targeted Zexion last night.
I want to see his action in this situation.If he can't give a reason why he is town,we will lynch him soon.Navizel wrote:
@Jess, why did you let Slaini live?
Too many reason of why his lynch is better than slaini lynch.Navizel wrote:
but what about rEdo? Pretty sure he gave not just reason but reasons as to why he is town.
maybe scum has Roleblocker,they can use Strongarm.Ace Timing wrote:
...seeing as there is no doctor in the case of Navi being JK.
Maybe the scum actually took what I said seriously. That I should let everyone interpret my claim however they want. And by the way, I only know one person who did just that.Ace Timing wrote:
My biggest question is, why did both scum pick Drezi? It seems sort of counter intuitive, seeing as there is no doctor in the case of Navi being JK.
-[Jess]- wrote:
maybe scum has Roleblocker,they can use Strongarm.Ace Timing wrote:
...seeing as there is no doctor in the case of Navi being JK.
What are you mean?Ace Timing wrote:
All the more reason that two people should've died. The strongarm ability is separate of the brutality ability, so two people should have died.
The chance is 50/50 or something.Ace Timing wrote:
Most probable thing that happened was one scum was inactive during the 48 hour period.
So in mafiascum each mafia member can commit one kill? So two mafia members = two kills per night? I thought they could only kill one person together in a night (Ace Timing wrote:
All the more reason that two people should've died. The strongarm ability is separate of the brutality ability, so two people should have died.
)CalignoBot wrote:
Each night, you and your partner may kill someone in that game.
I checked the previous game on this forum (mostly like 10 months ago)sLaiNi wrote:
So in mafiascum each mafia member can commit one kill? So two mafia members = two kills per night? I thought they could only kill one person together in a nightAce Timing wrote:
All the more reason that two people should've died. The strongarm ability is separate of the brutality ability, so two people should have died.
Why am I a liar, if someone claims that mafia can kill one person at night and I say that I thought that mafia could actually kill only one person at night. Your post rather confirms my assumption that only one person can be killed at night.-[Jess]- wrote:
I checked the previous game on this forum (mostly like 10 months ago)
It seen the mafia members only can kill one at night.
You liar.
you can always check the information in [ur=http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Matrix6]here[/url]sLaiNi wrote:
Why am I a liar, if someone claims that mafia can kill one person at night and I say that I thought that mafia could actually kill only one person at night. Your post rather confirms my assumption that only one person can be killed at night.-[Jess]- wrote:
I checked the previous game on this forum (mostly like 10 months ago)
It seen the mafia members only can kill one at night.
You liar.
So the person that claimed the "2 kills at night" thing would be a liar.
So why calling me one?
*if someone claims that mafia can kill two person at nightsLaiNi wrote:
Why am I a liar, if someone claims that mafia can kill one person at night and I say that I thought that mafia could actually kill only one person at night. Your post rather confirms my assumption that only one person can be killed at night.-[Jess]- wrote:
I checked the previous game on this forum (mostly like 10 months ago)
It seen the mafia members only can kill one at night.
You liar.
So the person that claimed the "2 kills at night" thing would be a liar.
So why calling me one?
Ace Timing claimed there, that it was strange how mafia killed only one person while they could kill two. Your answer indicates, that you thought the same. All the way through until my post NOONE put Ace's assumption into question, so I thought it would be like this. So I didn't believe Ace, instead I believed all of you. It's not even pure believing, as I put it in question before my "1-shot-bullet-proof"-assumption-[Jess]- wrote:
What are you mean?Ace Timing wrote:
All the more reason that two people should've died. The strongarm ability is separate of the brutality ability, so two people should have died.The chance is 50/50 or something.Ace Timing wrote:
Most probable thing that happened was one scum was inactive during the 48 hour period.
I already checked the Matrix6 thing. Theres no way I would've gotten to this conclusion without checking the Matrix:-[Jess]- wrote:
you can always check the information in [ur=http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Matrix6]here[/url]
sLaiNi wrote:
If Navizel actually is a Jailor AND the mafia has a strongarm, then we have a 1-shot-bulletproof town.
Sorry,I didn't though the same though on him,I am curious about his word.And why cause you think I and Ace has same though?sLaiNi wrote:
Ace Timing claimed there, that it was strange how mafia killed only one person while they could kill two. Your answer indicates, that you thought the same. All the way through until my post NOONE put Ace's assumption into question, so I thought it would be like this. So I didn't believe Ace, instead I believed all of you. It's not even pure believing, as I put it in question before my "1-shot-bullet-proof"-assumption
Try to check this forum,there have tons of Matrix6 gameplaysLaiNi wrote:
I already checked the Matrix6 thing. Theres no way I would've gotten to this conclusion without checking the Matrix:-[Jess]- wrote:
you can always check the information in [ur=http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Matrix6]here[/url]
And make sure to check the QTwhat?
tfw QT is quicktopic-[Jess]- wrote:
And make sure to check the QT
Navizel wrote:
It would be great if people would stop posting for a while until Jess answers my question. I mean just post a prod dodge instead of contributing to the game.
