Warwick got picked top in bota lol. Whelp FoTM incoming followed by a nerf.

Rework needs to happen now!

Vulf wrote:

Warwick got picked top in bota lol. Whelp FoTM incoming followed by a nerf.

Rework needs to happen now!

cuz jungle karma was a big hit

Vulf wrote:

Warwick got picked top in bota lol. Whelp FoTM incoming followed by a nerf.

Rework needs to happen now!

gambit picked amumu supp and shyvana ap right ? I saw rabadon on shyvana but maybe darien was just trolling at the end õ_o

Won't take much. Last time Warwick was FoTM actually FoTW because he was nerfed almost immediately. He does a lot of things riot hates and thats why he has been kept in a shitty spot for so long, but since riot likes to nerf nerf nerf nerf it eventually will get to the point people start spamming him as an immovable rock top again. Nerf cycle OP.

Such is the fate of all MOBA

Is it? I haven't really played much dota 2 since the cb almost 2 years ago, but I have been playing a lot of Smite lately and there isn't much nerfs compared to kit reworks and buffs. Then again it's still in beta until march 2014.

All a nerf cycle really does is make the game stale over time look at league for example. There is a difference between a champion being strong and broken, but it seems people don't know the difference. If something is strong just buff the weaker stuff so it can compete.

At this point I would much rather everything be OP because at least then it will get to the point you would have to outplay your opponent to win instead of winning because the champion you picked is better than 90% of the other champions in that same role.

I've been playing both DOTA ang LOL for along time now and both has had some extreme nerfs over the years. (Don't know about HON though since I don't play it) Only thing is League's nerfs affects the game heavily because of it's simplicity. When nerfs are done in DOTA or DOTA 2 it Isn't much of a big deal since there are tons of ways to counter said nerf. But I do agree that Riot nerfs and overpowers champs too often. They should take a lesson from Icefrog and balance champs as best as they can and not keep rotating OPs and Nefrs.

Edit: also Dota 2 has also used the "nerf one guy and buff the other" tactic (I.E. Alchemist ult nerf and blood seeker movement speed exeeding max buff in the same patch).
Seems both MOBA tycoons use this tactic. We may not understand it but there is probably a reason to why they do this.

I agree.

It's easier to nerf something than it is to buff unfortunately. If something falls to the depths after a nerf it's better for the game as opposed to the opposite as long as it's in small doses, but that's not the case in league since this is the product of years of nerfs with minimal buffs to the weaker champs that have been weak for a very long time. I honestly think Riot is getting lazy with things. They use the "lack of resources" excuse way too much it's quite funny actually since that was their main excuse with the no winter summoners rift. Then some guy makes a custom winter map in about a week http://yurixyworks.com/category/game-mo ... oner-rift/. They throw so much into the esports scene that it's starting to screw over some of it's players. It's just sad.

I've delved into icefrogs work and I don't know why this guy gets so much hate for his work. He is single handily doing a much better job than the balance team at Riot currently.

oh hi ezreal

So, NA > EU Kappa

Kanye West wrote:

So, NA > EU Kappa

NA challenger is EU bronze V

Ceph23 wrote:

I've been playing both DOTA ang LOL for along time now and both has had some extreme nerfs over the years. (Don't know about HON though since I don't play it) Only thing is League's nerfs affects the game heavily because of it's simplicity. When nerfs are done in DOTA or DOTA 2 it Isn't much of a big deal since there are tons of ways to counter said nerf. But I do agree that Riot nerfs and overpowers champs too often. They should take a lesson from Icefrog and balance champs as best as they can and not keep rotating OPs and Nefrs.

Edit: also Dota 2 has also used the "nerf one guy and buff the other" tactic (I.E. Alchemist ult nerf and blood seeker movement speed exeeding max buff in the same patch).
Seems both MOBA tycoons use this tactic. We may not understand it but there is probably a reason to why they do this.

I have to say nerfing in Dota is nowhere near the level of LoL. Here is a summary of all balancing changes to Dota heroes over the past few years http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1349921 buffs are green, nerfs are pink. As you can see there are WAY more buffs than nerfs.

Kanye West wrote:

So, NA > EU Kappa

C9 played well, Fnatic was not even close to the level they played at last split and at worlds. Sad to see, cyanide says a part is having Rekkles now which doesn't play TF carries like Puszu and forces him to make early plays. In my opinion xpeke doesn't shine anymore and gets so much behind every time in lane, in combination with some questionable team setups.

