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Navizel
targeted Zexion last night.
-[Jess]-

Navizel wrote:

@Jess, why did you let Slaini live?
I want to see his action in this situation.If he can't give a reason why he is town,we will lynch him soon.
Sounds cruel for him
Navizel
but what about rEdo? Pretty sure he gave not just reason but reasons as to why he is town.
Ace Timing
No or Role claims CCs yet? Guess Navizel's JK then.
-[Jess]-

Navizel wrote:

but what about rEdo? Pretty sure he gave not just reason but reasons as to why he is town.
Too many reason of why his lynch is better than slaini lynch.
Ace Timing
My biggest question is, why did both scum pick Drezi? It seems sort of counter intuitive, seeing as there is no doctor in the case of Navi being JK.
-[Jess]-

Ace Timing wrote:

...seeing as there is no doctor in the case of Navi being JK.
maybe scum has Roleblocker,they can use Strongarm.
-[Jess]-
for more info of the role,see p/4275718
Navizel

Ace Timing wrote:

My biggest question is, why did both scum pick Drezi? It seems sort of counter intuitive, seeing as there is no doctor in the case of Navi being JK.
Maybe the scum actually took what I said seriously. That I should let everyone interpret my claim however they want. And by the way, I only know one person who did just that.

Though I was seriously expecting myself to get killed last night.
Ace Timing

-[Jess]- wrote:

Ace Timing wrote:

...seeing as there is no doctor in the case of Navi being JK.
maybe scum has Roleblocker,they can use Strongarm.

All the more reason that two people should've died. The strongarm ability is separate of the brutality ability, so two people should have died.
Ace Timing
Most probable thing that happened was one scum was inactive during the 48 hour period.
-[Jess]-

Ace Timing wrote:

All the more reason that two people should've died. The strongarm ability is separate of the brutality ability, so two people should have died.
What are you mean?

Ace Timing wrote:

Most probable thing that happened was one scum was inactive during the 48 hour period.
The chance is 50/50 or something.
Birdy
Vote: Zexion

Good morning.

I told you guys there was no real evidence in the Hika/rEdo wagon at all but alright. Now that Drezi is out of question I'm sure it has to be Slaini/Zexion team. I'm calling it.

Good game and all that.
sLaiNi

Ace Timing wrote:

All the more reason that two people should've died. The strongarm ability is separate of the brutality ability, so two people should have died.
So in mafiascum each mafia member can commit one kill? So two mafia members = two kills per night? I thought they could only kill one person together in a night (

CalignoBot wrote:

Each night, you and your partner may kill someone in that game.
)

If thats the case:
If Navizel actually is a Jailor AND the mafia has a strongarm, then we have a 1-shot-bulletproof town. That would explain (in case the mafia can kill 2 people at night) how they ended up just killing one, as they shot the bulletproof town.

(still not at home, in IT - class ^^)
-[Jess]-

sLaiNi wrote:

Ace Timing wrote:

All the more reason that two people should've died. The strongarm ability is separate of the brutality ability, so two people should have died.
So in mafiascum each mafia member can commit one kill? So two mafia members = two kills per night? I thought they could only kill one person together in a night
I checked the previous game on this forum (mostly like 10 months ago)
It seen the mafia members only can kill one at night.
You liar.
-[Jess]-
Whoops,it is 11 months ago
sLaiNi

-[Jess]- wrote:

I checked the previous game on this forum (mostly like 10 months ago)
It seen the mafia members only can kill one at night.
You liar.
Why am I a liar, if someone claims that mafia can kill one person at night and I say that I thought that mafia could actually kill only one person at night. Your post rather confirms my assumption that only one person can be killed at night.

So the person that claimed the "2 kills at night" thing would be a liar.

