be ddk instead of kkd
09:55 whosthebox: or kdk
09:56 whosthebox: 00:47:110 (348) - works fine both as d and k
09:56 whosthebox: so, use the one that you like the most
09:56 S a n d: I like kkd better for the first suggestion ;w;
09:57 whosthebox: no problemo mister
09:57 S a n d: So I guess it is untouched ;w;
09:57 whosthebox: yep
09:57 whosthebox: 00:50:210 (375,376) -
09:57 whosthebox: sounds A LOT better as dk instead of kd
09:57 S a n d: Yep! With the kd before, indeed
09:59 whosthebox: 00:51:210 (385,386) - kd instead of dk?
09:59 whosthebox: nonoo
09:59 whosthebox: wait wait
09:59 whosthebox: 00:50:910 (382,383,384,385,386) - kdkkd?
09:59 S a n d: Didn't you broke the kkddk rule then?
09:59 whosthebox: nope, this part is different
09:59 whosthebox: try it
10:00 whosthebox: usually the highest pitch is in the last note of the stream
10:00 whosthebox: but not here
10:01 S a n d: Mhm..........
10:01 S a n d: I like the kkdkd in the end tho
10:01 whosthebox: kkdkd will be
10:02 S a n d: Nice :3
10:02 whosthebox: 00:53:710 (406) -
10:02 whosthebox: sounds better as k
10:02 S a n d: Changed :3!
10:03 whosthebox: 00:55:210 (419) - remove it and tell me if you like it
10:04 S a n d: Yep :3! Though it doesn't follow the consistency of the patterns, but dat worked well :3
10:04 whosthebox: :nailedit:
10:05 whosthebox: 00:56:610 (430,431) -
10:05 whosthebox: as before, dk instead of kd
10:06 S a n d: Yep, already changed before.
10:07 whosthebox: puushing some stuff
10:07 whosthebox: 1 sec
10:08 whosthebox: starting from here
10:08 whosthebox: 00:57:910 (443) -
10:08 whosthebox: try something like this
10:08 whosthebox: http://puu.sh/laeLP/3469b50637.jpg
10:09 S a n d: works oooooo
10:09 S a n d: should I do that to all?
10:09 whosthebox: if you do that, 00:58:610 (450) - should be removed
10:09 S a n d: Yep, changed :3
10:10 whosthebox: 01:00:110 (463) -
10:10 whosthebox: k?
10:11 S a n d: Changed :3!
10:11 whosthebox: 01:01:610 (476) - same as before, remove
10:11 whosthebox: do you see? the map is not bad at all
10:11 whosthebox: what am i doing? i'm just giving some minor suggestions
10:11 S a n d: With this many mods? Idk XD
10:11 whosthebox: think
10:11 S a n d: Yep, done it :3
10:12 whosthebox: am i suggesting to change some hitsounds or am i saying to rework the whole map?
10:12 whosthebox: all i'm modding is some hitsounds, nothing else
10:12 whosthebox: so far, 2 notes removed
10:12 S a n d: But.....most mods are like that D:
10:13 whosthebox: believe me not all are like this
10:13 whosthebox: there are some bad maps
10:13 whosthebox: that need lots of mods
10:13 whosthebox: and even a full rework
10:13 whosthebox: i had to rework one completely :^)
10:13 S a n d: The first time I saw LTL's map was uhhh
10:13 S a n d: Internet Bitch
10:13 S a n d: and Bakafire told me
10:14 S a n d: If you really don't like it, feel free to say remap
10:14 S a n d: and I actually did........
10:14 whosthebox: lol
10:14 S a n d: I felt so bad.......
10:14 whosthebox: i have 2 ranked GD's in a map
10:14 whosthebox: i had to rework the muzu once
10:14 whosthebox: and the oni twice :^)
10:14 whosthebox: i never tried to rank a map since then
10:15 S a n d: LOL
10:15 whosthebox: well, recently, i'm wanting to do so, but, i always leave the mapset half finished
10:15 S a n d: Rank a set, then you get an extra slot for uploading, how nice.
10:15 whosthebox: lazyness to the max :^)
10:15 whosthebox: i'll rank something someday
10:16 S a n d: Ikr, how much I wish I could just rank an Oni without anything else and doesn't have to be 5 min long
10:16 whosthebox: HAHAH
10:16 whosthebox: check out my maps later
10:16 S a n d: Which one :3?
10:16 whosthebox: i have some 5 min+ long beatmaps
10:16 whosthebox: no, i mean
10:16 whosthebox: i usually map long songs
