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scottyyy
I also like Vayne :)



http://www.lolparse.com/ that's the site that shows this btw
Vulf
Those starts are very inaccurate if you have done one of the following

Uninstalled league at one point.
Got a new PC or play on a different one.


I've done both so it says I have like 100 Warwick games which is very wrong lol.
You have to email Riot support if you want 100% champion stats from your normal games, but sadly I doubt they do request like that anymore.
scottyyy
Indeed. My logs are accurate however. :p
Love
I hate shyv

TKiller
Amumu laning is broken.

Thankfully noone knows that.



Was a very hard game but we pulled it through Jinx not sucking too much dick and me ulting at right times.

Also, how to gank botlane from toplane with no teleport: fucking walk through mid giving zero fucks.
maal


can defeat dodgedlol
Blaziken


Tried Kha Zix jungle for the first time.

Gotta love being collapsed upon first in teamfights.
Hika
I am complete shit with Kha jungle. How does it even work, jesus christ.
I'm sure they nerfed the crap out of his W too, amirite

I find him super fitting for the mid lane however
Blaziken
The only reason I managed to pull it off is because every lane was dominating. I'm terrible at ganking and I probably would never try this ever again, if I gotta jungle I would just pick Udyr.
Seikunai
I went 0/8/7 Support Zyra and 1/10 Solo Top Fiora

What the hell is happening to me they're my mains..

I got those results after I got a 23/8 Fiora and a 2/5/29 Zyra (same roles).

My best jungler would be always Hecarim. I own with him, I guess hahaha. My worst jungle is Vi and Sejuani. Heck, I suck at using them both, no matter what I do.
BrokenArrow

Hika wrote:

I am complete shit with Kha jungle. How does it even work, jesus christ.
I'm sure they nerfed the crap out of his W too, amirite

I find him super fitting for the mid lane however
Where's the problem? Having a hard time sustaining in the jungle or at ganking? I usually solve those by getting an early vamp cepter and evolve E at level 6, I guess that makes him a pretty decent jungler overall
But that might be because I have no experience with any other jungler because I hate having to build tanky, so yeah
At the same time I hate lane Kha'Zix because those smart suckers never get isolated ;-;
tyrael6192
evolve q first and rush hydra... gives you the lifesteal you need to survive, and then the aoe from hydra allows you to isolate the big creeps in each camp for HUUUUGE q damage

like you can clear a camp in 1 second with w + hydra + q
Jordan

tyrael6192 wrote:

evolve q first and rush hydra... gives you the lifesteal you need to survive, and then the aoe from hydra allows you to isolate the big creeps in each camp for HUUUUGE q damage

like you can clear a camp in 1 second with w + hydra + q
Nightblue <3
Nofool

tyrael6192 wrote:

evolve q first and rush hydra... gives you the lifesteal you need to survive, and then the aoe from hydra allows you to isolate the big creeps in each camp for HUUUUGE q damage

like you can clear a camp in 1 second with w + hydra + q
Like BA i usually evolve E first ,_, evolve Q first is ofc way better to clear camps faster but i think it depends on your playstyle (more jungle or more ganks?), with E at lvl 6 you can gank pretty easily but i guess you won't really need it if your mate(s) got something to cc the one(s) you'r ganking (so it also depends on your team é_è...).
Aoriki
I rarely ADC since my last hits are pretty bad but...wut~?

Jordan
"Think of Jaden Smith when you smite" -Voyboy stream 2014
Hika
is it okay if i think about saint when i smite
makeamove

Hika wrote:

is it okay if i think about saint when i smite
I'm sure it's okay for the enemy team!

By the way I have this fear for Gragas... I fear that champion so much when it's on the enemy team... Specially in high elo where they are just untouchable with E and ult all the darn day.
psKirika
You can ban him if you play ranked and is the banner fyi
makeamove
Well that's obvious... but with so many banneable champions there's not much hope. I feel like 3 bans is not enough.
Vulf
They aren't increasing the amount of bans anytime soon. So yeah gonna have to just deal with it or waste a ban on it.
TKiller
The only ban I do every time I'm the top pick is Vi. She's like the Malphite of middle divisions. Not only her ganks are deadly and she can get away with building pure damage early most of the time, people just refuse to react to her ults late game.

