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Raging Bull
Is ace from MS?
Raging Bull
I would believe slaini would be sent to kill animak instead since jess killed pie because she was scum read by pie.
notscience
I think he's from here first.

He has no games on MS that I can discuss.
Raging Bull
Actually scratch that last part. Wouldnt make sense.

Ace fits more of a "didnt expect protective" part. He said that somewhere where he thinks a doc shouldnt have existed.
notscience
Lets suppose slaini is telling the truth and heard these sounds

Who the fuck targetted him then
sLaiNi
In Newbie 9 (?) He stated that he played it IRL with friends but never in forums.


If NS is town, I'd feel like he was targeted be scum. I don't see them target me and escpecially I don't see any protective town target me.
Raging Bull
Zzzz god i just refuse to believe it right now. It cant be that stupid. Yet no one also claimes to have targetted slaini.
sLaiNi
Ace, did it explicitly say "You heard one sound but you cane make out if it is from above or below"

Or did you hear like "You heard sounds"
Raging Bull
Actually, why cant it be scum that targetted slaini with a noise role?のの
MBomb

sLaiNi wrote:

Ace, did it explicitly say "You heard one sound but you cane make out if it is from above or below"

Or did you hear like "You heard sounds"
Ace Timing, remember to not exactly quote the role pm here. That can get you mod killed (I know you probably wouldn't after Hoenn game but yeah just in case).
MBomb
Not role pm lmao, I meant the pm about sounds.
Setsuen

notscience wrote:

Do people think AT is actually that bad as scum that he'd scumslip like that?
Seeing that I caught Nyquil on a scum slip when no one even realised it in Chaos, I would say YES.

notscience wrote:

Lets suppose slaini is telling the truth and heard these sounds

Who the fuck targetted him then
Well no one unless you count drezi or possible scum who are neighbours.(Which would funnily enough include MB and me but anyone scum reading me after D1 and pie's read on me is trying for a desperate lylo lynch)

Raging Bull wrote:

Zzzz god i just refuse to believe it right now. It cant be that stupid. Yet no one also claimes to have targetted slaini.
I targeted not science and stole their vote! Look at the 2votes at drezi! I am tot double voter now.
Raging Bull
This is probably my last game till i leave Japan. I dont want to keep V/LAing every weekend nor do i want replacement.

Idk what are you doing setsun
Raging Bull
What do you think drezi did to slaini, setsuen
Setsuen

Raging Bull wrote:

What do you think drezi did to slaini, setsuen
drezi obv did a bodycheck up on slani plz. Or slani is lying and is scum.

and since I am going to sleep now(hurray for everchanging sleep schedule bc of school holiday)

Vote:slani

FEEL FREE TO COUNTERWAGON DREZI THOUGH.

Raging Bull wrote:

Idk what are you doing setsun
I am doing what I did on Perpetual MyLo on like D2. This game is tot awesome and fit for what I did D2 in that game. much shocking 10/10.
notscience
I'm of the opinion we have scum between the two so it doesn't matter who we lynch first.
Amianki
Whatever, really doesn't matter either way.

Vote: sLaiNi
Amianki
tbh I'm thinking notscience's theory is right.
sLaiNi
Do you just follow someone who actually stated that he doesn't care about a misslynch?


notscience wrote:

I'm frankly fine with just lynching AT/Slaini because one of them is going to flip scum.

Also Amianki jumping between their votes like nothing. Even after he actually confirmed that he used a nightability and Ace didn't mention the sounds.
Amianki
I confirmed that I used a night ability? I don't remember that.
sLaiNi

Amianki wrote:

I confirmed that I used a night ability? I don't remember that.
I told an assumption which relied on you doing a nightability, after that you start asking Ace if he is sure that he heard only my sounds lawl ^^
Drezi
Wait a sec... directionless noise? does that even exist? those who heard noises - didn't it explicitly say it's from above or from below?
sLaiNi

Drezi wrote:

Wait a sec... directionless noise? does that even exist? those who heard noises - didn't it explicitly say it's from above or from below?
For me it did.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 4.10

sLaiNi (4) - notscience, - Magic Bomb -, Setsuen, Amianki [L-1]
Ace Timing (2) - sLaiNi, Raging Bull

Not Voting (3) - Haneii, Drezi, Ace Timing

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
sLaiNi
If I get lynched, remember to never believe in Setsuens "OMG I am so smart believe and follow me" and "They didn't wanna 1o1 me" - sheesh.

Atleast one good thing to prove this.
sLaiNi
Also this "It is true because I had experience in game 'x' with it"


Setsuen wrote:

I am doing what I did on Perpetual MyLo on like D2. This game is tot awesome and fit for what I did D2 in that game. much shocking 10/10.
Amianki
sLaiNi, Setsuen always did this.
Amianki
ftr if you're town, don't point out stuff like the other thing ty
sLaiNi

Amianki wrote:

sLaiNi, Setsuen always did this.
First time I notice it, and people believe it, while most of the time it's just freaking bad as you'll see soon lawl
sLaiNi

Amianki wrote:

ftr if you're town, don't point out stuff like the other thing ty
It would only make sense if I am sure that you were town. I never said I think you must be town. You could also be scum using an investigative role and Ace did the kill.
sLaiNi
Also I think it's funny how people still believe I did the kill while accurately discribing how Ace AND Amianki must have used abilities, which got rather confirmed and which I couldn't know if I hadn't heard the sounds.

