I couldn't SS an od10 map regardless of what I did : (Azer wrote:
>anyone can alt
mmyes id love to see you ss an od10 alt map and tell me everyone can alt properly
Just pick whatever you're most comfortable with, OP. The more natural method will be the best for you.
But...Bikko can do it better?thelewa wrote:
I can SS an OD10 map by alternating
actually he can't anymore because he turned his hand into a paperweightf i z i k wrote:
But...Bikko can do it better?thelewa wrote:
I can SS an OD10 map by alternating
How is singletapping easier to learn though? When you alternate you know the next note will always be your other finger. When you singletap you gotta think about whether you do need to use your other finger or not. Add onto that the fact that alternating streams when you are a singletapping dude is a completely different set of finger movements being used.Ichi wrote:
It´s faster to improve with singletapping, it is really difficult to alternate correctly, and by that i mean that you FULLY alternate, and not just when a bunch of notes come together, and some other times you single. Singletapping is way more consistent and simpler to learn, simplicity is good, specially for your brain to get used to. I personally alternated when i first started, but i realised i was doing singletapping sometimes, so it wasn´t really a good style, i was caught in the middle of both. I´d say go singletap.
How about you switch to single-tapping and give it a serious try to get good at it before saying stuff that makes no sense.EcksDee wrote:
How is singletapping easier to learn though? When you alternate you know the next note will always be your other finger. When you singletap you gotta think about whether you do need to use your other finger or not. Add onto that the fact that alternating streams when you are a singletapping dude is a completely different set of finger movements being used.
Its like such a roundabout way of playing the game I'm legitimately baffled whenever I see people singletap.
on the contrary it takes even less thought to singletap and patterns become easier because it's easier to learn to tap on tempo with one finger than two because you can go at a fairly consisent speed but if you full alternate you have to constantly change your rate of tapping while also holding tempo so it becomes harder to read patterns and be sure of when to tapEcksDee wrote:
How is singletapping easier to learn though? When you alternate you know the next note will always be your other finger. When you singletap you gotta think about whether you do need to use your other finger or not. Add onto that the fact that alternating streams when you are a singletapping dude is a completely different set of finger movements being used.Ichi wrote:
It´s faster to improve with singletapping, it is really difficult to alternate correctly, and by that i mean that you FULLY alternate, and not just when a bunch of notes come together, and some other times you single. Singletapping is way more consistent and simpler to learn, simplicity is good, specially for your brain to get used to. I personally alternated when i first started, but i realised i was doing singletapping sometimes, so it wasn´t really a good style, i was caught in the middle of both. I´d say go singletap.
Its like such a roundabout way of playing the game I'm legitimately baffled whenever I see people singletap.
None of that is what I'd call difficult though. Like for me, I don't ever think about patterns of notes. I just subconsciously thing "Ok, 3+1+5+3" or whatever, and my fingers do all the work.Bassist Vinyl wrote:
on the contrary it takes even less thought to singletap and patterns become easier because it's easier to learn to tap on tempo with one finger than two because you can go at a fairly consisent speed but if you full alternate you have to constantly change your rate of tapping while also holding tempo so it becomes harder to read patterns and be sure of when to tap
i mean ive used both styles altho im not near as good as you this is my way of seeing it.
Bassist Vinyl wrote:
this is EXACTLY why singletapping makes being accurate and holding tempo easier
this is EXACTLY why singletapping makes being accurate and holding tempo easierEcksDee wrote:
You don't think about when you have to use both fingers and when you only gotta use one, do you?
It's not.EcksDee wrote:
I assume it's the same for you.
I started alternating at like 1000 to 2000 plays I believe. After getting used to it, I immediately saw a rise (relatively speaking) in skill and accuracy. I distinctly remember switching between singletapping and alternating on some demetori song on insane. And it just felt more natural.NarrillNezzurh wrote:
It's not.EcksDee wrote:
I assume it's the same for you.
Single tapping is intuitive because it ties finger movements to musical rhythm. For any given subdivision of the measure you'll prefer your dominant finger, only using your other finger when that subdivision becomes insufficient to fully describe the rhythm to be tapped. This allows rhythmic complexity to be built on top of a very simple, repetitive foundation. Alternating is non-intuitive because it actively disregards musical rhythm in favor of efficiency. You no longer have a simple, repetitive, foundation to start with, and as a result it's very difficult for a player not experienced with alternation to keep any semblance of rhythm.
