Well you don't have to vote, but I will almost definitely put you very high on my scumread list if you don't. Seems to me if you don't you're trying to hide something, for example a doublevote you can then pretend you "didn't know you had", or something like that.Haneii wrote:
I do feel a bit uneasy voting now, though (ie: bold name/top scum read asking me to vote). Should I? I do want to see a claim a day or so before dl.
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Vote for God's sake, what is the worst that could happen anyway?Haneii wrote:
I'll vote ace (MB + Ace are my main scum reads when I'm running under the assumption that scum chose not to kill last night. My read changes when I assume the kill was stopped. However, both scum reads include MB)
I do feel a bit uneasy voting now, though (ie: bold name/top scum read asking me to vote). Should I? I do want to see a claim a day or so before dl.
I'll vote soon. Just wanted you two to post. That was a lot quicker than I expected O_O
MBomb
Except Haneii already claimed to be a double voter for D3. Or was it someone else- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Well you don't have to vote, but I will almost definitely put you very high on my scumread list if you don't. Seems to me if you don't you're trying to hide something, for example a doublevote you can then pretend you "didn't know you had", or something like that.
MBomb
I'm thinking it might be the meaning of the bolded name, maybe some ability that gives someone a doublevote, or a motivator kind of role, that isn't detected for some reason I'm not sure of. To be honest I think the more likely idea is that if it's a sound not detected, someone stole Haneii's vote.Setsuen wrote:
Except Haneii already claimed to be a double voter for D3. Or was it someone else- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Well you don't have to vote, but I will almost definitely put you very high on my scumread list if you don't. Seems to me if you don't you're trying to hide something, for example a doublevote you can then pretend you "didn't know you had", or something like that.
Also @Mod: Prod ns please.
Maybe. I didn't hear sounds coming from any particular direction, I assumed it was slaini because notty also heard a sound, and could only have heard it from slaini. I can think of two scenarios to explain the peculiar occurrence of slaini hearing sounds from me.- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Ace, did you hear any sounds from Amianki?
1. Slaini is lying about hearing my sounds.
This is the most probable answer, which would very obviously make slaini scum trying to stall his own lynch.
2. Scum has a one shot ability that alters the sounds that are heard.
This is the more interesting one, and the main food for thought here is what the word alter means. It could mean that the sounds he hears are swapped with someone else, which would promote the question:
Who with?
The alternative would be his sounds are fabricated, as in scum forces him to hear something that he shouldn't have heard. This would probably make someone hear sounds, and would require another massclaim to discover the perpetrator, but massclaim should be avoided.
This setup is spooky.
@MB I've been thinking of what the bolded name could mean, and I thought of an interesting scenario: a one-shot arsonist. Think about it, if an arsonist douses someone, the person is usually notified, and this could be the notification, except in this case made public. Now the most immediate refusal to this would be, "but this didn't happen N1!". A possible explanation for this would be that the arsonist is mafia aligned, and scum decided to use tonight to perform two kills at once, but one was thwarted by a doctor, or the alternative that they simply chose not to perform the night kill because the goon that they could use to make kills without worrying about losing a power role is gone and they don't want to risk having someone hearing the nk. I'm sure there might be holes in this theory, feel free to point any out.
Why didn't you mention that the sound you heard was directionless?
He specifically mentioned that he hasn't heard sounds from me early in this day phase.
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I don't think I mentioned that they weren't.Haneii wrote:
Why didn't you mention that the sound you heard was directionless?
@MB he's talking about this. I was fairly sure the sounds I heard was from slaini, so I concluded that I didn't hear them from Amianki.Ace Timing wrote:
Based on the known roles now, the only available options I see are notty you and drezi. Neither of you indicate any sings of being a doctor except for you and I haven't heard any sounds from you.
Ace Timing wrote:
I don't think I mentioned that they weren't.Haneii wrote:
Why didn't you mention that the sound you heard was directionless?
