Where's the problem? Having a hard time sustaining in the jungle or at ganking? I usually solve those by getting an early vamp cepter and evolve E at level 6, I guess that makes him a pretty decent jungler overallHika wrote:
I am complete shit with Kha jungle. How does it even work, jesus christ.
I'm sure they nerfed the crap out of his W too, amirite
I find him super fitting for the mid lane however
Nightblue <3tyrael6192 wrote:
evolve q first and rush hydra... gives you the lifesteal you need to survive, and then the aoe from hydra allows you to isolate the big creeps in each camp for HUUUUGE q damage
like you can clear a camp in 1 second with w + hydra + q
Like BA i usually evolve E first ,_, evolve Q first is ofc way better to clear camps faster but i think it depends on your playstyle (more jungle or more ganks?), with E at lvl 6 you can gank pretty easily but i guess you won't really need it if your mate(s) got something to cc the one(s) you'r ganking (so it also depends on your team é_è...).tyrael6192 wrote:
evolve q first and rush hydra... gives you the lifesteal you need to survive, and then the aoe from hydra allows you to isolate the big creeps in each camp for HUUUUGE q damage
like you can clear a camp in 1 second with w + hydra + q
I'm sure it's okay for the enemy team!Hika wrote:
is it okay if i think about saint when i smite
TKiller wrote:
Too bad Warwick is still in a terrible place :'D
Wish I got to play one (or even two) lane(s) that much, instead of being last pick for 3/4 of my ranked matches and being stuck with bottom... >_>Vulf wrote:
With that aside he is playable and I got to gold playing pretty much nothing but mid Warwick.
You still need to know when to all in or you will die in most cases. Support used to be my secondary role so I know a lot of the matchups bot lane. Also you don't know how many people I've made rage quit because they thought me going Warwick bot = a free win and then they feed.maal wrote:
ofc it is when all u do is press r
did i say you wouldnt die????????????????????????????????Vulf wrote:
I have around 1.7k games with him because I only play Warwick for the most part.
I agree he is in a terrible spot and has been for a long time now.
It's not so much about him being bad, but the fact that there are antifun mechanics in his kit to the point Riot has intentionally kept him weak for 2 years. That's what the rework will address hopefully.You still need to know when to all in or you will die in most cases. Support used to be my secondary role so I know a lot of the matchups bot lane. Also you don't know how many people I've made rage quit because they thought me going Warwick bot = a free win and then they feed.maal wrote:
ofc it is when all u do is press r
Don't forget the massive spam of end game results screenies.tyrael6192 wrote:
this thread should be renamed to "warwick and the shitty balance team at riot games" because that's all that ever gets spoken about by anyone
That's an offence to Reginald.BrokenArrow wrote:
sometimes maal reminds me a bit of Reginald, no offense
Well, I was pointing towards soloQ.Vulf wrote:
There is a reason he has been globally banned in the last 3 tournies.
Not OP imo. Good initiation team can break through a poke comp. With Mundo you just have to burst him down / use % dmg like BorK, Elise, Kogmaw etcBrokenArrow wrote:
The only champions I consider op in their current state are Nidalee and Mundo, everything else doesn't seem ban-worthy to me. I usually ban Gragas along with them because I just dislike laning against him
What the-Volibear and Annie build?Blaziken wrote:
They could look at a youtube video?
Anyhow, how many stacks on Nasus' Siphoning Strike should I aim for at 20 minutes. Playing top.
Gotta hate it when the Nunu ganks once, and gets killed by the ignite I accidentally used on him then goes AFK.
Because one boot and AP Annie is too mainstream.Justykanna wrote:
What the-Volibear and Annie build?Blaziken wrote:
They could look at a youtube video?
Anyhow, how many stacks on Nasus' Siphoning Strike should I aim for at 20 minutes. Playing top.
Gotta hate it when the Nunu ganks once, and gets killed by the ignite I accidentally used on him then goes AFK.