Maybe you find alternation easier, but the average player does not, and as an experienced musician I can tell you that the concept single tapping is built on is far more prevalent in the music world than true alternation.
Lol'd at last sentence.EcksDee wrote:
I started alternating at like 1000 to 2000 plays I believe. After getting used to it, I immediately saw a rise (relatively speaking) in skill and accuracy. I distinctly remember switching between singletapping and alternating on some demetori song on insane. And it just felt more natural.
I might be illiciting some knee jerk reaction by saying osu isnt that much about maintaining a constant rhythm all the time. Osu is more about knowing how much time it takes for the next note to require pressing, including 1/4 1/2 and sometimes that weird 1/6 shite.
Or at least, I don't play it like that, by maintaining some foundational sense of rhythm in my hands.
Tho against an 'experienced musician' im totally out of my depth
How is singletapping easier to learn though? When you alternate you know the next note will always be your other finger. When you singletap you gotta think about whether you do need to use your other finger or not. Add onto that the fact that alternating streams when you are a singletapping dude is a completely different set of finger movements being used..
Its like such a roundabout way of playing the game I'm legitimately baffled whenever I see people singletap
All I'm saying is that if alternation is legitimately more intuitive for you, you're an outlier.EcksDee wrote:
Tho against an 'experienced musician' im totally out of my depth
I'm legitimately interested in the evidence for this.jesus1412 wrote:
If you alt you are more likely to hit "the wall" faster. It's just how it is, both are good but your chances of being good at one are much higher.
What exactly is "the wall"?jesus1412 wrote:
If you alt you are more likely to hit "the wall" faster. It's just how it is, both are good but your chances of being good at one are much higher.
I think the point they mean is..NarrillNezzurh wrote:
I don't know how true that is. Alternating is moderately tiring, but I think attempting to single tap instead would be even worse.
Not exactly true, but we haven't reached the skill level where we're playing 200bpm jump maps yet.jesus1412 wrote:
If you alt you are more likely to hit "the wall" faster. It's just how it is, both are good but your chances of being good at one are much higher.
If you really want to push past the standard skill level, you should learn how to single tap.Robbieyo wrote:
Cool thanks for all the replies, guess I'll probably stick to alternating for now have tried single tapping a few times but don't really like it as much feel its easier for me to follow the rhythm of the song when I alternate.
Most players hit the wall and progress becomes a rarity. Alting players get the speed burst at first "huh lol i can play scarlet rose". After a while the 1key players catch up and don't stop until they hit their own wall as they are FORCED to get faster. Both can be accurate as fuck but the wall is all about physical ability, not reading or accuracy.GoldenWolf wrote:
the stamina wall
jesus1412 wrote:
Most players hit the wall and progress becomes a rarity. Alting players get the speed burst at first "huh lol i can play scarlet rose". After a while the 1key players catch up and don't stop until they hit their own wall as they are FORCED to get faster. Both can be accurate as fuck but the wall is all about physical ability, not reading or accuracy.GoldenWolf wrote:
the stamina wall
I understand, and I am well, well aware that 95% of the top players are singletappers.I don't, it's just what I have seen from observing friends/players in general.
Your statement however is that alters hit the wall faster.
How do you know this is some kind of truth of the universe and not just the fact that most people singletap because of reasons?
It in no way confirms the trend you graphed. Correlation does not equal causation, and there are a number of explanations for the relative lack of alternaters in the top 50, most of which have nothing to do with the actual limitations of alternation.jesus1412 wrote:
Fits the trend very nicely
Quite a few alters switch to single-tap when they hit that wall. That's what is skewing the statistics. I can assure you that the statistic is not 95% because of "follow the leader."EcksDee wrote:
How do you know this is some kind of truth of the universe and not just the fact that most people singletap because of reasons?
theres no doubt a lot of factors in what makes a top player but if a lack of one factor is almost always the case, that ONE factor raises red flags. I played WoW and you know why there were no enhancement shamans on a single one of the top 100 arena teams in season 9 [keeping in mind, an arena team, like a player, has many things that make it work well]? enhancement shamans, like alternating, just weren't the most viable way. or it would have been seen more I think.NarrillNezzurh wrote:
It in no way confirms the trend you graphed. Correlation does not equal causation, and there are a number of explanations for the relative lack of alternaters in the top 50, most of which have nothing to do with the actual limitations of alternation.jesus1412 wrote:
Fits the trend very nicely
yeah but in a game where everyones basically in a constant race to the top in a sense, that makes it unviable. kind of like how a slow car is 'just as good' as a fast car because it can go just as many miles before needing to be serviced, but in the end, it's just not going to be as viable in a competitive setting like that. Yeah the slower/harder to master car/tapping style can get just as far as the faster car, but the fast/easier to master one will always, always be ahead of itjesus1412 wrote:
It's not unviable. Just harder to master.
