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Vote2: Irreversible
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lol. rEdo's probably Town.
@mod: votecount please
)Okay, I take that back. If you're a doublevoter, what's the point with voting 2 different people at the same time? Especially when there's really no more pressure you could put on them.
Unless that was just a typo and you have a regular amount of votes D:
Just in case anybody asks - I wanna push this game forward since it's been way too boring past three days, and Irreversible looks like a good target for our today's lynch, so I won't even bother hiding with my double-vote ability.
I did change my vote from Cookie to Irreversible, sir.fartownik wrote:
Okay, I take that back. If you're a doublevoter, what's the point with voting 2 different people at the same time? Especially when there's really no more pressure you could put on them.
Oh, damn. Overlooked that one because of the upper votecount. Okay, still legit and most likely Town.
EBWOP: Especially if Irre flips scum.
So what's the reason of lynching Irre over Cookie? Both are absent (Cookie would be replaced and Irre is V/LA). I can think in both wagons being opportunistic as they're pretty much going over inactive people, it's true this may be lurking but I'm not sure at all.
The huge difference is, he hasn't done anything notable this game except for a blatant try to join the Cookie wagon and some set-up speculation. Just read his ISO.DakeDekaane wrote:
So what's the reason of lynching Irre over Cookie? Both are absent (Cookie would be replaced and Irre is V/LA). I can think in both wagons being opportunistic as they're pretty much going over inactive people, it's true this may be lurking but I'm not sure at all.
Topic Starter
Vote Count 1.12
Countdown to deadline
If you see any mistakes, please let me know.
Irreversible (4) - rEdo, NoHitter, fartownik, rEdo
DakeDekaane (3): Tsukasa, CalignoBot, pieguy1372
Cookie (2) - Raging Bull, Irreversible
pieguy1372 (1): DakeDekaane
fartownik (1) - Sephibro
Not Voting - Cookie, CTs-Th
With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.
DakeDekaane (3): Tsukasa, CalignoBot, pieguy1372
Cookie (2) - Raging Bull, Irreversible
pieguy1372 (1): DakeDekaane
fartownik (1) - Sephibro
Not Voting - Cookie, CTs-Th
With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.
Countdown to deadline
If you see any mistakes, please let me know.
vote: Irre
that's not that obvious - also doublevoter is a really strong ability, and i guess it's scum that have strong abilities on this setup
Four scum and one of them with a double-vote ability? No, thank you.Sephibro wrote:
that's not that obvious - also doublevoter is a really strong ability, and i guess it's scum that have strong abilities on this setup
Still, that would be a rather harsh set-up for Town to handle.Sephibro wrote:
4 scum who 2v2 - yes please
What the hell is this assumption. Where did the 'it's scum that have strong abilities on this setup' come from? How do you know that?Sephibro wrote:
that's not that obvious - also doublevoter is a really strong ability, and i guess it's scum that have strong abilities on this setup
Town has PRs as well. How do you get the idea that the scum ones are more powerful?
Topic Starter
Vote Count 1.13
Countdown to deadline
If cookie doesnt come back nor I get a replacement by next vote count cookie will be modkilled.
[L-2]Irreversible (5) - rEdo, NoHitter, fartownik, rEdo, pieguy1372
DakeDekaane (2): Tsukasa, CalignoBot
Cookie (2) - Raging Bull, Irreversible
pieguy1372 (1): DakeDekaane
fartownik (1) - Sephibro
Not Voting - Cookie, CTs-Th
With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.
DakeDekaane (2): Tsukasa, CalignoBot
Cookie (2) - Raging Bull, Irreversible
pieguy1372 (1): DakeDekaane
fartownik (1) - Sephibro
Not Voting - Cookie, CTs-Th
With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.
Countdown to deadline
If cookie doesnt come back nor I get a replacement by next vote count cookie will be modkilled.
