It's sickening how saturated that scoreboard is.Woobowiz wrote:
Whelp......that just happened
It's sickening how saturated that scoreboard is.Woobowiz wrote:
Whelp......that just happened
Huh?NarrillNezzurh wrote:
It's sickening how saturated that scoreboard is.
I'm sorry that getting at least 1 200pp score everyday immediately after training doesn't satisfy your definition of "actually trying to be good".tokaku wrote:
At this rate you're just farming, not actually trying to be good.
Playing more always increases skill regardless. Rank may not be a direct indicator of skill, but even in the sense of "farming", you're still working on and progressing with your skills. So I simply don't understand why anyone would complain about it.tokaku wrote:
At this rate you're just farming, not actually trying to be good.
He's farming ranks. What I mean is, is he actually trying to reach Cookiezi tier or just Cookiezi's rank? And I think it's long enough that he's been practicing DT. If he continues like this it feels like he's just getting the pleasure out of ranks. Yes it is true that playing more = getting better. But if all of these scores are so easily obtained now? Doesn't it mean he has to move on to harder things that isn't just DT? Playing easy songs all day won't make me any better, but wait! MORE PLAY IS BETTER SKILLZ!1!SlasherZX wrote:
Playing more always increases skill regardless. Rank may not be a direct indicator of skill, but even in the sense of "farming", you're still working on and progressing with your skills. So I simply don't understand why anyone would complain about it.tokaku wrote:
At this rate you're just farming, not actually trying to be good.
Plus it's kinda rude to just call out on it like that when the person in question has worked rather hard thus far and still has been making plenty of progress. I'm rather envious of Woobowiz's devotion.
depends what you mean by low. happystick has said in a certain #spect that he needs hard rock or he cant hardly play lesjuh's dragonforce maps without failing.Soarezi wrote:
Kynan* happystick can actually play lower ARRiince wrote:
i second that, im still waiting for astrosexy fc
im not sure what his training involves but if its nothing high bpm ar10 or dt stuffs i worry were going to hit happystick tier instead
i like happystick better than cookiezi anyway
Your plays are good, but they're not impressive given how high you're shooting for. You want glory? Rank on maps with only a handful of mod plays. Get some crazy HR scores on high CS maps. DT something that shouldn't be DT-able.Woobowiz wrote:
I'm sorry that getting at least 1 200pp score everyday immediately after training doesn't satisfy your definition of "actually trying to be good".
You're right, I'm probably still not that good, but please let me have my moment of glory with these top plays....
l00000l rektthedamntrain wrote:
Getting so happy for a 200pp score when there are players who shit out ~400pp plays daily while still being miles from cookiezi's actual skill level is funny.
holy shit dude you have so much hate in you hahahathedamntrain wrote:
Getting so happy for a 200pp score when there are players who shit out ~400pp plays daily while still being miles from cookiezi's actual skill level is funny.
Stating the truth = so much hate. dafuq?!f i z i k wrote:
holy shit dude you have so much hate in you hahahathedamntrain wrote:
Getting so happy for a 200pp score when there are players who shit out ~400pp plays daily while still being miles from cookiezi's actual skill level is funny.
although I have to admit,that last post made me chuckle at the very least
What truth, he's been playing for 6 months and he's being compared to the best players in the game.Cheese wrote:
Stating the truth = so much hate. dafuq?!
this is incredibly truePacemaker wrote:
Woobowiz needs to focus on reading and patterns a little more, and I personally don't think it's impossible to do it all later on.
What?Pacemaker wrote:
What truth, he's been playing for 6 months and he's being compared to the best players in the game.
2k and up is a bit too large a range to be called "the best players in the game," don't you think?Pacemaker wrote:
and he's being compared to the best players in the game.
Time has nothing to do with skill. It's the amount of plays. Someone who has played for 2 years with the same playcount should be at the same level as he is.Pacemaker wrote:
What truth, he's been playing for 6 months and he's being compared to the best players in the game.
Eh, it may train aim as well. HR has smaller circles but dt has bigger/faster jumps in some cases, it goes either way. Accuracy is true, but dt obviously still helps. HR is better for reading except that it's ar10 which may make you "unlearn" ar9 faster than if you were playing ar8+dt, probably not though.NarrillNezzurh wrote:
DT doesn't train reading or aim or accuracy anywhere near as well as HR, plain and simple. DTable maps are far less complex and far less forgiving than no-mod or HR maps of similar star rating. While it's true all of that can be compensated for later, why wouldn't it be preferable to learn fundamentals first and build speed up later?