I single tap and I think that alternating is farking impossible. I probably am okay at alternating, but not very good since I usually single tap most of the notes.EcksDee wrote:
How is singletapping easier to learn though? When you alternate you know the next note will always be your other finger. When you singletap you gotta think about whether you do need to use your other finger or not. Add onto that the fact that alternating streams when you are a singletapping dude is a completely different set of finger movements being used.Ichi wrote:
It´s faster to improve with singletapping, it is really difficult to alternate correctly, and by that i mean that you FULLY alternate, and not just when a bunch of notes come together, and some other times you single. Singletapping is way more consistent and simpler to learn, simplicity is good, specially for your brain to get used to. I personally alternated when i first started, but i realised i was doing singletapping sometimes, so it wasn´t really a good style, i was caught in the middle of both. I´d say go singletap.
Its like such a roundabout way of playing the game I'm legitimately baffled whenever I see people singletap.
Correlation does not equal causation. That single factor does raise red flags, but without proper evidence you can't prove that it's the cause. Maybe few top players alternate because they started off single-tapping and never found a need to learn to alternate. Perhaps many of those top players are old enough that alternation simply wasn't a commonly known thing when they were learning. Perhaps they just don't see a need to learn it because what they have now is working. And of course, this disparity in the top bracket of players gives alternating a certain stigma, meaning new players are less likely to pick it up, leading to fewer alternating top players a few years down the road. It's entirely likely that these things are reasons why alternating isn't more common, and none of them have to do with the viability of alternating at all.Bassist Vinyl wrote:
theres no doubt a lot of factors in what makes a top player but if a lack of one factor is almost always the case, that ONE factor raises red flags. I played WoW and you know why there were no enhancement shamans on a single one of the top 100 arena teams in season 9 [keeping in mind, an arena team, like a player, has many things that make it work well]? enhancement shamans, like alternating, just weren't the most viable way. or it would have been seen more I think.
unless you have a good explanation for the lack of alternators besides lack of viability which I'd be interested in...
Yes both should be learnt. I'd just advice one is learnt before the other.NarrillNezzurh wrote:
Correlation does not equal causation. That single factor does raise red flags, but without proper evidence you can't prove that it's the cause. Maybe few top players alternate because they started off single-tapping and never found a need to learn to alternate. Perhaps many of those top players are old enough that alternation simply wasn't a commonly known thing when they were learning. Perhaps they just don't see a need to learn it because what they have now is working. And of course, this disparity in the top bracket of players gives alternating a certain stigma, meaning new players are less likely to pick it up, leading to fewer alternating top players a few years down the road. It's entirely likely that these things are reasons why alternating isn't more common, and none of them have to do with the viability of alternating at all.Bassist Vinyl wrote:
theres no doubt a lot of factors in what makes a top player but if a lack of one factor is almost always the case, that ONE factor raises red flags. I played WoW and you know why there were no enhancement shamans on a single one of the top 100 arena teams in season 9 [keeping in mind, an arena team, like a player, has many things that make it work well]? enhancement shamans, like alternating, just weren't the most viable way. or it would have been seen more I think.
unless you have a good explanation for the lack of alternators besides lack of viability which I'd be interested in...
Personally, I've found alternation to be a very valuable skill to have, and I firmly advocate learning it and using it side by side with single tapping. Where one fails, the other shines.
True it wasn't the best analogy I could come up with the time, but what I was trying to say is that alternating puts nearly no strain or pain on your fingers at all - thus you wouldn't really be training your stamina or speed in any way and the only aspect that you're going to improve is your aim and accuracy (which can be done single tapping also).NarrillNezzurh wrote:
It's not at all like taking the elevator rather than the stairs. You'll get better at alternating over time, but you'll never get better at taking the elevator. It's more like typing rather than writing on paper. It's more rigid, but far faster.