Whoever made people forget about this, gj
sLaiNi
sLaiNi (4) - notscience, - Magic Bomb -, Setsuen, Amianki [L-1]
Ace Timing (2) - sLaiNi, Raging Bull

Not Voting (3) - Haneii, Drezi, Ace Timing

Town:

MB, Haneii

Null - town:
Raging Bull

Null:
Setsuen
NS
Drezi (tending town after how she acted in the ende)

Scum:
Ace Timing
Amianki

Whereas Null would be the pool I'd pick of if one of my scumreads fail.
sLaiNi
Last thing to add:

Ace is like 100% scum for me, whereas Amianki is not about 100%, but in comparison to all others he is the highest possibility to be scum.
Amianki
ok
Drezi
waaah don't lynch slaini suddenly I'm feeling really bad about this.
Drezi
Haneii has been bolded. she hasn't heard noises, even though supposedly she should have from RB correct? Ace heard a directionless noise which shouldn't exist normally I think?.

Is there possibly a connection here?
Drezi
damn I can't make sense of it either way especially with no NK taking place
MBomb
ok good i would've been pissed if someone hammered whilst i wasn't here
MBomb
Unvote

Until Haneii votes someone. I still want to see if either they have a double vote or no vote, today, as that seems like a possible theory to me. If not then this will be unknown as to why this happened until the end of the game, probably.
Topic Starter
Sakura
6 hours until deadline
Vote Count 4.11

sLaiNi (3) - notscience, Setsuen, Amianki [L-2]
Ace Timing (2) - sLaiNi, Raging Bull

Not Voting (4) - Haneii, Drezi, Ace Timing, - Magic Bomb -

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
Drezi
oh shit, well lynch Ace or Slaini for sure, but I think I might prefer Ace with that directionless thing not making much sense to me and having scumread him D1..
Drezi
Vote: Ace Timing
Drezi
I've been getting a towny feeling from Slaini's latest posts and there's MB voting him who I've scumread aswell + still not trusting notsci either, and slaini lynch would leave him neighbourless so yeah.
notscience
You've got to be fucking kidding me.

MB put your vote back on slaini and go check an earlier VC. I'm almost positive he had a vote earlier in the day.

Yolo last second wagon is a bad idea.
notscience
You're not trusting me like you chose to choose Jess, right?
notscience
Let's play a game

It's called, why does slaini not have a single townread who is voting him?
Drezi
the fuck are you talking about Jess
notscience
Those people who aren't voting or are trying to start a last second yolowagon or unvoting for infomation thats already in the thread need some serious limelight tomorrow.

Jeezus.
notscience
I'm talking about you whiteknighting th everliving fuck out of her
Drezi
You've said you're fine with either Ace or slaini so what's this sudden change of heart now?
notscience
Because a wagon suddenly losing all its steam around deadline (a la jess d2) is sketchy as fuck.
Drezi
Lol he's still at L-1 for all intents and purposes, MB just unvoted because he's being careful now for whatever reason after saini's been at L-1 for a while already.
notscience
I stand corrected, Haneii hasn't voted all day.

Regardless, there's also the whole "one of the doublevoters is scum" thing.
Drezi
Ace is one too.
notscience
And this gets back to if slaini flips town we can lynch ace tomorrow!
Drezi
and the opposite is not true because? I'd rather you have a neighbour.
notscience
Here's my question for you, drezi

Noone's claimed to have targetted slaini.

Do you think a scumteam with ace is likely to kill him? Because I don't.
notscience
Now you're just looking for excuses not to lynch slaini holy fuck.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 4.12

sLaiNi (3) - notscience, Setsuen, Amianki [L-2]
Ace Timing (3) - sLaiNi, Raging Bull, Drezi [L-2]


Not Voting (3) - Haneii, Ace Timing, - Magic Bomb -

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
sLaiNi

notscience wrote:

Here's my question for you, drezi

Noone's claimed to have targetted slaini.

Do you think a scumteam with ace is likely to kill him? Because I don't.
And Ace hasn't had any good explanation to why he didn't hear any sounds correctly, which is even a proof, while everything to me is just speculation.

Why are you so desperately trying to have no neighbour.
notscience
Look how slaini is responding to me.

It's all woe is me, throwing everything he can to hope it gets him out of a lynch.

But that's somehow something town would do?
Drezi
Are you kidding me, have you even read my exchange with him. You're the one who's "fine with lynching either Ace or slaini":

notscience wrote:

I'm frankly fine with just lynching AT/Slaini because one of them is going to flip scum.
but doesn't want Ace lynched the slightest in practice.
notscience
Because given what I've seen, I expect ace to get lynched, me to die, and then you all to give slaini a pass.

So fuck that noise.
Drezi
Slaini is still L-1, I simply placed a vote generating some good discussion and you're panicking for no reason :^)
notscience
Because it's almost time for deadline and someone unvoted then disappeared and everyone else seems to be awol?