And I'm not accusing you of that. I'm asking for your reason for keeping that information to yourself.
So you flat out lied and said you didn't hear any sounds from amianki?Ace Timing wrote:
@MB he's talking about this. I was fairly sure the sounds I heard was from slaini, so I concluded that I didn't hear them from Amianki.
I didn't have any particular reason to out such information.Haneii wrote:
And I'm not accusing you of that. I'm asking for your reason for keeping that information to yourself.
I made a reasonable conclusion.Haneii wrote:
So you flat out lied and said you didn't hear any sounds from amianki?Ace Timing wrote:
@MB he's talking about this. I was fairly sure the sounds I heard was from slaini, so I concluded that I didn't hear them from Amianki.
Say you hear this: "You heard jimmies being rustled, but you couldn't identify the source"
Now when the day starts, someone says, "I heard a sound from jeff"
You don't know who exactly made the sound, but based on this, you could reasonably conclude that you heard sounds from Jeff, even if there was a possible chance of you hearing craig.
So with this assumption in mind, you start an unrelated argument with andrew, and with your new assumption that Craig didn't make a sound because Jeff did, you make an argument involving assumption.
This is basically the situation. So I don't think I lied about it, but you may think otherwise.
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Amianki wrote:
Ace Timing what sounds did you hear again?
Ace Timing wrote:
The sound of slaini's jimmies being rustled.
You lied here. That is not the result you got last night. Amianki didn't ask for your interpretations.
However, scum admitting they deliberately withheld and manipulated information is odd.
Setsuen wrote:
If this was the cause shouldn't you suspect drezi since NO ONE can hear if he did any action at all?Raging Bull wrote:
Hey everyone, Why would scum slaini target someone after that lynch on jess d3? The only thing I can really think of is if he was targetted to shift blame on him. I find it highly unlikely given the fact if slaini is scum, then scum would make slaini kill, especially after NS heard sound from Jess.
@NS, why Slaini over AT when slaini heard sound from above him too?
Vote:Ace
I do? But the fact is unless you think haneii is scum, there should be a scum within ace or slaini.
Oh you were referring to the joke post. Well I did think I heard a sound from slaini, but I can see your point.Haneii wrote:
Amianki wrote:
Ace Timing what sounds did you hear again?Ace Timing wrote:
The sound of slaini's jimmies being rustled.
You lied here. That is not the result you got last night. Amianki didn't ask for your interpretations.
However, scum admitting they deliberately withheld and manipulated information is odd.
Topic Starter
Friendly remainder that there's about 16 hours until deadline.
notscience, Drezi and sLaiNi have been prodded!
notscience, Drezi and sLaiNi have been prodded!
Vote Count 4.09
sLaiNi (2) - notscience, - Magic Bomb -
Ace Timing (2) - sLaiNi, Raging Bull
Drezi (1) - Setsuen
Not Voting (4) - Haneii, Drezi, Ace Timing, Amianki
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
sLaiNi (2) - notscience, - Magic Bomb -
Ace Timing (2) - sLaiNi, Raging Bull
Drezi (1) - Setsuen
Not Voting (4) - Haneii, Drezi, Ace Timing, Amianki
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
Can we please hammer slaini.
And just so we're all clear, it's blatantly fucking obvious slaini's plan coming into today would be to kill me, and then claim to have heard AT and try to shove the lynch on him.
Me living threw a wrench in that.
Me living threw a wrench in that.
Now stop twiddling your thumbs and join this wagon.
If I come back after class and he's not lynched I'm going to start spamming pitch perfect quotes.
Actually, standby.
Prod taken. I was there all the time, just didn't post tbh
Why the hell are you so desperately trying to get me lynched. I never even tried to act in any way against you, as you were not acting like scum.
So I just posted a legit assumption including proves, Ace slipped with his sounds (and anyone who didn't notice it did not read the thread for the last 4 pages) and you don't even post your thoughts on it and say I'd be lynched for nothing you can accuse me for.