Now that I think about it, that's not a solid line of thinking at all. What you're suggesting is akin to single-tapping streams because it'll be better for our stamina in the long run.
Why? I can't speak for anyone else, but for me the physical motions of single-tapping and streaming are different (wrist motion vs. finger motion), so training one doesn't really help the other. The only way for me to practice streaming high bpm is to stream high bpm.buny wrote:
I highly doubt a player that alternates could be more or equally likely to be able to stream that fast compared to a single tap player.
Generally the justification for this is that singletapping tires you out faster which trains your muscles more, but as one is in the wrist and the other is in the fingers, I don't see how this can truly be the case.Robbieyo wrote:
Just gave single tapping a decent go and still fairly unsure if it would actually be better for me but going to as most people suggested learn both. I still can't really see how single tapping would improve my speed faster than alternating, I mean if I wanted to "hit the wall" I could just sit there playing maps like End Time for a while till my fingers just die.
if you're using your wrist/arm/elbow to single tap you're doing it wrong. Just the fingers; that's how it works.Ugh, unless you are literally cookiezi? I realise that if he did something it doesn't necesarily mean everyone should play exactly like him, but you can't tell consistency of his single tap and streaming wasn't amazing, thus that he did it wrong, or that anyone that has good effects using wrist does it wrong.
ThisDexus wrote:
if you're using your wrist/arm/elbow to single tap you're doing it wrong. Just the fingers; that's how it works.
And yet most liveplays on youtube of singletappers involve a combination of finger and wrist/arm movement for faster singletapping.buny wrote:
ThisDexus wrote:
if you're using your wrist/arm/elbow to single tap you're doing it wrong. Just the fingers; that's how it works.
Stop comparing single tapping as wrist tapping like double tapping is to alternating...
The most efficient method of playing singles with your arm that I found is to
Tense up your finger
Lift your wrist from the table a bit
Move your elbow up and your hand down at the same time
Move your elbow down and your hand up at the same time
Repeat last 2 steps. This essentially is rotating your forearm around the point between your elbow and hand back and forth.
I support the later quote, though I believe some parts are down to preference and style. For instance, I sometime like to rest my wrist on the edge of my keyboard (as it's all curved and stuff). Though the general aspect is the same. Tap with your arm. Not your wrist. Tensing perhaps isn't a must, but I suppose it helps...?EcksDee wrote:
The most efficient method of playing singles with your arm that I found is to
Tense up your finger
Lift your wrist from the table a bit
Move your elbow up and your hand down at the same time
Move your elbow down and your hand up at the same time
Repeat last 2 steps. This essentially is rotating your forearm around the point between your elbow and hand back and forth.
The most efficient method to playing singles that you can't single tap is to alternateEcksDee wrote:
And yet most liveplays on youtube of singletappers involve a combination of finger and wrist/arm movement for faster singletapping.
I quoth:The most efficient method of playing singles with your arm that I found is to
Tense up your finger
Lift your wrist from the table a bit
Move your elbow up and your hand down at the same time
Move your elbow down and your hand up at the same time
Repeat last 2 steps. This essentially is rotating your forearm around the point between your elbow and hand back and forth.
The point is, no-one fucking ever plays any singles past 200 bpm by just using their fingers like streaming with one finger.buny wrote:
The most efficient method to playing singles that you can't single tap is to alternate
what's your point?
Using 200 bpm as a counterpoint is just extreme, as players haven't reached that breakpoint yet (I'd say highest NORMAL single tapping is 180bpm)EcksDee wrote:
The point is, no-one fucking ever plays any singles past 200 bpm by just using their fingers like streaming with one finger.buny wrote:
The most efficient method to playing singles that you can't single tap is to alternate
what's your point?
Pls stahp.EcksDee wrote:
The point is, no-one fucking ever plays any singles past 200 bpm by just using their fingers like streaming with one finger.
I said anything above 200 bpm. I can singletap 200bpm easily, of course. Anything under that I can do with just my fingers, anything over that my body involves the wrist and arm.Shirokami- wrote:
@buny i believe when he said 200 bpm singles he meant 1/2 notes which would be 100 bpm 1/4What, but soooo many people can singletap that, that can't possibly be what he means.
Well I'm pretty sure if you can stream 260bpm then you can also do a couple singles on that bpm,but using wrist is so much more reliable/consistent and not half as tiring so why do otherwise? I think what he means is literally the best practice is tapping with your fingers only,but if you really wanted to do a good run youll use your wrist for a certain bpm anyway.EcksDee wrote:
I said anything above 200 bpm. I can singletap 200bpm easily, of course. Anything under that I can do with just my fingers, anything over that my body involves the wrist and arm.
Really that guy doing the image material is the exception not the rule as far as I've seen
It still doesn't matter, because there's no reason to use a less efficient tool just for the sake of using a less efficient tool. No matter how you do it, streaming isn't the same as just adding a second finger to single-tapping; the added motion of the second finger makes them different on a physiological level, and the alteration to the movement as a whole means the muscle memory doesn't transfer. If anything, alternating is much closer to streaming simply because the motions are identical, so alternating very high bpm maps would train everything but your speed, and if you want to train your streaming speed the best way to do it is to stream.buny wrote:
This
Stop comparing single tapping as wrist tapping, it's like saying double tapping is to alternating...
he was referring to the technique of only using your finger to tap not wrist, which he believed could not be used above 200 bpm 1/2, thats why i posted keigoclear [aka who?] playing image materialShirokami- wrote:
@buny i believe when he said 200 bpm singles he meant 1/2 notes which would be 100 bpm 1/4What, but soooo many people can singletap that, that can't possibly be what he means.
nyrox always tells the truthnyrox wrote:
I think singletapping has a more steady improvement because you can always be getting faster.
Alternating, at least for me, gave me a quick spike in improvement but now I'm really struggling to gain speed.
To an alting player a map needs to be either full of streams (good luck diving straight in after building up on singles) or above 400bpm to get some fast 1/2 notes to practice. Good luck to you my friend pushing yourself without spamming deathstream maps constantly. Of course you can go play fast maps which are evidently in abundance, assuming you've learnt to read and aim 400bpm 1/2 full screen jumps in which case I applaud you.NarrillNezzurh wrote:
It still doesn't matter, because there's no reason to use a less efficient tool just for the sake of using a less efficient tool. No matter how you do it, streaming isn't the same as just adding a second finger to single-tapping; the added motion of the second finger makes them different on a physiological level, and the alteration to the movement as a whole means the muscle memory doesn't transfer. If anything, alternating is much closer to streaming simply because the motions are identical, so alternating very high bpm maps would train everything but your speed, and if you want to train your streaming speed the best way to do it is to stream.buny wrote:
This
Stop comparing single tapping as wrist tapping, it's like saying double tapping is to alternating...
You claim that single tapping is beneficial because it allows for faster improvement, but you don't seem to get that the reason it allows for faster improvement is because it pushes the player harder, and that it's entirely possible to get that extra push from alternating by simply playing faster maps. I highly doubt that alternating players hit a "stamina wall," and if they do I'd say it's entirely their own fault for not figuring out how to push through it with the tools available to them. I think it's far more likely they hit an accuracy wall.
Whats wrong with practicing on deathstream maps separatelyjesus1412 wrote:
To an alting player a map needs to be either full of streams (good luck diving straight in after building up on singles) or above 400bpm to get some fast 1/2 notes to practice. Good luck to you my friend pushing yourself without spamming deathstream maps constantly. Of course you can go play fast maps which are evidently in abundance, assuming you've learnt to read and aim 400bpm 1/2 full screen jumps in which case I applaud you.
The problem is most people just don't like deathstream maps straight out. Even 1key players.EcksDee wrote:
Whats wrong with practicing on deathstream maps separatelyjesus1412 wrote:
To an alting player a map needs to be either full of streams (good luck diving straight in after building up on singles) or above 400bpm to get some fast 1/2 notes to practice. Good luck to you my friend pushing yourself without spamming deathstream maps constantly. Of course you can go play fast maps which are evidently in abundance, assuming you've learnt to read and aim 400bpm 1/2 full screen jumps in which case I applaud you.
I mean truth be told im still very much on the fence about that "singletapping fast with your arm/wrist with a stationary finger helps speed up your two finger streaming with a stationary arm/wrist"
I remember you said "it just does", but i'll hold my breath until we see an alter in the top5 players.
May or may not happen, but thats a whole lot of claims being thrown out yknow.