So why calling me one?
Navizel
There's no way mafia can kill two people in a Matrix6 setup.
Navizel
Strongarm is the roleblock ability. It just blocks the targeted person's ability for the night. I don't get what you guys are talking about.
Navizel
And I believe mafia killing Drezi proves that there's a roleblocker in this game. There's just no way they would let a JK live past D1. They probably blocked my action last night since roleblock > jailkeeper
-[Jess]-

sLaiNi wrote:

-[Jess]- wrote:

I checked the previous game on this forum (mostly like 10 months ago)
It seen the mafia members only can kill one at night.
You liar.
Why am I a liar, if someone claims that mafia can kill one person at night and I say that I thought that mafia could actually kill only one person at night. Your post rather confirms my assumption that only one person can be killed at night.

So the person that claimed the "2 kills at night" thing would be a liar.

So why calling me one?
you can always check the information in [ur=http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Matrix6]here[/url]

And Why you believe Ace's word?how silly
-[Jess]-
Whoops,
here
sLaiNi

sLaiNi wrote:

-[Jess]- wrote:

I checked the previous game on this forum (mostly like 10 months ago)
It seen the mafia members only can kill one at night.
You liar.
Why am I a liar, if someone claims that mafia can kill one person at night and I say that I thought that mafia could actually kill only one person at night. Your post rather confirms my assumption that only one person can be killed at night.

So the person that claimed the "2 kills at night" thing would be a liar.

So why calling me one?
*if someone claims that mafia can kill two person at night


misswrote there ^^
sLaiNi

-[Jess]- wrote:

Ace Timing wrote:

All the more reason that two people should've died. The strongarm ability is separate of the brutality ability, so two people should have died.
What are you mean?

Ace Timing wrote:

Most probable thing that happened was one scum was inactive during the 48 hour period.
The chance is 50/50 or something.
Ace Timing claimed there, that it was strange how mafia killed only one person while they could kill two. Your answer indicates, that you thought the same. All the way through until my post NOONE put Ace's assumption into question, so I thought it would be like this. So I didn't believe Ace, instead I believed all of you. It's not even pure believing, as I put it in question before my "1-shot-bullet-proof"-assumption
sLaiNi

-[Jess]- wrote:

you can always check the information in [ur=http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Matrix6]here[/url]
I already checked the Matrix6 thing. Theres no way I would've gotten to this conclusion without checking the Matrix:

sLaiNi wrote:

If Navizel actually is a Jailor AND the mafia has a strongarm, then we have a 1-shot-bulletproof town.

Thanks for pointing the website out in case I didn't know it, though.
-[Jess]-

sLaiNi wrote:

Ace Timing claimed there, that it was strange how mafia killed only one person while they could kill two. Your answer indicates, that you thought the same. All the way through until my post NOONE put Ace's assumption into question, so I thought it would be like this. So I didn't believe Ace, instead I believed all of you. It's not even pure believing, as I put it in question before my "1-shot-bullet-proof"-assumption
Sorry,I didn't though the same though on him,I am curious about his word.And why cause you think I and Ace has same though?

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is late now,I have to sleep
-[Jess]-
One note before I am going to sleep:

sLaiNi wrote:

-[Jess]- wrote:

you can always check the information in [ur=http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Matrix6]here[/url]
I already checked the Matrix6 thing. Theres no way I would've gotten to this conclusion without checking the Matrix:
Try to check this forum,there have tons of Matrix6 gameplay

And make sure to check the QT
Navizel
And make sure to check the QT
what?
Ace Timing
Jeez, this went way too far, I was working under the presumption that each member of the mafia could pick one to kill, not that both killed one. This went really far for really no reason at all. Let's get back to the game instead of questioning the meta.
Navizel
It would be great if people would stop posting for a while until Jess answers my question. I mean just post a prod dodge instead of contributing to the game.
Ace Timing

-[Jess]- wrote:

And make sure to check the QT
tfw QT is quicktopic
tfw only scum can use said quick topic
tfw vote Jess
Birdy
Wait, did Jess just fuck up everything for real?