10:16 whosthebox: because i don't want to map the whole mapset
10:16 whosthebox: :^)
10:17 S a n d: But....
10:17 S a n d: for approval, you need 2 bubbles D:
10:17 whosthebox: yeah, i don't care
10:17 whosthebox: more diffs = more work
10:18 whosthebox: and that goes against the lazy rule
10:18 S a n d: But looking for BN is more painful.....
10:18 whosthebox: shut up
10:18 whosthebox: don't make me think about it
10:18 whosthebox: LALALALA
10:19 S a n d: LALALALALALALALA
10:19 whosthebox: xD
10:19 S a n d: Best song of the year
10:19 whosthebox: aiæ
10:20 whosthebox: 01:03:010 (487,488) -
10:20 whosthebox: i guess you already changed those two
10:21 S a n d: Actually I DIDN"T XDDDDD
10:21 whosthebox: lel
10:21 whosthebox: 01:05:310 (508,509,510,511,512) - kkddk?
10:22 S a n d: Changed :3~
10:23 whosthebox: 01:06:810 (522) -
10:23 whosthebox: this one as a d
10:23 whosthebox: 01:06:910 (523,524,525,526,527) - and this one as kkddk or kdkdkd
10:23 S a n d: First one unchanged ;w; CAN"TＬＩＶＥWITHＢＯＲＩＮＧPATTERNS
10:23 S a n d: kkddk :3
10:23 whosthebox: HAHAHAHAHA
10:24 whosthebox: 01:07:710 (530) -
10:24 whosthebox: try removing that one?
10:24 whosthebox: you were using a doblet usually in those parts
10:25 whosthebox: that kd dkkkd... part
10:25 S a n d: Yep :3!
10:25 whosthebox: consistency my friend
10:25 S a n d: Yeah, got it
10:26 whosthebox: try making this one 01:10:710 (558) - a d
10:27 S a n d: Changed :3!
10:27 whosthebox: 01:12:010 (568,569) - dk instead of kd?
10:28 S a n d: Yep, changed it :3
10:29 whosthebox: 01:14:210 (585,586) - both d?
10:30 S a n d: Changed :3!
10:30 whosthebox: 01:15:810 (597) - d
10:30 S a n d: Your mod is great, changed /w\
10:31 whosthebox: 01:16:810 (607,608) - you did this before, kd instead of dk
10:31 S a n d: Changed :3!
10:31 whosthebox: and it's not that greath tho, i'm just saying what could sound better for me
10:31 whosthebox: i repeat, this is pretty cool
10:31 whosthebox: it needs some hitsound changes, that's all
10:32 whosthebox: and they're not that much
10:32 S a n d: Well you know
10:32 S a n d: You can you know
10:32 S a n d: you know
10:32 S a n d: yeah you know
10:32 S a n d: If you really like this map
10:32 S a n d: that button
10:32 S a n d: yeah
10:32 S a n d: you know what that button is
10:32 whosthebox: LOL
10:32 S a n d: you know
10:32 whosthebox: i'll fave it, don't worry
10:33 whosthebox: i really like the song <3
10:33 S a n d: wtb can read mind /w\/w\/w\/w\
10:33 whosthebox: :^)
10:33 whosthebox: 01:21:510 (646) -
10:33 whosthebox: this one, sounds better as d
10:34 whosthebox: i'm sorry for attacking your simple pattern law
10:34 S a n d: NO
10:34 S a n d: THE BORNING PATTERN
10:34 whosthebox: lol
10:34 S a n d: NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
10:34 whosthebox: i really suggest you to change that one
10:34 *whosthebox stares
10:35 whosthebox: just kidding :^^)
10:35 S a n d: fak
10:35 S a n d: why ;w;?
10:35 whosthebox: double nose face
10:35 whosthebox: the legend
10:35 whosthebox: it sounds better FOR ME as a d
10:35 S a n d: Good
10:35 S a n d: No change then >wO
10:35 whosthebox: if you wanna keep it, do it
10:35 whosthebox: you know i won't get mad or anything
10:35 whosthebox: suggestions
10:35 S a n d: >wO
10:35 whosthebox: that's all
10:36 S a n d: :3 All right, no boring patterns
10:36 whosthebox: starting from here 01:23:510 (664) - try doing something like this http://puu.sh/lafV2/e8292ddb7b.jpg
10:37 whosthebox: i said you to do that before
10:37 whosthebox: it's the same part
10:37 S a n d: Changed ;3!
10:38 whosthebox: try removing this one
10:38 whosthebox: 01:25:610 (681) -
10:39 whosthebox: 01:25:610 (681) - making this one a k
10:39 whosthebox: wat
10:39 whosthebox: wait
10:39 whosthebox: 01:25:710 (681) -
10:39 whosthebox: this one a k
10:39 whosthebox: and add one d here 01:25:810 -