Why the hell are you so desperately trying to get me lynched. I never even tried to act in any way against you, as you were not acting like scum.
So I just posted a legit assumption including proves, Ace slipped with his sounds (and anyone who didn't notice it did not read the thread for the last 4 pages) and you don't even post your thoughts on it and say I'd be lynched for nothing you can accuse me for.
I'm frankly fine with just lynching AT/Slaini because one of them is going to flip scum.
Do people think AT is actually that bad as scum that he'd scumslip like that?
Note the above is a serious question.
Also, I formally acknowledge the woe is me.
Also, I formally acknowledge the woe is me.
slaini scum angle-
scum have an ability to make someone's hearing go wonky
Kills me, makes AT's hearing go wonky, ???
scum have an ability to make someone's hearing go wonky
Kills me, makes AT's hearing go wonky, ???
Idk, I'll look later.
Consolidate.
Consolidate.
I cant see scum making slaini do the kill or make sounda after jess. Why do you hve such bad tunnel vision
Because I think it's likely I was the target?
But if you were the likely target, what would have made scum risk it and still get slaini to do the kill? You cant see AT play scum that bad, but slaini can?
Because I don't think they expected a protective.
The same reason they sent Jess to kill pie.
The same reason they sent Jess to kill pie.
Is ace from MS?
I would believe slaini would be sent to kill animak instead since jess killed pie because she was scum read by pie.
I think he's from here first.
He has no games on MS that I can discuss.
He has no games on MS that I can discuss.
Actually scratch that last part. Wouldnt make sense.
Ace fits more of a "didnt expect protective" part. He said that somewhere where he thinks a doc shouldnt have existed.
Ace fits more of a "didnt expect protective" part. He said that somewhere where he thinks a doc shouldnt have existed.
Lets suppose slaini is telling the truth and heard these sounds
Who the fuck targetted him then
Who the fuck targetted him then
In Newbie 9 (?) He stated that he played it IRL with friends but never in forums.
If NS is town, I'd feel like he was targeted be scum. I don't see them target me and escpecially I don't see any protective town target me.
If NS is town, I'd feel like he was targeted be scum. I don't see them target me and escpecially I don't see any protective town target me.
Zzzz god i just refuse to believe it right now. It cant be that stupid. Yet no one also claimes to have targetted slaini.
Ace, did it explicitly say "You heard one sound but you cane make out if it is from above or below"
Or did you hear like "You heard sounds"
Or did you hear like "You heard sounds"
Actually, why cant it be scum that targetted slaini with a noise role?のの
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Ace Timing, remember to not exactly quote the role pm here. That can get you mod killed (I know you probably wouldn't after Hoenn game but yeah just in case).sLaiNi wrote:
Ace, did it explicitly say "You heard one sound but you cane make out if it is from above or below"
Or did you hear like "You heard sounds"
Seeing that I caught Nyquil on a scum slip when no one even realised it in Chaos, I would say YES.notscience wrote:
Do people think AT is actually that bad as scum that he'd scumslip like that?
Well no one unless you count drezi or possible scum who are neighbours.(Which would funnily enough include MB and me but anyone scum reading me after D1 and pie's read on me is trying for a desperate lylo lynch)notscience wrote:
Lets suppose slaini is telling the truth and heard these sounds
Who the fuck targetted him then
I targeted not science and stole their vote! Look at the 2votes at drezi! I am tot double voter now.Raging Bull wrote:
Zzzz god i just refuse to believe it right now. It cant be that stupid. Yet no one also claimes to have targetted slaini.
This is probably my last game till i leave Japan. I dont want to keep V/LAing every weekend nor do i want replacement.