Vote: Jess
sLaiNi
Wait until she answeres, as Navi said.
Ace Timing
That was before the huge scumslip
Birdy
That's just 2 votes for a probable scumslip, don't get your knickers in a twist.
sLaiNi

Navizel wrote:

It would be great if people would stop posting for a while until Jess answers my question. I mean just post a prod dodge instead of contributing to the game.

Nope it wasn't I guess.
Ace Timing
Also there's no way Jess is going to respond immediately, as it is 3:50 AM where she is, she's probably asleep and won't wake up for 5-10 hours
Navizel
oh well. just don't give new ideas.
-[Jess]-

Navizel wrote:

And make sure to check the QT
what?
Oh,I mean the surm Quicktopic of the past game.

Ace Timing wrote:

-[Jess]- wrote:

And make sure to check the QT
tfw QT is quicktopic
tfw only scum can use said quick topic
tfw vote Jess
No,Dead people can also use Quicktopic

sLaiNi wrote:

Wait until she answeres, as Navi said.
What?You want to wait me for 10 hours?
-[Jess]-
Whoops,a typo for one
'Scum'
Ace Timing

-[Jess]- wrote:

Oh,I mean the surm Quicktopic of the past game
What?

-[Jess]- wrote:

No,Dead people can also use Quicktopic
But you are not dead, so that's irrelevant.
Ace Timing
Nvm on that first one
Ace Timing
You still can't see the QT from previous games. I checked.
-[Jess]-
Check this game t/221861&start=0

And Make sure you check all the pages
Ace Timing

-[Jess]- wrote:

Check this game t/221861&start=0

And Make sure you check all the pages
It leads to google for me.
-[Jess]-
p/3289577

And check this
Navizel
p/3288850

check also the other page
Ace Timing
Oh, okay I was checking the role PMs.
Ace Timing
Unvote
Navizel
But I wonder how Ace knows about QT being Quicktopic. Quick search on google isn't even going to show quicktopic

I kind of realized that Jess was mentioning the old games but I didn't want her to give ideas that's why I didn't post anything and let her explain first.
Ace Timing

Navizel wrote:

But I wonder how Ace knows about QT being Quicktopic.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mafiascum+QT
-[Jess]-

Navizel wrote:

I kind of realized that Jess was mentioning the old games but I didn't want her to give ideas that's why I didn't post anything and let her explain first.
The only reason I know is we live in the same time zone.
Or you just went sleep

Another reason:
We can't think anymore ideas that helping the game works
-[Jess]-
I am now go to school.Back in 5 hours later.
Navizel

Ace Timing wrote:

Navizel wrote:

But I wonder how Ace knows about QT being Quicktopic.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mafiascum+QT
fair enough. I only searched QT.

@Jess, I'm actually living in Canada right now so our timezones are different.
Nyquill

Ace Timing wrote:

No or Role claims CCs yet? Guess Navizel's JK then.
Im interested to know how you came to this conclusion tbh.

mod: im v/la until thursday. Im running around places to renew things.
Birdy
Unvote

Vote: Zexion
Zexion
Off-game: Sorry ppl, just got home and I'm about to fall asleep over the keyboard. I'll read and comment everything in some hours orz.
Navizel
Just like D1, I'm fine with either a Zexion or a Slaini lynch.
-[Jess]-
[quote="Navizel]
@Jess, I'm actually living in Canada right now so our timezones are different.[/quote]

Oh,I thought you are living in Philippines .

Well silly me
sLaiNi
@Jess

When Ace claims (accidentally) that mafia can kill two people per night and I just assume that the more experienced players are right, youcall me out for lying.

When Navi (probably the only confirmed town) tells us to stop writing and I agree with him, you call me out for it.

This is getting hilarious. Could you explain why you alway s accuse me of these things while others started them and I just gave my oppinion on them?
Topic Starter
Amianki
Vote Count 2.2

[2] sLaiNi -- -[Jess]-, Navizel
[1] Zexion -- Static Noise Bird
[0] -[Jess]- --
[0] Ace Timing --
[0] Navizel --
[0] Nyquill --
[0] Static Noise Bird --


[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Ace Timing, Nyquill, sLaiNi, Zexion
With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

Deadline is July 12 at 10:00PM CST (GMT-6).