Think this tournament mainly showed how much EU is stronger in general and how NA mainly consists out of TSM and C9. Vulcun didn't really look promising and played really sloppy.

I hope LD does fine this LCS split, I think they can do decently and only being together for 2 weeks allowed TSM to stomp them, though they played the 2nd game not too bad.

eu is shit
na is shit
we're all shit

korea is the shit

maal wrote:

eu is shit
na is shit
we're all shit

korea is the shit

+1

SiFly wrote:

Kanye West wrote:

So, NA > EU Kappa

C9 played well, Fnatic was not even close to the level they played at last split and at worlds. Sad to see, cyanide says a part is having Rekkles now which doesn't play TF carries like Puszu and forces him to make early plays. In my opinion xpeke doesn't shine anymore and gets so much behind every time in lane, in combination with some questionable team setups.

Think this tournament mainly showed how much EU is stronger in general and how NA mainly consists out of TSM and C9. Vulcun didn't really look promising and played really sloppy.

I hope LD does fine this LCS split, I think they can do decently and only being together for 2 weeks allowed TSM to stomp them, though they played the 2nd game not too bad.

Yeah most of the matchups for BotA were really bad. Should have been C9 vs Gambit and TSM vs Alliance/Fnatic imo. But yeah I agree EU as a whole seems to have many really good teams. 7/8 EU LCS teams look really damn good while only C9 and TSM can really compete internationally from NA. And I think Fnatic just needs some time to adapt to the current meta and they'll be top tier again

And then you have Korea where even the bronze 5 ranked teams are better than our pro teams kappa

me = genius

i guess i beat my record of assists lel

TKiller wrote:

me = genius

Hi Akali

Tshemmp wrote:

I have to say nerfing in Dota is nowhere near the level of LoL. Here is a summary of all balancing changes to Dota heroes over the past few years http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1349921 buffs are green, nerfs are pink. As you can see there are WAY more buffs than nerfs.

Thanks for posting this!

Now when someone tries to tell me that dota balances the same way as league does I know they are full of crap.

aaaaaw so cute :$

MERRY CHRISTMAS LEAGUE THREAD

tyrael6192 wrote:

MERRY CHRISTMAS LEAGUE THREAD

merry christmas dimmer

merry christmas email

Pls cry more, Taric....just please.

WTF. A bieber is retiring from music and planning to become a pro league player/streamer? please tell me this is not true

Slith wrote:

WTF. A bieber is retiring from music and planning to become a pro league player/streamer? please tell me this is not true

What? Where did you hear this?

Ceph23 wrote:

Slith wrote:

WTF. A bieber is retiring from music and planning to become a pro league player/streamer? please tell me this is not true

What? Where did you hear this?

Who believes that shit

SoG Tava wrote:

Slith wrote:

WTF. A bieber is retiring from music and planning to become a pro league player/streamer? please tell me this is not true

What? Where did you hear this?

my friend shared it to me. here it is https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=639801159398834&set=a.430978590281093.94453.430976320281320&type=1&theater

sounds legit

it pretty much hurts for me, how that thing will interact with team mates and such. though i'll just laugh

You aren't seriously believing this, are you?

Also fastest win ever confirmed

critplank op, eune op, kata op

Also, I highly doubt that's real. But if it is, I'm going to make him sing "Baby baby baby, run"

Toughts on Yasuo so far ? , i realy enjoy playing him , he has a great potential

He's really fun to play and juke around, his teamfights are kinda meh if you don't get a good ult off
Really dumb to play against since he doesn't have cooldowns and ressources, a pretty strong shield and his ridiculous crit passive

I hope Riot is either gonna change that passive and/or give his E a higher CD

those wrote:

TKiller wrote:

me = genius

Hi Akali

That was actually an experiment for Pantheon which went quite okay more than once. Been using those quints on Akali for the past week as well, but hybrid pen marks.

I feel like spellvamp quints are highly underrated overall. With WotA being weird as it is now, Akali sustain nerfed really hard back when Lich Bane became magic on-hit, and still no spellvamp items for AD champions Gunblade AD part being nerfed long ago, I find them worth using myself, especially over AD quints which I pretty much only use for stuff like level 1-2 kills.

On Patheon those allowed me to clear waves mid-end game between skirmishes much faster while still recovering HP. Much more minor sustain improvement early, but noticable. Also despite E being AoE, it still recovers a plenty of HP when used on a pack of minons/more than 1 champion.