Platinum is like season one high silver-low gold, at the very least if I remember it right. Everything is terrible and I'm raising way too slow with my playstyle.
BrokenArrow
That feel when you want to bait a Blitz grab because you think your reactions are good enough for a perfectly timed dodge but your reactions are too low and you get destroyed
mfw that happened 3 times in a row today in lane
I thought I could pull that off more easily with Vayne and her tumble.. yeah nope, I apparently suck too hard
Hika
dude the first time i played vayne, i thought i was invincible because of q but then i realized how terrible my reaction timing was

gg wp vayne is not my best adc

well actually i'm pretty bad with draven too now that i think about it
Navizel
dem positionings and catching axes

prolly why I never liked vayne and draven
Vulf
ADC is by far my worst role. It's so bad that it's better for me to take Warwick bot starting dorans shield followed by a sunfire cape rush and then I kill people. Tanks are so broken this preseason lol.
TKiller
Too bad Warwick is still in a terrible place :'D
Justykanna
Do we have any idea when the new season's gonna start?
Vulf

TKiller wrote:

Too bad Warwick is still in a terrible place :'D

He has been on the rework list for almost 2 years now. Riot is just a lazy piece of shit when it comes to fixing champions that have been awful for 2 years.

With that aside he is playable and I got to gold playing pretty much nothing but mid Warwick.
Justykanna

Vulf wrote:

With that aside he is playable and I got to gold playing pretty much nothing but mid Warwick.
Wish I got to play one (or even two) lane(s) that much, instead of being last pick for 3/4 of my ranked matches and being stuck with bottom... >_>
TKiller
Well yeah, he's certainy playable and the masteries changes made his lifesteal tank build more powerful in comprasion to the whole state of bruiser meta. I got like 3 wins with him in gold and that's all. Oh and a loss when everything was terrible and I went manamune.

But the terrible laneclear, the weird concept and the whole fact that spectre's cowl exists. Eh.

The aspd buff is quite king in certain picks tho.
maal

Vulf wrote:

ADC is by far my worst role. It's so bad that it's better for me to take Warwick bot starting dorans shield followed by a sunfire cape rush and then I kill people. Tanks are so broken this preseason lol.
ofc it is when all u do is press r
Vulf
I have around 1.7k games with him because I only play Warwick for the most part.
I agree he is in a terrible spot and has been for a long time now.

It's not so much about him being bad, but the fact that there are antifun mechanics in his kit to the point Riot has intentionally kept him weak for 2 years. That's what the rework will address hopefully.

maal wrote:

ofc it is when all u do is press r
You still need to know when to all in or you will die in most cases. Support used to be my secondary role so I know a lot of the matchups bot lane. Also you don't know how many people I've made rage quit because they thought me going Warwick bot = a free win and then they feed.
maal

Vulf wrote:

I have around 1.7k games with him because I only play Warwick for the most part.
I agree he is in a terrible spot and has been for a long time now.

It's not so much about him being bad, but the fact that there are antifun mechanics in his kit to the point Riot has intentionally kept him weak for 2 years. That's what the rework will address hopefully.

maal wrote:

ofc it is when all u do is press r
You still need to know when to all in or you will die in most cases. Support used to be my secondary role so I know a lot of the matchups bot lane. Also you don't know how many people I've made rage quit because they thought me going Warwick bot = a free win and then they feed.
did i say you wouldnt die????????????????????????????????

my point still stands lmao
Vulf
If you are implying Warwick oneshots people with ulti you are retarded.
maal

Vulf wrote:

If you are implying Warwick oneshots people with ulti you are retarded.
please tell me where i stated so
Vulf
You didn't have to state it. The way you posted implied it.

TIL people still think Warwick is an ult bot. LOL
tyrael6192
maal
yeah but you're just assuming without evidence

that my friend, is retarded
Vulf
Why do i need evidence? I've been posting on this forum and reading your replies long enough to know exactly thats what you meant.
maal
no can you read my mind no you cant, can you see my face no you cant, you cant draw conclusions without having hard cold facts
Vulf
So you really want to derail this thread huh? It's obvious you meant exactly that and your previous post show that.
BrokenArrow
sometimes maal reminds me a bit of Reginald, no offense
tyrael6192
this thread should be renamed to "warwick and the shitty balance team at riot games" because that's all that ever gets spoken about by anyone
maal
no i dont mean it wtf haha ww's ult is shit weak its only good for the lockdown of the 1 carry you ult

and thanks BA i never liked you anyway
Vulf

tyrael6192 wrote:

this thread should be renamed to "warwick and the shitty balance team at riot games" because that's all that ever gets spoken about by anyone
Don't forget the massive spam of end game results screenies.
TKiller

BrokenArrow wrote:

sometimes maal reminds me a bit of Reginald, no offense
That's an offence to Reginald.
GeeNX
Is maal alike with wukong?

