was this post necessary?Tanzklaue wrote:
I don't know why in games i play the investigative roles always die first.
that post was simply saying that i experienced the death of investigative roles on day1 multiple times. yeah, there is still the probability of watcher and/or tracker, but losing the cop in night 1 is... suboptimal.Sephibro wrote:
{farto, calignobot, pieguy, tanz} i think that 2 scum are among these
vote1: fartownikwas this post necessary?Tanzklaue wrote:
I don't know why in games i play the investigative roles always die first.
think again about the setup
also me and jinxy asked that alreadyRaging Bull wrote:
@Mod, do you mind if you post your own ISO?
it looks more like an attempt to get some towncredTanzklaue wrote:
that post was simply saying that i experienced the death of investigative roles on day1 multiple times. yeah, there is still the probability of watcher and/or tracker, but losing the cop in night 1 is... suboptimal.
Raging Bull wrote:
wat the hell does that have to do with anything.
I am sorry if I seemed to go just along with the flow, though I can assure you that wasn't my intention. I still think my reasons for voting farto were legit, I personally don't think the reasons were so weak o.o also I've already explained why I jumped in Jinxy's vagon.Raging Bull wrote:
FoS on Kevin
I feel like he's just going along with the flow from Jinxy wagon and to a lesser extend with him voting on fartownik. Even though the massclaim was controversial, it seemed like he just voted for him and see if fartownik would get lynched.
Osu!arcade machine? Wow.Sephibro wrote:
oh look at what i found
Raging Bull wrote:
wat the hell does that have to do with anything.
no they're frostmourne and raging bullCTs-Th wrote:
Osu!arcade machine? Wow.
@kevincela and rEdo tooSephibro wrote:
btw, mind to post some content? you barely posted any so far
)add rEdo, he hasn't posted in 3 days on this topicSephibro wrote:
{farto, calignobot, pieguy, tanz} i think that 2 scum are among these
Because I was 100% sure that fartownik was by far the best kill target at that point in time.-kevincela- wrote:
oh yeah, Caligno's vote on fartownik right in the end on D1 is quite suspicious, as he claimed various times he wasn't going to take part in the plan of "voting to make someone lynched by Jinxy", or am I wrong? What made you change idea and directly vote fartownik, Caligno?
:D:D:i don't see such a strong association between themCalignoBot wrote:
1. We should definitely lynch one of fartownik+rEdo, but NOT both. There's a significant amount of information in one that will be lost if we kill both.
Well his reaction to me seemed very towny since he was rather confused on why people started claiming him as conf town, especially since Calingo and I voted for him and he's like wtf why me.-kevincela- wrote:
Oh, one thing that I noticed is that some of you guys claimed CTs to be town thanks to "his reaction" at D1. But... are we really sure a scum couldn't act like that as well? It doesen't really seem a really good reason to claim he is actually a townie. Also, if my reasons and Irre's ones are "weak" on accusing fartownik, then also CTs' reasons don't seem to be that solid either, as he said in the post aboce "I voted farto because he said pieguy is scum". I'm starting to suspect him a bit there...
this whole post actually makes no sense at allCTs-Th wrote:
It's my first time playing King Maker.
That's why I just want to stay back and watch.
Btw, my reason for voting farto wasn't clear.
For his meta, he usually said "xxx is scum/my partner" before he really flipped scum. I just hope that it'll be the same in this game.
(In fact, I rather don't like his scumpaint method, it just make me wanna lynch him even he's town or not.)
Exam this week, hopefully I can post some content soon or later.
CalignoBot wrote:
If this guy flips scum, we're lynching rEdo tomorrow. They had similar methods of trying to brute force their opinion across and rEdo's every mention of fartownik in this post is literally fluff.
why me? also, why tanz?Sephibro wrote:
{farto, calignobot, pieguy, tanz} i think that 2 scum are among these
farto is still scum. my read on jinxy was based off farto, but seems it was me being paranoid. the connection was they rushed a wagon on Jinxy and then Jinxy chose Nyquill over farto when it was even. Jinxy was null independently of farto. explain the farto + tanz association?Raging Bull wrote:
Hmm
@pieguy, jumping back on this post of yours https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/2772259 Jinxy is town, so what now about farto? I'm not seeing much connection between farto and jinxy in the first place. If there was supposedly a connection, I would assume farto and tanz instead.
