Just saying Irre is at L-1 and FoS: Tsukasa for not warning that Irre is at L-1.
Sorry was sleepingrEdo wrote:
Cookie's within the prod range, Sakura pls.
Fix that, please.Sakura wrote:
Vote Count 2.0
Not Voting - sephibro, CTs-Th, rEdo, Tsukasa, fartownik, DakeDekaane, CalignoBot, Irreversible, NoHitter,Cookie, pieguy1372, Raging Bull
With 12 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.
Yes, that's a first thought that came into my mind as well, but that could also be a scum role due to the fact that there are two scumteams. Just a little of WIFOM thrown in there.NoHitter wrote:
I see that Diplomacy as more of a town role. Well that means, I'm out of suspects now and have to reread.
@RB
Why vote farto?
why?Raging Bull wrote:
vote fartownik
I changed my mind?Raging Bull wrote:
Irre used diplomacy.
As for the vote, i just have weird vibes from fart. Calling my vote opportunistic, but near the end it looked as if he didnt care as much about votes on cookie sincsince he couldnt look any scummier
anti town with that ability would have claimed even more, what you're saying hasn't a logicfartownik wrote:
Irre's action doesn't actually confirm him as Town yet. We were really close to his lynch yesterday, yet he didn't oppose or didn't say anything despite having such powerful role in his hands? Smeels like anti-town.
He said he's moving his house for 3 days?fartownik wrote:
Irre's action doesn't actually confirm him as Town yet. We were really close to his lynch yesterday, yet he didn't oppose or didn't say anything despite having such powerful role in his hands? Smeels like anti-town.
And? Before V/LA he was already a strong suspect in most players' eyes.CTs-Th wrote:
He said he's moving his house for 3 days?
fartownik wrote:
The second-to-last post of Cookie is strongly Town imo.
Don't manipulate my words please.fartownik wrote:
post
the tl;dr of it is he's a giant lurkfuck as scumfartownik wrote:
Also Irre, that's just your general playstyle characteristic. The fact that no one has seen your scumplay here yet (correct me if I'm wrong, but I personally haven't seen him as scum yet?) also matters. People don't know what to expect when you're finally rolled scum.
At least he could have been town enough not to get lynched >w> (No offense Irre)Sephibro wrote:
anti town with that ability would have claimed even more, what you're saying hasn't a logicfartownik wrote:
Irre's action doesn't actually confirm him as Town yet. We were really close to his lynch yesterday, yet he didn't oppose or didn't say anything despite having such powerful role in his hands? Smeels like anti-town.
Sorry but when people refer post, I'm sure people also mentions the person who posted. If my post is scummy, well no shit you would read me as scummy.fartownik wrote:
(1)fartownik wrote:
The second-to-last post of Cookie is strongly Town imo.Don't manipulate my words please.fartownik wrote:
post
(2)
At that point Cookie felt like an opportunistic lynch, nothing to add here. We're going in circles.
(3)
I didn't negate Cookie's scummy behavior ever. I only pointed out it might be due to him being a newbie Town. And later I changed my mind over the matter and decided that it might actually not be so and he's actually scum. Pardon my change of stances with D1 reads.
Not sure where this is going honestly. I've already said those things.
I never said you negated his scummy behavior.fartownik wrote:
Don't manipulate my words please.
And stop saying that lynch was opportunistic. It just makes me feel uneasy how you labelled that lynch like that considering how cookie was playing. The way I see it, your plan is probably to go and look back into this "opportunistic" lynch and pretend to look for scum near the end.Raging Bull wrote:
Essentially, it's just saying "I read him as strong town and I will not get him lynched, but he is still scummy and I will settle for cookie lynch."
Why not if I've already pinged it?pieguy1372 wrote:
ftr he pinged one of my strongest hidden scumtells somewhere on D1
no I won't reveal where or what it is but I'm like 100% sure he's scum
Now why are you voting me?Tsukasa wrote:
Vote:fartownik
THAT POST looked Town, and at THAT TIME I thought Cookie is most likely Town. LATER I CHANGED MY MIND, for fuck's sake. And "I convinced you?" I have explained my arguments on Irre, it was your decision whether you want to vote him or not. He simply looked more scummy than Cookie, but you never fucking know exactly at D1 thus my reckless change of suspects.Raging Bull wrote:
Sorry but when people refer post, I'm sure people also mentions the person who posted. If my post is scummy, well no shit you would read me as scummy.
