for this to happen score needs to not be combo-based anymoreNovalogic wrote:
Who knows, maybe one day we'll get to see it become an actual esport.
imo this game needs some sort of multiplyer for landing in the middle of a circle
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Novalogic wrote:
Who knows, maybe one day we'll get to see it become an actual esport.
a big oneMagicsz wrote:
copyrighting would be a problem ...
I hope osu! doesn't get any more popular. Smaller communities are always better, being mainstream tends to attract a lot of idiots. You can already see examples of this type of people as fanboys of popular players and streamers.
Not to mention all the issues with copyright.
Not to mention all the issues with copyright.
I also hope so my rank doesn't fall as quickly.B1rd wrote:
I hope osu! doesn't get any more popular. Smaller communities are always better, being mainstream tends to attract a lot of idiots. You can already see examples of this type of people as fanboys of popular players and streamers.
Not to mention all the issues with copyright.
If osu! would come much more popular what us, players, would benefit from it?
Most of them don't even get past 100k tho :/B1rd wrote:
I hope osu! doesn't get any more popular. Smaller communities are always better, being mainstream tends to attract a lot of idiots.
Gumpyyy wrote:
Most of them don't even get past 100k tho :/B1rd wrote:
I hope osu! doesn't get any more popular. Smaller communities are always better, being mainstream tends to attract a lot of idiots.
I like using pp rather than rank since all of them could theoretically actively play and rank 100k could be 3,000pp.
Well, Osu isn't mainstream, yet it still has a community with about 89% to 93% idiots (based on the people I have seen post here, at the very least). That's quite a lot, even without being mainstream. :pB1rd wrote:
Smaller communities are always better, being mainstream tends to attract a lot of idiots.
In this case I can't really agree with you, because if the community is already below average (depending on your point of view, that is), more players can only equal a rise in quality. It's actually pretty logical math-wise:
If the number is <0 (in this case, 0 is the sum of all the players adding up to be right in the middle - average), adding a bunch of randomly generated numbers (people being either mongrelic and utterly idiotic, or brilliant), it's always going to slowly go back to 0, unless there is a bias pushing it to generate lower numbers (but that wouldn't be RNG anymore).
Likewise, if the quality was above 0, adding a bunch of random numbers would slowly bring it down.
Regardless, you should look forward to meeting new people, and you might just meet someone who you particularly like and share common ideas with. Having the same community time and time again would result in it getting stale and eventually dying out, and you want improvement, right?
Congratulations, you can expected value and normal curve.
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yes thats true and people will get toxic ofcourse but if peppy can tighten the rules so thos corrupted players will get banned sooner. because he also wants his game to get popularB1rd wrote:
I hope osu! doesn't get any more popular. Smaller communities are always better, being mainstream tends to attract a lot of idiots. You can already see examples of this type of people as fanboys of popular players and streamers.
Not to mention all the issues with copyright.
As long as there are weaboos in the internet, osu! will get more popular each day.
sottovoce
To be honest, I really don't want it to become TOO big. Then you'd get all the little children on here.
Yeah, I agree. It happened to Minecraft, where everything essentially became overpopulated. It used to be fun, but now you have so many immature kids typing "get rekt" after every kill they get.Parasyche wrote:
To be honest, I really don't want it to become TOO big. Then you'd get all the little children on here.
Oh, please don't make this awesome community of Mappers, Skinners, Storyboarders and of course Players to a LoL/DOTA communityCuboidBeats wrote:
Yeah, I agree. It happened to Minecraft, where everything essentially became overpopulated. It used to be fun, but now you have so many immature kids typing "get rekt" after every kill they get.Parasyche wrote:
To be honest, I really don't want it to become TOO big. Then you'd get all the little children on here.
I am perfectly fine with the size of the community right now.The average age of osu players seems to be around 13-14. The game is already filled to the brim with children.Parasyche wrote:
To be honest, I really don't want it to become TOO big. Then you'd get all the little children on here.
that some of them we can't beatpandaBee wrote:
The average age of osu players seems to be around 13-14. The game is already filled to the brim with children.