Nyquill is V/LA until July 9th.
Ace Timing

sLaiNi wrote:

@Jess

When Ace claims (accidentally) that mafia can kill two people per night and I just assume that the more experienced players are right, youcall me out for lying.

When Navi (probably the only confirmed town) tells us to stop writing and I agree with him, you call me out for it.

This is getting hilarious. Could you explain why you alway s accuse me of these things while others started them and I just gave my oppinion on them?
One post calling you a liar (which was most likely in jest) does not warrant such a lengthy response. Live and let go man. It was only one. It would be different if this happened on many occasions but it didn't. No need for so much salt.
sLaiNi

Ace Timing wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

@Jess

When Ace claims (accidentally) that mafia can kill two people per night and I just assume that the more experienced players are right, youcall me out for lying.

When Navi (probably the only confirmed town) tells us to stop writing and I agree with him, you call me out for it.

This is getting hilarious. Could you explain why you alway s accuse me of these things while others started them and I just gave my oppinion on them?
One post calling you a liar (which was most likely in jest) does not warrant such a lengthy response. Live and let go man. It was only one. It would be different if this happened on many occasions but it didn't. No need for so much salt.
It happened two times and she dodged the question. (Still thanks at her for giving me tips even though it resulted in a potential scumslip)

So I might ask question about it. I rather see no reason for you to stop me from trying to get informations.
-[Jess]-

sLaiNi wrote:

@Jess

When Ace claims (accidentally) that mafia can kill two people per night and I just assume that the more experienced players are right, you call me out for lying.

When Navi (probably the only confirmed town) tells us to stop writing and I agree with him, you call me out for it.

This is getting hilarious. Could you explain why you always accuse me of these things while others started them and I just gave my oppinion on them?

-[Jess]- wrote:

I want to see his action in this situation.If he can't give a reason why he is town,we will lynch him soon.
Sounds cruel for him
Well.
sLaiNi

-[Jess]- wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

@Jess

When Ace claims (accidentally) that mafia can kill two people per night and I just assume that the more experienced players are right, you call me out for lying.

When Navi (probably the only confirmed town) tells us to stop writing and I agree with him, you call me out for it.

This is getting hilarious. Could you explain why you always accuse me of these things while others started them and I just gave my oppinion on them?

-[Jess]- wrote:

I want to see his action in this situation.If he can't give a reason why he is town,we will lynch him soon.
Sounds cruel for him
Well.

Good point there. There you got your reactions. Atleast someone who tries to get information
Navizel
Are you guys still on the mafia confusion thing
Zexion
Good (late) morning everyone.

So far Drezi being killed seemed like a interesting choice, I would have been expecting to see Navi dead but if they can roleblock we're essencially without PR's for the time being.

I think scum played it quite well because I would have ruled out a lot of theories if Navi flipped town... there aren't many conclussions I can draw for this nightkill.

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Static Noise Bird wrote:

Vote: Zexion

Good morning.

I told you guys there was no real evidence in the Hika/rEdo wagon at all but alright. Now that Drezi is out of question I'm sure it has to be Slaini/Zexion team. I'm calling it.

Good game and all that.
I think rEdo's lynch was justified of how he played when arriving. If you don't think so I really suggest you read the rEdo/Drezi discussion all over again, as town you can't give up if you're about to be lynched, throwing in the towel at that point was an extremely scummy action of rEdo's. He still had time to answer and clarify what Drezi asked.

The "no real evidence" part suggests you were just going on your own thoughts and not actually reading what was going on. This is kinda fishy, do you have any further "real evidence" about me being scum with Slaini or are you just repeating what Sakura and rEdo said before and pushing a wagon? I really don't see you doing anything.

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Wait, did Jess just fuck up everything for real?