Im back now but at work. And dota had scum doublevoter too. Im sure town would have balanced PRs too. If it gets near lylo, we cman policy lynch redo, but i havent seen much of his iso to see if hes town or scum to me
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Holy i totally forgot about it this weekend sorry guys ill read the stuff later on today
fartownik wrote:
Jeez,
Vote: Irreversible
Not irre, IMOpieguy1372 wrote:
let's speedlynch someone
I sense some honesty on that AtE
We're thinking oppositely.fartownik wrote:
lol. rEdo's probably Town.
Is rEdo town because he's voting Irre?
I thought he think rEdo is town because of double vote? Although maybe it's also weird to have him not suspect a scum double voter.
Assuming this is role SPARTAAAA
I will not be doubtful of a scum double voter
I will not be doubtful of a scum double voter
I assumed that doublevoter, if in possession of scum, would be way stronger hidden than revealed already at D1. If rEdo lasted alive until the decisive days of the game (as scum) he could simply just jump in with his doublevote when someone was at L-2 and finish the game (if advantageous for scum). Right now his ability only works as a support of his main vote. Also we are aware of that and can avoid getting into L-2 without at least one vote from rEdo in the wagon. He basically turned himself in, losing the main gambit of his ability.
I don't necessarily exclude the possibility it could've been just for the towncred, but for now it seemed legit in my eyes.
I don't necessarily exclude the possibility it could've been just for the towncred, but for now it seemed legit in my eyes.
I agree with farto about rEdo. Outing being a doublevoter for towncred is even riskier in this situation if rEdo is scum.
Considering the setup, the other team would likely NK you if you did that.
Also switching my vote back to Cookie now that he's back.
Vote: Cookie
Considering the setup, the other team would likely NK you if you did that.
Also switching my vote back to Cookie now that he's back.
Vote: Cookie
I did actually gambit here with my claim. Yes, that was a risky call, but I don't really have anything else besides that double-vote, so I guess claiming it was a right decision - it gives scum a signal that I'm not scum myself, hence reducing the amount of the targets for them to NK from 10 to 9, which is a good thing for both us (town) and them - they've got a narrower list of people to target (providing they're targetting scum from the opposite team), which gives us a slightly higher chance of getting scum killed tonight. It was a double-edged sword, though - now I am most likely to get killed tonight anyway 
Also, assuming that I'm scum just because I've got that double-vote, with no other coverage, is kinda silly in my opinion.
Holding tight to my votes on Irreversible for now - I'm looking forward to reading from Cookie first.
Also, assuming that I'm scum just because I've got that double-vote, with no other coverage, is kinda silly in my opinion.
Holding tight to my votes on Irreversible for now - I'm looking forward to reading from Cookie first.
EBWOP: [...] now I am most likely to get killed tonight if my plans won't work out and they won't believe me
I'll let Cookie and Irre say something before I decide to vote who.
Also, I'm sure that rEdo will die tonight, no matter what role he/she got. (Except somebody have an ability to protect from NK)
Also, I'm sure that rEdo will die tonight, no matter what role he/she got. (Except somebody have an ability to protect from NK)
Topic Starter
Vote Count 1.14
Countdown to Deadline
This is a reminder that there's about 5 days left until deadline, if no hammer happens by then the day will end in No Lynch.
[L-3]Irreversible (4) - rEdo, fartownik, rEdo, pieguy1372
Cookie (3) - Raging Bull, Irreversible, NoHitter
DakeDekaane (2): Tsukasa, CalignoBot
pieguy1372 (1): DakeDekaane
fartownik (1) - Sephibro
Not Voting - Cookie, CTs-Th
With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.
Cookie (3) - Raging Bull, Irreversible, NoHitter
DakeDekaane (2): Tsukasa, CalignoBot
pieguy1372 (1): DakeDekaane
fartownik (1) - Sephibro
Not Voting - Cookie, CTs-Th
With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.
Countdown to Deadline
This is a reminder that there's about 5 days left until deadline, if no hammer happens by then the day will end in No Lynch.