10:40 S a n d: It is k already tho?
10:40 whosthebox: http://puu.sh/lag5z/0c9061b4d8.jpg
10:40 whosthebox: something like that
10:40 S a n d: Oh
10:40 whosthebox: starting from here 01:25:410 (679) -
10:40 whosthebox: i should have puushed it from the beggining instead of making that mess :^)
10:41 S a n d: It works, I understood it lol
10:41 S a n d: Where else?
10:41 whosthebox: 01:27:110 (693) - as before, a d
10:42 S a n d: Got it
10:43 whosthebox: 01:30:110 (717) - r?
10:43 whosthebox: 01:30:410 (719) - r?
10:43 whosthebox: those two
10:43 whosthebox: you're using doblets in those parts too
10:44 S a n d: 01:30:111 - Deleted this
10:44 whosthebox: the second one not
10:45 whosthebox: cool
10:45 whosthebox: sounds better that way
10:45 S a n d: I guess that's it XD?
10:45 whosthebox: yeah, only one doublet
10:45 whosthebox: nice one
10:45 whosthebox: 01:30:510 (721) -
10:45 whosthebox: that one as a k, as always
10:46 S a n d: Changed :3!
10:46 whosthebox: 01:31:210 (727,728) -
10:46 whosthebox: dk instead of kd?
10:47 S a n d: Changed :3~
10:47 whosthebox: ROLF
10:47 whosthebox: I WAS CHECKING THE BEATMAP THREAD
10:47 whosthebox: http://puu.sh/lagoW/eff51447f2.jpg
10:47 whosthebox: DAT
10:47 S a n d: owo?
10:47 S a n d: and then owo?
10:47 S a n d: LOLLLLL
10:47 S a n d: Yeah XD
10:49 whosthebox: 01:33:310 (746) - r?
10:49 S a n d: Boring pattern.....
10:50 whosthebox: no problemo
10:50 whosthebox: 01:33:410 (747) - d?
10:51 whosthebox: ohhhh, i just realized (i'm not the best at consistency :^) ) 01:33:110 (744) - this one should be a d too, you did that earlier
10:51 S a n d: Changed both :3!
10:52 whosthebox: OHHHH, THAT CTRL+G SHIT
10:52 whosthebox: 01:35:010 (762,763) - CTRL+G THIS
10:54 S a n d: Applied :3!
10:54 whosthebox: 01:35:310 (765) - d?
10:54 S a n d: Yep :3
10:54 whosthebox: 01:36:310 - add a k here?
10:55 whosthebox: there is a clearly audible sound there
10:55 whosthebox: you'll get annoyed to death with that
10:55 whosthebox: if you don't map it
10:55 S a n d: Ik it is there
10:56 S a n d: But I was trying to give the sv change a break D:
10:56 whosthebox: it's inner oni
10:56 whosthebox: don't worry about it
10:56 S a n d: No
10:56 S a n d: My ripple had problems
10:56 whosthebox: and it's a 1 to 0.9 sv change
10:56 S a n d: So I guess I will do gradient sv fade
10:56 whosthebox: it's not that extreme
10:56 whosthebox: yeah, that will work too
10:56 whosthebox: but add something there
10:57 S a n d: Got it
10:58 whosthebox: 01:44:510 (803) - this finisher there will get you some problems with the mods too
10:58 whosthebox: keep it if you want it
10:58 whosthebox: but you'll probably get annoyed with that one too
10:59 whosthebox: 01:51:110 (823) - this one sounds better as k
10:59 S a n d: It won't? I thought kkD is allowed?
10:59 S a n d: Second suggestion applied
11:01 whosthebox: try making this http://puu.sh/lagZI/19aceaa73c.jpg
11:01 whosthebox: 01:58:310 (862) - starting from here
11:02 S a n d: Unchanged ;w;, I really like the kkddd ending so yeah
11:03 whosthebox: allright
11:03 whosthebox: 02:00:810 (885,886) - ctrl+g?
11:04 S a n d: Nice one :3
11:05 whosthebox: 02:02:910 (902) - k
11:05 S a n d: Another nice one, changed :3
11:06 whosthebox: 02:20:410 (1056) - k
11:06 S a n d: Unchanged ;w; I honestly think that part sounds better with kdd
11:07 whosthebox: no problemo
11:07 whosthebox: 02:22:110 (1073) - here, is the same as before, k
11:07 S a n d: Applied :3
11:07 whosthebox: 02:29:610 (1143,1144) - ctrl+g
11:08 whosthebox: and 02:30:110 (1148) - k
11:08 S a n d: I didn't apply the ctrl+g one D:
11:08 S a n d: Applied k one
11:08 whosthebox: aaaaaand the last one
11:09 whosthebox: i think this one 02:33:610 (1185) - should be removed
11:09 S a n d: All right, all done \:D//////////////////////
11:09 whosthebox: that's all