Are maal's eyebrows missing every time he goes into lcs match?
maal

TKiller wrote:

BrokenArrow wrote:

sometimes maal reminds me a bit of Reginald, no offense
That's an offence to Reginald.
wtf what's with the personal attacks
TKiller
Personal attacks are funny. Like casual racism.
maal
its not really funny
Jordan
Sthap flaim pls
TKiller
Not for you maybe.

Anyway, riot fucked up disabling EUW ranked and I got in a game with a bunch of low diamonds going full retard for the whole game. Didn't understand a thing, but apparently I was the only one who didn't know losses were forgiven.

Head still full of fuck.
maal
i dont see anyone laughing tbh
makeamove
Warwick is the least of the champion balance problems. Kassadin and Gragas/Ziggs still exist. The only difference is that Kass can be used by anyone and Gragas is a god in high elo :v
TKiller
You seem to be missing the point.
Ceph23
oh look. another broken champ complaint.
GeeNX
I hate playing against Gragas, because he's op, but okay. I can still handle him...but Ziggs, come on, Ziggs is not even op, Ziggs is a fucking champion for braindead people, you can kill anyone pressing random keys
SiFly_old
blackfire torch rush gragas/syndra <3

Stuff is broken but so nice to blow anyone up in a second, even tanks.
BrokenArrow
What if I told you not everything that is strong is automatically broken/op
Just don't get caught how about that
Vulf
There are only like 3 champions that I would consider broken op right now. Mostly due to bugs (Rengar).
15-20 that are really strong
The rest playable but there is a big difference between being playable and strong.
psKirika
Rengo is at solid 50% win rate tho. Don't think any champ is op atm
Vulf
There is a reason he has been globally banned in the last 3 tournies.
BrokenArrow
The only champions I consider op in their current state are Nidalee and Mundo, everything else doesn't seem ban-worthy to me. I usually ban Gragas along with them because I just dislike laning against him
psKirika

Vulf wrote:

There is a reason he has been globally banned in the last 3 tournies.
Well, I was pointing towards soloQ.

BrokenArrow wrote:

The only champions I consider op in their current state are Nidalee and Mundo, everything else doesn't seem ban-worthy to me. I usually ban Gragas along with them because I just dislike laning against him
Not OP imo. Good initiation team can break through a poke comp. With Mundo you just have to burst him down / use % dmg like BorK, Elise, Kogmaw etc
Vulf
He is still a very common ban in higher elo's.

Also most people in bronze/silver/gold aren't going to know how to do a triple Q at level 2.
Blaziken
They could look at a youtube video?

Anyhow, how many stacks on Nasus' Siphoning Strike should I aim for at 20 minutes. Playing top.


Gotta hate it when the Nunu ganks once, and gets killed by the ignite I accidentally used on him then goes AFK.
Justykanna

Blaziken wrote:

They could look at a youtube video?

Anyhow, how many stacks on Nasus' Siphoning Strike should I aim for at 20 minutes. Playing top.


Gotta hate it when the Nunu ganks once, and gets killed by the ignite I accidentally used on him then goes AFK.
What the-Volibear and Annie build?
Blaziken
Apparently AD Annine and I have no idea what the fuck Volibear was doing.
Ceph23

Justykanna wrote:

Blaziken wrote:

They could look at a youtube video?

Anyhow, how many stacks on Nasus' Siphoning Strike should I aim for at 20 minutes. Playing top.


Gotta hate it when the Nunu ganks once, and gets killed by the ignite I accidentally used on him then goes AFK.
What the-Volibear and Annie build?
Because one boot and AP Annie is too mainstream.
Blaziken
But most champions in this game have 2 feet, so wouldn't two boots be needed?
Probably sold everything at the end for lulz because the loss for them was kind of inevitable.
PsychoSkill

BrokenArrow wrote:

The only champions I consider op in their current state are Nidalee and Mundo, everything else doesn't seem ban-worthy to me. I usually ban Gragas along with them because I just dislike laning against him

lol, u must be Challenger.


imo, there are to many strong champs that deserve a ban :(


(Did u never see a fed Riven? -.-)

shyvana, annie, nasus, kassa ....
TKiller
If we're talking about this, I usually ban Vi, Evelynn and Kha'Zix. Pretty much the junglers I hate with a passion and people tend to lose against overall.

Don't really understand why people ban Shyvanna so much. The amount of base damage she does isn't that high and to actually carry a game with her one would have to go damage early. Anyone can buld sunfire-spiritvisage and become surprisingly tanky. Her kiting potential is annoying, that's the only ban worthy part of her kit I see. But I guess people are generally like "much tank, can't kill".
Vulf

PsychoSkill wrote:

BrokenArrow wrote:

The only champions I consider op in their current state are Nidalee and Mundo, everything else doesn't seem ban-worthy to me. I usually ban Gragas along with them because I just dislike laning against him

lol, u must be Challenger.


imo, there are to many strong champs that deserve a ban :(


(Did u never see a fed Riven? -.-)

shyvana, annie, nasus, kassa ....
Every single one of those champions is (was) counterable (Riven to a lesser extent). Problem is their counters got nerfed to the point it doesn't matter anymore.