Yeah, I hate deathstreams. Heck, I genuinely hate streaming full stop, but if what I need to do to continue alternating, as that's what feels natural to me, is specifically practice them, then that's what I'm gonna do.jesus1412 wrote:
The problem is most people just don't like deathstream maps straight out. Even 1key players.
And this is a problem unique to alternating players because...jesus1412 wrote:
To an alting player a map needs to be either full of streams (good luck diving straight in after building up on singles) or above 400bpm to get some fast 1/2 notes to practice. Good luck to you my friend pushing yourself without spamming deathstream maps constantly. Of course you can go play fast maps which are evidently in abundance, assuming you've learnt to read and aim 400bpm 1/2 full screen jumps in which case I applaud you.
as in its harder for a full alt to push themselves in stamina/speed because they have to go way faster than a singletapper to reach that speed where it becomes difficult physically.NarrillNezzurh wrote:
And this is a problem unique to alternating players because...jesus1412 wrote:
To an alting player a map needs to be either full of streams (good luck diving straight in after building up on singles) or above 400bpm to get some fast 1/2 notes to practice. Good luck to you my friend pushing yourself without spamming deathstream maps constantly. Of course you can go play fast maps which are evidently in abundance, assuming you've learnt to read and aim 400bpm 1/2 full screen jumps in which case I applaud you.
If you can show why singletapping is somehow better in training your streaming speed, then you might have a case.Bassist Vinyl wrote:
as in its harder for a full alt to push themselves in stamina/speed because they have to go way faster than a singletapper to reach that speed where it becomes difficult physically.
it's limiting
Wrist tapping trains strength in your finger and wrist, but your wrist is mostly affected in terms of speed/stamina gains, not your finger. The gain in finger strength can help to reaffirm muscle memory with the method below. This is done simply by hitting your keyboard harder and playing at or above your limit.tollox wrote:
Could anyone who has successfully managed to increase their singletapping speed comment on the method they used? Did you practice on singletapping maps at the limit of your speed or slightly above? Or did it come naturally by just playing whatever?
Got you covered buddy. Thank ranefire. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... ring#gid=0tollox wrote:
Could anyone who has successfully managed to increase their singletapping speed comment on the method they used? Did you practice on singletapping maps at the limit of your speed or slightly above? Or did it come naturally by just playing whatever?
Also, does anyone have any good maps for singletap practice between 210 and 220 bpm? I can't pass past that barrier.
These are good at 210:
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/27306
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/20328
Sounds like good advice! Gotta work on them wristtaps it seems, there are huge areas outside of my limits.RaneFire wrote:
Wrist tapping trains strength in your finger and wrist, but your wrist is mostly affected in terms of speed/stamina gains, not your finger. The gain in finger strength can help to reaffirm muscle memory with the method below. This is done simply by hitting your keyboard harder and playing at or above your limit.tollox wrote:
Could anyone who has successfully managed to increase their singletapping speed comment on the method they used? Did you practice on singletapping maps at the limit of your speed or slightly above? Or did it come naturally by just playing whatever?
Finger-tapping leads to a direct gain in speed and stamina for your finger, but not much strength, since it is important to maintain a relaxed state in your hand while isolating finger movement, when playing at your limit. This is less important at slower speeds where you can use more strength for each hit and help to reaffirm muscle memory for when you go back to higher speeds (like interchanging slow & fast stream training to improve stream speed).
So use your wrist for things that are faster than you are capable of finger-tapping (above limits). Use finger-tapping on anything within your limits, gradually using more force when things get slower to reaffirm muscle memory and get some moderate finger strength training.
Or you could start lifting and forget all that.
Feel free to disagree, I won't get butthurt, I promise.
Sweet, that's really helpful.jesus1412 wrote:
Got you covered buddy. Thank ranefire. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... ring#gid=0tollox wrote:
Could anyone who has successfully managed to increase their singletapping speed comment on the method they used? Did you practice on singletapping maps at the limit of your speed or slightly above? Or did it come naturally by just playing whatever?
Also, does anyone have any good maps for singletap practice between 210 and 220 bpm? I can't pass past that barrier.
These are good at 210:
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/27306
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/20328
What in the -aizhid wrote:
I regret full alternating.
My accuracy is hopeless and im not raising my limits because maps that are hard overall do not make me push my speed.