CTs-Th can go in the scumpile too.
pieguy isn't looking as town as he used to be.
pieguy isn't looking as town as he used to be.
I'm just lazy as fuck this game
this is why I would have preferred to sign up as replacement >_<
Irre is still scum tho
this is why I would have preferred to sign up as replacement >_<
Irre is still scum tho
CTs, NH, rEdo, and RB are all town
Dake, Irre, and possibly Cookie are scum
Dake, Irre, and possibly Cookie are scum
I dont care what fart says but cookie still hasnt done anything helpful. Even if he is anew guy, CT is doing well to contribut. Furthermore, he may be town but does not act town too with inactivity. Even if i would be inactive, i would try to post at least once in a while.
Still no respond from Cookie and Irre...
And yes, I didn't post so much lately. since there's no new information but Irre's annoying act and rEdo's being a double voter.
Maybe I should vote you, Irre.
And yes, I didn't post so much lately. since there's no new information but Irre's annoying act and rEdo's being a double voter.
Maybe I should vote you, Irre.
Then do it goddammit, you won't get a response from him because he's V/LA. This game is already boring and 5 posts per day seems like maximum this can do for now, writing maybes won't help the activity either.
Also are you always thinking 8 hours before deciding on a vote?CalignoBot wrote:
Unvote: DakeDekaane
Lemme think.
Oops, sorry. I just need something to prod dodge.fartownik wrote:
Then do it goddammit,
Vote: Irreversible
L-2 now.
Topic Starter
Considering Cookie's situation was close to modkill last time, if Cookie gets to prod range again without stating a V/LA he will be instantly modkilled.
@mod: if he gets modkillled, will the day end, considering he's been one of our suspects?
i guess day ends if he's town and goes on if he's scum
Nah, that was me sleeping.fartownik wrote:
Also are you always thinking 8 hours before deciding on a vote?CalignoBot wrote:
Unvote: DakeDekaane
Lemme think.
I'm still thinking.
I guess we can either wait 'til he gets modkilled or rush another lynch, if someone has something against Cookie's flip. I'd still be more interested in seeing Irre flip, but I guess Cookie is fair enough already. Might be opportunistic, but also might be not, this has already gone too far and I don't see anything else that Cookie could do to look more scummy D1.
I thouht you were suspicious of cookie? And why would you vote someone who is V/LA.CTs-Th wrote:
Still no respond from Cookie and Irre...
And yes, I didn't post so much lately. since there's no new information but Irre's annoying act and rEdo's being a double voter.
Maybe I should vote you, Irre.
FoS CTs
why the hell would you draw attention to the fact that your action might be considered opportunistic?fartownik wrote:
Might be opportunistic, but also might be not, this has already gone too far and I don't see anything else that Cookie could do to look more scummy D1.
I don't see smth like that coming from a town perspective at all. like I find it weird that a town player would worry about his action coming across as opportunistic. as it is this just looks like scum trying to appear town
so I guess scum are fartownik, Irre, Dake, and possibly Cookie
still being a lazy fk but had to pop in here to say that > <
;o I said "opportunistic" because I mentioned this argument against voting for Cookie many times before, please learn to read.
EBWOP: I simply discard my previous argument in that post.
that does not look like redacting your previous argumentfartownik wrote:
I guess we can either wait 'til he gets modkilled or rush another lynch, if someone has something against Cookie's flip. I'd still be more interested in seeing Irre flip, but I guess Cookie is fair enough already. Might be opportunistic, but also might be not, this has already gone too far and I don't see anything else that Cookie could do to look more scummy D1.
it looks like you're flip flopping around so that people won't suspect you for the same argument you suspected others for
fartownik is scum
100%
who wants a fartownik flashwagon
vote: fartownik
btw I have a somewhat working model of town fartownik and this isn't it
we need to lynch this ASAP
we need to lynch this ASAP
Stop shitting me. That's not even a scum-indicating argument.
sry but I demonstrated why it is. so now you should demonstrate why it's not. ball's in your court o/
your attempt at discrediting is noted tho
No, this is just silly. That sentence was just a wary of whether 'opportunistic' still applies for Cookie's case because of his scumness.