Welcome to the club of people who actually figured out this place has got way too many children - members: 2.pandaBee wrote:
The average age of osu players seems to be around 13-14. The game is already filled to the brim with children.
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Very well put Thereiri, and I agree with pretty much everything you said.
As far as I know, osu doesn't have any server-client communication during gameplay, which could induce lag, so If you do feel some lag it is on our part (vsync/drivers/raw input/etc.)Therieri wrote:
So I would say this game is not for everyone. If you want to play game where you challenge your personal skills every day which doesn't involve any RNG (if we don't count really small lag between your client and server) then this is the game for you.
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People who give a shit about what a lot of maps areRedPanda wrote:
I AM A NON WEEABOO PLAYING A WEEABOO GAME BECAUSE I WANT TO BE A SPECIAL LITTLE SNOWFLAKE
*tips*
osu! is somewhat of a niche kind of game (nippon music, skill ceiling, etc); niche things almost never become mainstream (esp. with the anti-chinese cartoons senrtiment in western countries).
With the prescence of many people from western countries being interested in asian culture and rhythm games, osu! will definitely grow very large; but mainstream? I really don't think so. Theres a reason why the highest amount of osu! players are either from asia or NA.
Another trend I've discovered recently is that many new players are younger than 15; this probably coinciding with younger weeaboos (I really don't see your average western call of duty kid seeing the appeal in osu!).
As for what growth will bring osu!, it is most likely for the better; more supporters=peppy being able to continue developing the game. As for the "quality" of the community, you can't really say that it will worsen because with an equal amount of bad people is also an equal amount of good people.
tl;dr weeaboos
With the prescence of many people from western countries being interested in asian culture and rhythm games, osu! will definitely grow very large; but mainstream? I really don't think so. Theres a reason why the highest amount of osu! players are either from asia or NA.
Another trend I've discovered recently is that many new players are younger than 15; this probably coinciding with younger weeaboos (I really don't see your average western call of duty kid seeing the appeal in osu!).
As for what growth will bring osu!, it is most likely for the better; more supporters=peppy being able to continue developing the game. As for the "quality" of the community, you can't really say that it will worsen because with an equal amount of bad people is also an equal amount of good people.
tl;dr weeaboos
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haha lol true XDCuboidBeats wrote:
Yeah, I agree. It happened to Minecraft, where everything essentially became overpopulated. It used to be fun, but now you have so many immature kids typing "get rekt" after every kill they get.Parasyche wrote:
To be honest, I really don't want it to become TOO big. Then you'd get all the little children on here.
Throwing my thoughts on here.
Basically people who are saying that osu will be filled with too many kids.. don't even remember that around 60-70% of the pros aren't even of 25 and older.
Even the top players are students. Therefore this statement is invalid. The thing is "immaturity" which I think pretty much most large communities will have some. I won't call osu a huge community, but since this game is pretty competitive and the pros are pretty unhuman, it is not surprising to see people spamming phrases like "wtf", "not even fc" in chats. It's just natural for a game that difficult. (Unlike games like Starcraft, where everything depends on skill and strategy, this is basically a game of talent.)
And as for copyright, I recall that a feature might get implemented in the future, that users have to import their own mp3's in order to play a beatmap, and only files such as .osu(beatmap file), .osb(storyboard), hitsounds etc will be available for download. I personally think it is quite good in this way, as people will have to get a legitimate copy of a song (or even crop songs out of videos, whatever), and therefore avoid issues with copyright if osu is to become bigger, since the songs aren't in the downloads. I don't know if this will ever be implemented, but I think it's a good idea that should be added.
I see that osu streams are mentioned as well - as much as I want to argue that osu streams can be exciting to watch when paired with a handcam (possibly?) I have to agree it doesn't really appeal to random stream passer-bys. Probably the best way to advertise is still through videos and word of mouth.
I really hope for osu to grow big though.
But I think the osu team needs to get bigger though, to do things like fulfilling some popular requests, such as graveyard maps' leaderboard, and make it a good way to show outsiders that apart from user-generated content, the creators will offer new content based on the community's wishes, and attract more people to join the game for the awesome staff the game has.
Basically people who are saying that osu will be filled with too many kids.. don't even remember that around 60-70% of the pros aren't even of 25 and older.
Even the top players are students. Therefore this statement is invalid. The thing is "immaturity" which I think pretty much most large communities will have some. I won't call osu a huge community, but since this game is pretty competitive and the pros are pretty unhuman, it is not surprising to see people spamming phrases like "wtf", "not even fc" in chats. It's just natural for a game that difficult. (Unlike games like Starcraft, where everything depends on skill and strategy, this is basically a game of talent.)
And as for copyright, I recall that a feature might get implemented in the future, that users have to import their own mp3's in order to play a beatmap, and only files such as .osu(beatmap file), .osb(storyboard), hitsounds etc will be available for download. I personally think it is quite good in this way, as people will have to get a legitimate copy of a song (or even crop songs out of videos, whatever), and therefore avoid issues with copyright if osu is to become bigger, since the songs aren't in the downloads. I don't know if this will ever be implemented, but I think it's a good idea that should be added.
I see that osu streams are mentioned as well - as much as I want to argue that osu streams can be exciting to watch when paired with a handcam (possibly?) I have to agree it doesn't really appeal to random stream passer-bys. Probably the best way to advertise is still through videos and word of mouth.
I really hope for osu to grow big though.
But I think the osu team needs to get bigger though, to do things like fulfilling some popular requests, such as graveyard maps' leaderboard, and make it a good way to show outsiders that apart from user-generated content, the creators will offer new content based on the community's wishes, and attract more people to join the game for the awesome staff the game has.
They might be young, but they neither are nor act like 12 year oldsStarrStyx wrote:
Basically people who are saying that osu will be filled with too many kids.. don't even remember that around 60-70% of the pros aren't even of 25 and older.
Even the top players are students. Therefore this statement is invalid. The thing is "immaturity" which I think pretty much most large communities will have some. I won't call osu a huge community, but since this game is pretty competitive and the pros are pretty unhuman, it is not surprising to see people spamming phrases like "wtf", "not even fc" in chats. It's just natural for a game that difficult. (Unlike games like Starcraft, where everything depends on skill and strategy, this is basically a game of talent.)
Hope that it becomes even more popular than it currently is.
The game could do with larger funds and a larger player base (although it feels sad when things change
)
The game could do with larger funds and a larger player base (although it feels sad when things change
)Not sure though but I think it would be the same ranking like in o2jam my opinon though
That'd be nice, but then again does it really matter? Most of us play single anyway. You really want #osu to be a hangout for little kids in exchange for popularity like every other game?
Kouya-
I hope some popular youtube guy will introduce this game...
That's pretty much what it is nowMafuuu wrote:
You really want #osu to be a hangout for little kids
:^)
I have closed #osu everytime I start the client everyday for months now. It's really bad.pandaBee wrote:
That's pretty much what it is nowMafuuu wrote:
You really want #osu to be a hangout for little kids
:^)
I do that too.Kheldragar wrote:
I have closed #osu everytime I start the client everyday for months now.
if i dont close #osu i sometimes get random hls from it by people who speak an other language than english using a word in my hl list that apparently means something in their language. (or an occasional /np)
Plz no.Kei1koh2 wrote:
I hope some popular youtube guy will introduce this game...
With no prior experience with the game, they'd be shit at it, and because osu is all about developing your own skills, a let's play would be impossible. Nobody wants to watch a youtuber fail daily until he aquires some skill, it's boring.
maybe your idea is right,but I think some of them will interested in osuCuboidBeats wrote:
Plz no.Kei1koh2 wrote:
I hope some popular youtube guy will introduce this game...
With no prior experience with the game, they'd be shit at it, and because osu is all about developing your own skills, a let's play would be impossible. Nobody wants to watch a youtuber fail daily until he aquires some skill, it's boring.
Osu! is actually quite popular, if you add all the "active users" in the country ranking you get around 3 638 000+ active players on osu! (even if a part probably plays like once a week).
But many things do that it's hard for it to be really "mainstream", like the copyright issue, the fact that people feel that good players only use tablet and that they don't want/can't afford that, the fact that it's not something incredibly fun to stream or comment (the comments of OWC weren't bad but that's nearly the most you can do, the guys were good). It's of course a lovely game but some things keep it away from being /that/ popular.
And the insane amount of jpop/anime songs, it limits the audience to a certain part.
But many things do that it's hard for it to be really "mainstream", like the copyright issue, the fact that people feel that good players only use tablet and that they don't want/can't afford that, the fact that it's not something incredibly fun to stream or comment (the comments of OWC weren't bad but that's nearly the most you can do, the guys were good). It's of course a lovely game but some things keep it away from being /that/ popular.
And the insane amount of jpop/anime songs, it limits the audience to a certain part.
Ehem MaxMoeFoeCuboidBeats wrote:
Plz no.Kei1koh2 wrote:
I hope some popular youtube guy will introduce this game...
With no prior experience with the game, they'd be shit at it, and because osu is all about developing your own skills, a let's play would be impossible. Nobody wants to watch a youtuber fail daily until he aquires some skill, it's boring.
Osu! is already a popular game, but due to some songs can get copyrighted.
He only made one video on the game, and he absolutely failed at it. It's just not the right game to let's play.Lagel wrote:
Ehem MaxMoeFoeCuboidBeats wrote:
Plz no.
With no prior experience with the game, they'd be shit at it, and because osu is all about developing your own skills, a let's play would be impossible. Nobody wants to watch a youtuber fail daily until he aquires some skill, it's boring.
well if osu! got popular then 2014 mapping would become popular and every song would be in English, so basically Kuba Oms tier maps as the most played beatmap
Well, expect more osu players soon, as my school's gaming club is holding some local tournament (students only). I contributed to the prize pool by giving out a Zowie FK2 fresh from the box; I was originally gonna host it but dropped due to exam schedule.
Yup, game is well organized and its company is nice. Updates are always there, which is good, a lot of players play it and it should be just fine. Good luck to peppy!
It'd probably be 2x more popular than before in 2019.
But with some updates, for example, the coins before, not sure many people would like it.
Depends on peppy.
and the users
ofc
But with some updates, for example, the coins before, not sure many people would like it.
Depends on peppy.
and the users
ofc
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Assuming osu! will survive through dmca requests and copyright issues, it will probably grow into something huge, but also shit.
The community will more likely get more toxic, the game will probably be played by all of the never ending hilarious YouTubers, and the game may become so popular that peppy will be recognized and probably signed off to work for a major games company.
The community will more likely get more toxic, the game will probably be played by all of the never ending hilarious YouTubers, and the game may become so popular that peppy will be recognized and probably signed off to work for a major games company.
Yes, I think peppy will get popular. But what is dmca? I think I read that before...
Ohh.. *_*
Mods will have a nightmare should the community grow due to mainstream gamers.
Fame doesn't make a game good. The worst might happen and it can backfire. Look at dota
I hope we stay as this and not as "1,000,000 people peak login" because if we do, shit happens not only in the community, but this innocent game of ours will be flooded with 9 year olds who wanna play COD for living
Not being pessimistic with popularity but then again, it will backfire for sure.
I hope we stay as this and not as "1,000,000 people peak login" because if we do, shit happens not only in the community, but this innocent game of ours will be flooded with 9 year olds who wanna play COD for living
Not being pessimistic with popularity but then again, it will backfire for sure.
Peppy should monetize this shit, as there are 9 year olds begging their parents to pay for games anyway.AutoMedic wrote:
Fame doesn't make a game good. The worst might happen and it can backfire. Look at dota
I hope we stay as this and not as "1,000,000 people peak login" because if we do, shit happens not only in the community, but this innocent game of ours will be flooded with 9 year olds who wanna play COD for living
Not being pessimistic with popularity but then again, it will backfire for sure.
Peppy can deal with popularity by making it a paid service. Again with LoL and WoW, those are free-to-play games as well (lest you spend on mods and shit). If osu! does become a pay-to-play game, there's less incentives for kids to spam as it is money wasted. Again that would also correspond to a decrease in the fanbase as well. #RIPpeppyjet
Honestly the current state of osu! is already good enough for me. I think how its pretty much ran by the community in terms of beatmaps and forums while still having mods looking over is awesome.
Having all those mainstream gamers from famous toxic games might just ruin the whole community and tarnish the game's reputation. From my point of view, osu! isn't so toxic to the point that the people that heard of the game will immediately say "oh that game with the super toxic community". Look at League of Legends for a great example.
I'm content with the way it is now.
Having all those mainstream gamers from famous toxic games might just ruin the whole community and tarnish the game's reputation. From my point of view, osu! isn't so toxic to the point that the people that heard of the game will immediately say "oh that game with the super toxic community". Look at League of Legends for a great example.
I'm content with the way it is now.
I don't find the osu-community to be particularly more toxic than the community of the other games that I've played, given its demographics.
In fact, I see fewer raging/obnoxious people here than in most games, which is probably because this game is in essence a single player game. People can't direct their anger at anyone other than themselves without feeling at least a little bit stupid.
I don't think that making this game really popular would change much in terms of reputation or general tone.
It'd probably just get more crowded without affecting the communities quality much towards the negative.
In fact, I see fewer raging/obnoxious people here than in most games, which is probably because this game is in essence a single player game. People can't direct their anger at anyone other than themselves without feeling at least a little bit stupid.
I don't think that making this game really popular would change much in terms of reputation or general tone.
It'd probably just get more crowded without affecting the communities quality much towards the negative.
Recent livestreams by Cookiezi and Reimu brought osu! to the list of top 10 games on twitch, in terms of number of viewers. If this starts to occur more often, then more people will take notice of osu!.
Please, that time has already come. I guesstimate 60% of osu's userbase are former LoL players. The cancer has already reached all vital organs of this game. I remember people saying the exact same thing when there were less than 2 million users. Then bam, in a couple years userbase got increased 300%+FlakeeZ wrote:
Honestly the current state of osu! is already good enough for me. I think how its pretty much ran by the community in terms of beatmaps and forums while still having mods looking over is awesome.
Having all those mainstream gamers from famous toxic games might just ruin the whole community and tarnish the game's reputation. From my point of view, osu! isn't so toxic to the point that the people that heard of the game will immediately say "oh that game with the super toxic community". Look at League of Legends for a great example.
I'm content with the way it is now.
The community might not be toxic, but it's full of children - shallow, ill-mannered and imbecilic ones at that. I'd rather have an immature, yet intelligent asshole kid, than a bunch of kids with half their brain missing, kissing each other's arses virtually because they're being bullied IRL and their parents can't stand their existence, so much so that they don't give two fucks about neither them nor their behaviour.
Also, generalising the LoL community is not all that logical. Osu has only one forum, whilst LoL has one for each region.
P.S. If you change your avatar or your username, I might just come to Sweden and suffocate you in your sleep. :p
Also, generalising the LoL community is not all that logical. Osu has only one forum, whilst LoL has one for each region.
P.S. If you change your avatar or your username, I might just come to Sweden and suffocate you in your sleep. :p
Well the current total of players are fine but if osu! still have a chance to growth, why not.
osu! getting popular is not a problem, osu! getting a shitty player(scumbag) is a problem.
Copyright is another problem in the game but right now, it still works fine for most of it. Just keep it update and hope for the best in future.
Stop listing all the bad things, try to find some good ones and enjoy the game.
p/s: what I mean by shitty player is not noob player. just immature player. you get it right
osu! getting popular is not a problem, osu! getting a shitty player(scumbag) is a problem.
Copyright is another problem in the game but right now, it still works fine for most of it. Just keep it update and hope for the best in future.
Stop listing all the bad things, try to find some good ones and enjoy the game.
p/s: what I mean by shitty player is not noob player. just immature player. you get it right
Aurani wrote:
The community might not be toxic, but it's full of children - shallow, ill-mannered and imbecilic ones at that. I'd rather have an immature, yet intelligent asshole kid, than a bunch of kids with half their brain missing, kissing each other's arses virtually because they're being bullied IRL and their parents can't stand their existence, so much so that they don't give two fucks about neither them nor their behaviour.
