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Sephibro

GuyInFreezer wrote:

1. You said your protect on N2 failed. It can't be a roleblock since scum jailkeeper ate a rope D2 and you yourself is a roleblocker.
2. What made you change your stance on DD from "he's the last scum" to "let's keep him alive for today"?
1. the possibilities are i got roleblocked, or i got redirected, or it was a strongman kill
2. because of his claim

we have your dayvig for today, and we might nl and use dake's vig to get rid of the one we want to lynch
Sephibro
oh also, i guessed i was roleblocked because i thought bubba had softed a blocking role here

bubbajack8 wrote:

Navizel wrote:

I'm just a mere Jailkeeper.
Really? You may want to re-think everything you're saying right now.
GuyInFreezer
1. the possibilities are i got roleblocked, or i got redirected, or it was a strongman kill
Yeah but the roleblock and redirect should be out of the possibility for you since, you know, you already have those roles.
Raging Bull
Sooo...

I still see no use for strong willed vig. Rather it might fit more as strongman vig.
bubbajack8

GuyInFreezer wrote:

What's your point?
I'm not a rolecop.

Sephibro wrote:

guys i reread everything once again, here's what i got:

- pieguy and raging bull are easy townreads
- 3 people didn't do anything this game, and they are me, fferyllt and bubba
- scum is in {dake, bubba, fferyllt}

and i made a couple questions to sakura that could help us quite a lot
I disagree.

Sephibro wrote:

oh also, i guessed i was roleblocked because i thought bubba had softed a blocking role here

bubbajack8 wrote:

Really? You may want to re-think everything you're saying right now.
Which has been proven false now.
fferyllt
PROVEN false? How so?
bubbajack8
He's saying he thought I was softing a roleblocker. It's be proven I'm not a role-blocker.
fferyllt
You've claimed some kind of joat with a roleblock ability, right?
GuyInFreezer
Because I want some time after a dayvig to coordinate some stuff, I'm gonna shoot DD in an hour. (Realized that lynching and nl+vig is basically a same thing).
GuyInFreezer
And since this game is going nowhere and we're kinda floating on one of {bubba/DD} anyway
Raging Bull
oh hey im prod material.


vote:Dake

not anymore
Sephibro
no prod pls
Topic Starter
Sakura
Bump
Topic Starter
Sakura
Da Vote Count
DakeDekaane (1) - Raging Bull

Not Voting (6) - fferyllt, DakeDekaane, GuyInFreezer, Bubbajack8, pieguy1372, Sephibro

With 8 votes in play it takes 5 to lynch.

Sorry for lack of vote counts (but you guys werent voting anyways)
bubbajack8

fferyllt wrote:

You've claimed some kind of joat with a roleblock ability, right?
Mo :facepalm: I'm the ability cop. :facepalm:
Raging Bull
prod pieguy


just do it. make him mad.
Topic Starter
Sakura
pieguy1372 has been poked!
GuyInFreezer
Is it hour yet?
Brb charging laz0r
GuyInFreezer
It pains me to do this on one of my fav touhou gal but I have no choice but to murderize Okuu.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA



Eclipse Sign: Twilight Spark - DakeDekaane
GuyInFreezer
Uh I was gonna click preview and do something else on it first
But whatever
Topic Starter
Sakura
Game is paused hold on
Topic Starter
Sakura
"Hey GuyInFreezer we talked about..."

*KABOOOOM*

"... nevermind"




DakeDekaane was Utusho Red Team 1-Shot Strongman Neighbor



GuyInFreezer Mima Green Team Day Vigilante has "survived" and won!



Raging Bull Sanae Green Team Doctor 1-Shot Reviver has survived and won!



fferyllt Yuuka Green Team Double Voter has survived and won!



bubbajack8 Satori Green Team Rolecop Neighbor Encryptor has survived and won!



pieguy1372 Remilia Green Team 1-Shot Executioner 1-Shot Deflector Neighbor has survived and won!



Sephibro Patchoulli Weak Green Team Jack of all Trades Neighbor has survived and won!