Oh,I mean the surm Quicktopic of the past game.Navizel wrote:
And make sure to check the QTwhat?
No,Dead people can also use QuicktopicAce Timing wrote:
tfw QT is quicktopic-[Jess]- wrote:
And make sure to check the QT
tfw only scum can use said quick topic
tfw vote Jess
What?You want to wait me for 10 hours?sLaiNi wrote:
Wait until she answeres, as Navi said.
What?-[Jess]- wrote:
Oh,I mean the surm Quicktopic of the past game
But you are not dead, so that's irrelevant.-[Jess]- wrote:
No,Dead people can also use Quicktopic
It leads to google for me.-[Jess]- wrote:
Check this game t/221861&start=0
And Make sure you check all the pages
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mafiascum+QTNavizel wrote:
But I wonder how Ace knows about QT being Quicktopic.
The only reason I know is we live in the same time zone.Navizel wrote:
I kind of realized that Jess was mentioning the old games but I didn't want her to give ideas that's why I didn't post anything and let her explain first.
fair enough. I only searched QT.Ace Timing wrote:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mafiascum+QTNavizel wrote:
But I wonder how Ace knows about QT being Quicktopic.
Im interested to know how you came to this conclusion tbh.Ace Timing wrote:
No or Role claims CCs yet? Guess Navizel's JK then.
One post calling you a liar (which was most likely in jest) does not warrant such a lengthy response. Live and let go man. It was only one. It would be different if this happened on many occasions but it didn't. No need for so much salt.sLaiNi wrote:
@Jess
When Ace claims (accidentally) that mafia can kill two people per night and I just assume that the more experienced players are right, youcall me out for lying.
When Navi (probably the only confirmed town) tells us to stop writing and I agree with him, you call me out for it.
This is getting hilarious. Could you explain why you alway s accuse me of these things while others started them and I just gave my oppinion on them?
It happened two times and she dodged the question. (Still thanks at her for giving me tips even though it resulted in a potential scumslip)Ace Timing wrote:
One post calling you a liar (which was most likely in jest) does not warrant such a lengthy response. Live and let go man. It was only one. It would be different if this happened on many occasions but it didn't. No need for so much salt.sLaiNi wrote:
@Jess
When Ace claims (accidentally) that mafia can kill two people per night and I just assume that the more experienced players are right, youcall me out for lying.
When Navi (probably the only confirmed town) tells us to stop writing and I agree with him, you call me out for it.
This is getting hilarious. Could you explain why you alway s accuse me of these things while others started them and I just gave my oppinion on them?
sLaiNi wrote:
@Jess
When Ace claims (accidentally) that mafia can kill two people per night and I just assume that the more experienced players are right, you call me out for lying.
When Navi (probably the only confirmed town) tells us to stop writing and I agree with him, you call me out for it.
This is getting hilarious. Could you explain why you always accuse me of these things while others started them and I just gave my oppinion on them?
Well.-[Jess]- wrote:
I want to see his action in this situation.If he can't give a reason why he is town,we will lynch him soon.
Sounds cruel for him
-[Jess]- wrote:
sLaiNi wrote:
@Jess
When Ace claims (accidentally) that mafia can kill two people per night and I just assume that the more experienced players are right, you call me out for lying.
When Navi (probably the only confirmed town) tells us to stop writing and I agree with him, you call me out for it.
This is getting hilarious. Could you explain why you always accuse me of these things while others started them and I just gave my oppinion on them?Well.-[Jess]- wrote:
I want to see his action in this situation.If he can't give a reason why he is town,we will lynch him soon.
Sounds cruel for him
I think rEdo's lynch was justified of how he played when arriving. If you don't think so I really suggest you read the rEdo/Drezi discussion all over again, as town you can't give up if you're about to be lynched, throwing in the towel at that point was an extremely scummy action of rEdo's. He still had time to answer and clarify what Drezi asked.Static Noise Bird wrote:
Vote: Zexion
Good morning.
I told you guys there was no real evidence in the Hika/rEdo wagon at all but alright. Now that Drezi is out of question I'm sure it has to be Slaini/Zexion team. I'm calling it.
Good game and all that.