I don't expect to kill opponent before hitting level 7 on Akali, when you have more than 1 ultimate stack. At this point AP quints become much less valuable with base damage rising and ap/level kicking in. If the laner is terrible enough to get killed before, you don't really need AP quints either. Questionable in friendly gank situations. Doran's shield + pot start kills your pre 4-5 trades, AP quints or not; Doran's ring + 2 pots make your enemy much stronger, so you have to use Q to trade less, and when you actually trade, those 2 health pots come in; Flask+pots - you got the point.

Vlad is yet to be tested but revolver gets you a low amount of ap for a high cost, WotA upgrade is quite costly and gives less AP than before, useful CDR and useless mana regen. Spellvamp quints give you half of revolver spellvamp, making getting AP items straight away more tempting. MS quints might still be king for Vlad though, I don't know.

Mundo! Last hitting with cleavers is costly even with half cost returned, hard to notice with high base hp regen, but it actually is. Much more noticable if you're getting damaged while doing so. Spellvamp quints make cleavers return much more health when hitting, also later in the game hitting high health targets returns even more (and you have a spirit visage). Plus there's not much quints impactful for Mundo anyway (%HP? Hue.)

I'd use those one Ryze, but I am currently building WotA on him and feeling quite good. They'd still act like a Doran's blade for an ADC early game.

Had funny results with Kha'Zix, but I'm not much of a Kha'Zix player. Still, insane spellvamp from isolated Q casts on low cooldown.

All in all, same with other utility quints, you sacrifice power for a unique stat. Fits my playstyle really good. Dunno how well it'll carry on when (if) I get higher in the ladder, since I'm only platinum 3 right now, got back to playing League without building Manamune Scarners top lane not so long ago.

I've only played ARAM for about 3 times and all of those games I played as Alistar. I mean, WTF!? I don't even play that guy -_-

You're still lucky you didn't get consecutive Soraka. ARAM's a bitch.

RNG is always a bitch.

I own 111 champions yet it insists that I should play Rammus.

Question. I got a second monitor for Christmas but I can't figure out how to make the League of Legends game actually open on my second monitor. Essentially, my left one is for my desktop, icons, etc etc and my right one's for gaming. But I can't make the game stay on the right monitor.

I know I need to use Windowed/Borderless Windowed, but that's not helping me swap the monitor.

I read that NVidea has something in the control panel that can help, but I haven't found it.

Help, anyone?

The dumbest yet simpliest solution would be to use main monitor for games and secondary for applications.

Dunno, I just drag windows back and forth depending on if I'm playing something or not, my use of second monitor consist of watching streams/movies in the background anyway.

Well that and I don't use desctop shortcuts.

TKiller wrote:

The dumbest yet simpliest solution would be to use main monitor for games and secondary for applications.

Dunno, I just drag windows back and forth depending on if I'm playing something or not, my use of second monitor consist of watching streams/movies in the background anyway.

Well that and I don't use desctop shortcuts.

I guess that is the dumbest and simplest solution, huh? lol.
Done. Thanks for help, TKiller!

izi

I approve!
Though everybody stole my kills...

New fav build <3

Is it just me, or did my reroll gauge not fill some...? o_O

That was actually an experiment for Pantheon which went quite okay more than once. Been using those quints on Akali for the past week as well, but hybrid pen marks.

I feel like spellvamp quints are highly underrated overall. With WotA being weird as it is now, Akali sustain nerfed really hard back when Lich Bane became magic on-hit, and still no spellvamp items for AD champions Gunblade AD part being nerfed long ago, I find them worth using myself, especially over AD quints which I pretty much only use for stuff like level 1-2 kills.
.

Do you really see the effect of them? Still figuring out what the optimal runes are for my jungle morgana. I only get out with ~60-70% hp after full clear, would like to have that higher.

SiFly wrote:

That was actually an experiment for Pantheon which went quite okay more than once. Been using those quints on Akali for the past week as well, but hybrid pen marks.

I feel like spellvamp quints are highly underrated overall. With WotA being weird as it is now, Akali sustain nerfed really hard back when Lich Bane became magic on-hit, and still no spellvamp items for AD champions Gunblade AD part being nerfed long ago, I find them worth using myself, especially over AD quints which I pretty much only use for stuff like level 1-2 kills.
.