Topic Starter
The sky is suddenly getting darker, lightning can be heard all around...
Vote Count 1.14
Vote Count 1.14
[L-3]Irreversible (4) - rEdo, fartownik, rEdo, CTs-Th
Cookie (3) - Raging Bull, Irreversible, NoHitter
fartownik (2) - Sephibro, pieguy1372
DakeDekaane (1): Tsukasa
pieguy1372 (1): DakeDekaane
Not Voting - Cookie, CalignoBot
With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.
Cookie (3) - Raging Bull, Irreversible, NoHitter
fartownik (2) - Sephibro, pieguy1372
DakeDekaane (1): Tsukasa
pieguy1372 (1): DakeDekaane
Not Voting - Cookie, CalignoBot
With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.
??rEdo wrote:
@mod: if he gets modkillled, will the day end, considering he's been one of our suspects?
Topic Starter
CalignoBot explained it very well, it will be so that whichever team he's in isn't favored by the modkill, so if he's town day ends, and if he's scum day continues.
Just posting I'm alive and waiting for this situation to be cleared, as speedlynching us clearly bad.
EBWOP: us -> is
corrector pls
corrector pls
and I'm saying why the hell do you care about how that applies to your vote on him?fartownik wrote:
No, this is just silly. That sentence was just a wary of whether 'opportunistic' still applies for Cookie's case because of his scumness.
also anyone who says this game is boring should note that by this point this thread has more posts than Saki mafia had by game end, so shut up :>
Vote: Irre
I've been gone for probably 2 days or something and nothing really happened
So speedlynching Irre might make something spark
I've been gone for probably 2 days or something and nothing really happened
So speedlynching Irre might make something spark
Just saying Irre is at L-1 and FoS: Tsukasa for not warning that Irre is at L-1.
Topic Starter
From the darkness the grim reaper Sakura appears
Cookie: "No! sorry, I wont do it again! promise!
Sakura: "It is too late"
Sakura slices away at Cookie and takes his soul
[Modkill]Cookie (7) - Raging Bull, Irreversible, NoHitter, Sakura, Sakura, Sakura, Sakura
Irreversible (5) - rEdo, fartownik, rEdo, CTs-Th, Tsukasa
fartownik (2) - Sephibro, pieguy1372
pieguy1372 (1): DakeDekaane
Not Voting - Cookie, CalignoBot
With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.
Cookie Town 1-Shot Vigilante converted to Neutral Survivor has been modkilled D1
And that's how the cookie crumbles
It is now Night 1, All actions are due in my inbox within 48 hours of this post
Cookie: "No! sorry, I wont do it again! promise!
Sakura: "It is too late"
Sakura slices away at Cookie and takes his soul
Irreversible (5) - rEdo, fartownik, rEdo, CTs-Th, Tsukasa
fartownik (2) - Sephibro, pieguy1372
pieguy1372 (1): DakeDekaane
Not Voting - Cookie, CalignoBot
With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.
Cookie Town 1-Shot Vigilante converted to Neutral Survivor has been modkilled D1
And that's how the cookie crumbles
It is now Night 1, All actions are due in my inbox within 48 hours of this post
Sorry was sleepingrEdo wrote:
Cookie's within the prod range, Sakura pls.
Topic Starter
A single lampost lights up in the middle of the night.
Out of the darkness Irreversible steps in and shows a paper, which states a peace treaty for the night.
"I hereby declare this night as a night of peace".
The ability Diplomacy has been used
All kills tonight are blocked, any kill will be defaulted to No Action
Do remember night hasn't ended yet.
Out of the darkness Irreversible steps in and shows a paper, which states a peace treaty for the night.