But sure.

I panic due to you.
notscience
Well guys I'm going to go lurk so drezi townreads me, see you after 5 prods!
Drezi
weak
notscience
Like your reasons to not be voting slaini

And your townread on jess

right?
Drezi
just like your scumread on Jess, if you actually knew that she's equally useless as town aswell.
Drezi
noise is fine, but I had been scumreading your slot so it wasn't saying much for me.
sLaiNi

notscience wrote:

Like your reasons to not be voting slaini

And your townread on jess

right?
Because I got prod twice, one of that being 1 month ago?
Drezi
And it's like double bullshit, I don't have any strong reasons not to be voting slaini and will do it if it takes me to change my vote to get a lynch today, and I didn't really have a townread on Jess, as much as a scumread on someone else, who I felt would've been a better lynch informationwise aswell.
Drezi
But I guess reading comprehension isn't your strength, because you've been misrepping me whole game.
MBomb
If it goes another hour and Haneii still isn't here, I'm putting my vote back on slaini (Or Ace if you convince me otherwise).
sLaiNi

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

If it goes another hour and Haneii still isn't here, I'm putting my vote back on slaini (Or Ace if you convince me otherwise).
Be so free and explain why me instead of Ace.
Amianki
This drezi vs notscience thing is completely pointless.

Can we just not continue it, thanks.
sLaiNi
Actually this thing decides who gets lynched . And if it doesn't decide it soon, we'll end up lynching no-one which is the worst that can happen.

I really have to go to sleep as I got ill and I don't want to let this state last longer as necessary.


Last reminder:

If people don't realize that Ace is the better lynch, then please all jump over to me before a nolynch can happen (I would myself but I'm sleeping by then)

And second:
Drezi is town and I don't get NS' tunneling, that seems really scummy especially given the fact that he'll be unbearable by then. If he's scum then its Gg. But he is much to obviously tunneling for a scum I guess.
sLaiNi
'Unhearable not unbearable
MBomb
Ok, decided.

Vote: Ace
notscience
vote ace

We're lynching slaini tomorrow.

Jeezus fucknig christ.
notscience
ATTENTION

IF I DIE

YOU LYNCH SLAINI

IF IM ALIVE

YOU LYNCH SLAINI

IF YOU DONT LYNCH SLAINI AFTER ACE FLIPS TOWN, WE DESERVE TO LOSE

that is all.
Drezi
are you saying he'll flip town?
notscience
No, I'm saying you haven't actually read what I've been posting today.
Drezi

notscience wrote:

AFTER ACE FLIPS TOWN
notscience
But anyways, here's probably what happens

TOmorrow comes, slaini gets to L-1

You all wimp out again and lynch ank or something

Scum wins

Slaini is scum

"oh man you totally got us!"
notscience
Congratulations, you can quote my posts.

for someone so big into accusations over reading comprehension, you sure have trouble comprehending my stance on slaini vs ace.
Drezi
omg I'm well aware what's your stance, but as far as I'm concerned this wording is not conditional, and given you've been strongly agaisnt an Ace lynch lately I specifically asked if you're expecting him to flip town now...
Drezi
BUT I GUESS SUCH COMPLICATED INTRICACIES ARE TOO DAMN HARD TO FIGURE OUT ON YOUR OWN WITHOUT ME SPELLING IT OUT. for fucks sake you're goddamn irritating.
notscience
Yes.

Because slaini's woe is me is scummy as fuck, but you guys are buying it so there's nothing I can do with 3 hours to go.
notscience
You're one to talk.
notscience
It's nothing ace is doing so much as it's what slaini is doing, because I don't think both of them are scum. I think Slaini is scum whose buddy targetted ace with a scrambler thing. If they were scum together, slaini wouldn't have claimed to have heard anything, or they could have had ace kill amianki or something, but they didn't. So they aren't scum together, which is why I think that ace is town.
Drezi

notscience wrote:

Yes.

so there's nothing I can do with 3 hours to go.
I guess waiting if Ace actually decided to post something about stuff that happened was something we couldn't afford.
notscience
I don't trust people to hammer, given the no lynch day 2.

And pretty much everyone on ace's wagon seems pretty dead set in believing slaini, so I doubt he would have ended up the lynch regardless.
Drezi
If you're around, you don't need someone else.

Also I said I'd be willing to vote slaini if we aren't lynching Ace.
notscience
I, in all honesty, didn't believe you would.
Drezi
Also like "intent to hammer" so we can react before is pretty standard I think.
notscience
We knew he was a doublevoter.
Drezi
The fact that you say you're willing to hammer him too can change stuff, especially in a situation like this where we have two very viable wagons. Not saying it would've happened, but it's a possibility.
notscience
I know it could have.

But given the activity, I aired on the side of caution.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Final Vote Count Day 4

Ace Timing (5) - sLaiNi, Raging Bull, Drezi, - Magic Bomb -, notscience [LYNCH!]
sLaiNi (2) - Setsuen, Amianki

Not Voting (2) - Haneii, Ace Timing

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
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