Do you really see the effect of them? Still figuring out what the optimal runes are for my jungle morgana. I only get out with ~60-70% hp after full clear, would like to have that higher.

If you're really trying to jungle morgana, AP quints would do you more benefit. Actually same for laning.

I've been mentioning champions having no spellvam mechanic and/or sustain reliant whether it is because of health costs of Vlad and Mundo or being a resetting melee assasing - Akali.

Morgana is different, her base spellvamp is more than enough even after all the nerfs.

Our Kassadin was afk for the first 15 minutes of the game
And that Katarina is Diamond V, yet she behaved like a bronzi :/ (not even talking about skill, just from what she wrote)

ap xin is the best xin
e:/ no he didnt sell items late,he backdoored like crazy with lichbane all game long lmfao

Guys can some of you play with me :s i wanna hardcore train Mid and support but its kinda boring alone


Euw : SoG Tava

Damn. Now I wish that LOL here allows us to play on servers from other countries :/

#SWAG

Got carried by Ziggs guy.

Went 2/0 in lane with Jinx being 1/1 I believe, but lost real hard in early sieges.

Also lost t3 tower top at like 15-20 minutes

rengar needs to be removed from the game along with his anti-fun friend nasus

rengar is stupid annoying to play against
you get fucked with no warning lol

Support Karma stronk

tyrael6192 wrote:

rengar needs to be removed from the game along with his anti-fun friend nasus

Why do people hate Rengar so much? o_o
I have yet to play with/against one that I would call 'game changing'...

tyrael6192 wrote:

rengar needs to be removed from the game along with his anti-fun friend nasus

no

yes riot pls i sell my soul delete these champions

Rengar has been disabled in most competitive play tournies because of the triple/quadra Q bug which has existed since that champions release. Riot so good at fixing bugs lelelelel. Ferocity is probably the dumbest thing they have ever added to this game. Rengar needs a resource rework since Riot will never be able to balance that champion with the current one as ferocity.

Nasus doesn't need anymore nerfs after the current ones on PBE. They need to actually BUFF stuff for once instead of nerfing everything to shit which in itself is making this game boring and frustrating to play. The only reason Nasus is so stupid now is because everything has been nerfed around him (preseason masteries kinda helped him too). You can't just nerf stuff constantly for 2 years and expect good things to happen.

Vulf wrote:

Rengar has been disabled in most competitive play tournies because of the triple/quadra Q bug which has existed since that champions release. Riot so good at fixing bugs lelelelel. Ferocity is probably the dumbest thing they have ever added to this game. Rengar needs a resource rework since Riot will never be able to balance that champion with the current one as ferocity.

Nasus doesn't need anymore nerfs after the current ones on PBE. They need to actually BUFF stuff for once instead of nerfing everything to shit which in itself is making this game boring and frustrating to play. The only reason Nasus is so stupid now is because everything has been nerfed around him (preseason masteries kinda helped him too). You can't just nerf stuff constantly for 2 years and expect good things to happen.

Most anoying is when they nerf something to death. Fine if that happens and you make a mistakes, but revert the nerfs partially to make it have less of an impact (for example mf). (Except from some obvious champs they want to keep weak).

Rengar is mainly anoying when they build damage and randomly one shot you with his ult. Has so much map pressure when you don't know his location. A little bit like eve, but with eve you have some warning.

Oh god. Here comes the nerf VS. buffs discussions again.

Not really...

It just ties back to what we had going on 4 pages ago and with the more recent rengar and nasus stuff. Unless someone brings up more points that I feel obliged to reply to there really isn't anything I can add beyond this point. In the end this is the problem with having a single thread about league of legends it gets cluttered with random stuff easily.. Especially when you go afk for a few days. I feel I already beat the whole "riots balance philosophy is hurting the game" thing to death. I'll most likely be too busy playing Smite to pay much attention to this thread anyways.

Smite is plain terrible tho.

Hey I like it. lol
This is really off topic now...

hey

today I carried a ranked game along with a warwick mate top.

I just focused on doing damage, but that warwick tanked whole enemy team. What a man wolf

hey

today I wanted to play LoL

but I couldn't log in

fuck you Riot

nah BA lemme tell u this

league got ddos'd

club penguin got ddos'd

dota 2 got ddos'd

ea.com got ddos'd

why?

ask pl

https://twitter.com/derptrolling

maal wrote:

nah BA lemme tell u this

league got ddos'd

club penguin got ddos'd

dota 2 got ddos'd

ea.com got ddos'd

why?

ask pl

https://twitter.com/derptrolling

Someone had few dollars left and decided to have some fun with a botnet this night,

Can't even bump a thread(s) on their forums atm because of billions of "RITO FIX SERVERS PLS" threads being made a second.