Also, generalising the LoL community is not all that logical. Osu has only one forum, whilst LoL has one for each region.
P.S. If you change your avatar or your username, I might just come to Sweden and suffocate you in your sleep. :p
Isn't that osu community in a nutshell?
I was just thinking about changing my username but couldn't think of anything good. Whats so good about it anyway? :/
I WAS describing the Osu community. :p
Nay, it goes together incredibly well. Change any aspect of it, and it won't fit anymore.
Nay, it goes together incredibly well. Change any aspect of it, and it won't fit anymore.
It may get popular in the future, sadly not too much people likes rhythm games in general.
Maybe it's just me but the nicest people I've met on the internet come from osu!
Assuming wangs and dongs, osu! will eat chips and drink apple juice. Unless of course Bobby Right shows up to ruin the day by talking to Darth Vader.
Don't mind those kiddies and theri dirt racers. Let them have their fun in the sun.
tldr: this thread is so silly.
Don't mind those kiddies and theri dirt racers. Let them have their fun in the sun.
tldr: this thread is so silly.
I have a problem with people that call threads silly and then leave without any meaningful contribution.
Remember, you are part of the thread. And you can make (well, almost) any topic interesting when you choose to think only a minute about what you write beforehand.
If you think that a thread is silly, its probably just because you either lack the intelligence to make it not silly, or because you didn't bother to make it smart with your contribution.
In the first case you should stop being condescending because you are just making a fool out of yourself.
In the second case, I wonder why you are even here. Just get out and stop wasting my time.
(doesn't apply to blatant troll threads, but you get what I mean)
Remember, you are part of the thread. And you can make (well, almost) any topic interesting when you choose to think only a minute about what you write beforehand.
If you think that a thread is silly, its probably just because you either lack the intelligence to make it not silly, or because you didn't bother to make it smart with your contribution.
In the first case you should stop being condescending because you are just making a fool out of yourself.
In the second case, I wonder why you are even here. Just get out and stop wasting my time.
(doesn't apply to blatant troll threads, but you get what I mean)
This is peppy, just forget it... >_> He does whatever he wants and gives not a single fuck weter its apporiate or what people might think, hell, he posted that whole people are no longer human if they want to be reffered to with their preffered pronoun in modhelp. Randomly, without any appartent reason.Railey2 wrote:
In the first case you should stop being condescending because you are just making a fool out of yourself.
In the second case, I wonder why you are even here. Just get out and stop wasting my time.
You're wasting less time with just thinking "He did it again" over posting a rant regarding his behaviour.
From what I see, looks like osu will have a slower player growth (also slows the growing of toxic communities), many people don't find fun from rhythm game genres, in fast, my school is flooded with DOTA II and CS:GO players, out of x>500 peoples (grade 7 - 12), about 5 people there plays osu, but turns out I'm the only active player, with 2 players visiting a game hour a week and there is alot hype about DOTA II in my school, trading hero sets for real money or some stuffs, betting who will win and go to internet cafe together just to play DOTA II.
And since osu! isn't a "lets play" game like other players mention here...
So... New players won't likely to survive the easy difficulty (instead of choosing beginner diffs which is alot easier) and quit first.
And also because of base of everything here, because it is a japan rhythm game with half of every beatmap which is anime song realted, these will likely to ward anti-weeaboo peoples away (its true), even the song just have a anime background, some will just think the game is a hentai rhythm game.
So summary... The growth will be slow compared to many games out there due to what's inside osu, which is just average but some people out there think it negatively.
And since osu! isn't a "lets play" game like other players mention here...
So... New players won't likely to survive the easy difficulty (instead of choosing beginner diffs which is alot easier) and quit first.
And also because of base of everything here, because it is a japan rhythm game with half of every beatmap which is anime song realted, these will likely to ward anti-weeaboo peoples away (its true), even the song just have a anime background, some will just think the game is a hentai rhythm game.