Vote: Jess
On the other hand, that "scumslip" of Jess with the QT thing was pretty interesting to see reactions. If you were scum, you would surely use this opportunity to push a lynch on the most suspicious person, but then...

Static Noise Bird wrote:

That's just 2 votes for a probable scumslip, don't get your knickers in a twist.
Could you explain this sentence to me? I really don't get it, did you want more votes on Jess at that point? Or did you just want the wagon to stop because that "scumslip" was nothing important?

I would think its the former because you didn't unvote in the same post.

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Navizel wrote:

But I wonder how Ace knows about QT being Quicktopic. Quick search on google isn't even going to show quicktopic

I kind of realized that Jess was mentioning the old games but I didn't want her to give ideas that's why I didn't post anything and let her explain first.
Huh. I was about to write something about this point being a little too paranoid but then I thought about this being like accusing newbie play. (i.e. you're newbie so that was probably a scumslip). Anyway this accusation is quite irrelevant as there's no way to prove it. I don't even know why I repeated this.
(Do people read rules and stuff before getting into this kind of games, anyways?)

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sLaiNi wrote:

Good morning,

That went seemingly bad as hell.

Will take some time thinking about all and reading a bit and post my results when I am back home.
Good to know. Where are your results? So far I have only seen you posting about the double kill thing and some other stuff. Are you going to do something else?
sLaiNi
@Zexion Sorry for that, after the "potential scumslip" thingy I wanted to wait a bit and then I totally forgot about it.

So as I have no clue how Day 2 starts here, I will just go ahead and do what I think is right.

First of all: The mafia kills:

I still don't know why they didn't kill Navizel right away. He is the only confirmed town and we're just not going to lynch him unter a valid CC or something comes off.
If we see the rest of us, it was either Sakura or Drezi who would've made sense to be lynched, as they were the most accepted town - reads and they made good points in trying to chase down scum. So in case both of them are town (and we know for sure that Drezi was one) they were the ones that were, together with Navi, the least like to be lynched I guess. That leaves us with: Zexion, SMB, Jess, Ace and me.
That's the point where it's hard for me to find points to think of.
Basically my assumption is, that one of these 5 (excluding me logically) is scum.

If they were town, what reasons would mafia have to not kill them:
SMB was quite inactive, so maybe not kill her for that.
Same goes to Jess, eating lunch all day (sorry, that actually made me laugh back then :D )
Ace acted quite irrational at the beginning, which turned out to be a test for reaction.
Zexion is one of the possible lynch candidates, so they might hope that town gets rid of him.
Same goes for me and as Navizel stated "He doesn't do any good for us" / "He doesn't help us" (or something like that) they might think the same.

Maybe someone can help me with these thoughts to put them a bit further.




---here I wanted to post my thoughts on the lynches and what caused them / what to learn out of them. I just don't come to a conclusion at this point.

Any Ideas on what we should focus when analyzing the lynches?
Birdy

Zexion wrote:

On the other hand, that "scumslip" of Jess with the QT thing was pretty interesting to see reactions. If you were scum, you would surely use this opportunity to push a lynch on the most suspicious person, but then...

Static Noise Bird wrote:

That's just 2 votes for a probable scumslip, don't get your knickers in a twist.
Could you explain this sentence to me? I really don't get it, did you want more votes on Jess at that point? Or did you just want the wagon to stop because that "scumslip" was nothing important?

I would think its the former because you didn't unvote in the same post.
I think I was looking for a panicked reaction from them. Also I didn't unvote right away because they hadn't responded themselves yet.