Cookie may have been an opportunistic lynch, but why did you not try to convince us to vote Irre instead? You just decided to go with whatever because obviously whoever gets lynched would not matter to you.
I don't really get what you're trying to say here.Raging Bull wrote:
And stop saying that lynch was opportunistic. It just makes me feel uneasy how you labelled that lynch like that considering how cookie was playing. The way I see it, your plan is probably to go and look back into this "opportunistic" lynch and pretend to look for scum near the end.
I can't phrase it correctly. But I feel uneasy since you keep labelling Cookie's potential lynch as opportunistic. Your plan is to look back into the so called "opportunistic" wagon and pretend to look for scum.fartownik wrote:
I don't really get what you're trying to say here.Raging Bull wrote:
And stop saying that lynch was opportunistic. It just makes me feel uneasy how you labelled that lynch like that considering how cookie was playing. The way I see it, your plan is probably to go and look back into this "opportunistic" lynch and pretend to look for scum near the end.
I wouldn't be surprised if there was scum on that wagon, but I can't really use that argument since I also decided to get on it in the end. As I thought Cookie is becoming more scummy myself, I couldn't tell whether the votes on him are opportunity looking scum or just scumreading townies. ARaging Bull wrote:
I can't phrase it correctly. But I feel uneasy since you keep labelling Cookie's potential lynch as opportunistic. Your plan is to look back into the so called "opportunistic" wagon and pretend to look for scum.
Your reason for voting me is your no-reason vote from D1.Sephibro wrote:
i've had my vote on farto the whole d1, let's keep the trend
vote: fartownik L-2
Also i'm preparing a summary of d1 wagons too see if i can get something out of them, i'll post when im done
Only thing I agree.fartownik wrote:
Your reason for voting me is your no-reason vote from D1.
12/10 would reason again
Not very often we look for two scum team, sorry my mistake.fartownik wrote:
Also if I was scum, why the shit would I 'pretend' to look for scum in that wagon? Wouldn't I be actually TRUTHFULLY looking for scum?
Jesus, what's this assumption even? Seems like fake lame-deduction skills for me.Raging Bull wrote:
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Still the whole point is for you to look back into the wagon and look town.
Why?Sephibro wrote:
the reason why my vote didn't move from you d1 is because you look scum
fartownik wrote:
Jesus, what's this assumption even? Seems like fake lame-deduction skills for me.Raging Bull wrote:
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Still the whole point is for you to look back into the wagon and look town.
fartownik wrote:
AND I'M AT L-1, NOT L-2 SEPHIBRO. GREAT WAY TO BAIT SOMEONE ELSE TO SURPRISE-HAMMER ME.
fartownik wrote:
The point is, why the heck would you even think that as a possibility. It seems so artificial and far-fetched. I usually do this kind of stuff anyways, because that's what you do, you analyze wagons from previous days. But why would you even mention I would PRETEND to do that as an argument?
fartownik wrote:
Yeap, so your argument is invalid.
Why would you do that though? Why wait for him to get modkilled? Is it because it does not matter to you who gets modkilled if it's not your teammate?CTs-Th wrote:
I saw RB was FoS-ing me in D1
I was waiting for Cookie to get modkilled at that time. So that voting Irre is the other choice for me.
Seems plausible, but I don't know if he would do it twice.NoHitter wrote:
l
Also, if farto flips scum, pieguy is probably scum too. His pushing for farto's lynch smells like what we did in Higurashi Mafia too similarly.
bc it's such a strong scumtell I don't want to out it. that way I can use it again later :>fartownik wrote:
Why not if I've already pinged it?
you seem concerned with how many votes are on you ~fartownik wrote:
AND I'M AT L-1, NOT L-2 SEPHIBRO. GREAT WAY TO BAIT SOMEONE ELSE TO SURPRISE-HAMMER ME.