Idk what are you doing setsun
Idk what are you doing setsun
What do you think drezi did to slaini, setsuen
drezi obv did a bodycheck up on slani plz. Or slani is lying and is scum.Raging Bull wrote:
What do you think drezi did to slaini, setsuen
and since I am going to sleep now(hurray for everchanging sleep schedule bc of school holiday)
Vote:slani
FEEL FREE TO COUNTERWAGON DREZI THOUGH.
I am doing what I did on Perpetual MyLo on like D2. This game is tot awesome and fit for what I did D2 in that game. much shocking 10/10.Raging Bull wrote:
Idk what are you doing setsun
I'm of the opinion we have scum between the two so it doesn't matter who we lynch first.
Whatever, really doesn't matter either way.
Vote: sLaiNi
Vote: sLaiNi
Do you just follow someone who actually stated that he doesn't care about a misslynch?
Also Amianki jumping between their votes like nothing. Even after he actually confirmed that he used a nightability and Ace didn't mention the sounds.
notscience wrote:
I'm frankly fine with just lynching AT/Slaini because one of them is going to flip scum.
Also Amianki jumping between their votes like nothing. Even after he actually confirmed that he used a nightability and Ace didn't mention the sounds.
I confirmed that I used a night ability? I don't remember that.
I told an assumption which relied on you doing a nightability, after that you start asking Ace if he is sure that he heard only my sounds lawl ^^Amianki wrote:
I confirmed that I used a night ability? I don't remember that.
Wait a sec... directionless noise? does that even exist? those who heard noises - didn't it explicitly say it's from above or from below?
For me it did.Drezi wrote:
Wait a sec... directionless noise? does that even exist? those who heard noises - didn't it explicitly say it's from above or from below?
Topic Starter
Vote Count 4.10
sLaiNi (4) - notscience, - Magic Bomb -, Setsuen, Amianki [L-1]
Ace Timing (2) - sLaiNi, Raging Bull
Not Voting (3) - Haneii, Drezi, Ace Timing
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
sLaiNi (4) - notscience, - Magic Bomb -, Setsuen, Amianki [L-1]
Ace Timing (2) - sLaiNi, Raging Bull
Not Voting (3) - Haneii, Drezi, Ace Timing
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
If I get lynched, remember to never believe in Setsuens "OMG I am so smart believe and follow me" and "They didn't wanna 1o1 me" - sheesh.
Atleast one good thing to prove this.
Atleast one good thing to prove this.
Also this "It is true because I had experience in game 'x' with it"
Setsuen wrote:
I am doing what I did on Perpetual MyLo on like D2. This game is tot awesome and fit for what I did D2 in that game. much shocking 10/10.
ftr if you're town, don't point out stuff like the other thing ty
First time I notice it, and people believe it, while most of the time it's just freaking bad as you'll see soon lawlAmianki wrote:
sLaiNi, Setsuen always did this.
It would only make sense if I am sure that you were town. I never said I think you must be town. You could also be scum using an investigative role and Ace did the kill.Amianki wrote:
ftr if you're town, don't point out stuff like the other thing ty
Also I think it's funny how people still believe I did the kill while accurately discribing how Ace AND Amianki must have used abilities, which got rather confirmed and which I couldn't know if I hadn't heard the sounds.
Whoever made people forget about this, gj
Whoever made people forget about this, gj
sLaiNi (4) - notscience, - Magic Bomb -, Setsuen, Amianki [L-1]
Ace Timing (2) - sLaiNi, Raging Bull
Not Voting (3) - Haneii, Drezi, Ace Timing
Town:
MB, Haneii
Null - town:
Raging Bull
Null:
Setsuen
NS
Drezi (tending town after how she acted in the ende)
Scum:
Ace Timing
Amianki
Whereas Null would be the pool I'd pick of if one of my scumreads fail.
Ace Timing (2) - sLaiNi, Raging Bull
Not Voting (3) - Haneii, Drezi, Ace Timing
Town:
MB, Haneii
Null - town:
Raging Bull
Null:
Setsuen
NS
Drezi (tending town after how she acted in the ende)
Scum:
Ace Timing
Amianki
Whereas Null would be the pool I'd pick of if one of my scumreads fail.