"Don't get your knickers in a twist" means "don't be upset about irrelevant things". It didn't mean I wanted more or less votes on her, I just noted that the situation was not close to derphammering.
Navizel
Vote: Zexion c:
Navizel
He reeks of scum.
Birdy
Fully aware. I'd be surprised if we were not lynching him today.
Ace Timing
So no one is claiming a role today?
Birdy

Ace Timing wrote:

So no one is claiming a role today?
And why exactly are you interested in knowing that in this point of the game?
Ace Timing
I thought the whole idea of not lynching Navi was to see if anyone would CC the next day or claim something that makes Navi's JK claim impossible like Cop.
Ace Timing
Not lynching him last night to be precise
Navizel
I don't even know why I'm still alive. Everyone is null to me except Zexion, Slaini, and Jess. Zexion and Slaini are my main scumreads while Jess is a null-scum. Sakura was null-town but I don't know about Nyquill.
Hmm.. sometimes I feel like mafia are the newbies cause they left JK. However, that might mean there's a roleblocker in the mafia. I would like to add something here but I don't want to teach mafia.
One reason I can think of why mafia is composed of the newbies is they are intimidated by Drezi. Drezi is an 'experienced' player and newbies tend to get intimidated and they fear townies who can give information.

I can't sort out my thoughts smh. I have some speculations but I can't properly explain them.
Navizel
Have any of you read Drezi and rEdo's ISOs? I feel like most of the people aren't talking about D1.
Navizel
I'm seriously regretting that I went for the offensive N1. I forgot this post, shit p/4293681/

And seriously, why are we not lynching either Slaini or Zexion yet. p/4304790
-[Jess]-
I want to share my view now

Mafia kill In N1:

-Maybe they want to stop some useful information that will here in D2
-They think killing Navi is a trap
-they want to let others can't think in D2

sLaiNi wrote:

Same goes to Jess, eating lunch all day (sorry, that actually made me laugh back then :D )
You makes me feel hungry again.
Zexion

sLaiNi wrote:

@Zexion Sorry for that, after the "potential scumslip" thingy I wanted to wait a bit and then I totally forgot about it.

So as I have no clue how Day 2 starts here, I will just go ahead and do what I think is right.

First of all: The mafia kills:

I still don't know why they didn't kill Navizel right away. He is the only confirmed town and we're just not going to lynch him unter a valid CC or something comes off.
If we see the rest of us, it was either Sakura or Drezi who would've made sense to be lynched, as they were the most accepted town - reads and they made good points in trying to chase down scum. So in case both of them are town (and we know for sure that Drezi was one) they were the ones that were, together with Navi, the least like to be lynched I guess. That leaves us with: Zexion, SMB, Jess, Ace and me.
That's the point where it's hard for me to find points to think of.
Basically my assumption is, that one of these 5 (excluding me logically) is scum.

If they were town, what reasons would mafia have to not kill them:
SMB was quite inactive, so maybe not kill her for that.
Same goes to Jess, eating lunch all day (sorry, that actually made me laugh back then :D )
Ace acted quite irrational at the beginning, which turned out to be a test for reaction.
Zexion is one of the possible lynch candidates, so they might hope that town gets rid of him.
Same goes for me and as Navizel stated "He doesn't do any good for us" / "He doesn't help us" (or something like that) they might think the same.

Maybe someone can help me with these thoughts to put them a bit further.

---here I wanted to post my thoughts on the lynches and what caused them / what to learn out of them. I just don't come to a conclusion at this point.

Any Ideas on what we should focus when analyzing the lynches?
Well, either we're on the setup with no other PR or we have a 1 shot-Bp which doesn't make much sense in claiming.
Wait what, you want to lynch accepted towns? WTF? (bolded part) The rest is kinda obvious.

I can't shake the feeling Navi is helping scum someone while being town. SNB read below, Jess and Ace I haven't seen much other than small stuff but right now I have no drect stuff to say to them, tho they really seem to be slipping under the radar while everyone else focus on me...

When analyzing lynches look at the players interactions with others. As you now know the aligment of the player lots of them makes sense a lot more.

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Fully aware. I'd be surprised if we were not lynching him today.
This is just rich. I've gone through your ISO and I'm not suprised to see your lack of recent contributions. All you have been doing is jumping on wagons because someone else wrote nice walls or just repeating old ideas. Care to tell me, in your own words and ideas, why I "reek of scum"? Honestly I don't reallly care about Navi since he's just misled (confirmed town and asdf) but you on the other hand sound much more scummy.