On the other hand, that "scumslip" of Jess with the QT thing was pretty interesting to see reactions. If you were scum, you would surely use this opportunity to push a lynch on the most suspicious person, but then...Static Noise Bird wrote:
Wait, did Jess just fuck up everything for real?
Vote: Jess
Could you explain this sentence to me? I really don't get it, did you want more votes on Jess at that point? Or did you just want the wagon to stop because that "scumslip" was nothing important?Static Noise Bird wrote:
That's just 2 votes for a probable scumslip, don't get your knickers in a twist.
Huh. I was about to write something about this point being a little too paranoid but then I thought about this being like accusing newbie play. (i.e. you're newbie so that was probably a scumslip). Anyway this accusation is quite irrelevant as there's no way to prove it. I don't even know why I repeated this.Navizel wrote:
But I wonder how Ace knows about QT being Quicktopic. Quick search on google isn't even going to show quicktopic
I kind of realized that Jess was mentioning the old games but I didn't want her to give ideas that's why I didn't post anything and let her explain first.
Good to know. Where are your results? So far I have only seen you posting about the double kill thing and some other stuff. Are you going to do something else?sLaiNi wrote:
Good morning,
That went seemingly bad as hell.
Will take some time thinking about all and reading a bit and post my results when I am back home.
I think I was looking for a panicked reaction from them. Also I didn't unvote right away because they hadn't responded themselves yet.Zexion wrote:
On the other hand, that "scumslip" of Jess with the QT thing was pretty interesting to see reactions. If you were scum, you would surely use this opportunity to push a lynch on the most suspicious person, but then...Could you explain this sentence to me? I really don't get it, did you want more votes on Jess at that point? Or did you just want the wagon to stop because that "scumslip" was nothing important?Static Noise Bird wrote:
That's just 2 votes for a probable scumslip, don't get your knickers in a twist.
I would think its the former because you didn't unvote in the same post.
And why exactly are you interested in knowing that in this point of the game?Ace Timing wrote:
So no one is claiming a role today?
You makes me feel hungry again.sLaiNi wrote:
Same goes to Jess, eating lunch all day (sorry, that actually made me laugh back then)
Well, either we're on the setup with no other PR or we have a 1 shot-Bp which doesn't make much sense in claiming.sLaiNi wrote:
@Zexion Sorry for that, after the "potential scumslip" thingy I wanted to wait a bit and then I totally forgot about it.
So as I have no clue how Day 2 starts here, I will just go ahead and do what I think is right.
First of all: The mafia kills:
I still don't know why they didn't kill Navizel right away. He is the only confirmed town and we're just not going to lynch him unter a valid CC or something comes off.
If we see the rest of us, it was either Sakura or Drezi who would've made sense to be lynched, as they were the most accepted town - reads and they made good points in trying to chase down scum. So in case both of them are town (and we know for sure that Drezi was one) they were the ones that were, together with Navi, the least like to be lynched I guess. That leaves us with: Zexion, SMB, Jess, Ace and me.
That's the point where it's hard for me to find points to think of.
Basically my assumption is, that one of these 5 (excluding me logically) is scum.
If they were town, what reasons would mafia have to not kill them:
SMB was quite inactive, so maybe not kill her for that.
Same goes to Jess, eating lunch all day (sorry, that actually made me laugh back then)
Ace acted quite irrational at the beginning, which turned out to be a test for reaction.
Zexion is one of the possible lynch candidates, so they might hope that town gets rid of him.
Same goes for me and as Navizel stated "He doesn't do any good for us" / "He doesn't help us" (or something like that) they might think the same.
Maybe someone can help me with these thoughts to put them a bit further.
---here I wanted to post my thoughts on the lynches and what caused them / what to learn out of them. I just don't come to a conclusion at this point.
Any Ideas on what we should focus when analyzing the lynches?
This is just rich. I've gone through your ISO and I'm not suprised to see your lack of recent contributions. All you have been doing is jumping on wagons because someone else wrote nice walls or just repeating old ideas. Care to tell me, in your own words and ideas, why I "reek of scum"? Honestly I don't reallly care about Navi since he's just misled (confirmed town and asdf) but you on the other hand sound much more scummy.Static Noise Bird wrote:
Fully aware. I'd be surprised if we were not lynching him today.
To be honest, it's much safer to asume there's a roleblocker among mafia rather than just killing Drezi for talking too much. But as you say there's no way to confirm this as they are just ideas...Navizel wrote:
I don't even know why I'm still alive. Everyone is null to me except Zexion, Slaini, and Jess. Zexion and Slaini are my main scumreads while Jess is a null-scum. Sakura was null-town but I don't know about Nyquill.