I couldn't agree more. cookie had 4 years to learn every aspect of the game with different standards compared to nowadays. When woobwoob would play some AR7 nonmod DjPop maps or really old maps, people would probably start hating, that he needs to challenge himself with speed or higher ar. So no matter what he does, bitches always gonna bitch.Pacemaker wrote:
The only big thing that's validly questionable is if the final result is really a new Cookiezi, mainly because Cookiezi's approach at this game was entirely different. When he started, he mostly played nomod and HD, and he right away had low AR reading (which was normal at the time, but nowadays it's an important component of skill many players lack). Woobowiz needs to focus on reading and patterns a little more, and I personally don't think it's impossible to do it all later on.Cheese wrote:
Stating the truth = so much hate. dafuq?!
what's the point of locking it? it already has 89 pages and people are eager to see woobowiz's progression. it's not like anything new is discussed in G&R anyways. unlike the other blog-like threads that have died or are dying atm, this one's still active[-Cloud-] wrote:
This thread should still getting closed tho
Because it's nothign different to Threads like "Oh look my video, I did that run" and "Am I good enough for my rank". It's attentionwhoring and besides that, people here are doing nothing but bitching about eachother or shitposting (Atleast you see this more than constructive discussions).Noobsicle wrote:
what's the point of locking it? it already has 89 pages and people are eager to see woobowiz's progression. it's not like anything new is discussed in G&R anyways. unlike the other blog-like threads that have died or are dying atm, this one's still active[-Cloud-] wrote:
This thread should still getting closed tho
Because I think this thread is pretty much unnecessary, I'm a douche? Get real. I'm just stating my opinion. And with your comment about germans you're more rude and douche than me.Riince wrote:
Noobsicle, when have you seen a German poster not being a douche canoe?
just leave it
Don't click on it if you don't want to read about it lol. It's something different and a lot of people like seeing his progress.[-Cloud-] wrote:
This thread should still getting closed tho
Nah. A thread like this shouldn't be tolerated in my opinion. And I'm not that kind of guy who keeps his mouth shut and looks away.Rewben2 wrote:
Don't click on it if you don't want to read about it lol. It's something different and a lot of people like seeing his progress.[-Cloud-] wrote:
This thread should still getting closed tho
NarrillNezzurh has half the plays of Woobowiz and he is 1.1K rank. Your argument is invalid. On top of that his scores are HDHR scores. Much Swag, Very impressive, so Skill.tokaku wrote:
Time has nothing to do with skill. It's the amount of plays. Someone who has played for 2 years with the same playcount should be at the same level as he is.Pacemaker wrote:
What truth, he's been playing for 6 months and he's being compared to the best players in the game.
[-Cloud-] wrote:
Nah. A thread like this shouldn't be tolerated in my opinion. And I'm not that kind of guy who keeps his mouth shut and looks away.
that's also wrong, many people have 3x plays of other players yet less experience *aka playing maps to 100% or fc, so retrying right away etc.tokaku wrote:
Time has nothing to do with skill. It's the amount of plays. Someone who has played for 2 years with the same playcount should be at the same level as he is.Pacemaker wrote:
What truth, he's been playing for 6 months and he's being compared to the best players in the game.
thedamntrain wrote:
Getting so happy for a 200pp score when there are players who shit out ~400pp plays daily while still being miles from cookiezi's actual skill level is funny.
Starting a project and showing others your progress = Attentionwhoring ? Stop using words you don't know the meaning of, pls.[-Cloud-] wrote:
attentionwhoring
tokaku wrote:
Time has nothing to do with skill. It's the amount of plays. Someone who has played for 2 years with the same playcount should be at the same level as he is.Pacemaker wrote:
What truth, he's been playing for 6 months and he's being compared to the best players in the game.
Neither one is entirely accurate. They're statistics.Duckk wrote:
that's also wrong, many people have 3x plays of other players yet less experience *aka playing maps to 100% or fc, so retrying right away etc.
He stated, that he also did this thread for his ego. Did you even read the thread?Pacemaker wrote:
Starting a project and showing others your progress = Attentionwhoring ? Stop using words you don't know the meaning of, pls.[-Cloud-] wrote:
attentionwhoring
That's what most people do who start big projects, what exactly is unusual about that? Your definiton of attentionwhoring is still wrong[-Cloud-] wrote:
He stated, that he also did this thread for his ego.