I thought they were both scum > <CTs-Th wrote:
Gosh, I kept confusing about day1 topic.
I don't know why pieguy said jinxy+farto even he suspected farto,as fuck.
And, I voted farto because he said that pieguy is scum.
I'll need to read everything again before I vote the second one. Exam's coming up. (Right after new year
I'm scared of this post. it seems like flow-going 0.0 first he disagreed with the idea that the reasons were weak, then when he changed his mind he redirected onto CTs. explain why you changed your mind plz?-kevincela- wrote:
Oh, one thing that I noticed is that some of you guys claimed CTs to be town thanks to "his reaction" at D1. But... are we really sure a scum couldn't act like that as well? It doesen't really seem a really good reason to claim he is actually a townie. Also, if my reasons and Irre's ones are "weak" on accusing fartownik, then also CTs' reasons don't seem to be that solid either, as he said in the post aboce "I voted farto because he said pieguy is scum". I'm starting to suspect him a bit there...
thisCalignoBot wrote:
2. If we ever want a lurker lynch, I don't think we'll get a better day to.
explain plzRaging Bull wrote:
vote2:pieguy
what exactly is your read on CTs?Sephibro wrote:
this whole post actually makes no sense at all
Yup, it's a prod dodge.Sephibro wrote:
this whole post actually makes no sense at all
Sorry, I didn't explain that.-kevincela- wrote:
I started suspecting CTs because most of you were considering him town when he also jumped on the Jinxy wagon without explaining any reason and his reasons to vote fartownik where even weaker than mines and Irre's ones that you guys already consider weak.?
No more that this. Lied. I voted him so that I don't have to be a leader too. Seriously, a newbie like me is a leader?CTs-Th wrote:
I almost forgot...
Vote: Jinxy
So we can take a vote seriously from now on.
i should see him scum once, his playstyle has been similar through all the games he played so far, and since he's a newbie i think it would be very noticeable if he rolled scumpieguy1372 wrote:
what exactly is your read on CTs?
No more that this. Lied. I voted him so that I don't have to be a leader too. Seriously, a newbie like me is a leader?[/quote]CTs-Th wrote:
I almost forgot...
Vote: Jinxy
So we can take a vote seriously from now on.
1. Both tried to stifle discussion in the same way. If mafia formulated a plan, I could see more than one of them trying to make sure nothing interferes with that plan at any cost.Sephibro wrote:
i should see him scum once, his playstyle has been similar through all the games he played so far, and since he's a newbie i think it would be very noticeable if he rolled scumpieguy1372 wrote:
what exactly is your read on CTs?
Caligno: would you show me exactly what made that association so strong to you?
I'll have to answer this after reading again. I may or may not have been tunneling a bit. Only real read I can give you off-hand is that CTs is firmly in null territory now, maaaaaybe a small amount of scum in it. It's not enough to make me excited about lynching him, but it's enough if I can't get any solid reads on any of the other lurkers.pieguy1372 wrote:
thisCalignoBot wrote:
2. If we ever want a lurker lynch, I don't think we'll get a better day to.
who do you thik is scum in the lurkers? also, what's your thoughts on kevin?
I was v/la around when the game started bc finals and shit. plus I'm in a shitton of games over at MS =.=Tanzklaue wrote:
also pieguy lurks the shit out of this game.
no right before he executed Nyquill he said he thought Nyquill was scummier. but turns out it was just me being paranoid again. oh wellRaging Bull wrote:
and the vote is because this kinda struck me odd. Seems like you were scum painting farto and Nyquill at the end of D1, but I'm sure Nyquill was the first to have more votes, which was the reason why he hammered Nyquill and not farto.
Raging Bull wrote:
in the meantime, who would you guys use your 2 vote for and why?
Really? I find it easiest to read people when they're attacking me.fartownik wrote:
It's pretty damn hard to analyze what's going on when 11 out of 12 players called you scum for all the reasons possible (D1).