In memory of Nyquill, Tanzklaue and NoHitter who also have won...
Topic Starter
Sakura
Day 1 Actions
GuyInFreezer kills Nyquill (Action Succesful)
Sephibro uses Dusk (Deadline shortened)
pieguy1372 Executes GuyInFreezer (Action Succesful)

Night 1 Actions
pieguy1372 Reflects all actions back (Action Succesful)
NoHitter inspects Navizel for metal (Action Succesful) > Metal Found.
Raging Bull protects pieguy1372 (Action Succesful)
bubbajack8 mind reads Navizel (Action Succesful) Result: Gladiator Spellcard
fferylit gets self-watch from sephibro (Action Failed because sephibro is roleblocked)
Navizel jailkeeps sephibro (Action Succesful)
Navizel kills Tanzklaue (Action Succesful)

Raging Bull has received 0 prayers. (Total: 0)

Day 2 Actions
Navizel challenges NoHitter (Action Succesful)

Night 2 Actions
NoHitter scans CalignoBot (Action Succesful Anyway because revivers) Result: Has Metal
Raging Bull protects NoHitter (Action Succesful) <- LOL double protect
DakeDekaane strongman kills NoHitter (Action Succesful) <- ROFL voids all protects because strongman
Sephibro protects NoHitter (Action Succesful) <- LOL double protect

Raging Bull has received 3 prayers (Total: 3)

Night 3 Actions
bubbajack8 rolecops fferyllt (Action Succesful) Result: Double Voter
DakeDekaane kills pieguy1372 (Action fails because Rolestop)
Raging Bull protects self (Action Succesful)
sephibro rolestops pieguy (Action Succesful)

Raging Bull obtains 4 prayers (Total: 7)

Day 4 Actions
GuyInFreezer kills DakeDekaane (Action Succesful)

Setup creation and discussion with Nati: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/EcfUsKASuRk
First Dead QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/QHwT7C5QMV3Z5
Second Dead QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/axj8pmHiCfVh
Neighbors and Scum may post their QTs if they want.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Well Role PMs will have to wait since I don't have much time atm.

Patchoulli: Originally the fire spell card was a vigilante instead of a rolestop, this was nerfed down because Nati thought patchy was "too OP", also the Royal Flare was a loud watcher (it will announce anyone visiting the target at day start) but it was also nerfed down for the same reasons.

Sanae: The treshold of faith was half the ammount of living players at the time the spellcard was used, which means it would've been able to be done anytime as long as it wasn't Day 1, also a faith revival without enough faith would have different flavor referencing that the person revived as a zombie. Doctor was able to self protect too.

Utsuho: Originally was a 1-Shot Strongman Vig, but rolling scum the vig part was redundant so it was removed.

Mima: Ironically Nati was fine with a day vigilante on the scum team regardless if Mima had rolled scum, my plan was that scum wouldn't be able to night kill during the night following the day vig use if Mima rolled scum.

Remilia: The Executionar used to be a "Hated maker" or something it would make the target require 1 less vote to lynch the following day.

Byakuren: tbh i couldn't remember many spellcards from her, so i looked them up and saw that they were based on Good Omens so i gave Byakuren a Good Luck kind of spellcard that would make the target strong willed for the night, this was translated as a motivator so it wasn't a 2x action kind of motivator.

Suika: Really the only think i could think for Suika was her turning into mist and commuting.

Nazrin: Normally a regular gunsmith, would have received False positives regardless of alignment from Utsuho and a Patchoulli that still held her metal sign card, and a person that was protected with the Metal Sign Card. Sanae was False negative regardless of Alignment.
GuyInFreezer
3 OUT OF 3
ON FUCKING DAY 1
GuyInFreezer
Dat selfdoc
pieguyn
sorry about killing you D1 GIF > < I'll let Sakura explain what happened with your role although I will say I was correct in my assumption your role wouldn't change depending on if you rolled scum. hope I made up for it by carrying your torch a bit after you died..
GuyInFreezer
Town had way to many protects
pieguyn
also I was 100% serious when I told Sakura to pick my character randomly. AND I STILL GOT REMI
GuyInFreezer
too*
Tanzklaue
welp

gg town.
GuyInFreezer
My choices


1. MIMA (I WILL MURDER WHOEVER CHOOSE MIMA BEFORE ME)
2. Alice Margatroid
3. Shikieiki Yamaxanadu
Topic Starter
Sakura
Scum had ways to counter almost everything because Navizel was a jailkeeper so he could roleblock, shame he died first, and they had a strongman too just in case. Tbh tho, it was mostly roles before alignment so that influenced a bit on the town power, i was seriously hoping for a town sided gladiator :<
Tanzklaue
suika
nitori
china
pieguyn
1. Remilia Scarlet
2. Ibuki Suika
3. Kamishirasawa Keine

idgaf about order. but I feel like I'm fated to get remilia anyway /runs
gg
Topic Starter
Sakura
Here are all picks if anyone's interested:

sephibro: Patchouli, Sanae, Nue
Navizel: Cirno, Sakuya, Utusho
pieguy1372: Remilia, Suika, Keine
GuyInFreezer: Mima, Alice, Shikieki
DakeDekaane: Utsuho, Reisen, Nitori
Tanzklaue: Suika, Nitori, Meiling
NoHitter: Nazrin, Wriggle, Saigyou Ayakashi
Nyquill: Patchoulli, Byakuren, Aya
fferylit: Yuuka, Hina, Koishi
Bubbajack8: Satori, Meiling, Utsuho
CalignoBot: Genjii, Momiji, Tenshi
Raging Bull Sanae, Utusho, Mokou
Topic Starter
Sakura
Also sephibro's dusk card, the way it was worded it could be used to either extend the deadline or shorten it. It was worded that it would set the deadline at exactly 24h since it's use, which means if used with less than 24h remaining it would give it a boost. I left it up to Sephi how he would've wanted to use it.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Overall i would like to know if you guys liked the roles that came with each character and stuff, considering this is my first upick i was kinda nervous of doing something wrong there.
pieguyn
our neighbor QT btw http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/BDnRvhgRZes

and I liked my role <3 even if I completely screwed up using it
DakeDekaane
Hey, I was the last scum who died, again :D

I enjoyed the game even playing as scum, which I don't like too much, but why Strongman cannot choose when to use the shot? :< (I would've been spotted anyway lol)

btw, the quiet Satori-Utusho QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/vDtwfu2tuHt2u
Topic Starter
Sakura
Also, GiF's role was tailored just for him (lol) his day vigilante came from the fact he needed to make an eclipse happen to shoot whcih is another reason he was day vig instead of regular vig.
Topic Starter
Sakura

DakeDekaane wrote:

Hey, I was the last scum who died, again :D

I enjoyed the game even playing as scum, which I don't like too much, but why Strongman cannot choose when to use the shot? :< (I would've been spotted anyway lol)
Normally you could've chosen when to strongman, but I had already screwed up when i sent you the PM in which you were supposed to be a strongman vig, an oversight on my part which made your first shot auto-strongman.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Other than the obvious mistakes I made, I hope everyone had fun, i'd like some more feedback on balance and stuff aside from the "Town had too many protective roles" thing (which technically isn't true, sephibro had 2 protections and there was 1 doctor with revi-- ok yeah it had too many saves)
Topic Starter
Sakura
On the other hand tho, sephibro's rolestop only worked if his target didnt use an action that night, and RB had to semi-out himself to be able to effectively revive someone.
Tanzklaue
you know my stance about my role.

but it seemed to be enjoyable for most people not named nyquill or me, so it was a good game i'd say :D
Sephibro
easy poe on dake
Sephibro
oh btw the setup was cool, it would have been a very good game if gif didn't hipshoot d1

maybe a bit too townsided
Navizel
welp
gg
Sephibro

Sakura wrote:



Welcome, Patchouli Knowledge
You are part of the Green Team
You control multiple elements and multiple spellcards:
Water Sign - Flood (1-Shot): Can knock a person off balance making their action not hit the intended target but your intended target instead, Select a target to redirect their action to whoever you choose.
Igni Sign - Fire Wall (1-Shot): Creates a firewall near another person, that person can't be visited that night and is only able to be hit by another ability if they visited someone that night
Metal Sign - Iron Wall (1-Shot): Will generate a wall that will block a single night kill
Wood Sign - Entangle (1-Shot): Will root a person making them unable to visit someone
Sun Sign - Royal Flare (1-Shot): Generates a really big light on top of your target, your target will know who targeted them.
Moon Sign - Dusk (1-Shot): Control the flow of the Moon, if used during the day the deadline will be exactly 24h from the point you use this ability, if used during the Night the deadline for night end will be 24h exactly from the momment you use this ability
However with great power comes a great disability:
Weak: Your body is pretty weak and you can't take being surprised, you will die if you target a Red Team member.
You are also part of the Scarlet Mansion Neighborhood with pieguy1372(Remilia): http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/BDnRvhgRZes
You win when all the members of the Red Team are out of the game and at least one member of your team is in the game.

Please confirm in-thread
Sephibro
btw redirector and roleblocker are almost completely useless for a weak modifier character
Tanzklaue

Sephibro wrote:

btw redirector and roleblocker are almost completely useless for a weak modifier character
"let's block town"
Sephibro
at least, they are silly on a self-aware weak character
they are bastard on a hidden weak character
GuyInFreezer

Sephibro wrote:

oh btw the setup was cool, it would have been a very good game if gif didn't hipshoot d1

maybe a bit too townsided
But then I got 3/3 PoE just from the reactions after misvig so yeah

btw I played with the idea of lolshooting sephi and lynching DD when I said I was gonna shoot DD hour later :D

And yeah it was bit townsided.
GuyInFreezer
And I still dont know why you even thought of possibility of being roleblocked or redirected when you already had that power
If I didnt get paranoid off of that I wouldve shot DD yesterday
GuyInFreezer
That patchy role reminds me of a game that I never want to remember
Raging Bull
Nearly want to counter claimdoc when sephi said he protected pieguy haha. You bastard.
Sephibro
i also said i protected NoHitter the day before, you bastard
GuyInFreezer
I just realized that DD didn't have a vig role.
DD what were you gonna do at night if you didn't die today?
Sephibro
he would have been almost confscum the next day

his only option was to say mafia no killed to frame him
Raging Bull

Sephibro wrote:

i also said i protected NoHitter the day before, you bastard
I meant when you protected nh. But well... we both failed anyways haha
Topic Starter
Sakura
Yeah N2 was lolz, you both protecting the same person and scum using strongman.
Raging Bull
Double protect should save nh. :(
Topic Starter
Sakura
His strongman ability clearly stated "Voids all blocks and protects" so no.
DakeDekaane
I was going to say I was being framed, but I was going to lose because PoE, and town too stronk, I should've killed RB instead pieguy, but :[
Scum QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/hvVuYTkiSEzhR
Tanzklaue
i love how you prayed for sanae.
Sephibro

Sakura wrote:

Here are all picks if anyone's interested:

sephibro: Patchouli, Sanae, Nue
Nyquill: Patchoulli, Byakuren, Aya
this is what they call true love
DakeDekaane
Also I underestimated RB's role, that and the poor coordination made scum lose in this one, I think.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Considering you guys almost no actioned N1, yeah.
Topic Starter
Sakura
On another note i actually didn't RNG pieguy's character, and took them in the order he sent them in.
Raging Bull
Haha why did you pray?
fferyllt
Kazami Yuuka

hina kagiama

Koishi Komeiji

green hair because GiF asked me to come play here.
fferyllt
getting a double-vote was kind of ironic, because I am pretty cautious with one vote. I might not have voted at all if my single vote had counted as two. :P0
NoHitter
;_; My good AND bad luck on N2.
pieguyn

calingo scum QT wrote:

I was fully planning on going through with my pieguy case, but him constantly walling against me literally killed any interest I had in continuing it. >_>
that's what you get for trying to lynch me ~

you would never have been able to get me lynched anyway :P
Topic Starter
Sakura
I kinda found it awkward because he was the one who made a wall in the first place.
pieguyn
that's one of the things in my case on him o/

if he didn't wanna wall with me, what was he trying to do with making that wall? his actions didn't match his words and it was really out of place

I've only ever been lynched once as town. you all were there :P
Raging Bull
Nh secret lightning rod d2.
Amianki

CalignoBot wrote:

pieguy1372 wrote:

1. why would that change anything? seems like you just forgot to vote your scum partner and had to make up some BS excuse to cover it

2. how'd you go from "this is town pie" on D1 to here? literally the only thing you said during my GIF push was "this is town pie". it was fencesitting at its finest and now you're backpedaling on it for no reason
1. Just because we have a claimed guilty doesn't mean we should end the day immediately.

2. Your attack on GIF looked really similar to how you attack as town, but look at how you've played D2 so far. Your reads make no sense. Your reason for sephibro being town makes no sense. Hell, your entire plan even makes no sense. The way you attacked GIF is closer to your town play, but when I look back at what you actually said, especially now with him flipping town, it makes a lot more sense from a scum perspective. The reason for attacking GIF is ridiculous, you deathtunneled on getting rid of a very strong town role, and now suddenly you have the game all figured out? It smells like shit.
I don't know what you guys consider as a wall, but this is far from one in my eyes.
Topic Starter
Sakura
So p/2934729 isn't a wall?
Amianki
p/29331160 isn't?
Topic Starter
Sakura
No i mean, look at your next post after the one i linked, right after pieguy counters, that's the irony
bubbajack8
Dake you lied to me.. Q.Q

Then again you never said you were town.
DakeDekaane
I had the intention to claim to you but then I decided to "soft" it here, but that didn't save me, I should've killed RB, even if best buddy :(
Raging Bull
idk, i protected myself. mainly cause i wanted to live to revive
Amianki

Sakura wrote:

No i mean, look at your next post after the one i linked, right after pieguy counters, that's the irony
I said that because he would've gone on for three pages if I indulged him. Then I would've lost any interest in playing this game, everyone else would have lost interest in playing this game, and the rest of the game would have dragged on forever for no reason.

I've gotten into enough wall wars on this site to know how it works. It only ends when someone forces it to end, and they magically always get suspicion for it. That's the irony of the situation.
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