6 month or 3 years it doesnt matter its about if you play alot or not. And i never said he was progressng slow? Anyway if he wants to keep lying to himself its fine i guess.Pacemaker wrote:
What truth, he's been playing for 6 months and he's being compared to the best players in the game.Cheese wrote:
Stating the truth = so much hate. dafuq?!
Seriously, the amount of retardation in this thread is astounding, really a place for people who don't know shit about this game to come up and go "lol no hdhrdt 500 pp scores yet wtf xDDDD". If you think his progression of skill is slow, then you're a dumbass - for what he's been playing with, his progress is really good. The only big thing that's validly questionable is if the final result is really a new Cookiezi, mainly because Cookiezi's approach at this game was entirely different. When he started, he mostly played nomod and HD, and he right away had low AR reading (which was normal at the time, but nowadays it's an important component of skill many players lack). Woobowiz needs to focus on reading and patterns a little more, and I personally don't think it's impossible to do it all later on.
When people admit that they're doing it (also) for the attention it begins to be attentionwhoring. Atleast for me.Pacemaker wrote:
That's what most people do who start big projects, what exactly is unusual about that? Your definiton of attentionwhoring is still wrong[-Cloud-] wrote:
He stated, that he also did this thread for his ego.
NarrillNezzurh has half the plays of Woobowiz and he is 1.1K rank. Your argument is invalid. On top of that his scores are HDHR scores. Much Swag, Very impressive, so Skill.Its about hit.
I like youthedamntrain wrote:
What's more impressive about getting top 1k with 15k plays is the amount of autism in your brain required to play like that. I can imagine these people losing sleep over their playcount/rank ratio.
you heard it here first folks, if he doesn't like it, it needs to be gone, because not clicking a thread is so hard![-Cloud-] wrote:
Nah. A thread like this shouldn't be tolerated in my opinion. And I'm not that kind of guy who keeps his mouth shut and looks away.
You can request it : https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/4[-Cloud-] wrote:
It's still a forum, not a blog. It would be cool, if ppy would creat a section for this.
Since when is playing a metric fuck ton each day skill?NarrillNezzurh wrote:
You've misspelled "skill."thedamntrain wrote:
autism
Did you just say that Lewa is improving fast?FlyingKebab wrote:
The only thing going for the guy is Play Time to Rank now. Cut him some slack, you can't really change the speed at which you get better, it is kind of a set thing. Those who improve tons in small amounts of plays are lucky to have such a trait others ( *cough* Lewa *cough*) either think or are actually improving at slower rate by virtue (I think that word has the opposite meaning but whatevs).
Meh, I'm over it. And thanks, I definitely will tryOppai Neko wrote:
This thread is full of shitposting now ....
You got 3 and a half years to TRY to reach Cookiezi's level Woob. And keep goint at it
I only really stream when I practice/train and I won't really be doing much of that until I hit 4k pp. But when that happens, you can be sure that I'll be streaming Friday to Sunday around the morning in my time ( like 9:30 AM EDT )Oppai Neko wrote:
Ah when do you stream osu!?
Cause I like to see your practice session but I don't know the time. And when I'm online the line in your signature always says Offline
I wonder why everyone is saying I lack basics?Husky wrote:
Speed without the fundamentals is a dead speed.
Hello fanboyZare wrote:
They're desperately searching for something to complain about to make themselves feel better.
Unfortunately, this gets harder as you progress because you're doing stupidly well, so the reasons for complaining become more and more groundless and abstract.
Unjustified? Have you even seen the bullshit you see in 5+ star Skystar maps? (also I like keeping S.S. as StarStream, whose mapping I highly enjoy)Husky wrote:
His unjustified hate for Skystar maps proves that very well.
Have you even considered that Primastella - Koigokoro was one of the first maps I've played? That's just a failed cherry-picking for an argument. Even my original post has a video of my no-mod run of that, now THAT took up the majority of the plays, DT may have been 30-40 plays tops for Delis' Insane and 10 plays tops for the other Insane.Husky wrote:
And 358 plays of Farmoro Koigoro?
Who said I memorized maps? That's just a baseless and factless statementHusky wrote:
Memorizing the map does not increase the skill.
That wasn't constructive criticism at all, it was an evaluative statement that I took as a jab to my skills.Husky wrote:
Remember kids, a constructive criticism is much more better than warm words of encouragement.