I used to love watching the Nasus and Darius match ups on streams because nasus would auto lose that lane. Then darius got nerfed then nasus got buffed and here we are.
TKiller
Beaten 3 Rivens with Amumu top not too long ago.

Me = chinese electric batman, platinum top laners = bad.




Well, jokes and such, most of top lanes are now a tank slapping festival with not that much of a field to display skill. And I pick something corresponding most of the time. Though I highly prefer Zac to other picks.
Justykanna

TKiller wrote:

Don't really understand why people ban Shyvanna so much.
Me neither. Her, Dr. Mundo and Nasus keep getting banned in my games because... well... they don't die. But they don't really carry games either. =s

TKiller wrote:

most of top lanes are now a tank slapping festival
Which sucks because my favourite top laner is Gangplank so killing them becomes...not fun. D=
TKiller
People still die to redpot gankplank level 1 by the way.

You'd think after this much time they'd learn, but nope!

Really, I have only 7 gankplank games in my whole ranked history, but in each one of them I went redpot and in each one of them I got a kill level 1.
SiFly_old

TKiller wrote:

Beaten 3 Rivens with Amumu top not too long ago.

Me = chinese electric batman, platinum top laners = bad.

Well, jokes and such, most of top lanes are now a tank slapping festival with not that much of a field to display skill. And I pick something corresponding most of the time. Though I highly prefer Zac to other picks.
Well, i've won toplane with Sona on that level. Amazing when your mundo goes support without telling before you pick.
Jordan
Riven is easily counterable and if she loses laning phase she's gonna be 100% useless. People whine at everything that does damage.
BrokenArrow

PsychoSkill wrote:

BrokenArrow wrote:

The only champions I consider op in their current state are Nidalee and Mundo, everything else doesn't seem ban-worthy to me. I usually ban Gragas along with them because I just dislike laning against him

lol, u must be Challenger.


imo, there are to many strong champs that deserve a ban :(


(Did u never see a fed Riven? -.-)

shyvana, annie, nasus, kassa ....
My Akali has beaten every fed Riven so far and Kassadin never gets picked because the enemy team ends up banning him anyways. And in case they don't, I still have my Talon and fuck him up so hard that he won't be able to transfer into midgame at all.

Btw, teamfighting with Akali in lower elo is actually quite simple, just get a Q mark on one of their carries, then jump in into a 1v5 and oneshot him because he doesn't expect it. Instantly go into shroud while waiting for your cooldowns, let your team follow up, oneshot their next carry and it's already won. Problem is that I don't always find ways to engage into the fight because carries tend to not get in range of my Q. :/
But I'd say Akali is the perfect noobstomper, in Season 4 I will hopefully have the chance to play against higher elo people with her too.
f e a r
Riven gets smacked in top, so people play her mid, and I think people are more annoyed about the shield that has an insanely low cd and an ad scaling.

Even if she does lose lane, it's still possible to comeback just by going to some lane and splitpush/farm (which is the same case with about most champs, but you get the point).

I think Shyvana is probably getting banned due to being so good at trading and splitpushing, it's never fun to deal with someone that has 300cs and is splitpushing, more so in lower elos when people end up running around like headless chickens due to it.
Not saying I'm 100% right, just my two cents. (:
Vulf
Saying Riven needs to do well in lane to be useful....


L

O

L


E nerf on PBE is probably all she needs imo. Q nerf was so minimal I wouldn''t even call that a nerf.
Jordan

Vulf wrote:

Saying Riven needs to do well in lane to be useful....


L

O

L


E nerf on PBE is probably all she needs imo. Q nerf was so minimal I wouldn''t even call that a nerf.
Tell me how she can be useful when her dmg is not enough to even finish off the ADC and she dies instantly in teamfights? Inb4 a fed riven wrecked your team once and from now on you joined the opwhine train
Vulf
First of all where did I say she was OP in that post? There is a difference between feeding in lane, going even, and winning matchups. Riven does not need to snowball to be useful which is pretty much what you said, and she has the tools to be able to comeback if she does end up losing her lane.

