Sarcmark is always needed in these instances.Sirade wrote:
You just replied seriously to a sarcasm.
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Oh.Top Bunk wrote:
Sarcmark is always needed in these instances.Sirade wrote:
You just replied seriously to a sarcasm.
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You guys are weak, I have some #50 scores that came from not playing the map ever to 40-100 retries straight. No Kappa
That being said, if you always miss at the same spot and you just want a fc, I'd say that memorizing that spot and retrying doesn't hurt your consistency, it actually improves it. Unless you tilt easily.
Also to the people saying if you miss the first 20 notes stop playing.... I have TONS and TONS of scores from multiplayer that I ended up missing on the first 50 notes and fced the rest. On maps that have an easy beginning. It happens so often to me that when I play multi I just need to accept that I might never fc the start of a map.
That being said, if you always miss at the same spot and you just want a fc, I'd say that memorizing that spot and retrying doesn't hurt your consistency, it actually improves it. Unless you tilt easily.
Also to the people saying if you miss the first 20 notes stop playing.... I have TONS and TONS of scores from multiplayer that I ended up missing on the first 50 notes and fced the rest. On maps that have an easy beginning. It happens so often to me that when I play multi I just need to accept that I might never fc the start of a map.
What if the missed spot is rarely ever the same spot. I'm one of those players who always ends up with a miss in a different spot. That's also part of why I tend to retry too often, because I feel like I shouldn't have gotten that miss. So I'll get past it fine the next time, but then miss on a part that I didn't miss on the last several tries.tfg50 wrote:
You guys are weak, I have some #50 scores that came from not playing the map ever to 40-100 retries straight. No Kappa
That being said, if you always miss at the same spot and you just want a fc, I'd say that memorizing that spot and retrying doesn't hurt your consistency, it actually improves it. Unless you tilt easily.
Also to the people saying if you miss the first 20 notes stop playing.... I have TONS and TONS of scores from multiplayer that I ended up missing on the first 50 notes and fced the rest. On maps that have an easy beginning. It happens so often to me that when I play multi I just need to accept that I might never fc the start of a map.
Also, I never really understood tilting. Like, is it even possible for me to tilt when I play while laying down in bed.
The whole missing on the first 20 notes comes from it happening after retrying way too often. In multiplayer you only have one shot at the song, so you're forced to play through any mistakes regardless. If you got misses within the first 20 notes from only playing the map a few times playing on your own, then I'd say go ahead and keep trying. But if you were capable of getting past it the first 15 times or so that you played the map and THEN you keep screwing up, then it's time to take a break or move onto a different song. There's no sense in continuing the same thing over and over again if you can clearly tell yourself you're getting worse at it and know that it's not helping any to keep retrying.
There is a time and place for retrying, but 1) you shouldnt do it often, it should be for a play that will get you one of your top ranks and take less than 20 retries 2) understand what you want to gain, do you want short term pp gain, or do you want to get as good as you possibly can at the game. If the former, go ahead and retry all the time, if the latter, you should only rarely retry
Tilting refers to a state of emotional frustration in which a player adopts a less than optimal strategy, usually resulting in the player becoming over-aggressive. Basically you get pissed off because you missed a hitcircle you felt you shouldn't have missed and it affects your future gameplay.Top Bunk wrote:
Also, I never really understood tilting. Like, is it even possible for me to tilt when I play while laying down in bed.
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Oh, that makes sense. Thanks for the explanation.Minhtam wrote:
Tilting refers to a state of emotional frustration in which a player adopts a less than optimal strategy, usually resulting in the player becoming over-aggressive. Basically you get pissed off because you missed a hitcircle you felt you shouldn't have missed and it affects your future gameplay.Top Bunk wrote:
Also, I never really understood tilting. Like, is it even possible for me to tilt when I play while laying down in bed.
Unrelated, but had to comment. Umi best grill.
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Are you improving with each retry?
If so, keep trying.
If not, finish the song once and move to the next map.
If so, keep trying.
If not, finish the song once and move to the next map.
Plays through a song 31 times (exactly) > shit miss 4th from last note
Plays through same song 5 more times > shit miss 3rd from last note
Puts on SD and plays song ~10 more times> body decides not to tap on the very last note
I'd say not to retry in the middle of a song, cause if you're like me your body's just gonna be like [insert tf2 engineer NOPE img here]
Plays through same song 5 more times > shit miss 3rd from last note
Puts on SD and plays song ~10 more times> body decides not to tap on the very last note
I'd say not to retry in the middle of a song, cause if you're like me your body's just gonna be like [insert tf2 engineer NOPE img here]
Retry if you are playing seriously and competitive.
Do not retry if you are playing for fun and relaxing.
That should sum most of them.
Do not retry if you are playing for fun and relaxing.
That should sum most of them.
In a tournament you don't get to retry maps, you only get to practice them beforehand. So if you are really trying to practice for competitive play you should keep retries per day low and do most of your retrying on successive days.Sirade wrote:
Retry if you are playing seriously and competitive.
Do not retry if you are playing for fun and relaxing.
That should sum most of them.
I agree though, if you are farming you should retry until you start playing worse or are making 0 improvement.
With that said, farming typically involves playing maps that you are *mostly* comfortable with until you can make it through the hardest part which means the time spent playing sections outside your comfort zone is minimal. On top of that, if you manage to pass the hardest section merely due to map specific muscle memory from a large number of retries it isn't as valuable as general muscle memory/reading you get from playing many different "hardest sections."
Basically the more successive retries you put into a map the less beneficial it is for your improvement and it results in less consistency (defined by number of plays it takes before you always achieve a "good" rank on a map).
Oh well, forgot to include different cases of retry in my post.
go onSirade wrote:
Oh well, forgot to include different cases of retry in my post.
No, I'm lazy.Hey_its_Neji wrote:
go onSirade wrote:
Oh well, forgot to include different cases of retry in my post.