I really am trying, the issue I have is that I haven't invested enough time to adjust to OD 10, and doing that while still learning AR 10 just makes it difficult, I might end up modding AR 9 maps to OD 10 just to figure it out first.NarrillNezzurh wrote:
It's not that people are saying you lack basics, DT is more than doable with basics. Rather, people are saying that all you have are basics, and they say that because you haven't shown anything exceptional other than speed. Some decent HR plays will remedy this.
How is it unjusified? It's a matter of tastes and opinions. What's wrong with that?Husky wrote:
His unjustified hate for Skystar maps
But he's doing just fine so far; focusing on one thing at a time. That seems to work for him so far so it's fine. There isn't one single way to improve on osu!. Keep that in mind.Husky wrote:
By playing DT he won't be Cookiezi. If he really aims into it, he really should train reading more, HR, HD, HDHR, nomod, precision, playing small CS, low ARs, high ARs and everything.
pls, wrong, speed was his weakness, and his accuracy wasn't top-tier for a long time too.Husky wrote:
Cookiezi hasn't got any weakness.
And you may have forgotten that DT is clicking circles to the rhythm of the song faster, which is harder than nomod.Husky wrote:
You have forgotten, the game consists on clicking circles into the rhytm of the song, not "Click as fast as possible".
That wasn't constructive criticism at all, it was an evaluative statement that I took as a jab to my skills.If you received it in that way, then my apologies.
How is it unjusified? It's a matter of tastes and opinions. What's wrong with that?Nothing though. But he wants to be the very best, right?
But he's doing just fine so far; focusing on one thing at a time. That seems to work for him so far so it's fine. There isn't one single way to improve on osu!. Keep that in mind.I'm aware of that. Just I know a lot of players, who are 1-category mastah. I back what I've said - Woobie wants to be the best. no 1. It will be very rejecting, playing something else than what you already mastered.
I agree that taking on both OD10 and AR10 at the same time is tough, but you kind just have to forget about the bad plays and push through it. You won't start getting HR FCs for a while, even on easy maps, but that doesn't mean every play isn't worth something.Woobowiz wrote:
I really am trying, the issue I have is that I haven't invested enough time to adjust to OD 10, and doing that while still learning AR 10 just makes it difficult, I might end up modding AR 9 maps to OD 10 just to figure it out first.
On a slightly separate note, I've been trying for 1 no-mod play, which is Dispel, but nerves seriously gets to me and I end up with 1 or 2 misses.
It's worth mentioning that the absolute nature of OD makes precise rhythm less important as tempo increases. Interpreting the rhythm is definitely a bear with DT, but playing along once you've done that isn't, provided you have the speed.GoldenWolf wrote:
And you may have forgotten that DT is clicking circles to the rhythm of the song faster, which is harder than nomod.
Don't forget DT decreases the hit window, requiring you to be more accurateNarrillNezzurh wrote:
It's worth mentioning that the absolute nature of OD makes precise rhythm less important as tempo increases. Interpreting the rhythm is definitely a bear with DT, but playing along once you've done that isn't, provided you have the speed.GoldenWolf wrote:
And you may have forgotten that DT is clicking circles to the rhythm of the song faster, which is harder than nomod.
If memory serves, it doesn't decrease the hit window as much as HR does (unless it pushes it past 10), and DTable maps generally have lower OD to start with.GoldenWolf wrote:
Don't forget DT decreases the hit window, requiring you to be more accurate
NarrillNezzurh wrote:
Definitely, just not as accurate as an HR play at the same star rating. That was all I meant.
As long as it doesn't end with flames and hatred I am okay with this awkward discussionGoldenWolf wrote:
okay then
Try not to think too much about the game there buddy. Especially with that HORRIBLY disgustingly bad example of DT Airman, like....what did I just read....Cheese wrote:
Can someone explain to me how can speed be a thing? I really don't understand... Everybody can move their pen super fast like idk DT airman but they just cant hit the notes or have accuracy. So in the end yor speed is decided by your aim/reading/accuracy
Speed and Aim don't decide either of the other aspect, they are mutual properties that go hand-in-hand. They are literally intertwining properties; speed cannot exist without the influence of aim and vice versaCheese wrote:
Its the opposite. Speed is decided by aim. And whats wrong with DT Airman? And my "are" point was just a question.
NarrillNezzurh wrote:
Speed is the ability to do everything else faster. It isn't a thing on its own.
How Can Speed Be Real If Our Fingers Aren't RealCheese wrote:
Can someone explain to me how can speed be a thing?