Last thing to add:
Ace is like 100% scum for me, whereas Amianki is not about 100%, but in comparison to all others he is the highest possibility to be scum.
Ace is like 100% scum for me, whereas Amianki is not about 100%, but in comparison to all others he is the highest possibility to be scum.
waaah don't lynch slaini suddenly I'm feeling really bad about this.
Haneii has been bolded. she hasn't heard noises, even though supposedly she should have from RB correct? Ace heard a directionless noise which shouldn't exist normally I think?.
Is there possibly a connection here?
Is there possibly a connection here?
damn I can't make sense of it either way especially with no NK taking place
MBomb
Topic Starter
6 hours until deadline
Vote Count 4.11
sLaiNi (3) - notscience, Setsuen, Amianki [L-2]
Ace Timing (2) - sLaiNi, Raging Bull
Not Voting (4) - Haneii, Drezi, Ace Timing, - Magic Bomb -
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
sLaiNi (3) - notscience, Setsuen, Amianki [L-2]
Ace Timing (2) - sLaiNi, Raging Bull
Not Voting (4) - Haneii, Drezi, Ace Timing, - Magic Bomb -
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
oh shit, well lynch Ace or Slaini for sure, but I think I might prefer Ace with that directionless thing not making much sense to me and having scumread him D1..
I've been getting a towny feeling from Slaini's latest posts and there's MB voting him who I've scumread aswell + still not trusting notsci either, and slaini lynch would leave him neighbourless so yeah.
You've got to be fucking kidding me.
MB put your vote back on slaini and go check an earlier VC. I'm almost positive he had a vote earlier in the day.
Yolo last second wagon is a bad idea.
MB put your vote back on slaini and go check an earlier VC. I'm almost positive he had a vote earlier in the day.
Yolo last second wagon is a bad idea.
You're not trusting me like you chose to choose Jess, right?
Let's play a game
It's called, why does slaini not have a single townread who is voting him?
It's called, why does slaini not have a single townread who is voting him?
Those people who aren't voting or are trying to start a last second yolowagon or unvoting for infomation thats already in the thread need some serious limelight tomorrow.
Jeezus.
Jeezus.
I'm talking about you whiteknighting th everliving fuck out of her
You've said you're fine with either Ace or slaini so what's this sudden change of heart now?
Because a wagon suddenly losing all its steam around deadline (a la jess d2) is sketchy as fuck.
Lol he's still at L-1 for all intents and purposes, MB just unvoted because he's being careful now for whatever reason after saini's been at L-1 for a while already.
I stand corrected, Haneii hasn't voted all day.
Regardless, there's also the whole "one of the doublevoters is scum" thing.
Regardless, there's also the whole "one of the doublevoters is scum" thing.
And this gets back to if slaini flips town we can lynch ace tomorrow!
and the opposite is not true because? I'd rather you have a neighbour.
Here's my question for you, drezi
Noone's claimed to have targetted slaini.
Do you think a scumteam with ace is likely to kill him? Because I don't.
Noone's claimed to have targetted slaini.
Do you think a scumteam with ace is likely to kill him? Because I don't.
Now you're just looking for excuses not to lynch slaini holy fuck.
Topic Starter
Vote Count 4.12
sLaiNi (3) - notscience, Setsuen, Amianki [L-2]
Ace Timing (3) - sLaiNi, Raging Bull, Drezi [L-2]
Not Voting (3) - Haneii, Ace Timing, - Magic Bomb -
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
sLaiNi (3) - notscience, Setsuen, Amianki [L-2]
Ace Timing (3) - sLaiNi, Raging Bull, Drezi [L-2]
Not Voting (3) - Haneii, Ace Timing, - Magic Bomb -
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch