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Madoka Magica Mafia - The Cycle Continues

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Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

NoHitter wrote:

Walls make people lazy to read. People being lazy to read is not helping town. Therefore, walls are not helping town.
Invalid argument seeing that I only lose as town WHEN town town-reads the scum(as in MyLo). Evidence as seen in lupus prove that walling leads to an EARLY scum lynches and in fact the more I wall DAY ONE, the more easy it is for me to get VERY accurate alignment reads on people.( Nav in another newbie mafia) The LESSER I wall Day1 the MORE difficult it gets for town to lynch correctly. In fact scum TRYING to hide behind the walls by lurking with 1-2post ALSO become EASILY read(Nyquil in Chaos)


So stop using it as an excuse and let me wall as much as I can D1 against people so that it gets EASIER for town. What you're doing now is hoping that I get lynched so that I DON'T out an accurate read on anyone which benefits scum. In this case, I believe I have the right to scum-read anyone who does this.

NoHitter wrote:

Please explain why "bargaining" is a scum tell. (without walls please)
Appeal to Emotion. Unfortunately, you keeping your vote on me is not going to stop me from walling.
In fact, it just makes it obvious to town you just want to throw your vote to me because some towns are on it already. Trying to blend in with town this way is pretty much ALSO another scum tell.

Summary:Appeal to emotion,Trying to blend in with town, and stopping me from making SUPER ACCURATE readings are signs that you are a scum.
NoHitter
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NoHitter
Hey Setsuen, have you ever heard of the post hoc fallacy? Correlation does not imply causation? Well, your pro argument for walling is that.
And even if walling helps you get better reads, you're making it difficult for the rest of us to actually make our own reads.

The fact that you won't even compromise after a lot of us, both in this game and previous games, regardless of alignment, is horrible play.

Setsuen wrote:

Appeal to Emotion
How is that an AtE? When you explain something you don't just blurt out the answer.
NoHitter
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NoHitter
*The fact that you won't even compromise after a lot of us, both in this game and previous games, regardless of alignment, want you to stop, is horrible play.
Raging Bull
2,809 posts
Joined June 2010
Raging Bull
Arguing with Setsuen is like talking to a wall... oh wait.

NH i can never take setsuen seriously. My post was sarcastic.
NoHitter
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NoHitter

Raging Bull wrote:

Arguing with Setsuen is like talking to a wall... oh wait.

NH i can never take setsuen seriously. My post was sarcastic.
You can always try...

Oh... [/sarcasm] tags work wonders.
Raging Bull
2,809 posts
Joined June 2010
Raging Bull
vote sonatora

Unsure why comment on sakura and nothing else.
Gumica
166 posts
Joined November 2013
Gumica
so just what makes you so sure about your reads Setsuen? At this point you really have no basis on your reads.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

NoHitter wrote:

*The fact that you won't even compromise after a lot of us, both in this game and previous games, regardless of alignment, want you to stop, is horrible play.
The irony is half the time scum are just using it as an excuse to stop me from generating activity.

NoHitter wrote:

How is that an AtE? When you explain something you don't just blurt out the answer.
You want a detailed wall saying why or just ATE finish and done with? Seriously. Anyone who played with me once should know it's either just the answer or a wall explaining it. There's no in between.


For an indepth explaination(you can skip if you hate walling):You are basically using a move to make submissive town SUBMIT to you out of FEAR. In this case it doesn't work against me.(Not a surprise) Trying to pull of the emotion "Fear"isn't going to do anytihng to stop me from posting long walls. The fact that you're STILL trying to stop me by voting me is ridiculous and practically a scum tell. What's even more funny is that you carried out the threat first.


Gumica wrote:

so just what makes you so sure about your reads Setsuen? At this point you really have no basis on your reads.
At this point I can just blurt out any reads I want and change them anyhow I want later(which I usually do but I can assure you it's probably going to remain the same bc Sephibro is going to be scummy for sure bc I can predict it). In any case, I was right when I gut placed NH in my scum read.

In any case, I CAN get a proper read just from ONE post and it has been proven in Chaos(players can dispute that but I DID FOS Nyquil so much Zexion suspected me lolllllllllll) and seriously you got to admit my gut read is kind of correct seeing that everyone else who haven't posted(EXCEPT NH) isn't on my scum read.(ntoe that Nh posted AFTER my reads)

also 10/10 NH not doing any reaction gathering test like he usually does. Watch him say I did it for him as the reason why he didn't do it. So much for Walls makes town "lazy" does it really or are you just scum who's too lazy to read walls NH?

Going to sleep soon so here's a top 3 list for who to concentrate on:
1.NoHitter(Scum readed b4 even posting? I'm that good at gut reading)
2.beeboy123
3.Sephibro(unless I see ALL my town reads town-reading him 100% with no suspicion he's staying.)-Look what happened to Tanz when he trusted Sephibro on the last day <.<

No beeboy isn't a filler. I have hidden reasons for this.





Seriously if NH is town, he's doing a horrible town play seeing that he jolly well knows that ANY sane Town should NEVER pick a fight against me when I'm town.
NoHitter
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NoHitter

Setsuen wrote:

The irony is half the time scum are just using it as an excuse to stop me from generating activity.
You can generate activity whether you wall or not?

Setsuen wrote:

For an indepth explaination(you can skip if you hate walling):You are basically using a move to make submissive town SUBMIT to you out of FEAR. In this case it doesn't work against me.(Not a surprise) Trying to pull of the emotion "Fear"isn't going to do anytihng to stop me from posting long walls. The fact that you're STILL trying to stop me by voting me is ridiculous and practically a scum tell. What's even more funny is that you carried out the threat first.
Let me tl;dr this for you to prove that you can make an argument without having to rely on walls:
You're making town SUBMIT to you by using FEAR, but it won't make me stop walling. The fact you're trying to make me stop by voting is ridiculous and a scum tell.
My reply:
Wait what? How did we end up here from "bargaining"? And your definition of AtE is wrong. I am not using it in any argument where AtE is only valid in.

Setsuen wrote:

also 10/10 NH not doing any reaction gathering test like he usually does. Watch him say I did it for him as the reason why he didn't do it. So much for Walls makes town "lazy" does it really or are you just scum who's too lazy to read walls NH?
No need for a reaction test this game. You already pulled town out of RVS.

Setsuen wrote:

Seriously if NH is town, he's doing a horrible town play seeing that he jolly well knows that ANY sane Town should NEVER pick a fight against me when I'm town.
Really? I'm scum because I dislike your inability to make concise sentences? Besides, you aren't even confirmed town yet.
Raging Bull
2,809 posts
Joined June 2010
Raging Bull
Sephi bring on the rageeee.

Anyone going against setsuen is town to me. Though i dont think Setsuen is scum.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

NoHitter wrote:

You can generate activity whether you wall or not?
I'm still going to generate activity using wall because it's the most efficient way for me so why are you trying to stop me from doing it


NoHitter wrote:

My reply:
Wait what? How did we end up here from "bargaining"? And your definition of AtE is wrong. I am not using it in any argument where AtE is only valid in.
So am I suppose to make up a new term called Attempt at making use of fear?

NoHitter wrote:

No need for a reaction test this game. You already pulled town out of RVS.
Which is an outright lie because if it did any sane town would have unvoted me by now.

Setsuen wrote:

Really? I'm scum because I dislike your inability to make concise sentences? Besides, you aren't even confirmed town yet.
Oh but I am. I just outed a scum namely you.

1.Do any town see NH suspecting anyone else? No.
2.Is NH gathering anymore reaction? No.
3.Is NH just basically dragging out this argument even though he knows it will NEVER end unless he stops it first? No.

You''re not even scum hunting and now you're trying to say I'm not conf town to drag attention away from your lack of interest in scum-hunting. Gee what a shock. Also trying the "concise sentence"part doesn't work. You voted and stated the MOST PATHETIC REASON EVER FOR THE VOTE and you're still hanging the vote there.

Raging Bull wrote:

Sephi bring on the rageeee.

Anyone going against setsuen is town to me. Though i dont think Setsuen is scum.
I'm not and if town is actually going to vote me they obviously need to think better.


So one amazing thing about what NH is doing now:First of all I'm posting 300%more than anyone else which means it's much easier to get a read on. What's funny is that NH is placing his votes on me for a ridiculous reason instead of going after those who just voted in one post and done nothing much. Also note that NH has this track record of being wrong as seen from a one of the newbie mafia where he claimed mafia goon to get attention and immediately tunneled on me when I was IRONICALLY VT and not scum.(No NH I will NOT forget you just ignored my accusation at Nav that game just to go for me.)

So yes I'm discrediting NH because 1.His reads are bad 2.His reads are wrong anyway. If the last PR didn't TR me that game I think it would have been a TERRIBLE LyLo that newbie mafia z.z

MoreFunFact:Scum ALWAYS whine about stuff, A LOT. I whined about the lack of activity in UPick, Nav whined about my ridiuclous accusation about him lurking in newbie and now NH is hugely whining(complianing) about my walls EVERY single post. Even more reason to scum read him z.z

Going to sleep now. Watch sephi come on to say it's a bunch of bs when it's correct anyway(you know all the non-believer in my FOS Nyquil in just 1post.)-Apparently my gut guess in Lupus,MyLo,Newbie,Chaos are totally by luck. Yes so many games in a row... all BY LUCK. I'm lucky this game too plz sheep.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen
3.Is NH just basically dragging out this argument even though he knows it will NEVER end unless he stops it first? Yes

Small mistake fixed. I DO look at my own walls so I don't see why ANY REAL town shoudl be that lazy.
Raging Bull
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Joined June 2010
Raging Bull
K
NoHitter
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NoHitter
This is going to be my last statement on this matter.

The problem is Setsuen is that you're using walls to circle around arguments making it look like you've answered things when you're just repeating your old statements.
People then eventually get tired of arguing against you and your walls, leaving those arguments unanswered.

Please seriously consider changing your attitude on this for the game's sake.
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane
As much as I want to say something Setsuen's walls literally wall the game.

We could either move on or squish squash his head.

Best buddy, what have you got from the rest?
AutoMedic
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AutoMedic
Hi there

Lynching setsuen because of walls. lol u guys are funny
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane
Can you get anything useful from them? If yes, tell us please.
AutoMedic
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AutoMedic
I think I can sum this up pretty well

Setsuen trying to make a bandwagon/flashlynch againts Sephi
Wagon backfired, for some reason
Setsuen made walls, NoHitter attempted to debunk his walls
Now Setsuen and NoHitter currently have a claim dispute at each other


What's next, kyubey being lynched because bandwagon issues againts ragingbull


also, i question Sephibro too, but I can't just poke his ass or something
Frostings
913 posts
Joined May 2013
Frostings
Oh no, the walling has already started
Setsuen pls D:
AutoMedic
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AutoMedic
#BeingSetsuenIsSuffering
AutoMedic
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AutoMedic

DakeDekaane wrote:

Can you get anything useful from them? If yes, tell us please.
Birdy
5,757 posts
Joined April 2011
Birdy
I am not going to read all this shit.

I'm back and I will try to be active for the next 6 hours or so. Hi.
Raging Bull
2,809 posts
Joined June 2010
Raging Bull
The only one that truly hit me is just Setsuen and NH, who I read is town. I still don't like how Sonatora talked about Sakura not in game and did not comment about Setsuen.




Sonatora wrote:

What's next, kyubey being lynched because bandwagon issues againts ragingbull


also, i question Sephibro too, but I can't just poke his ass or something
can you explain that bandwagon issue thing? and why not question sephibro right now?
AutoMedic
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AutoMedic
1. That's sarcasm

2. Gut feeling. I should give Sephibro a statement or two.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

Raging Bull wrote:

The only one that truly hit me is just Setsuen and NH, who I read is town. I still don't like how Sonatora talked about Sakura not in game and did not comment about Setsuen.

can you explain that bandwagon issue thing? and why not question sephibro right now?

Should I find it suspicious that Raging Bull is copying Sephibro playstyle in MyLo?(Sephi was scum who townreaded both Tanz and me to drop our suspicion of him in that game z.z Too bad it never did work on me z.z)

Although I have to agree that Sonatora is avoiding stuff too z.z and mfw Sona is saying gut feeling when I am the ONLY one who can possible use it wow copycat much. I should have copyrighted the word gut feeling.

Raging Bull. Do you see Sephibro ANYWHERE? If he's scum he's probably literally looking at this thread deciding on exactly WHEN to come in.(If he's scum he'll wait till the attention on him dies down BECAUSE he WANTS to avoid a wall fight with me if he's scum) Seriously, the longer it takes for him to join in the more suspicious it will be. I'm NOT going to let the attention on him die down and if he's scum, his partner/s can try to get the attention off but it just mean they'll be obv scum when they do that.


NoHitter wrote:

The problem is Setsuen is that you're using walls to circle around arguments making it look like you've answered things when you're just repeating your old statements.
People then eventually get tired of arguing against you and your walls, leaving those arguments unanswered.

so apparently I'm stating the same thing all over again and this is an obv attempt to brainwash you all. Now that I brainwashed you, plz vote Sephi and end D1 already.
Gumica
166 posts
Joined November 2013
Gumica
wow you're so fucking full of yourself Setsuen. Give it a rest already.

1. People won't follow you just because you wall your nonsense.
2. You're the only one who can use gut reading? Surely not. I guess you meant "who can use gut reading precisely"; in which case it's a not either, since your reads tend to be shit too.
3. Nobody cares for references in meaningless past games.
4. And finnaly, no, people won't vote somebody based on your proofless argument(s)
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

Gumica wrote:

wow you're so fucking full of yourself Setsuen. Give it a rest already.

1. People won't follow you just because you wall your nonsense.
2. You're the only one who can use gut reading? Surely not. I guess you meant "who can use gut reading precisely"; in which case it's a not either, since your reads tend to be shit too.
3. Nobody cares for references in meaningless past games.
4. And finnaly, no, people won't vote somebody based on your proofless argument(s)
You say it's proveless but countless time people I FOS and headhunt down always flip maf.
Proofless argument but you have no way or knowing whether it really tunneling or just WIFOM at all.
My reads are much more accurate than yours and you know it. Seeing that I have been consistently right in my scum reads in Lupus and any other mafia games we been in.