So summary... The growth will be slow compared to many games out there due to what's inside osu, which is just average but some people out there think it negatively.
I am pretty sure that he wasn't being serious with the pronoun thing. Looked like he exaggerated his irritation about gender-friendly language taken to an extreme. If I understood that correctly, then I actually agree with him in this point. It's very ridiculous.Granger wrote:
This is peppy, just forget it... >_> He does whatever he wants and gives not a single fuck whether its appropriate or what people might think, hell, he posted that whole people are no longer human if they want to be referred to with their preferred pronoun in modhelp. Randomly, without any apparent reason.Railey2 wrote:
In the first case you should stop being condescending because you are just making a fool out of yourself.
In the second case, I wonder why you are even here. Just get out and stop wasting my time.
You're wasting less time with just thinking "He did it again" over posting a rant regarding his behavior.
Other than that.. if people write comments that I don't like, I generally try to call them out on that. The same way, I will compliment or celebrate their comments when I think that they are well thought-out or insightful. Either gives me room to think about why I do or do not agree with what they say and think, so I personally benefit from it too.
I don't actually expect him to make a 180 turn and become the best and most humble person ever. For the most part, I just don't like seeing a comment like his standing alone by themselves without getting criticized for what they are: unnecessary, unhelpful and uninteresting.
No one is making a fool out of themselves but you for going on a big rant about a silly comment. Which was the most interesting post in this otherwise boring thread.
Be glad peppy graced us with his presence.
Be glad peppy graced us with his presence.
man it sure is nice outside
time to stop
time to stop
Hey, no need to lock. I was just saying this is silly.
appreciated.
growth
To come back to the topic, most games userbases grow exponentially until some sort of limit is reached. The exponential growth comes through the game being recommended through users, which attracts more users. Recommendations can be direct ("hey man, check out this game"), or indirect (putting videos up on YT, or drawing more traffic to the site thanks to search-engines favoring highly frequented sites over lower frequented ones).
So this is the one factor that changes progressively with the rise of the userbase.
These effects will keep snowballing until the target-group got exhausted.
decline
The decline of userbases is also pretty interesting. Every userbase has a Half-life. Osu's userbase has a particularly high one, because in the early stages of playing, every user will experience quite a lot of frustration (being a noob sucks). And compared to other games, its not easy at all to get halfway decent plays in this game. The Half-life is therefore heavily skewed by all the people that quit within the first week or day of playing.
I don't have the feeling that osu hit it's limit as of yet. I think its actually far from it. And who knows whats possible if it moves away from the anime-theme and targets 12 year old one direction fans instead. It might just explode or something.
growth
To come back to the topic, most games userbases grow exponentially until some sort of limit is reached. The exponential growth comes through the game being recommended through users, which attracts more users. Recommendations can be direct ("hey man, check out this game"), or indirect (putting videos up on YT, or drawing more traffic to the site thanks to search-engines favoring highly frequented sites over lower frequented ones).
So this is the one factor that changes progressively with the rise of the userbase.
These effects will keep snowballing until the target-group got exhausted.
decline
The decline of userbases is also pretty interesting. Every userbase has a Half-life. Osu's userbase has a particularly high one, because in the early stages of playing, every user will experience quite a lot of frustration (being a noob sucks). And compared to other games, its not easy at all to get halfway decent plays in this game. The Half-life is therefore heavily skewed by all the people that quit within the first week or day of playing.
I don't have the feeling that osu hit it's limit as of yet. I think its actually far from it. And who knows whats possible if it moves away from the anime-theme and targets 12 year old one direction fans instead. It might just explode or something.
THANK GODS that even peppy decided that the kid has a few uncle issues in regard to locking threads seemingly on a whim.
I definitely agree with Railey here, though. Osu is far, far from hitting the cap - it's only begun to exploit marketing tricks and media as a way to draw more people in. This is nothing compared to what it could be.
I definitely agree with Railey here, though. Osu is far, far from hitting the cap - it's only begun to exploit marketing tricks and media as a way to draw more people in. This is nothing compared to what it could be.
