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GuyInFreezer
Also since there's two sets of neighbors the scum is in one of the neighbors anyway.
GuyInFreezer
Actually you know what
fery gimme a name between DD and bubba.
I'll shoot whoever you choose.
fferyllt

GuyInFreezer wrote:

fferyllt wrote:

You're going to shoot me?

I am insulted.
But the game's gonna end before I get to shoot you.
I'm still insulted.
fferyllt

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Actually you know what
fery gimme a name between DD and bubba.
I'll shoot whoever you choose.
How much time do we have. I need to reread/rethink because I have absurdly lminimal meta with them and my plan this game (sadly rekt by you-know-who) was to develop a read on you and sheep if I thought you were town.
GuyInFreezer
I did post in a dead QT that the moment I get revived I would shoot pieguy for the heck of it.
Just gimme an answer by 2 days before the deadline. My daykill ends a day if I shoot then.
Sephibro
we can keep dake alive for the night
GuyInFreezer
We could.
But that would have to end a day with no lynch.
More town controlled death the better.
Sephibro
obv
GuyInFreezer
Where do you stand at this point
Sephibro
i need to sleep and i need to reread some shit too
GuyInFreezer
Wait.
I forgot that this is nati setup and he fucking loves town rolecop.
k my role suspicion on him is cleared.
GuyInFreezer
Also lemme troll pie a bit.
He's a scum commuter who commuted night 3, lolkilled me d1 and bussed CB for towncred.
pieguyn

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Also lemme troll pie a bit.
He's a scum commuter who commuted night 3, lolkilled me d1 and bussed CB for towncred.
yeah you totally got me

what's your reads on ffery and DD?

also we can't clear anyone via roles bc alignments were rolled after roles, although I think RB and sephi are town anyway
GuyInFreezer
Yeah I was totally scum for that "roles before alignment" amirite.
DakeDekaane

pieguy1372 wrote:

the way Dake went about the calingo lynch sucked ass. when I first asked him about calingo he gave no opinion whatsoever, and then when the wagon started he tried to redirect onto RB. he also conveniently sheeped me onto GIF D1

that plus the fact he hasn't used his vig shot at all and POE gives me a solid scumread
vote: DD
How did I give no opinion? Where did I redirect to RB? pieguy pls.

pieguy1372 wrote:

@DD: why have you held your vig shot this whole time?
Rather saving it than lolrandomshooting, right GIF ;)

Also I doubt bubba is scum, it'd be a dick move to vote both of his partner and even out them, imo.
GuyInFreezer

DakeDekaane wrote:

pieguy1372 wrote:

the way Dake went about the calingo lynch sucked ass. when I first asked him about calingo he gave no opinion whatsoever, and then when the wagon started he tried to redirect onto RB. he also conveniently sheeped me onto GIF D1

that plus the fact he hasn't used his vig shot at all and POE gives me a solid scumread
vote: DD
How did I give no opinion? Where did I redirect to RB? pieguy pls.

pieguy1372 wrote:

@DD: why have you held your vig shot this whole time?
Rather saving it than lolrandomshooting, right GIF ;)

Also I doubt bubba is scum, it'd be a dick move to vote both of his partner and even out them, imo.
That lolrandomshoot net me at least two scums by end of D1.
If you're scum too, that means that I got 3/3 by just lolshooting and garnering reactions.
GuyInFreezer
Also I doubt bubba is scum, it'd be a dick move to vote both of his partner and even out them, imo.
For me, if bubba's town, then you're scum.
GuyInFreezer
what's your reads on ffery and DD?
Fery's town but I'm gonna shoot her tomorrow for my personal amusement (if there IS a tomorrow.)
For DD I just wanna shoot him at this point.
GuyInFreezer
At this point, I would rather shoot DD, lynch bubba if DD flips town, and go to the night with sephi wifoming with either protect on me or roleblocking someone.
bubbajack8

Raging Bull wrote:

bubbajack8 wrote:

IN our QT Dake said that they thought Caligno had something bigger in mind, but now they're just stalling. They also said they'd be saving their "cannon" or later, because all the scum roles make sense with theirs. :P
who is they?
Dake. My way of not fucking up male when female or female when male.

Damn GiF you come in here and go back to accusing me as scum. ): Feeling the love.

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Also I personally want bubba dead for the sheer fact that town rolecop looks really useless in this game (all the claims are not alignment-indicative so if bubba is town rolecop... well?)
I'm not a rolecop though.

Hey GiF What happens if me and DD are both town? Shoot pie?
GuyInFreezer
Yeah you are basically a rolecop.
(Or ability cop. Whatever.)
Also keep reading
Raging Bull
I dont see why shoot pie when he essentially put CB on the chopping block ?
fferyllt

GuyInFreezer wrote:

At this point, I would rather shoot DD, lynch bubba if DD flips town, and go to the night with sephi wifoming with either protect on me or roleblocking someone.
Going back through DD's interactions with scum (especially lolrvsvote). Agree with shooting DD.
bubbajack8

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Yeah you are basically a rolecop.
(Or ability cop. Whatever.)
Also keep reading
But ability is non alignment indicative.
GuyInFreezer

Setsuen wrote:

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Hey CB and RB
if y'all join then this game will actually fill
In B4 Nav is scum AGAIN for the 3rd time and get scum-readed by SOMEONE else other than me(Since I'm not joining)
GuyInFreezer

bubbajack8 wrote:

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Yeah you are basically a rolecop.
(Or ability cop. Whatever.)
Also keep reading
But ability is non alignment indicative.
What's your point?
Sephibro
guys i reread everything once again, here's what i got:

- pieguy and raging bull are easy townreads
- 3 people didn't do anything this game, and they are me, fferyllt and bubba
- scum is in {dake, bubba, fferyllt}

and i made a couple questions to sakura that could help us quite a lot
GuyInFreezer
Speaking of questions. answer these too because I decided to play paranoid today.

1. You said your protect on N2 failed. It can't be a roleblock since scum jailkeeper ate a rope D2 and you yourself is a roleblocker.
2. What made you change your stance on DD from "he's the last scum" to "let's keep him alive for today"?
GuyInFreezer
1. You said your protect on N2 failed. It can't be a roleblock since scum jailkeeper ate a rope D2 and you yourself is a roleblocker.
So why was the roleblock one of your guess of failed action? Since you weren't roleblocked, why do you think your action failed?
Sephibro

GuyInFreezer wrote:

1. You said your protect on N2 failed. It can't be a roleblock since scum jailkeeper ate a rope D2 and you yourself is a roleblocker.
2. What made you change your stance on DD from "he's the last scum" to "let's keep him alive for today"?
1. the possibilities are i got roleblocked, or i got redirected, or it was a strongman kill
2. because of his claim

we have your dayvig for today, and we might nl and use dake's vig to get rid of the one we want to lynch
Sephibro
oh also, i guessed i was roleblocked because i thought bubba had softed a blocking role here

bubbajack8 wrote:

Navizel wrote:

I'm just a mere Jailkeeper.
Really? You may want to re-think everything you're saying right now.
GuyInFreezer
1. the possibilities are i got roleblocked, or i got redirected, or it was a strongman kill
Yeah but the roleblock and redirect should be out of the possibility for you since, you know, you already have those roles.
Raging Bull
Sooo...

I still see no use for strong willed vig. Rather it might fit more as strongman vig.
bubbajack8

GuyInFreezer wrote:

What's your point?
I'm not a rolecop.

Sephibro wrote:

guys i reread everything once again, here's what i got:

- pieguy and raging bull are easy townreads
- 3 people didn't do anything this game, and they are me, fferyllt and bubba
- scum is in {dake, bubba, fferyllt}

and i made a couple questions to sakura that could help us quite a lot
I disagree.

Sephibro wrote:

oh also, i guessed i was roleblocked because i thought bubba had softed a blocking role here

bubbajack8 wrote:

Really? You may want to re-think everything you're saying right now.
Which has been proven false now.
fferyllt
PROVEN false? How so?
bubbajack8
He's saying he thought I was softing a roleblocker. It's be proven I'm not a role-blocker.
fferyllt
You've claimed some kind of joat with a roleblock ability, right?
GuyInFreezer
Because I want some time after a dayvig to coordinate some stuff, I'm gonna shoot DD in an hour. (Realized that lynching and nl+vig is basically a same thing).
GuyInFreezer
And since this game is going nowhere and we're kinda floating on one of {bubba/DD} anyway
Raging Bull
oh hey im prod material.


vote:Dake

not anymore
Sephibro
no prod pls
Topic Starter
Sakura
Bump
Topic Starter
Sakura
Da Vote Count
DakeDekaane (1) - Raging Bull

Not Voting (6) - fferyllt, DakeDekaane, GuyInFreezer, Bubbajack8, pieguy1372, Sephibro

With 8 votes in play it takes 5 to lynch.

Sorry for lack of vote counts (but you guys werent voting anyways)
bubbajack8

fferyllt wrote:

You've claimed some kind of joat with a roleblock ability, right?
Mo :facepalm: I'm the ability cop. :facepalm:
Raging Bull
prod pieguy


just do it. make him mad.
Topic Starter
Sakura
pieguy1372 has been poked!
GuyInFreezer
Is it hour yet?
Brb charging laz0r
GuyInFreezer
It pains me to do this on one of my fav touhou gal but I have no choice but to murderize Okuu.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA



Eclipse Sign: Twilight Spark - DakeDekaane
GuyInFreezer
Uh I was gonna click preview and do something else on it first
But whatever
Topic Starter
Sakura
Game is paused hold on
Topic Starter
Sakura
"Hey GuyInFreezer we talked about..."

*KABOOOOM*

"... nevermind"




DakeDekaane was Utusho Red Team 1-Shot Strongman Neighbor



GuyInFreezer Mima Green Team Day Vigilante has "survived" and won!



Raging Bull Sanae Green Team Doctor 1-Shot Reviver has survived and won!



fferyllt Yuuka Green Team Double Voter has survived and won!



bubbajack8 Satori Green Team Rolecop Neighbor Encryptor has survived and won!



pieguy1372 Remilia Green Team 1-Shot Executioner 1-Shot Deflector Neighbor has survived and won!



Sephibro Patchoulli Weak Green Team Jack of all Trades Neighbor has survived and won!

In memory of Nyquill, Tanzklaue and NoHitter who also have won...
Topic Starter
Sakura
Day 1 Actions
GuyInFreezer kills Nyquill (Action Succesful)
Sephibro uses Dusk (Deadline shortened)
pieguy1372 Executes GuyInFreezer (Action Succesful)

Night 1 Actions
pieguy1372 Reflects all actions back (Action Succesful)
NoHitter inspects Navizel for metal (Action Succesful) > Metal Found.
Raging Bull protects pieguy1372 (Action Succesful)
bubbajack8 mind reads Navizel (Action Succesful) Result: Gladiator Spellcard
fferylit gets self-watch from sephibro (Action Failed because sephibro is roleblocked)
Navizel jailkeeps sephibro (Action Succesful)
Navizel kills Tanzklaue (Action Succesful)

Raging Bull has received 0 prayers. (Total: 0)

Day 2 Actions
Navizel challenges NoHitter (Action Succesful)

Night 2 Actions
NoHitter scans CalignoBot (Action Succesful Anyway because revivers) Result: Has Metal
Raging Bull protects NoHitter (Action Succesful) <- LOL double protect
DakeDekaane strongman kills NoHitter (Action Succesful) <- ROFL voids all protects because strongman
Sephibro protects NoHitter (Action Succesful) <- LOL double protect

Raging Bull has received 3 prayers (Total: 3)

Night 3 Actions
bubbajack8 rolecops fferyllt (Action Succesful) Result: Double Voter
DakeDekaane kills pieguy1372 (Action fails because Rolestop)
Raging Bull protects self (Action Succesful)
sephibro rolestops pieguy (Action Succesful)

Raging Bull obtains 4 prayers (Total: 7)

Day 4 Actions
GuyInFreezer kills DakeDekaane (Action Succesful)

Setup creation and discussion with Nati: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/EcfUsKASuRk
First Dead QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/QHwT7C5QMV3Z5
Second Dead QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/axj8pmHiCfVh
Neighbors and Scum may post their QTs if they want.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Well Role PMs will have to wait since I don't have much time atm.

Patchoulli: Originally the fire spell card was a vigilante instead of a rolestop, this was nerfed down because Nati thought patchy was "too OP", also the Royal Flare was a loud watcher (it will announce anyone visiting the target at day start) but it was also nerfed down for the same reasons.

Sanae: The treshold of faith was half the ammount of living players at the time the spellcard was used, which means it would've been able to be done anytime as long as it wasn't Day 1, also a faith revival without enough faith would have different flavor referencing that the person revived as a zombie. Doctor was able to self protect too.

Utsuho: Originally was a 1-Shot Strongman Vig, but rolling scum the vig part was redundant so it was removed.

Mima: Ironically Nati was fine with a day vigilante on the scum team regardless if Mima had rolled scum, my plan was that scum wouldn't be able to night kill during the night following the day vig use if Mima rolled scum.

Remilia: The Executionar used to be a "Hated maker" or something it would make the target require 1 less vote to lynch the following day.

Byakuren: tbh i couldn't remember many spellcards from her, so i looked them up and saw that they were based on Good Omens so i gave Byakuren a Good Luck kind of spellcard that would make the target strong willed for the night, this was translated as a motivator so it wasn't a 2x action kind of motivator.

Suika: Really the only think i could think for Suika was her turning into mist and commuting.

Nazrin: Normally a regular gunsmith, would have received False positives regardless of alignment from Utsuho and a Patchoulli that still held her metal sign card, and a person that was protected with the Metal Sign Card. Sanae was False negative regardless of Alignment.
GuyInFreezer
3 OUT OF 3
ON FUCKING DAY 1
GuyInFreezer
Dat selfdoc
pieguyn
sorry about killing you D1 GIF > < I'll let Sakura explain what happened with your role although I will say I was correct in my assumption your role wouldn't change depending on if you rolled scum. hope I made up for it by carrying your torch a bit after you died..
GuyInFreezer
Town had way to many protects
pieguyn
also I was 100% serious when I told Sakura to pick my character randomly. AND I STILL GOT REMI
GuyInFreezer
too*
Tanzklaue
welp

gg town.
GuyInFreezer
My choices


1. MIMA (I WILL MURDER WHOEVER CHOOSE MIMA BEFORE ME)
2. Alice Margatroid
3. Shikieiki Yamaxanadu
Topic Starter
Sakura
Scum had ways to counter almost everything because Navizel was a jailkeeper so he could roleblock, shame he died first, and they had a strongman too just in case. Tbh tho, it was mostly roles before alignment so that influenced a bit on the town power, i was seriously hoping for a town sided gladiator :<
Tanzklaue
suika
nitori
china
pieguyn
1. Remilia Scarlet
2. Ibuki Suika
3. Kamishirasawa Keine

idgaf about order. but I feel like I'm fated to get remilia anyway /runs
gg
Topic Starter
Sakura
Here are all picks if anyone's interested:

sephibro: Patchouli, Sanae, Nue
Navizel: Cirno, Sakuya, Utusho
pieguy1372: Remilia, Suika, Keine
GuyInFreezer: Mima, Alice, Shikieki
DakeDekaane: Utsuho, Reisen, Nitori
Tanzklaue: Suika, Nitori, Meiling
NoHitter: Nazrin, Wriggle, Saigyou Ayakashi
Nyquill: Patchoulli, Byakuren, Aya
fferylit: Yuuka, Hina, Koishi
Bubbajack8: Satori, Meiling, Utsuho
CalignoBot: Genjii, Momiji, Tenshi
Raging Bull Sanae, Utusho, Mokou
Topic Starter
Sakura
Also sephibro's dusk card, the way it was worded it could be used to either extend the deadline or shorten it. It was worded that it would set the deadline at exactly 24h since it's use, which means if used with less than 24h remaining it would give it a boost. I left it up to Sephi how he would've wanted to use it.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Overall i would like to know if you guys liked the roles that came with each character and stuff, considering this is my first upick i was kinda nervous of doing something wrong there.
pieguyn
our neighbor QT btw http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/BDnRvhgRZes

and I liked my role <3 even if I completely screwed up using it
DakeDekaane
Hey, I was the last scum who died, again :D

I enjoyed the game even playing as scum, which I don't like too much, but why Strongman cannot choose when to use the shot? :< (I would've been spotted anyway lol)

btw, the quiet Satori-Utusho QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/vDtwfu2tuHt2u
Topic Starter
Sakura
Also, GiF's role was tailored just for him (lol) his day vigilante came from the fact he needed to make an eclipse happen to shoot whcih is another reason he was day vig instead of regular vig.
Topic Starter
Sakura

DakeDekaane wrote:

Hey, I was the last scum who died, again :D

I enjoyed the game even playing as scum, which I don't like too much, but why Strongman cannot choose when to use the shot? :< (I would've been spotted anyway lol)
Normally you could've chosen when to strongman, but I had already screwed up when i sent you the PM in which you were supposed to be a strongman vig, an oversight on my part which made your first shot auto-strongman.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Other than the obvious mistakes I made, I hope everyone had fun, i'd like some more feedback on balance and stuff aside from the "Town had too many protective roles" thing (which technically isn't true, sephibro had 2 protections and there was 1 doctor with revi-- ok yeah it had too many saves)
Topic Starter
Sakura
On the other hand tho, sephibro's rolestop only worked if his target didnt use an action that night, and RB had to semi-out himself to be able to effectively revive someone.
Tanzklaue
you know my stance about my role.

but it seemed to be enjoyable for most people not named nyquill or me, so it was a good game i'd say :D
Sephibro
easy poe on dake
Sephibro
oh btw the setup was cool, it would have been a very good game if gif didn't hipshoot d1

maybe a bit too townsided
Navizel
welp
gg
Sephibro

Sakura wrote:



Welcome, Patchouli Knowledge
You are part of the Green Team
You control multiple elements and multiple spellcards:
Water Sign - Flood (1-Shot): Can knock a person off balance making their action not hit the intended target but your intended target instead, Select a target to redirect their action to whoever you choose.
Igni Sign - Fire Wall (1-Shot): Creates a firewall near another person, that person can't be visited that night and is only able to be hit by another ability if they visited someone that night
Metal Sign - Iron Wall (1-Shot): Will generate a wall that will block a single night kill
Wood Sign - Entangle (1-Shot): Will root a person making them unable to visit someone
Sun Sign - Royal Flare (1-Shot): Generates a really big light on top of your target, your target will know who targeted them.
Moon Sign - Dusk (1-Shot): Control the flow of the Moon, if used during the day the deadline will be exactly 24h from the point you use this ability, if used during the Night the deadline for night end will be 24h exactly from the momment you use this ability
However with great power comes a great disability:
Weak: Your body is pretty weak and you can't take being surprised, you will die if you target a Red Team member.
You are also part of the Scarlet Mansion Neighborhood with pieguy1372(Remilia): http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/BDnRvhgRZes
You win when all the members of the Red Team are out of the game and at least one member of your team is in the game.

Please confirm in-thread
Sephibro
btw redirector and roleblocker are almost completely useless for a weak modifier character
Tanzklaue

Sephibro wrote:

btw redirector and roleblocker are almost completely useless for a weak modifier character
"let's block town"
Sephibro
at least, they are silly on a self-aware weak character
they are bastard on a hidden weak character
GuyInFreezer

Sephibro wrote:

oh btw the setup was cool, it would have been a very good game if gif didn't hipshoot d1

maybe a bit too townsided
But then I got 3/3 PoE just from the reactions after misvig so yeah

btw I played with the idea of lolshooting sephi and lynching DD when I said I was gonna shoot DD hour later :D

And yeah it was bit townsided.
GuyInFreezer
And I still dont know why you even thought of possibility of being roleblocked or redirected when you already had that power
If I didnt get paranoid off of that I wouldve shot DD yesterday
GuyInFreezer
That patchy role reminds me of a game that I never want to remember
Raging Bull
Nearly want to counter claimdoc when sephi said he protected pieguy haha. You bastard.
Sephibro
i also said i protected NoHitter the day before, you bastard
GuyInFreezer
I just realized that DD didn't have a vig role.
DD what were you gonna do at night if you didn't die today?
Sephibro
he would have been almost confscum the next day

his only option was to say mafia no killed to frame him
Raging Bull

Sephibro wrote:

i also said i protected NoHitter the day before, you bastard
I meant when you protected nh. But well... we both failed anyways haha
Topic Starter
Sakura
Yeah N2 was lolz, you both protecting the same person and scum using strongman.
Raging Bull
Double protect should save nh. :(
Topic Starter
Sakura
His strongman ability clearly stated "Voids all blocks and protects" so no.
DakeDekaane
I was going to say I was being framed, but I was going to lose because PoE, and town too stronk, I should've killed RB instead pieguy, but :[
Scum QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/hvVuYTkiSEzhR
Tanzklaue
i love how you prayed for sanae.
Sephibro

Sakura wrote:

Here are all picks if anyone's interested:

sephibro: Patchouli, Sanae, Nue
Nyquill: Patchoulli, Byakuren, Aya
this is what they call true love
DakeDekaane
Also I underestimated RB's role, that and the poor coordination made scum lose in this one, I think.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Considering you guys almost no actioned N1, yeah.
Topic Starter
Sakura
On another note i actually didn't RNG pieguy's character, and took them in the order he sent them in.
Raging Bull
Haha why did you pray?
fferyllt
Kazami Yuuka

hina kagiama

Koishi Komeiji

green hair because GiF asked me to come play here.
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