Farewell, Dota2

Hey

today I wanted to play LoL

but I had not my computer

fuck you riot

legit

Ceph23 wrote:

Oh god. Here comes the nerf VS. buffs discussions again.

Better than the generic spam end game screens

Kanye West wrote:

Ceph23 wrote:

Oh god. Here comes the nerf VS. buffs discussions again.

Better than the generic spam end game screens

I
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STATUS

Finally, the server decided to not act like crap.

Wow I played Vayne today for the first time of my life
she cool

she best

even though she has the second lowest winrate atm hahahahahahah

^Really? Didn't know that. Vayne is probably my go to champ. I have a really high win rate with her.

ya same

i just read it on reddit recently, but seems like she's a bit higher now, tho her winrate is 44.91% in gold on euw

I also like Vayne



http://www.lolparse.com/ that's the site that shows this btw

Those starts are very inaccurate if you have done one of the following

Uninstalled league at one point.
Got a new PC or play on a different one.


I've done both so it says I have like 100 Warwick games which is very wrong lol.
You have to email Riot support if you want 100% champion stats from your normal games, but sadly I doubt they do request like that anymore.

Indeed. My logs are accurate however. :p

I hate shyv

Amumu laning is broken.

Thankfully noone knows that.



Was a very hard game but we pulled it through Jinx not sucking too much dick and me ulting at right times.

Also, how to gank botlane from toplane with no teleport: fucking walk through mid giving zero fucks.

can defeat dodgedlol

Tried Kha Zix jungle for the first time.

Gotta love being collapsed upon first in teamfights.

I am complete shit with Kha jungle. How does it even work, jesus christ.
I'm sure they nerfed the crap out of his W too, amirite

I find him super fitting for the mid lane however

The only reason I managed to pull it off is because every lane was dominating. I'm terrible at ganking and I probably would never try this ever again, if I gotta jungle I would just pick Udyr.

I went 0/8/7 Support Zyra and 1/10 Solo Top Fiora

What the hell is happening to me they're my mains..

I got those results after I got a 23/8 Fiora and a 2/5/29 Zyra (same roles).

My best jungler would be always Hecarim. I own with him, I guess hahaha. My worst jungle is Vi and Sejuani. Heck, I suck at using them both, no matter what I do.

Hika wrote:

I am complete shit with Kha jungle. How does it even work, jesus christ.
I'm sure they nerfed the crap out of his W too, amirite

I find him super fitting for the mid lane however

Where's the problem? Having a hard time sustaining in the jungle or at ganking? I usually solve those by getting an early vamp cepter and evolve E at level 6, I guess that makes him a pretty decent jungler overall
But that might be because I have no experience with any other jungler because I hate having to build tanky, so yeah
At the same time I hate lane Kha'Zix because those smart suckers never get isolated ;-;

evolve q first and rush hydra... gives you the lifesteal you need to survive, and then the aoe from hydra allows you to isolate the big creeps in each camp for HUUUUGE q damage

like you can clear a camp in 1 second with w + hydra + q

tyrael6192 wrote:

evolve q first and rush hydra... gives you the lifesteal you need to survive, and then the aoe from hydra allows you to isolate the big creeps in each camp for HUUUUGE q damage

like you can clear a camp in 1 second with w + hydra + q

Nightblue <3

tyrael6192 wrote:

evolve q first and rush hydra... gives you the lifesteal you need to survive, and then the aoe from hydra allows you to isolate the big creeps in each camp for HUUUUGE q damage

like you can clear a camp in 1 second with w + hydra + q

Like BA i usually evolve E first ,_, evolve Q first is ofc way better to clear camps faster but i think it depends on your playstyle (more jungle or more ganks?), with E at lvl 6 you can gank pretty easily but i guess you won't really need it if your mate(s) got something to cc the one(s) you'r ganking (so it also depends on your team é_è...).

I rarely ADC since my last hits are pretty bad but...wut~?

"Think of Jaden Smith when you smite" -Voyboy stream 2014

is it okay if i think about saint when i smite