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Sakura

Tanzklaue wrote:

yes.

why blindly follow him?
2 reasons.
1) He's like confirmed town now.
2) I also had my suspicions on RB tho i was more wary of Gumica.
Tanzklaue
confirmed town doesn't make his reads right.

present good reasons for your vote please.
Amianki
Were there reasons stated or just reads?
Sakura
Something about a hasty scum painting for him getting on your wagon, it was mostly me explaining my reads to him than him giving any explaining tho, i almost thought he was scum neighborizer.
Raging Bull
prod dodge.

will try to post from phone at work.

Vote:Zexion


@Sakura and I corrected myself since I misread nyquill for putting him L-2 because I only noticed he said L2 somewhere along.
Tanzklaue
redo, rb: please state your reasons for your votes.
Topic Starter
GuyInFreezer
Votecount 2.01

Zexion (L-2): rEdo | Raging Bull
Raging Bull (L-3): Sakura

Not Voting: Tanzklaue, Zexion, CalignoBot, Gumica

With 7 alive, 4 votes to lynch.

The deadline is March 24, 8:45 PM EDT and approx. 5 Days 9 Hours 15 Minutes left from this post.
Zexion
Prod dodge. Will post at night with my ideas.
rEdo

Tanzklaue wrote:

redo, rb: please state your reasons for your votes.
Soon.
Raging Bull
Was going to prod dodge, but last few posts werealso prod dodge. I'm almost going to be active Friday (Thursday ish for US timezone) since I have a huge test today.



I stated my reason for my vote earlier Tanz, Zexion looked as if he was rolefishing further into Dake's role after Dake gave out vrrrmm. I don't see town motivation from it at all.

@Sakura, why was it mostly you were explaining reads if you thought nyquill was scum neighborizer?
Tanzklaue
drod podge.

this game is so slow paced.
Gumica
*Gumica also prod dodging.

Zexion, do write your PoW now, kthx.
Amianki
I'm way too out of touch with this game. I might have to reread some things.
Zexion
I think I already wrote the reasons why RB's theory is just an exaggeration: I wouldn't be able to get Dake's role that way, it was a joke. I don't know what else to say about this, please think before following this mindlessly.

I still think Gumica might be scum, maybe further into this day I could get better reads. Its kinda late now so I'll try to post more tommorow, hopefully more people will post e_e
Sakura
prod dodge becase it's what cool kids do these days.... just kidding.
I still want Gumica dead, but i kind of want to follow my Neighbor partner for now and see where that goes.

@RB: I was explaining reads because he asked, i thought he was scum so I never revealed my full role to him.
Topic Starter
GuyInFreezer
Votecount 2.02

Zexion (L-2): rEdo | Raging Bull
Raging Bull (L-3): Sakura

Not Voting: Tanzklaue, Zexion, CalignoBot, Gumica

With 7 alive, 4 votes to lynch.

The deadline is March 24, 8:45 PM EDT and approx. 4 Days 8 Hours 33 Minutes left from this post.

I am very proud of you guys' ability to prod dodge enough for me to not prod you guys. keep up the good work
Tanzklaue
thank you gif, the years of training under the waterfall finally show thir usefulness.

also sakura do you have any arguments of your own for voting RB?
Sakura
Not lynching Gumica and making half assed reasons for hammering DD.
rEdo

GuyInFreezer wrote:

I am very proud of you guys' ability to prod dodge enough for me to not prod you guys. keep up the good work
*focuses all his strength to do it yet again*

Tanzklaue, I still need time.
Tanzklaue

Sakura wrote:

Not lynching Gumica and making half assed reasons for hammering DD.
i think lynching gumica would be more of a scumtell honestly.
Sakura

Tanzklaue wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Not lynching Gumica and making half assed reasons for hammering DD.
i think lynching gumica would be more of a scumtell honestly.
Why0s that.
Tanzklaue
because gumica was the more useless lynch of the two.

also gumica rubs me off as town completely based on how terribly awful he is at mafia and how terrible his temper is.
Gumica
@Sakura;
But why going after RB when you could easily go after me again? Considering that we were about the same grade of scum-level, RB was surely under pressure. I don't really thing going after him without any evidence is legitimate here.
Gumica
Considering we were = me and DD*
Sakura

Gumica wrote:

@Sakura;
But why going after RB when you could easily go after me again? Considering that we were about the same grade of scum-level, RB was surely under pressure. I don't really thing going after him without any evidence is legitimate here.
Why do you consider it easy?
Gumica
Don't evade my question.
Vote: Sakura

And easily because you're keen on killing me, but you went after RB
Sakura

Gumica wrote:

Don't evade my question.
Vote: Sakura

And easily because you're keen on killing me, but you went after RB
being keen on killing you =/= you being easy to lynch, why do you think otherwise?
Sakura
On another note, you weren't the "same-grade" scum level, you're much more likely scum to me, if you want to put pressure on me that's what you should be aiming at.
Zexion
Hey guys.

I do not know what to say. I have a feeling who may be scum but no reasons to back up any of my claims, maybe because of the slow-paced game? I'm sorry :c

Btw I replied two times about the votes agaist me and got no reply, so I don't really get why rEdo and RB still want to lynch me.
Sakura
At least share your gut feeling with the rest then.
Raging Bull
Ill post later. Just gotta finish work!
Raging Bull

Zexion wrote:

I think I already wrote the reasons why RB's theory is just an exaggeration: I wouldn't be able to get Dake's role that way, it was a joke. I don't know what else to say about this, please think before following this mindlessly.
Tell me how you cant get his role?

Tbh i did think he was BD because of vvrrrrmmm. Gif really made it rather interesting when he trolled with vacuum cleaner
Raging Bull
I didnt think gumica would be easy lynch if we focus on his behavior solely. No tunnel vision pls.
Raging Bull
I think he would be*
Gumica
After your provocations on Day 1, w
hat makes you think I'd think otherwise?
Raging Bull
Why the hell not lynching Gumica is a scumtell? You don't think Gumica played more town at the end? Sorry for not lynching your own scum read, Sakura. Seems like you are taking it personally.
Sakura
Idc if you didnt lynch gumica, i care that you lynched Dake who was being obvtown all over the place.
Amianki
What's the case on Zexion?
Tanzklaue

Sakura wrote:

Idc if you didnt lynch gumica, i care that you lynched Dake who was being obvtown all over the place.
i see it the other way around lol.
Raging Bull
Yet you presented no argument before my hammer nor try to convince me at all. In fact, no one even did because everyone wants to be inactive as fuck.
Tanzklaue

CalignoBot wrote:

What's the case on Zexion?
something something rolefishing something something.

complete bull if you ask me. we still haven't heard from redo though.
Raging Bull
imo, scum should be either Dake or Zexion. Dake had that odd reaction while Zexion looked like he rolefished. I didn't see town motivation on both end but I do not see them both being scum together.
Raging Bull
I still don't know why is it bull. What do you think of Zexion at this point then tanz?
Sakura

Tanzklaue wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Idc if you didnt lynch gumica, i care that you lynched Dake who was being obvtown all over the place.
i see it the other way around lol.
Considering how hard it was to get Gumica Lynched (His wagon stalled at L-1 all day lol) and how DakeDekaane was a counterwagon that rose to L-1 at lightning speed it should have been obvious who was the scum of the 2, in fact i'm betting 1-2 scum were on Dake's wagon.
Sakura

GuyInFreezer wrote:

DakeDekaane (Lynch): CalignoBot | Tanzklaue | Nyquill | Gumica | Raging Bull
Nyquill is dead, I got a Town read on CB and Tanz, who are the other 2.
Tanzklaue

Raging Bull wrote:

I still don't know why is it bull. What do you think of Zexion at this point then tanz?
deadnull.
Amianki
Rolefishing is the case on Zexion...?
Tanzklaue

CalignoBot wrote:

Rolefishing is the case on Zexion...?
apparently.
Tanzklaue

Sakura wrote:

GuyInFreezer wrote:

DakeDekaane (Lynch): CalignoBot | Tanzklaue | Nyquill | Gumica | Raging Bull
Nyquill is dead, I got a Town read on CB and Tanz, who are the other 2.
i too townread CB, and gumica ofc. I will review the case of RB.
Raging Bull

Sakura wrote:

Considering how hard it was to get Gumica Lynched (His wagon stalled at L-1 all day lol) and how DakeDekaane was a counterwagon that rose to L-1 at lightning speed it should have been obvious who was the scum of the 2, in fact i'm betting 1-2 scum were on Dake's wagon.
Because I didn't find Gumica scummy at the end at all. Even if Gumica is at L-1 again, I won't do shit to my town read.

And holy shit "lightling fast speed" You do realize 4 freaken days to lynch dake.

p/2930735 first vote by CB
p/2930770 Second vote by Tanz ~30 minutes apart
p/2930811 Third vote by Nyquill ~ 20 minutes apart

Then it dragged onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn till ~4 days later when Gumica voted and when I hammered. 4 days to make an argument on why Gumica over DD.
Topic Starter
GuyInFreezer
Votecount 2.03

Zexion (L-2): rEdo | Raging Bull
Raging Bull (L-3): Sakura
Sakura (L-3): Gumica

Not Voting: Tanzklaue, Zexion, CalignoBot

With 7 alive, 4 votes to lynch.

The deadline is March 24, 8:45 PM EDT and approx. 2 Days 22 Hours 59 Minutes left from this post.
Amianki
If I'm looking at the right thing (the 'car' speculation?), then I don't see how that's scummy enough to be worth a vote by itself. Actually... I don't really understand what's scummy about it at all.
Raging Bull
I thought he was fishing for bus driver.
Amianki
Nothing in his post gave the impression that he was fishing for a bus driver at all. Interesting that you would make that connection.
Raging Bull
Is it really just me that fucking reads that as rolefishing. God damn.
Amianki
I want that question answered by everyone.

Dead serious here.
Tanzklaue
what question?
Amianki

Raging Bull wrote:

Is it really just me that fucking reads that as rolefishing. God damn.
This one.

It wasn't phrased as a question, but I want it answered anyway.
Tanzklaue
i don't see any rolefishing in zexions posts.
rEdo
God, I'm so out of this game. I will reread this in a while.
Raging Bull
Cant express tone over internet, but i typed it as is it just me that reads it as rolefishing(because i am bad?)god damn.
Sakura
@RB: Even tho DD's wagon also stalled on L-1 for a while, Gumica's wagon has been a thing since almost the very start of the day, if you don't think Gumica's scum, then that means that at least 1 of CB and Tanz should be scum, unless you think DD's wagon was purely town driven which is impossible.
Sakura
a.k.a who from the wagon do you think is scum.
Zexion
CB and Sakura are my townreads right now. I suspect either Gumica or RB may be scum, but again, those are my gut feelings. (I just disliked RB's reason for hammering Dake).

I'm glad people realize I wasn't rolefishing... I didn't even know what that was.
Amianki
Sakura pls
Raging Bull

Sakura wrote:

@RB: Even tho DD's wagon also stalled on L-1 for a while, Gumica's wagon has been a thing since almost the very start of the day, if you don't think Gumica's scum, then that means that at least 1 of CB and Tanz should be scum, unless you think DD's wagon was purely town driven which is impossible.
Oh? Not at lightling fast speed anymore huh? The wagon, like you said, started at the very start of the day. Anyone hamering Gumica that early would almost be basically screaming scum. And explain why hammering Gumica would be a better tell for you besides dake being an obv town tell to you. Despite being a counter wagon already, he was L-2 for a long time. Yet you STILL were suspicious of him. It was probably when I hammered that you were like "yeah obv town"

You did nothing at all to help Dake wagon despite being obv town. Why? If he was town and if you were town, would you not try to help?

I don't think Dake wagon was purely town driven. If I were to guess, probably tanz for his vote after CB voted.

Also still like people to answer CBs question. If people really don't notice the fishing, then I have nothing on him.
Raging Bull
nvm
unvote
Sakura
My reaction when i read Dake's post (OMFG not bus drivers again!)
My reaction to Zexion's post (Well duh)
My next post shows my paranoia with bus drivers.

Clearly why I didn't think Zexion was role fishing i had that impression from Dake's soft claim.
Sakura
Everyone was voting at the end of Day 1, there were 2 wagons, the one that was hammered was a townie, there's going to be at least 1 scum there but most probably both, as i doubt both wagons were on town, considering Dake was a coutnerwagon to gumica, otherwise scum could've easily jumped from Dake's wagon to Gumica at any point in time near deadline.
Raging Bull
its fine, you don't have to answer everything I wrote.

also this

p/2930846/
Sakura
You're right that makes your hammer on Dake look even worse *points to your post right below*
Raging Bull
Oh, so you think both wagons were not both town. Dake flipped town. So what's left is Gumica as scum, yet you vote me. So contradictory. ,so why the vote on me then?

please don't deflect.
Sakura
I think both you and Gumica are scum, why does it matter which one I vote?
Raging Bull
Also, explain the association between Gumica and I.
Sakura
Both on Dake's wagon at the end of the day, you not wanting to bus your partner at the end of the day, and you refusing to do any sort of wagon analysis when asked because you know it puts you in a worse position.
Sakura
So I guess you could say it's a combination of PoE + Me scumreading Gumica and you for starters.
Tanzklaue
gonna reread as soon as i'm done with my saturday chores
Raging Bull

Sakura wrote:

Both on Dake's wagon at the end of the day, you not wanting to bus your partner at the end of the day, and you refusing to do any sort of wagon analysis when asked because you know it puts you in a worse position.

Right because I really want to put my partner at L-1. I don't understand why you only read Gumica and I as scum right now.
All you keep saying is not lynching Gumica.
All you keep saying is not lynching Gumica.
All you keep saying is not lynching Gumica.
All you keep saying is not lynching Gumica.


Also I don't recall anyone asking me to do any sort of wagon analysis. Could be wrong though. I just had a definite scum read at that time but now everyone made me doubt myself since it really was just me reading Zexion as role fishing.

Vote:Sakura

I had you more as null town at the end of D1, but now all this deflecting and can only associate me and Gumica as not hammering Gumica is scum tell. Still don't want to explain why Dake was obv town and did not defend nor try to convince anyone. Waited for my hammer instead.
rEdo
Vote: Sakura
Topic Starter
GuyInFreezer
Votecount 2.04

Raging Bull (L-3): Sakura
Sakura (L-1): Gumica | Raging Bull | rEdo

Not Voting: Tanzklaue, Zexion, CalignoBot

With 7 alive, 4 votes to lynch.

The deadline is March 24, 8:45 PM EDT and approx. 2 Days 10 Hours 25 Minutes left from this post.
Sakura
Oh look, both scum are on my wagon too now.
Sakura
Also I already said Dake was a counterwagon to Gumica, which is why he was obvtown.
Raging Bull
whats that vote for redo?
Tanzklaue
reread RB's iso.

except the zexion case that was pulled out of a anus there isn't much that rubs me the wrong way.

sakura on the other hand had that flashwagon on CB early on day 1 (which was okay, discussion needs to come from somewhere), then snaps at RB for a very short while, then votse gumica and deathtunnels him until today where she deathtunnels RB.

i never saw sakura as a deathtunnel person, she is more a all over the place player as town.

also redo giving no reasons for any of his votes is very suspicious too.
Sakura
Well that's BS, a wagon on town doesn't stall the way Gumica's wagon did, there's clearly some scum agenda there, with the sudden counter wagon on Dake and all.
Sakura
Also do note that if Gumica was actually town, scum wouldn't have hesistated to jump wagon into him since he's so easy to lynch otherwise.
Zexion

Tanzklaue wrote:

reread RB's iso.

except the zexion case that was pulled out of a anus there isn't much that rubs me the wrong way.

sakura on the other hand had that flashwagon on CB early on day 1 (which was okay, discussion needs to come from somewhere), then snaps at RB for a very short while, then votse gumica and deathtunnels him until today where she deathtunnels RB.

i never saw sakura as a deathtunnel person, she is more a all over the place player as town.

also redo giving no reasons for any of his votes is very suspicious too.
So is Death-Tunneling Sakura a rare thing? You guys have me at a disadvantage here, since this my second game in here.