BrokenArrow wrote:
The only champions I consider op in their current state are Nidalee and Mundo, everything else doesn't seem ban-worthy to me. I usually ban Gragas along with them because I just dislike laning against him
Every single one of those champions is (was) counterable (Riven to a lesser extent). Problem is their counters got nerfed to the point it doesn't matter anymore.PsychoSkill wrote:
BrokenArrow wrote:
The only champions I consider op in their current state are Nidalee and Mundo, everything else doesn't seem ban-worthy to me. I usually ban Gragas along with them because I just dislike laning against him
lol, u must be Challenger.
imo, there are to many strong champs that deserve a ban
(Did u never see a fed Riven? -.-)
shyvana, annie, nasus, kassa ....
Me neither. Her, Dr. Mundo and Nasus keep getting banned in my games because... well... they don't die. But they don't really carry games either. =sTKiller wrote:
Don't really understand why people ban Shyvanna so much.
Which sucks because my favourite top laner is Gangplank so killing them becomes...not fun. D=TKiller wrote:
most of top lanes are now a tank slapping festival
Well, i've won toplane with Sona on that level. Amazing when your mundo goes support without telling before you pick.TKiller wrote:
Beaten 3 Rivens with Amumu top not too long ago.
Me = chinese electric batman, platinum top laners = bad.
Well, jokes and such, most of top lanes are now a tank slapping festival with not that much of a field to display skill. And I pick something corresponding most of the time. Though I highly prefer Zac to other picks.
My Akali has beaten every fed Riven so far and Kassadin never gets picked because the enemy team ends up banning him anyways. And in case they don't, I still have my Talon and fuck him up so hard that he won't be able to transfer into midgame at all.PsychoSkill wrote:
BrokenArrow wrote:
The only champions I consider op in their current state are Nidalee and Mundo, everything else doesn't seem ban-worthy to me. I usually ban Gragas along with them because I just dislike laning against him
lol, u must be Challenger.
imo, there are to many strong champs that deserve a ban
(Did u never see a fed Riven? -.-)
shyvana, annie, nasus, kassa ....
Tell me how she can be useful when her dmg is not enough to even finish off the ADC and she dies instantly in teamfights? Inb4 a fed riven wrecked your team once and from now on you joined the opwhine trainVulf wrote:
Saying Riven needs to do well in lane to be useful....
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E nerf on PBE is probably all she needs imo. Q nerf was so minimal I wouldn''t even call that a nerf.
BrokenArrow wrote:
My Akali has beaten every fed Riven so far and Kassadin never gets picked because the enemy team ends up banning him anyways. And in case they don't, I still have my Talon and fuck him up so hard that he won't be able to transfer into midgame at all.
Btw, teamfighting with Akali in lower elo is actually quite simple, just get a Q mark on one of their carries, then jump in into a 1v5 and oneshot him because he doesn't expect it. Instantly go into shroud while waiting for your cooldowns, let your team follow up, oneshot their next carry and it's already won. Problem is that I don't always find ways to engage into the fight because carries tend to not get in range of my Q. :/
But I'd say Akali is the perfect noobstomper, in Season 4 I will hopefully have the chance to play against higher elo people with her too.
And I totally agree with you, there are some champs that at least, you need to have a bit of mechanics to pull of big plays, like... zed for example, I think it's very easy to shut down a bad zed, and a good zed can really fuck up your plans. With most OP champs I meant champs like... oh, Im getting focused, Im about to die, np I use Q+E+R on me and I do triple.PsychoSkill wrote:
We don't talk about individuall skill when u speak about Strong/Op- Champs
Hmm yes I agree with the E duration nerf. Being able to pull off a permashield at max cdr is really annoying for the enemy. Besides that, I don't think she's OP tooVulf wrote:
First of all where did I say she was OP in that post? There is a difference between feeding in lane, going even, and winning matchups. Riven does not need to snowball to be useful which is pretty much what you said, and she has the tools to be able to comeback if she does end up losing her lane.
Edit: If you have actually been paying attention to my post you'd know I am against a lot of nerfs Riot has been giving out lately. The only reason I agree with her E nerf is that it makes it more consistent with the whole doing damage while being tanky/free stats riot seems to hate so much.
Gj!Snepif wrote:
omg
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yes
even though I didn't play THAT well this game, all of my yes.
really o_o ? link plsVulf wrote:
you won't get placed into anything higher than gold 1 even if you win 10/10.