So can you stop trying to discredit the fact that my theory may be correct for all you know and that Sephi could just be hiding until attention goes down? Bc seriously if Sephi DOES flip scum, you're going to be pretty obv scum to EVERYONE for trying to discredit me that badly.
Gumica
166 posts
Joined November 2013
Gumica
>Your theory MAY work.
And what if your theory fails? then what? You'll try to discredit your original theory and jump to the next person on your list with a new retarded argument?

That's the problem with you.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

Gumica wrote:

>Your theory MAY work.
And what if your theory fails? then what? You'll try to discredit your original theory and jump to the next person on your list with a new retarded argument?

That's the problem with you.
Why should you care so much whether it work or not seeing that whatever I do it always out scum via reaction?

Also the fact that everyone is concentrating on the "weakness"of my playstyle instead of scum hunting is pathetic(which btw isn't a weakness seeing that it WILL out scum)

Every single game scum uses my walling to "fake"activity. It's amazing how they think no one will realise it.
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane
Sephi come talk please so overlord Setsuen stops thinking so high from himself, which is not a bad thing itself, but there are limits.

Unvote

I'm just going to ignore Setsuen unless future PoE points to him.

For the time being, I'm counting on RB, Gumica, tn and NH to share their first reads from the game (if we can get some?), if for some reason and with this begin the everyday scumhunting. In fact, I encourage everyone to do so.
Setsuen
106 posts
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Setsuen
I wouldn't trust RB that much if I were u.
Navizel
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Navizel
*still waiting for Sephi*

Also, it's stupid to scumpaint someone who hasn't even posted yet. Past games only matter once in a blue moon.
Navizel
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Navizel
Also, FoS on SNB for not bothering to read all of the past posts. (Unless he's talking about Setsuen's posts then nevermind.)

The Setsuen bandwagon is fishy by the way.
Gumica
166 posts
Joined November 2013
Gumica
[Town]
/

[Null-town]
Sonatora - He's trying to help town; and what he writes makes sense.
DakeDekaane - ^ read above

[Null]
beeboy123 - Hasn't posted yet
Navizel - Eeeh..
SNB - Hasn't posted... much useful.
Sephibro - Hasn't confirmed yet...

[Null-scum]
NoHitter - Trying to force someone without any legitimacy, isn't really good idea imho.
Setsuen - ^ read above
tn5421 - ^ read above
Frostings - ^ read above
Raging Bull - You switched opinion of Setsuen way to quickly

[Scum]
/


Not pointing figers yet, but ppl do look random as of right now.
Setsuen
106 posts
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Setsuen

Navizel wrote:

*still waiting for Sephi*

Also, it's stupid to scumpaint someone who hasn't even posted yet. Past games only matter once in a blue moon.
You say that but you and Cth been a scum team 3times already. Once in a blue moon indeed. Nothing is impossible now so Sephi being scum by NOT posting IS POSSIBLE. Simple as that.
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
never scum read setsuen. That scum thing between him and frosting thing was a joke cause of his "only vt " in the game claim.

It would be great if dake shares his reads too if hes asking for reads. As i mentioned, all im getting is setsuen and nh as town because of thier quarrel and sonatora as my most suspicious one so far.

Gumica, why do you think sonatora may be town?

Setsuen wrote:

I wouldn't trust RB that much if I were u.

K
beeboy123
183 posts
Joined June 2013
beeboy123
Currently person who I am reading as town is Setsuen because if Setsuen was scum he probably would have stopped wall posting by now. Considering there is only a few hours left in the day we should just avoid lynching someone today and let the magical girls do there thing.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

beeboy123 wrote:

Currently person who I am reading as town is Setsuen because if Setsuen was scum he probably would have stopped wall posting by now. Considering there is only a few hours left in the day we should just avoid lynching someone today and let the magical girls do there thing.
You should have seen the first UPick I joined. Also let the magicalgirl do their thing? Lol wut. You do realise Dl is in like.. TEN freaking days. I have a LOT of time to argue with EVERYONE if I want to.

tfw Gumica thinks Sona is helping town. That's like saying Zexion accusaing me D1 in ChaosInDummyville as cop was town-like. z.z

@Mod:how about searching for a replacement for Sephibro? seeing that he is MISSING.

Navizel wrote:

Also, FoS on SNB for not bothering to read all of the past posts. (Unless he's talking about Setsuen's posts then nevermind.)

The Setsuen bandwagon is fishy by the way.
SNB was obviously ignoring my post which is pretty darn bad.

You know what's fishy? You keeping yourvote on me AFTER saying the bw on me is fishy.
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
Day isnt over???? Only we cant form contract.
Navizel
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Joined April 2011
Navizel
@mod - There doesn't seem to be anything in NoHitter's ISO... or the problem is on me

Null-town/Town:
NoHitter - Disagrees on Setsuen
DakeDekaane - gathering information.
Raging Bull - ^

Null:
beeboy123 - RVS on me
Gumica - just judging Setsuen's playstyle
Setsuen - being his usual self (just reading tiny bits of Setsuen's posts because walls)
Sonatora - Sonatora being Sonatora. Just like how Setsuen is Setsuen.

Null-scum/Scum:
tn5421 - jumped on the Setsuen bandwagon, doesn't really look like an RVS
Static Noise Bird - http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/3364200 p/3362728
Frostings - RV then proceeded to comment on random posts


Sephibro, I saw you browsing this forum. Please post something.

Unvote
beeboy123
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beeboy123
owo woops I swore the day was ending soon. Woops my bad
beeboy123
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beeboy123
I confused contract forming and day ending :P Safe to assume raging bull is town magical girl judging by the use of the word "we"
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull

Sonatora wrote:

1. That's sarcasm

2. Gut feeling. I should give Sephibro a statement or two.
So like are you going to?
beeboy123
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beeboy123
Raging Bull I would form a contract today in case you get NKd
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull

beeboy123 wrote:

I confused contract forming and day ending :P Safe to assume raging bull is town magical girl judging by the use of the word "we"
Thats good but its easy to use the term we since CB stated it publicly
beeboy123
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beeboy123
As town I don't gain anything from pushing so let's end this
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
I cant get nk.
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
Best to save contract so scum wont get strong
AutoMedic
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AutoMedic
*Waits for seph*

Setsuen, please dont act like fucking albert einstein here. Sephi didn't even talked yet so why point at him.Not to be saying that your walls are pointless but I think everyone is right. You should stop walling and flashlynching.

Also, why not trust RB. He's pretty much nulscum to me?

I dont get it why are you so fuckin paranoid of something. Jeez, take a break mang
AutoMedic
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AutoMedic

beeboy123 wrote:

As town I don't gain anything from pushing so let's end this
This guy


you made me laugh
beeboy123
183 posts
Joined June 2013
beeboy123
Nothing is wrong with walling I don't know why everyone is afraid to read. More good then bad comes out of Setsuen's wall posts.
beeboy123
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Joined June 2013
beeboy123

Sonatora wrote:

This guy


you made me laugh
What does town gain by knowing if someone is magical or not? Now scum on the other hand gain a lot if they know who the magical girls are.
AutoMedic
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AutoMedic
Stop consoling setsuen like a little kid.

He admitted that he already made a mistake and you sweep in action trying to negate our arguments with "that"?
AutoMedic
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AutoMedic
and we can't point fingers at anyone yet doofis

besides, nobody reacted yet on the votes.

#BeingSonatoraIsSuffering
Setsuen
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Joined May 2013
Setsuen

Sonatora wrote:

*Waits for seph*

Setsuen, please dont act like fucking albert einstein here. Sephi didn't even talked yet so why point at him.Not to be saying that your walls are pointless but I think everyone is right. You should stop walling and flashlynching.

Also, why not trust RB. He's pretty much nulscum to me?

I dont get it why are you so fuckin paranoid of something. Jeez, take a break mang
Sonatots how about you stop acting liek it's impossible for Sephi to be scum? So he haven't posted and it isn't called LURKING anymore right? #Logic seriously. It is still lurking and is considered scummy GET IT RIGHT.

I don't trust RB not with the way he's town-reading.

THAT PARANOID MADE ME OUT ALL 3SCUM IN A GAME FOR YOUR INFO.

and for your info walling or anything I say is NEVER a mistake. You have no idea whether it's WIFOM or serious tunneling so insteado f saying my theory and idea are dumb consider what if I am RIGHT because I usually AM correct on this guesses UNTIL late game.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen
as of this point I'm still sure that Sephibro is scum and that I'm fine a a D1 Sonatora lynch bc he's no town PR.
Frostings
913 posts
Joined May 2013
Frostings
1. Setsuen being Setsuen
2. Why are we pushing a lynch quickly beeboy?
3. Sonatora is mean >:(
4. Something else...I forget
5. Oh yeah, scum is obvious. It's ... (SURPRISE) SNB !
^ Wagon SNB please for obvious reasons

Whoever is asking for reads

Town: DakeDake, Gumica, Nav
Null: Setsuen, Sona, NH, RB, why are there so many people
Null-scum: beeboy
Scum: SNB obviously
Where is: tn, Sephibro
Frostings
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Frostings

Setsuen wrote:

as of this point I'm still sure that Sephibro is scum and that I'm fine a a D1 Sonatora lynch bc he's no town PR.
Actually, hm. I actually kinda like this idea

But..can't go back on my word VOTE SNB !!
Amianki
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Topic Starter
Amianki
Vote Count 1.02


[2] Setsuen -- tn5421, NoHitter (L-5)
[1] DakeDekaane -- Setsuen
[1] Navizel -- beeboy123
[1] Sonatora -- Raging Bull
[1] Static Noise Bird -- Frostings
[0] beeboy123 --
[0] Frostings --
[0] Gumica --
[0] NoHitter --
[0] Raging Bull --
[0] Sephibro --
[0] tn5421 --


[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- DakeDenaane, Gumica, Navizel, Sephibro, Sonatora, Static Noise Bird
With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

Deadline is Friday, September 19th at 6:00 PM CST (GMT-6).

Sephibro has been prodded.
NoHitter's ISO has been fixed. Let me know if I missed any other ones.

Night 0 contract forming is no longer possible.
beeboy123
183 posts
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beeboy123
Frostling I am not pushing a lynch though.

I'd rather wat for Sephibro to get mod killed/replaced if he decides not to post content
AutoMedic
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Joined April 2014
AutoMedic

Frostings wrote:

1. Setsuen being Setsuen
2. Why are we pushing a lynch quickly beeboy?
3. Sonatora is mean >:(
4. Something else...I forget
5. Oh yeah, scum is obvious. It's ... (SURPRISE) SNB !
^ Wagon SNB please for obvious reasons

Whoever is asking for reads

Town: DakeDake, Gumica, Nav
Null: Setsuen, Sona, NH, RB, why are there so many people
Null-scum: beeboy
Scum: SNB obviously
Where is: tn, Sephibro
ya sure bout this

heres mine


Town-
Gumica

NullTown-
-Frostings
-tn (previous posts)
-Raging Bull
-Dake

Null-
-Navizel
-SNB
-beeboy
-and everyone else (Except me)
Raging Bull
2,809 posts
Joined June 2010
Raging Bull
Setsuen, scummy behavior does not mean scum.

And dake give us your reads now.
AutoMedic
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AutoMedic

Raging Bull wrote:

Setsuen, scummy behavior does not mean scum.

And dake give us your reads now.
that's what im telling you dammit

arggh mafia players these days
Raging Bull
2,809 posts
Joined June 2010
Raging Bull

Raging Bull wrote:

Arguing with Setsuen is like talking to a wall... oh wait.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

Raging Bull wrote:

Setsuen, scummy behavior does not mean scum.
That's like saying compeltely no post from start of game until now = Not lurking.

So what if scumym doesn't mean they are confirm scum. If you had to put someone into your scum read they WILL be the ones in the scum read. #Logic plz
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
As if other people except Sephibro are not possible scum. Silly.
Raging Bull
2,809 posts
Joined June 2010
Raging Bull
Im sorry that you think no post since the beginning of the game means lurking. Obviously they cant be sick or busy or no connection.

How can you honestly see sephi as scum who has no content at all?
beeboy123
183 posts
Joined June 2013
beeboy123
He is obv lurkin trying to avoid being noticed urmagurd
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

Raging Bull wrote:

Im sorry that you think no post since the beginning of the game means lurking. Obviously they cant be sick or busy or no connection.

How can you honestly see sephi as scum who has no content at all?
and why are you defending Sephibro so much when my gut read said you/Sephibro were scum? You're practically proving that my reads are CORRECT.
Also fact:Not posting anything doesn't mean they can't be scum. Unless you can prove it wrong I HAVE THE RIGHT to continue scum-reading him. You can argue that he might not be scum but the possibility is STILL THERE SO STOP TRYING TO DEFEND HIM.

Like you said scummy behaviour =/= scum but they CAN still be scum. All you can do is argue that I'm doing "nothing" because I'm attacking someone which is dumb seeing that your posts are spent ARGUING about it instead of scum-hunting when you're town-reading me. So if I'm doing "dumb/nothing, you're doing the same by ARGUING about it and not scum hunting. Seriously RB.

Vote:Sephibro

Lynch him off already. Plz don't give off lame excuses such as no post bc I CAN already deduce maf in ONE post if I really want to.(In fact I also outed fake carolS containing 2mafs in EM whenever I was fool so seriously plz don't argue that trusting gut reading is ridiculous. Your gut reading might be, but NOT mine.)