Also weren't we supposed to avoid going to L-2 since rEdo's Doublevoter?
screw youNoHitter wrote:
lol So farto was in L-2 earlier when Sephi voted him.
Anyway, yes after rereading I do find farto's reaction to Cookie a bit odd. His explanation also doesn't quite convince me. (not gonna repeat what other people said already)
Also interesting is his attempt to discredit Irre. You can't exactly say he wasn't planning on defending himself considering that he was on V/LA. If yesterday didn't end with a modkill, I think most of us would not vote him once he revealed his ability.
Also, if farto flips scum, pieguy is probably scum too. His pushing for farto's lynch smells like what we did in Higurashi Mafia too similarly.
then after thisNoHitter wrote:
Whoa. That's not things work here.Cookie wrote:
And why am i scum for voting you?
Proof me different and ill change my vote
Vote: Cookie
So you vote him then want him to prove that voting him is scummy for you to unvote? That sounds wrong on many levels.
these people join the wagon, in this order: fartownik, rEdo, Raging Bull, IrreversibleCookie wrote:
Unvote
I know enough now, i just wanted to check some reactions on my vote
And then there's pieguy who's asking for speedlynches on anyone since d1fartownik wrote:
AND I'M AT L-1, NOT L-2 SEPHIBRO. GREAT WAY TO BAIT SOMEONE ELSE TO SURPRISE-HAMMER ME.
this is so weakDakeDekaane wrote:
:D
I just realized pieguy will be suspected whichever alignment farto flips.DakeDekaane wrote:
I'm up to hammer fanderwik, if he's not scum then go for pieguy. Thanks.
Because at that time, both Cookie and Irre is possibly scum. So, we can either lynch Cookie or Irre.Raging Bull wrote:
Why would you do that though? Why wait for him to get modkilled? Is it because it does not matter to you who gets modkilled if it's not your teammate?CTs-Th wrote:
I saw RB was FoS-ing me in D1
I was waiting for Cookie to get modkilled at that time. So that voting Irre is the other choice for me.
you seem concerned with how many votes are on you ~[/quote]fartownik wrote:
AND I'M AT L-1, NOT L-2 SEPHIBRO. GREAT WAY TO BAIT SOMEONE ELSE TO SURPRISE-HAMMER ME.
Also weren't we supposed to avoid going to L-2 since rEdo's Doublevoter?
It was not unexistent for me at that time. I thought it takes 6 votes to lynch as there's 11 people alive, but nope, it takes 7 because I forgot about rEdo's Doublevoter. Don't mind that.Sephibro wrote:
- fartownik, who also tried to scumpaint me today declaring an unexistent L-1fartownik wrote:
AND I'M AT L-1, NOT L-2 SEPHIBRO. GREAT WAY TO BAIT SOMEONE ELSE TO SURPRISE-HAMMER ME.
Vote: pieguypieguy1372 wrote:
until then can you vote fandwerik plz
Old, but taken right from my mouth after rereading this whole thread. When he plays Town, he doesn't really want to accuse all the people at once, he's not a bee flying from flower to flower - usually he's pushing one of his suspects to the wall. The moment that he just jumped into my Irreversible wagon with no real explanatation except for saying he's clumsy due to his emopost gave me sheer cold vibes, but I waited for something more to happen, and there we've had it - Raging Bull had shown flaws in his process of thinking. The way he tried to respond that was way too shitty to accept for me to believe he's Town. Irreversible is pretty much scum (click, an obvious easy sheep), but I guess enemy scumteam will get rid of him. Also, this made me giggle as shit - a desperate try to sheep Tsukasa, heh.pieguy1372 wrote:
that does not look like redacting your previous argumentfartownik wrote:
I guess we can either wait 'til he gets modkilled or rush another lynch, if someone has something against Cookie's flip. I'd still be more interested in seeing Irre flip, but I guess Cookie is fair enough already. Might be opportunistic, but also might be not, this has already gone too far and I don't see anything else that Cookie could do to look more scummy D1.
it looks like you're flip flopping around so that people won't suspect you for the same argument you suspected others for
fartownik is scum
100%
who wants a fartownik flashwagon