This is disgustingly wrong.fartownik wrote:
One scum is in Caligno FOR SURE. Both his scumreads for D1 were Town (me and Nyquill), and they were not even strong. The Nyquill case started off from Caligno's pushing him in the beginning of the game, it was pretty unnatural. Also he has slowed down the game with a completely irrelevant discussion about the Leader voting (a fake try to gain some towncred from it). Seriously, IT WASN'T A BIG DEAL yet you made it so huge that the whole D1 became concerned about it, people eventually losing interest in the game and their judgment being not fresh resulting in a mislynch on Nyquill.
Very interesting statement. Not only do you not elaborate on any of this, but you also specifically exclude the posts that you were attacking just a minute ago.fartownik wrote:
Literally all non-setup-speculation points of Caligno are flawed and stink.
Actually I did once in Multiball, but I didn't analyse everyone like this time. (It's gonna be useless for a while, I need more practising. ;_;)fartownik wrote:
CTs-Th does something he's never done before - an analyzing wall of text! It's even better that the wall of text doesn't contain anything useful.
Eh, really? I didn't notice that.fartownik wrote:
This guy's playstyle feels kinda different from what he showed in previous games, and I don't quite like it.
Kevincela: I don't get any real scum vibe from this slot at all, actually. I'm not really sure why this guy's getting flak since I see a genuine town feel from his posts.CalignoBot wrote:
Posting now because fuck firefox for not posting this an hour ago when I wanted to.
RE: Lurker reads
I started writing the post and had to leave halfway for urgent business, so I'll just post the reads themselves right now and go into more detail late since my mind has decided to shut off for the night.
Town
-kevincela-
Irreversible
Raging Bull
CTs-Th
Tanzklaue
pieguy1372
Scum
These are relative only to each other. I'll explain what the reads themselves are when I get around to it.
Because I was inactive?Sephibro wrote:
unvote1
vote1: CalignoBot
farto: why wasn't your pvote on anyone at the end of d1?
Well, you're technically not third. I judged that by PoE + gut feeling, but it's nowhere close to my scumread on Caligno and pieguy. I added my third scumread but it's irrelevant for today, only two first matter since we've got two lynches today. My third choice might change until tomorrow.-kevincela- wrote:
farto, could you exactly explain why I'm third on the possible scum list? I'm just wondering
also hi there Tsukasa
A lot of it is your demeanor on day one when it came to my idea on how to play Day 1. Ironically, what you quoted is a big part of that.fartownik wrote:
Caligno, do you mind stating the reason of your vote on me? Besides 'cool info from the flip'.
This is exactly the type of post that makes you so obvscum. I did judge alignment from your response because it was scummy as shit. I explained why I felt my idea was better when Sephibro poked at it (which is a town way of thinking in of itself; the content itself erodes a little, but still town sided), and you immediately responded to my entire case and reasoning on why it's better than yours with "NO WE'RE DOING IT MY WAY AND THAT'S THAT NYEHHHHHHH".fartownik wrote:
Also, I forgot to mention this post of Caligno from D1. There was no way he could actually judge alignment from what I did there, yet HE DID and he tried to discredit me. A townie wouldn't consider the Leader discussion when judging the alignment.
You should see some of my mafiascum games. I have far more games where I have shit reads than I have good reads as town.fartownik wrote:
Caligno, you're pushing townies for the lynch the entire game. I'm sorry, but you're usually better than that when you're Town.
nope. I was worried bc it felt like you two were trying to go for an easy lynch. and then I eventually townread Nyquill. nice misrepfartownik wrote:
Second scum is most likely in pieguy, though RB is also kinda possible. I'd stick to pieguy though. Damn, he seriously picks up to me and Nyquill for even shittier reasons than Caligno. He's so sure of his very-early-game read on CTs that he calls us both scum for calling otherwise. Indirectly supports Caligno as well since his read was the same.
whySephibro wrote:
unvote1
vote1: CalignoBot
explain plzCalignoBot wrote:
CTs-Th: Town read was stale for a while, and a couple of his latest posts started pinging me a bit. Overall fairly null, but a small amount of scum on it.
these are all valid observations. I've been lazy as fk this game. finals hit near the start of the game and I've been busy (vacation) after that. plus I'm in like 4 games over at MS > <CalignoBot wrote:
pieguy1372: This guy is not playing anything like he usually does. Not only is he not trying to break the game apart like he usually does, but he's been much more passive with his reads than I remember him ever being. If there's a scum in this list, it's most likely him.