How are you so sure about your reads, RB? Also, rEdo has voted two times without any explaination, and that sounds really wrong to me. Vote: rEdo
Tanzklaue
what if his easy lynchability/manipulativity is the reason that scum wants him to live?

honestly the only reason I'd lynch gumica is because regardless of alignment he probably is more useful to scum.

i mean, the way that town plays mafia on this ite is usually giving scum all the freespace to do whatever they want, i definitely see scum taking advantage of gumica in this case.
Sakura
btw There are some scum that do use the "Too scummy to be scum" strategy. Anyhow if Gumica is Town which is a really long stretch i'd buy that there was a scum on his wagon, otherwise i don't see a reason for scum to bus gumica in a 7v2 setup, however if Gumica was town he'd have been lynched yesterday so... *shrug*
Sakura
Unless there's a reason for CB to be scum RB and Gumica are like confirmed scum to me.
Tanzklaue
i'm fine with a gumica lynhc because his utility to scum is too high, even though i'm pretty sure that he isn't scum.

but ii think the best lynch for today would actually be redo.
rEdo
All these were reaction tests.

Apparently Sakura wasn't moved with a vote on me, however she did let us know that she acknowledged it. I like that.

But, just look at Zexion - simply waiting for people to start gathering around me, so he can happily cast a vote without bringing much attention to himself. After rereading the whole thread I noticed that this is the thing that he's been doing whole game. He also wanted to lynch Gumica, but when it came to the point where both Dake and Gumica were at L-1, he didn't care which one Raging Bull's gonna vote. Not to mention that he almost completely ignored my vote on him.

Unvote;
Vote: Zexion
Tanzklaue
you're reaction testing too much and scumhunt too little redo.
Sakura
Seems like "Reaction test" is becoming too common of an excuse for back pedaling these days.
Tanzklaue
nah he jsut learned from farto.

if you don't really know what you're doing right now, it's a reaction test.
Sakura
And here's why RB needs to die.

Point: DD's wagon was counterwagon to Gumica.
Fact: DD flipped Town.
Point: DD was way easier to lynch than Gumica because anti-town = town instead of scum nowadays.
Fact: RB Agrees that DD's wagon was pushed by scum. Ref: p/2951105/
Point: RB refuses to scumhunt within the DD wagon even tho he agrees to being scum in there.
Point: RB votes instead someone that was outside of the wagon because i'm calling BS on his logic.

I'm having a townread on CB/Tanz and a scumread on Gumica, i obviously dont think scum bus'd at the end of D1 (suprise surprise i was also scumreading Nyquill before he died), who's left on that wagon RB.

FMPoV Raging Bull is confirmed scum along with Gumica and this is why

Yet he refuses to address this and keeps misdirecting elsewhere, which is clearly a scum tactic, RB needs to die ASAP.
Tanzklaue
well, that's some convincing points there on RB.

Vote: RB
i still think that gumica is a VI extravaganza. ho outsiede the DD wagon would you read scum if gumica wouldn't be scum in your eyes sakura?
Sakura
Even if Gumica's town that would mean it's likely 1 scum in either wagon, which still doesn't clear RB.
So i would be looking at the other wagon, since Gumica being VI would be a goddamn easy town lynch to achieve for scum, from that wagon only rEdo pings me. here's the wagon for reference:

Gumica (L-1): Sakura | Zexion | rEdo | DakeDekaane
Sakura
Also if i'm wrong about my townreads on DD's wagon it would be CB imo.
Tanzklaue
redo would be my number 1 candidate besides RB too.
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