Vote: SNB

Also If I get lynched while I'm on college or away that would be top kek.

Navizel wrote:

I don't even know why I'm still alive. Everyone is null to me except Zexion, Slaini, and Jess. Zexion and Slaini are my main scumreads while Jess is a null-scum. Sakura was null-town but I don't know about Nyquill.
Hmm.. sometimes I feel like mafia are the newbies cause they left JK. However, that might mean there's a roleblocker in the mafia. I would like to add something here but I don't want to teach mafia.
One reason I can think of why mafia is composed of the newbies is they are intimidated by Drezi. Drezi is an 'experienced' player and newbies tend to get intimidated and they fear townies who can give information.

I can't sort out my thoughts smh. I have some speculations but I can't properly explain them.
To be honest, it's much safer to asume there's a roleblocker among mafia rather than just killing Drezi for talking too much. But as you say there's no way to confirm this as they are just ideas...

Navizel wrote:

Have any of you read Drezi and rEdo's ISOs? I feel like most of the people aren't talking about D1.
I've mentioned the Drezi/rEdo discussion already, did you guys just skip my post? Also yeah, its kinda surprising that no one else seems to be gathering info from the previous day, its like D1 all over again.

Navizel wrote:

I'm seriously regretting that I went for the offensive N1. I forgot this post, shit p/4293681/

And seriously, why are we not lynching either Slaini or Zexion yet. p/4304790
I don't really get the idea of the first post.

But the second one is just :facepalm:, not because you're confirmed town your reads are 100% correct, if you are really using that as a reason for pushing a lynch on me, I don't know what to think of your townplay anymore.

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And a last thing, why did everyone ignore Slaini's post?
Birdy
How in the hell have I jumped on wagons when I was the first to vote you today and explicitly did NOT jump on the rEdo wagon?
Birdy
Also you're conf-scum for me, since you're the most logical choice from the rEdo wagon to be lynched as you were too eager to push it last day.
Ace Timing

Zexion wrote:

And a last thing, why did everyone ignore Slaini's post?
Which post
Zexion

Static Noise Bird wrote:

How in the hell have I jumped on wagons when I was the first to vote you today and explicitly did NOT jump on the rEdo wagon?
But you jumped on Slaini's one because reasons. You didn't contribute a single thing, and don't say its okay to do that when the person you're about to lynch isn't plain obvious. (i.e. a strong scumslip)

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Also you're conf-scum for me, since you're the most logical choice from the rEdo wagon to be lynched as you were too eager to push it last day.
I don't really care what you think of me as I think you're scum too. I've stated the reasons for the rEdo lynch many many times and I don't really see WHY you think I was just pushing it for my own intentions. Hika was scummy on her own, rEdo didn't help much either and that's why I helped Drezi with the wagon. If you still think the lynch was unjustified or it was just for my own reasons I really suggest you read the previous day with a little more consideration.

I did NOT push the lynch just because yes. Your tunnel vision isn't really helping at this point.

Ace Timing wrote:

Zexion wrote:

And a last thing, why did everyone ignore Slaini's post?
Which post

sLaiNi wrote:

@Zexion Sorry for that, after the "potential scumslip" thingy I wanted to wait a bit and then I totally forgot about it.

So as I have no clue how Day 2 starts here, I will just go ahead and do what I think is right.

First of all: The mafia kills:

I still don't know why they didn't kill Navizel right away. He is the only confirmed town and we're just not going to lynch him unter a valid CC or something comes off.
If we see the rest of us, it was either Sakura or Drezi who would've made sense to be lynched, as they were the most accepted town - reads and they made good points in trying to chase down scum. So in case both of them are town (and we know for sure that Drezi was one) they were the ones that were, together with Navi, the least like to be lynched I guess. That leaves us with: Zexion, SMB, Jess, Ace and me.
That's the point where it's hard for me to find points to think of.
Basically my assumption is, that one of these 5 (excluding me logically) is scum.