I also predict lots of whiners saying that your gutreading is "by luck"" after the game ends and I go I told you XXX was maf! Then they will go into BS saying your argument were ridiculous why wouldl we sheep them or...... walls were too long. How about you just sheep me on whoever I vote and I lead town to victory instead of you using senseless argument against me which sidetracks town from finding maf.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen
you can replace most of the yours with me. My english is getting worse apparently but it's ok I can still wall as long as people are trying to pick a fight with my scum hunting style.(Which have been happening all the way since Lupus and NO ONE wants to stop whining so I continue walling even more
AutoMedic
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Joined April 2014
AutoMedic
not to be offending you but could you please stop dictating our votes

i dont care if it's "SUPER AMAZING LUCK" or some bullshit like that. I want a proper claim and that's only when I will lay my vote

also RB, why vote me because I mentioned sakura?? lol
Raging Bull
2,809 posts
Joined June 2010
Raging Bull
Im town reading you but shit man, you suck as town. I also have the right to defend him so why are you getting on my case?

Sonatora, it was your timing and your post. You mentioned sakura and not comment on anythming else.
Raging Bull
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Joined June 2010
Raging Bull
And fyi, you arent even scumhunting yourself, you are just telling us seph is scum because he did not post. Then like 99% of your other post is repeating that seph is scum because he didnt post. Dake has more quality post than you do.
AutoMedic
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Joined April 2014
AutoMedic

Raging Bull wrote:

And fyi, you arent even scumhunting yourself, you are just telling us seph is scum because he did not post. Then like 99% of your other post is repeating that seph is scum because he didnt post. Dake has more quality post than you do.
ayy lmao
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

Raging Bull wrote:

Im town reading you but shit man, you suck as town. I also have the right to defend him so why are you getting on my case?

Sonatora, it was your timing and your post. You mentioned sakura and not comment on anythming else.
1.He's not posting which means no one can get a read on him so he's naturally leaning towards scum already
2.If he's scum I expect his partners to defend him
3.You're defending him when town can just go on the attack mode and scum hunt instead of defending one another.

I\m only on your case because you keep using the same he's not posting so he isn't scum excuse.


Raging Bull wrote:

And fyi, you arent even scumhunting yourself, you are just telling us seph is scum because he did not post. Then like 99% of your other post is repeating that seph is scum because he didnt post. Dake has more quality post than you do.

Isn't it because there are people whining that Sephi hasn't posted yet and he should be null? I said he's scum and my gut says so and people are trying to say that it's impossible. and fyi I don't need to scum hunt. As I stated in OTHER games, Scum tries to hunt me which nevers works bc they get lynched instead. Now if you're talking about scums who LURK, I eventually weed them out AFTER getting the more active scum. Tell me again why I need to scum hunt when scum wants a ML on me and i'll just wall back on them? YOU have to scum hunt, I don't.

I'm literally the only town who don't have to scum hunt so I should expect the REST of the town to do it instead which YOU aren't doing btw.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen
Anyone not scum hunting after this other than me is going to be obvious scum.


The discussion is over. Sephi is CONFIRMED. He is NOT town PR at all and if he is VT, he's USELESS seeing that he isn't posting. I do not mind if the mod, mod kilsl him because it's just going to make it so much easier for town.
Frostings
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Joined May 2013
Frostings
1. We lynch Sephibro
2. He flips town
3. ???
Frostings
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Frostings
3. Scum NK Setsuen :)
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen
They can but I have a weird suspicion that Sonatora and Sephibro are from two different alignment so if Sephi does flip town(by town I mean VT bc he isn't PR) Sona is scum.
Frostings
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Frostings
I'd actually rather lynch Sona than Sephibro
mainly because

Frostings wrote:

3. Sonatora is mean >:(
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane
mfw when people wants to lynch a person who hasn't even confirmed, I rather lynch the Setsuen. Knowing Sephi he won't likely even bother to post, unless he's being unable to. He may come back and trashtalk like he usually does.

Also my reads:
Null town: RB, NH, Gumica, Setsuen (sadly). <--- Discussing, scumhunting and spilling shit in thread.
Null: Sephi, beeboy, Sonatora, Navizel <--- Can't read atm.
Null scum: tn, SNB, Frostings <--- No constructive content atm.

Also town doesn't benefit too much on knowing who is a magical girl, neither gets affected, but better not mess around with that stuff now.

To the ones I'm reading as null/null scum, would you vote Sephi and if yes, why?
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane
Thinking it better, what do you guys think about a flavor massclaim?

DO NOT CLAIM PLEASE.
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
I dont think flavor would do much. It should be random.
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
Frosting, why is snb scum?
AutoMedic
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AutoMedic

Frostings wrote:

I'd actually rather lynch Sona than Sephibro
mainly because

Frostings wrote:

3. Sonatora is mean >:(
but im not mean

;w;

it's called tsundere love bby
Birdy
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Birdy

DakeDekaane wrote:

Null scum: tn, SNB, Frostings <--- No constructive content atm.
Well exCUUUUUSe me princess.

I keep being busier than I want to be and when I'm not busy, I'm either sleeping or nobody else is talking.
Birdy
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Joined April 2011
Birdy

DakeDekaane wrote:

Thinking it better, what do you guys think about a flavor massclaim?