Hmm.. sometimes I feel like mafia are the newbies cause they left JK. However, that might mean there's a roleblocker in the mafia. I would like to add something here but I don't want to teach mafia.
One reason I can think of why mafia is composed of the newbies is they are intimidated by Drezi. Drezi is an 'experienced' player and newbies tend to get intimidated and they fear townies who can give information.
I can't sort out my thoughts smh. I have some speculations but I can't properly explain them.
I've mentioned the Drezi/rEdo discussion already, did you guys just skip my post? Also yeah, its kinda surprising that no one else seems to be gathering info from the previous day, its like D1 all over again.Navizel wrote:
Have any of you read Drezi and rEdo's ISOs? I feel like most of the people aren't talking about D1.
I don't really get the idea of the first post.Navizel wrote:
I'm seriously regretting that I went for the offensive N1. I forgot this post, shit p/4293681/
And seriously, why are we not lynching either Slaini or Zexion yet. p/4304790
Which postZexion wrote:
And a last thing, why did everyone ignore Slaini's post?
But you jumped on Slaini's one because reasons. You didn't contribute a single thing, and don't say its okay to do that when the person you're about to lynch isn't plain obvious. (i.e. a strong scumslip)Static Noise Bird wrote:
How in the hell have I jumped on wagons when I was the first to vote you today and explicitly did NOT jump on the rEdo wagon?
I don't really care what you think of me as I think you're scum too. I've stated the reasons for the rEdo lynch many many times and I don't really see WHY you think I was just pushing it for my own intentions. Hika was scummy on her own, rEdo didn't help much either and that's why I helped Drezi with the wagon. If you still think the lynch was unjustified or it was just for my own reasons I really suggest you read the previous day with a little more consideration.Static Noise Bird wrote:
Also you're conf-scum for me, since you're the most logical choice from the rEdo wagon to be lynched as you were too eager to push it last day.
Ace Timing wrote:
Which postZexion wrote:
And a last thing, why did everyone ignore Slaini's post?
sLaiNi wrote:
@Zexion Sorry for that, after the "potential scumslip" thingy I wanted to wait a bit and then I totally forgot about it.
So as I have no clue how Day 2 starts here, I will just go ahead and do what I think is right.
First of all: The mafia kills:
I still don't know why they didn't kill Navizel right away. He is the only confirmed town and we're just not going to lynch him unter a valid CC or something comes off.
If we see the rest of us, it was either Sakura or Drezi who would've made sense to be lynched, as they were the most accepted town - reads and they made good points in trying to chase down scum. So in case both of them are town (and we know for sure that Drezi was one) they were the ones that were, together with Navi, the least like to be lynched I guess. That leaves us with: Zexion, SMB, Jess, Ace and me.
That's the point where it's hard for me to find points to think of.
Basically my assumption is, that one of these 5 (excluding me logically) is scum.
If they were town, what reasons would mafia have to not kill them:
SMB was quite inactive, so maybe not kill her for that.
Same goes to Jess, eating lunch all day (sorry, that actually made me laugh back then)
Ace acted quite irrational at the beginning, which turned out to be a test for reaction.
Zexion is one of the possible lynch candidates, so they might hope that town gets rid of him.
Same goes for me and as Navizel stated "He doesn't do any good for us" / "He doesn't help us" (or something like that) they might think the same.
Maybe someone can help me with these thoughts to put them a bit further.
---here I wanted to post my thoughts on the lynches and what caused them / what to learn out of them. I just don't come to a conclusion at this point.
Any Ideas on what we should focus when analyzing the lynches?
Any lynch is justifiable if you try hard enoughZexion wrote:
Do you think my lynch is justified just because I pushed the rEdo lynch?
It's obviously they're trying hard. I didn't ask that.Ace Timing wrote:
Any lynch is justifiable if you try hard enoughZexion wrote:
Do you think my lynch is justified just because I pushed the rEdo lynch?
Sure, Slaini may very well be scum, but my flip won't really help you in anything. (That is, if you're really town because your playstyle) How about you explain the reason why I "reek of scum" too?Navizel wrote:
Slaini will follow after you, Zexion.
one reason could be that you only appear when you're accused of something, or how you make walls of text that just say "look at X's ISO, they're really scummy" without actually citing anything. Another could be that you are often reluctant to change your vote on people. But then again those are just reasons.Zexion wrote:
Sure, Slaini may very well be scum, but my flip won't really help you in anything. (That is, if you're really town because your playstyle) How about you explain the reason why I "reek of scum" too?Navizel wrote:
Slaini will follow after you, Zexion.
No.If you think that is justified.It is Justified : )Zexion wrote:
Do you think my lynch is justified just because I pushed the rEdo lynch?