If they were town, what reasons would mafia have to not kill them:
SMB was quite inactive, so maybe not kill her for that.
Same goes to Jess, eating lunch all day (sorry, that actually made me laugh back then :D )
Ace acted quite irrational at the beginning, which turned out to be a test for reaction.
Zexion is one of the possible lynch candidates, so they might hope that town gets rid of him.
Same goes for me and as Navizel stated "He doesn't do any good for us" / "He doesn't help us" (or something like that) they might think the same.

Maybe someone can help me with these thoughts to put them a bit further.




---here I wanted to post my thoughts on the lynches and what caused them / what to learn out of them. I just don't come to a conclusion at this point.

Any Ideas on what we should focus when analyzing the lynches?

And suddenly Slaini stopped existing for everyone else in this game after he was the potential D1 lynch. I don't know what to think. Is anyone here worried about finding scum, or do you plan to lynch me, see I flip town, and call it a day?

Also @Jess and @Ace I want to know what you think of SNB. Do you think my lynch is justified just because I pushed the rEdo lynch?
Ace Timing

Zexion wrote:

Do you think my lynch is justified just because I pushed the rEdo lynch?
Any lynch is justifiable if you try hard enough
Navizel
Slaini will follow after you, Zexion.
Zexion

Ace Timing wrote:

Zexion wrote:

Do you think my lynch is justified just because I pushed the rEdo lynch?
Any lynch is justifiable if you try hard enough
It's obviously they're trying hard. I didn't ask that.

Navizel wrote:

Slaini will follow after you, Zexion.
Sure, Slaini may very well be scum, but my flip won't really help you in anything. (That is, if you're really town because your playstyle) How about you explain the reason why I "reek of scum" too?
Ace Timing

Zexion wrote:

Navizel wrote:

Slaini will follow after you, Zexion.
Sure, Slaini may very well be scum, but my flip won't really help you in anything. (That is, if you're really town because your playstyle) How about you explain the reason why I "reek of scum" too?
one reason could be that you only appear when you're accused of something, or how you make walls of text that just say "look at X's ISO, they're really scummy" without actually citing anything. Another could be that you are often reluctant to change your vote on people. But then again those are just reasons.
sLaiNi
@Zexion, the bolder part about Drezi being the most obvious "lynch" for being the most reputable towns was misswrote. I meant to say nightkill :D

Its 23:30 here. So I go to sleep. I will be more active tomorrow. Good night @ all
Topic Starter
Amianki
Vote Count 2.3

[2] Zexion -- Static Noise Bird, Navizel
[1] sLaiNi -- -[Jess]-
[1] Static Noise Bird -- Zexion
[0] -[Jess]- --
[0] Ace Timing --
[0] Navizel --
[0] Nyquill --


[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- Ace Timing, Nyquill, sLaiNi
With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

Deadline is July 12 at 10:00PM CST (GMT-6). This is 4 days and 4 hours away.

Nyquill is V/LA until July 9th.
Navizel
rip cb
Navizel
Can't be bothered to explain what has already been explained.
-[Jess]-

Zexion wrote:

Do you think my lynch is justified just because I pushed the rEdo lynch?
No.If you think that is justified.It is Justified : )

Also rip cb
Birdy
rip everyone I guess'

I hope Nyquill can return soon.
Navizel
I believe we're just waiting for a lynch to happen.
Navizel
At least for me. Just waiting for either Slaini or Zexion to get lynched.
Birdy
Yeah I guess so. Preferably Zexion because I'm not entirely sure about Slaini anymore/yet.
Nyquill
I'm back and I took a glance at things because I'm a little tired to do things right now. Will post in the morning.

Also everyone tossing the word "conf" around should prepare their anus.
Zexion
On phone now, couldn't log in today. Will sleep then post in some hours.
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