Edit: If you have actually been paying attention to my post you'd know I am against a lot of nerfs Riot has been giving out lately. The only reason I agree with her E nerf is that it makes it more consistent with the whole doing damage while being tanky/free stats riot seems to hate so much.
PsychoSkill

BrokenArrow wrote:

My Akali has beaten every fed Riven so far and Kassadin never gets picked because the enemy team ends up banning him anyways. And in case they don't, I still have my Talon and fuck him up so hard that he won't be able to transfer into midgame at all.

Btw, teamfighting with Akali in lower elo is actually quite simple, just get a Q mark on one of their carries, then jump in into a 1v5 and oneshot him because he doesn't expect it. Instantly go into shroud while waiting for your cooldowns, let your team follow up, oneshot their next carry and it's already won. Problem is that I don't always find ways to engage into the fight because carries tend to not get in range of my Q. :/
But I'd say Akali is the perfect noobstomper, in Season 4 I will hopefully have the chance to play against higher elo people with her too.

We don't talk about individuall skill when u speak about Strong/Op- Champs
GeeNX
This thread is getting funny lately. I dont want to offend anyone, but few people is actually saying things with logic.

Actually Riven can do shit in lane and still carry the game, you just need to rely a bit on your teammates.

PsychoSkill wrote:

We don't talk about individuall skill when u speak about Strong/Op- Champs
And I totally agree with you, there are some champs that at least, you need to have a bit of mechanics to pull of big plays, like... zed for example, I think it's very easy to shut down a bad zed, and a good zed can really fuck up your plans. With most OP champs I meant champs like... oh, Im getting focused, Im about to die, np I use Q+E+R on me and I do triple.

Champs with insane burst with low ap, with easy spells to land. Or just ridiculous CD's, that mostly Riven problem imo
Jordan

Vulf wrote:

First of all where did I say she was OP in that post? There is a difference between feeding in lane, going even, and winning matchups. Riven does not need to snowball to be useful which is pretty much what you said, and she has the tools to be able to comeback if she does end up losing her lane.

Edit: If you have actually been paying attention to my post you'd know I am against a lot of nerfs Riot has been giving out lately. The only reason I agree with her E nerf is that it makes it more consistent with the whole doing damage while being tanky/free stats riot seems to hate so much.
Hmm yes I agree with the E duration nerf. Being able to pull off a permashield at max cdr is really annoying for the enemy. Besides that, I don't think she's OP too
TKiller
I'm apparently 12-3 with Vlad, one of the most useless champions of this game in my opinion, yet 45-41 with Akali, who I know and play well, usually win my lane and roam the map like a fucking jet.

I don't understand something about carrying games.
BrokenArrow


Best game of my life
makeamove

omg
omg
omg
yes
even though I didn't play THAT well this game, all of my yes.
BrokenArrow

Snepif wrote:


omg
omg
omg
yes
even though I didn't play THAT well this game, all of my yes.
Gj!
I've been wondering about this for quite some time now.. isn't it actually almost completely wasted effort playing ranked during preseason so close before the softreset? Why not wait for the next season to start? I at least would hate to get promoted only to end up 3 divisions below in th next season anyways.
Vulf
Edit: Confusing information. Sorry :(
Nofool

Vulf wrote:

you won't get placed into anything higher than gold 1 even if you win 10/10.
really o_o ? link pls
makeamove
If it's a soft elo reset, it's untrue that it's useless. Soft elo reset means your past season elo is still taken into account. Anyway I take it as a learning and improve experience above all, I want to become as good as humanly possible...
GeeNX
if I am not mistaken what soft reset means it's. (Actual ELO+MMR+1200)/3 and there is your soft reset, correct me if I am mistaken

Lets see how season four will start, I have high expectations for it, I have been training vs most of the best spanish teams, so I think my level improved a bit, obviously still far from them, but we stand chances
makeamove
Yeah you are right I think, I knew it was something like elo+1200 but I didn't know exactly what.

Edit: I believe it's (MMR+1200)/2
Vulf
There is a formula to calculate it, but there hasn't been an official Riot post claiming what is true or not. Season 3 was similar to the above one (MMR + 1200)/2. So if you are 2400 MMR the reset should put you at about 1800 which is Gold 1/Plat V. Where you are placed off that depends on how well you do in your placements. There was a post on reddit stating there is a cap, but not entirely sure if that's true or not.

I'll edit my other post so I don't cause a panic attack for people. LOL
makeamove
Either way I'm happy. But I gotta learn more! Wonder when will S4 start.
TKiller
Kinda concerned by the item nerfs coming up by the way.

10% CDR off Spirit Visage and level scaling damage on Sunfire are gonna hit my Zac in the nuts.

Might stick to cdr glyphs on him now but Sunfire is a large hit.
pola[r]is
As a Silver V scrub I can successfully say I'm a scrub at this game.
Period.
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