1. Should hyave a high HP due to new rules. 7 or higher. Futsuu should have it one below that.
2. 00:19:310 (16) - D? Same note as 00:22:510 (22) - , plus it looks nicer for it to be D if 00:17:710 (15) - is k.
   
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• Re-map these diffs in a way where you aren't desperately trying to use different rhythms. These are meant to be simple diffs; there is no need to keep newer players on their toes with changes that will probably just confuse them. Seriously, sometimes you have offbeat stuff, then go back to following drums or something, then you do weird stuff with doubles in futsuu.
  
  Not to mention that kiai is pretty terrible sounding in both diffs. I cannot tell what you are trying to follow.
  
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• The case is very similar here. What sounds are you trying to map to? I can understand the rhythms you're trying to map, but you change the notes so much that the sounds of the rhythms don't fir the song AT ALL. So much that it's actually distracting. You can have improvised rhythms, but if you get the same rhythm and make it into 40 different patterns, chances are that a ton of them will feel random and sound like shit.
  
  You start to do decent at the last kiai (with sounds). But even then you are mapping it way too complex for the spread you're trying to make.
  
  Overall, you need to re-assess this set with a much simpler mindset. This isn't as complex of a song as everyone wants it to be, you don't need to change stuff up so damn often.

• I don't think some ofthe 1/6 you have are very fitting. The ones like 02:03:510 (907,908,909,910) - are ok but the ones at 00:44:710 (326,327,328,329) - seem like they're just meant to fuck people over.

1. 00:18:610 (80,81) - These need to be 40% to 20% sounds nicer (and is more rankable lol)
   
   Even in this map 1st kiai is so weird. You randomly have those doubles, and then shit like 00:54:710 (416,417,418,419) - , I get that you're trying to map streams AND the little sounds, but that makes no sense to do when it's soooo minimal, I doubt anyone can even tell you're mapping to that.
   Then you choose to make the second half... easier? Don't you think it makes more sense that since the part before kiai was streams, that the intro to kiai should NOT be streams AND THEN the second part can be streams? Especially since the part after the kiai is calm, so the player can relax after hitting something hard.

OzzyOzrock wrote:

You'll have to try harder than that.

