okay, so, I have a LOT of questions about how good this is about to go, but here goes nothing
- First off, what's going to distinguish the new OT from the old OT? The people who frequent it, at the start, are going to be the same, and so will the mentality. I understand, in spirit, what a spring cleaning like this is supposed to mean, but what will it accomplish?
Which actual, new rules will you put in place to change the circlejerk mindset?
- This begs the question: who's going to enforce these rules? Will I or dkun get some sort of forum-silencing, or do we just continue serving as OT janitors and write down the repeat offenders for the modmins to check out?
WOJJIDEASI've considered for a long while to implement a new rule in OT that quoting posts by other people, without adding anything of merit outside the quote, will just get your post deleted when I catch it. I never got to actually enforcing it, but it could be a step away from the Offtopic-collective thought.
- Next, what's going to distinguish the new OT from GD? In Off-Topic being a typical user (which I mean with no bad intent, but I also do detest the "moe cookiezi >w<" "arrow to the knee XD" mentality) will get you a LOT of flak. Largely for lack of critical thinking, or at least lack of wanting to use your critical thinking on a forum. It might not look the part, but being a mature, accostable person who can form their own opinion is one of the biggest tools to garner respect in OT. I fear that breaking the forum open to a wider audience is going to invite a lot of people who mistake it for a spam forum, which will cause another whiplash from the regulars, and so on and so forth.
What's the goal in dispelling the circlejerk? Who do you want to help in doing so?
- Off-Topic now, is not a forum for everyone. It's this sort of smarmy column at the back of the osu! newspaper. A salt factory where you can take any shit about osu! - and about OT itself - with a grain of salt, and take a step back from all the drama for a moment. I get the point of breaking Off-Topic open for more people, but what's the current OT core going to do if you change the forum's intent, rules, AND audience?
Are you going to change OT's purpose anything? This is the most important question, we have to be on the same page here.
WOJJIDEASPerhaps an introductory post by the mods, explaining how OT works in an easy-to-understand manner would be in place? Off-Topic gets criticised often for being so purposeless, actually slapping the purpose on there, in big letters, will shut those people up too.
More wojjideas while I wait for your response
- I want to change forum games. Forum Games has some good threads which are, you know, actual games, but a LOT of bad threads. I propose adding THESE RULES to what constitutes a game: The posts in a forum game's thread must not be able to be predicted (to weed out the counting threads, etc.) and the posts in a forum game's thread must in some way be connected to one another (to weed out "post a number", or "post two words")
- Has there been any word yet on when we get advanced threadsculpting back? When a person makes a new thread which should actually go as a post, in an existing thread, it was a lot easier back when I could just merge them together and have the black magic done with. While I'm on it, I'd really like to be able to sticky and unsticky threads, but if that's a bridge too far so be it. Having access to the advanced MCP again would help my job immensely.
- Not being able to communicate this to the Off-Topic users is KILLING ME. I have always prided myself on being transparent and approachable in everything I moderate (something moderators in other parts of osu! can learn a thing or two from!) and therefor, I'm really worried about doing it on April 1st of all days. Try to let this entire cabal play out as clearly as possible, instead of being needlessly hush-hush about a major overhaul of the subforum. Is there any real reason, any at all, why I shouldn't share these changes with the public? If they know they're coming, they'll be prepared for them, I always think.