DO NOT CLAIM PLEASE.
I can't see anything negative in this, so why not.
NoHitter
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NoHitter

DakeDekaane wrote:

Thinking it better, what do you guys think about a flavor massclaim?

DO NOT CLAIM PLEASE.
Yeah... usually in games like these mods add wtf characters as mafia members.

Unvote

Reads so far:
TOWN
Setsuen - I have to agree with RB here. But such a Village Idiot.
Raging Bull - Nice active discussion.
DakeDekaane - Posts have content with the intent to start discussion.

NULL
Sonatora - I can see town motivation in the posts, but the fluff and the sarcastic jokes just don't bode too well with me.
Gumica - Comments on Setsuen too, but nothing stands out too much.
Navizel - Nothing really substantial here yet. Though if I can ask, you're town-reading me even though you said that the Setsuen bandwagon was fishy, yet I was on it?
Frostings - Nothing substantially posted in terms of content. I can see mostly fluff posts.
tn5421 - Yeah nothing on the RVS??? vote yet.

LURKERS
Sephibro
SnB - Although the "I promise I will post after X" and not following through with it...

SCUM
none
NoHitter
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NoHitter
Clarification on wtf characters: Characters who you don't expect to be scum, are scum, etc. inb4 Kyubey is here and is actually town-sided.

Ninja'd by SNB:
You can start by commenting on everyone else. They don't need to be online.
NoHitter
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NoHitter
Also kind of messed up the arrangements of my reads. Setsuen should be below RB in terms of Town.
Birdy
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Joined April 2011
Birdy

NoHitter wrote:

Ninja'd by SNB:
You can start by commenting on everyone else. They don't need to be online.
I am aware of this. As said, was being busier than supposed to yesterday (I was online the whole time, just doing things like homework and getting groceries).

If I'm not lazy today and will have more free time, I will read everything and comment on the things that I find odd. Excuse me while I have to run to school once again.
Frostings
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Joined May 2013
Frostings
1. No, I wouldn't vote Sephi because there is no reason to. If he doesn't post in another 24 hours he'll probably just get replaced or mod killed anyway.
2. SNB is OBVIOUSLY scum because, well, it's SNB. Thought I made that pretty clear earlier
3. I don't think there was a third thing, but just for completeness here it is :)
Frostings
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Frostings
Aside from SNB, I'd go with either a Sona lynch or beeboy lynch, maybe tn if he continues posting nothing
AutoMedic
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AutoMedic

Frostings wrote:

Aside from SNB, I'd go with either a Sona lynch or beeboy lynch, maybe tn if he continues posting nothing
A serious question

Why would you want to lynch me?

Did I screw up on something or what?
Frostings
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Frostings

beeboy123 wrote:

As town I don't gain anything from pushing so let's end this
I totally misinterpreted this comment
what is going on

retract my statement about lynching beeboy, Sona or tn for now
Frostings
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Frostings

Sonatora wrote:

Frostings wrote:

Aside from SNB, I'd go with either a Sona lynch or beeboy lynch, maybe tn if he continues posting nothing
A serious question

Why would you want to lynch me?

Frostings wrote:

3. Sonatora is mean >:(
:(
AutoMedic
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AutoMedic
Question and vote scums


not someone who is being mean for intentional purposes
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
Cant tell if there is some attempt at distancing with Frosting and Sonatora.
beeboy123
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beeboy123
This matches there usual town play so I wouldn't worry about it
Birdy
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Birdy

Frostings wrote:

5. Oh yeah, scum is obvious. It's ... (SURPRISE) SNB !
^ Wagon SNB please for obvious reasons
Notto disu shitto agen.

Sonatora wrote:

Town-
Gumica
Would you still say this now after the oddly enraged responses to Setsuen's walls. I mean, I found that really odd myself.
Sure, nobody likes Setsuen's shitwalls but that reaction is what surprised me.

Frostings wrote:

2. SNB is OBVIOUSLY scum because, well, it's SNB. Thought I made that pretty clear earlier
Stfu.

Frostings wrote:

beeboy123 wrote:

As town I don't gain anything from pushing so let's end this
I totally misinterpreted this comment
what is going on
Are you sure you misinterpreted the comment? What if he's a VT and already is giving up?

Raging Bull wrote:

Cant tell if there is some attempt at distancing with Frosting and Sonatora.
The scum team, calling it now.

Oh, reads, because why not.
Town
Uh oh.

Null-Town
NoHitter
Raging Bull
Setsuen

Null
Gumica

Null-Scum
Frostings
Sonatora

Scum
.ho hU

Everyone who I've left unmentioned fits under the null categorization. Reading the first pages now, too, but not changing anything about my reads unless something really big happened there.
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