Mod

[Kantan]

1. Should hyave a high HP due to new rules. 7 or higher. Futsuu should have it one below that. Changed :3! Sure, I will hyave it
2. 00:19:310 (16) - D? Changed :3! Same note as 00:22:510 (22) - Unchanged ;w;... Not enough emphasize there, plus it looks nicer for it to be D if 00:17:710 (15) - is k. Yep
   
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[Kantan + Futsuu]

• Re-map these diffs in a way where you aren't desperately trying to use different rhythms. These are meant to be simple diffs; there is no need to keep newer players on their toes with changes that will probably just confuse them. Seriously, sometimes you have offbeat stuff, then go back to following drums or something, then you do weird stuff with doubles in futsuu. True that, remapped some rhythms.
  
  Not to mention that kiai is pretty terrible sounding in both diffs. I cannot tell what you are trying to follow. Sorry about that ;w;
  
  ... All remapped
  
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[Muzukashii + Oni]

• The case is very similar here. What sounds are you trying to map to? I can understand the rhythms you're trying to map, but you change the notes so much that the sounds of the rhythms don't fir the song AT ALL. So much that it's actually distracting. You can have improvised rhythms, but if you get the same rhythm and make it into 40 different patterns, chances are that a ton of them will feel random and sound like shit. i cri
  
  You start to do decent at the last kiai (with sounds). But even then you are mapping it way too complex for the spread you're trying to make.
  
  Overall, you need to re-assess this set with a much simpler mindset. This isn't as complex of a song as everyone wants it to be, you don't need to change stuff up so damn often. I was worried that people would get bored ;w;w;w;w;
  
  Remapped a lot in Muzu and Oni, ty for pointing it out

[Inner Oni]

• I don't think some ofthe 1/6 you have are very fitting. The ones like 02:03:510 (907,908,909,910) - are ok but the ones at 00:44:710 (326,327,328,329) - seem like they're just meant to fuck people over. Unchanged unless necessary ;w;... kinda want to fuck people over XD but the main reason is because you can hear the "phsewww" sound in the background, it makes a great clear transition to the next section imo

1. 00:18:610 (80,81) - These need to be 40% to 20% sounds nicer (and is more rankable lol) Changed :3!
   
   Even in this map 1st kiai is so weird. You randomly have those doubles, and then shit like 00:54:710 (416,417,418,419) - , I get that you're trying to map streams AND the little sounds, but that makes no sense to do when it's soooo minimal, I doubt anyone can even tell you're mapping to that.
   Then you choose to make the second half... easier? Don't you think it makes more sense that since the part before kiai was streams, that the intro to kiai should NOT be streams AND THEN the second part can be streams? Especially since the part after the kiai is calm, so the player can relax after hitting something hard.

Remapped :3!

I only wanted to give this map my thoughts. I was in a rude mood writing all this so sorry about that. But yeah, if I had just chosen to try and mod this, it would have been useless for everyone.

1. Only needs a nerf in the intro and breaks in the first kiai.
   
2. The intro should probably lose some notes
3. I recommend 00:21:510 (20,21) - delete these for all, as Muzu makes a big jump from Futsuu so spread evens up a bit.
   
   Good spots for breaks:
4. 01:09:710 (94,95) - This would be a good spot, but I can't tell if 01:10:110 (95) - should be at 01:10:910, or if 00:57:710 (75,76,77) - this part was a mistake xd
5. 01:22:510 - Won't need a break here, the one at the end is fine.
   
6. 00:56:110 (73) - k? Since 5 dons in a row! Look for other spots like these.

1. Here, what you're missing is also breaks, but these are different breaks. It's a futsuu, so continuous patterns are NOT ok. That's for Muzukashii.
   
   Good spots:
2. 00:30:510 (54,55,56,57,58) - Making this k _ _ k would be a good 'long' break.
3. 00:43:310 (82,83,84,85,86) - ^ Same (more like d _ _ k) and leads into kiai.
   
4. 00:46:910 (93) - Deleting these, and doing that for almost all these parts is much more like a futsuu. It was ok to have a lot of notes earlier, because there was a big gap between then. Now that it's constant 1/1, we need to fix it up.
5. 00:50:110 (101) - ^ (That means you delete allllll of these.)
6. 00:53:310 (109) - ^ (....alllllllllllllllllll......)