If osu solely sticks to the anime-theme, it's potential is almost wasted compared to what it could be.
Promoting music of different kinds is absolutely essential for osu to continue growing. Sticking to the standard generic 1:20 long anime-opening is not beneficial, because it caps off the target-group a lot. Promoting different kinds of music will push the limit further away from where we are.
this has been a step in the right direction. What osu needs, is a set of easily accessible beatmap-packs, preferably organized by musical genre, to keep newbies from running away too fast. Maybe an ingame-notification, that sends them directly to a place where they can pick out their favorite kind of music, would do the trick.
More organization and less of this mess: https://osu.ppy.sh/p/packlist
Promoting music of different kinds is absolutely essential for osu to continue growing. Sticking to the standard generic 1:20 long anime-opening is not beneficial, because it caps off the target-group a lot. Promoting different kinds of music will push the limit further away from where we are.
this has been a step in the right direction. What osu needs, is a set of easily accessible beatmap-packs, preferably organized by musical genre, to keep newbies from running away too fast. Maybe an ingame-notification, that sends them directly to a place where they can pick out their favorite kind of music, would do the trick.
More organization and less of this mess: https://osu.ppy.sh/p/packlist
The thing is that peppy has said, even on his panel IIRC, that he doesn't want osu to grow much more. I think marketing osu or ideas to bring more players in is among the least of his concerns.
Nonsense. Popularity means income, and income means being able to afford a mansion, rather than living in a 20 square metre apartment with 2 cats.
Point is, peppy, like every human, craves money - nothing can take that desire away, and it just so happens that reeling 20 million people in pays off much better than 5 million.
Point is, peppy, like every human, craves money - nothing can take that desire away, and it just so happens that reeling 20 million people in pays off much better than 5 million.
Humans don't crave money by nature, but the things and experiences money enables them to get. Pepsi has something he enjoys doing and gets around doing it, so there isn't really an incentive to whore himself for more dollars.
I did sense sarcasm but that second paragraph made me confused...
I did sense sarcasm but that second paragraph made me confused...
in a sense that he's content, or in a sense that he'd take measures to stop osu from growing further? I can sort of understand the first one, even if it isn't what I'd want. But the second seems off to me.Liiraye wrote:
The thing is that peppy has said, even on his panel IIRC, that he doesn't want osu to grow much more. I think marketing osu or ideas to bring more players in is among the least of his concerns.
We reached the point where it was too popular for its own good when konami dropped a turd on peppy's desk. He would have been satisfied with the playerbase being smaller and regular like it was back then because he was still getting enough money to make it worthwhile as a business venture but without the bullshit that comes with growing: remember, Peppy is ONE man, not a corporation. More work for him comes as osu! grows, and just because he's getting more money, doesn't mean he needs or wants it, he doesn't have shareholders that need to have their scrotums massaged constantly by seeing their stock value rise.
i'm sure peppy, as he is right now as a person, would not be willing to sell osu! to a corporate entity, but if the pressure builds enough from the growth of the game, and said corporation has more capital and manpower with which to run the game, he may be a very different person and more willing to cave to a large sum of money so he can just hand it off and live happily without it.
I believe osu! would take a sharp turn if this happened, most likely for the worst.
My personal hope is that this doesn't happen, and Peppy continues down the path he is now, fixing problems that have been there from the beginning very recently it seems, it really feels to me like hes preparing to make the game open source, which would be an amazing outcome.
Peppy, is it true? Is this your master plan?
i'm sure peppy, as he is right now as a person, would not be willing to sell osu! to a corporate entity, but if the pressure builds enough from the growth of the game, and said corporation has more capital and manpower with which to run the game, he may be a very different person and more willing to cave to a large sum of money so he can just hand it off and live happily without it.
I believe osu! would take a sharp turn if this happened, most likely for the worst.
My personal hope is that this doesn't happen, and Peppy continues down the path he is now, fixing problems that have been there from the beginning very recently it seems, it really feels to me like hes preparing to make the game open source, which would be an amazing outcome.
Peppy, is it true? Is this your master plan?