1. Well luckily the only problems are in this diff now. I think it's still too close to Oni (go to any kiai, and switch between Muzukashii and Oni, you'll notice). Since Oni is a LOT simpler now, you should try to re-make Muzukashii in a way where it's more challenging than Futsuu (like using 1/2 x _ _ x _ _ x stuff) but not going heavy on 1/4 except for rare parts where Oni seems hard.

1. It's the song's fault, but the last kiai is the best example of how I'd like to see this Oni. Obviously, that's hard to do since the rhythm there is much more easy to map to.
   
2. 1st kiai and the part with the preview point could look cleaner, but that's not a big problem.
   
3. 00:54:110 (45) - Move to 00:54:010 ? I see you do this 3 other times in the kiai, but you don't really need it since you have those mini "breaks" at parts like 00:57:310 (60) - (which are good!)
4. 02:32:510 (89) - Maybe just a slider? Ending on those three notes feels kinda weird?

• Structure makes much more sense, gj!

OzzyOzrock wrote:

[Kantan]

1. Only needs a nerf in the intro and breaks in the first kiai.
   
2. The intro should probably lose some notes
3. I recommend 00:21:510 (20,21) - delete these for all, as Muzu makes a big jump from Futsuu so spread evens up a bit. Changed :3! Removed all of similar pattern in Kantan
   
   Good spots for breaks:
4. 01:09:710 (94,95) - This would be a good spot, but I can't tell if 01:10:110 (95) - should be at 01:10:910, or if 00:57:710 (75,76,77) - this part was a mistake xd Changed :3! Removed the two notes you firstly mentioned and also added k at 01:10:910 to be consistent as what you mentioned
5. 01:22:510 - Won't need a break here, the one at the end is fine. Changed :3! All right, added a d
   
6. 00:56:110 (73) - k? Since 5 dons in a row! Look for other spots like these. Changed :3!

[Futsuu]

1. Here, what you're missing is also breaks, but these are different breaks. It's a futsuu, so continuous patterns are NOT ok. That's for Muzukashii.
   
   Good spots:
2. 00:30:510 (54,55,56,57,58) - Making this k _ _ k would be a good 'long' break. Changed :3!
3. 00:43:310 (82,83,84,85,86) - ^ Same (more like d _ _ k) and leads into kiai. Changed :3!
   
4. 00:46:910 (93) - Deleting these, and doing that for almost all these parts is much more like a futsuu. It was ok to have a lot of notes earlier, because there was a big gap between then. Now that it's constant 1/1, we need to fix it up. Changed :3!
5. 00:50:110 (101) - ^ (That means you delete allllll of these.) Changed :3!
6. 00:53:310 (109) - ^ (....alllllllllllllllllll......)

Changed :3! ALLLLLLLLL DELETED

[Muzukashii]

1. Well luckily the only problems are in this diff now. I think it's still too close to Oni (go to any kiai, and switch between Muzukashii and Oni, you'll notice). Since Oni is a LOT simpler now, you should try to re-make Muzukashii in a way where it's more challenging than Futsuu (like using 1/2 x _ _ x _ _ x stuff) but not going heavy on 1/4 except for rare parts where Oni seems hard.

Changed :3! Deleted a lot of 1/4 and some structural rearrangement, nerfed the diff a lot

[Oni]

1. It's the song's fault, but the last kiai is the best example of how I'd like to see this Oni. Obviously, that's hard to do since the rhythm there is much more easy to map to.
   
2. 1st kiai and the part with the preview point could look cleaner, but that's not a big problem. Removed 2 notes :3!
   
3. 00:54:110 (45) - Move to 00:54:010 ? I see you do this 3 other times in the kiai, but you don't really need it since you have those mini "breaks" at parts like 00:57:310 (60) - (which are good!) Changed :3! Ty
4. 02:32:510 (89) - Maybe just a slider? Ending on those three notes feels kinda weird?

Changed :3! Indeed

[Inner Oni]

• Structure makes much more sense, gj!

Ayyy ty /w\

After this (you won't mess up Muzu), the map should be much better to mod without it all being a waste of time GL!

_Gezo_ wrote:

gave a better mp3 (directly from the ost) yo

Raiden wrote:

S a n d stop spamming kudosu lol

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