"I hereby declare this night as a night of peace".
The ability Diplomacy has been used
All kills tonight are blocked, any kill will be defaulted to No Action
Do remember night hasn't ended yet.
Topic Starter
Everyone gathers today and as expected everyone's back here... well everyone except cookie who had an appointment with the grim reaper yesterday
No one died last night (as if you didnt expect that)
It is now Day 2, you have until December 19th 23:53 GMT-5 to hammer
Mod Notes: Night ended early because work.
No one died last night (as if you didnt expect that)
Vote Count 2.0
Not Voting - sephibro, CTs-Th, rEdo, Tsukasa, fartownik, DakeDekaane, CalignoBot, Irreversible, NoHitter, pieguy1372, Raging Bull
With 12 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.
Not Voting - sephibro, CTs-Th, rEdo, Tsukasa, fartownik, DakeDekaane, CalignoBot, Irreversible, NoHitter, pieguy1372, Raging Bull
With 12 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.
It is now Day 2, you have until December 19th 23:53 GMT-5 to hammer
Mod Notes: Night ended early because work.
Fix that, please.Sakura wrote:
Vote Count 2.0
Not Voting - sephibro, CTs-Th, rEdo, Tsukasa, fartownik, DakeDekaane, CalignoBot, Irreversible, NoHitter,Cookie, pieguy1372, Raging Bull
With 12 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.
Also, that Diplomacy thing doesn't really prove that Irreversible is Town, but that's just my opinion for now.
vote fartownik
I see that Diplomacy as more of a town role. Well that means, I'm out of suspects now and have to reread.
@RB
Why vote farto?
@RB
Why vote farto?
Yes, that's a first thought that came into my mind as well, but that could also be a scum role due to the fact that there are two scumteams. Just a little of WIFOM thrown in there.NoHitter wrote:
I see that Diplomacy as more of a town role. Well that means, I'm out of suspects now and have to reread.
@RB
Why vote farto?
why?Raging Bull wrote:
vote fartownik
if you discovered something you should let us know
Also the Diplomacy thing is 95% town action, and i guess it's one-shot
I think the one who used it can feel safe to claim for us to have one confirmed, if RB doesn't have a valid explanation to his vote
I think the one who used it can feel safe to claim for us to have one confirmed, if RB doesn't have a valid explanation to his vote
Irre used diplomacy.
As for the vote, i just have weird vibes from fart. Calling my vote opportunistic, but near the end it looked as if he didnt care as much about votes on cookie sincsince he couldnt look any scummier
As for the vote, i just have weird vibes from fart. Calling my vote opportunistic, but near the end it looked as if he didnt care as much about votes on cookie sincsince he couldnt look any scummier
lol i didn't notice it was used by irre
so ok i guess we can consider him conf for now
And your flash vote gave me the hope that you found something interesting about him.. if this one's the reason, it just looks like a scum attempt to frame him
so ok i guess we can consider him conf for now
And your flash vote gave me the hope that you found something interesting about him.. if this one's the reason, it just looks like a scum attempt to frame him
Well reDo, you're actually the most annoying Player atm, since you just always suspect me, no matter what i do right?
Then deliver me some fine content. Yes, I might be annoying, but almost every game I play with you, I get a lot of mixed feelings about you. That's when I try to force you to talk, but at most times you just end up launching your emo mode and posting stuff like "lol I don't care about this game anymore". Sigh.
I changed my mind?Raging Bull wrote:
Irre used diplomacy.
As for the vote, i just have weird vibes from fart. Calling my vote opportunistic, but near the end it looked as if he didnt care as much about votes on cookie sincsince he couldnt look any scummier
Irre, what are the consequences of your diplomacy action? Stopping all the nightkills is op as fuck, there must be some balance under it, at least I don't believe there's none.
Irre's action doesn't actually confirm him as Town yet. We were really close to his lynch yesterday, yet he didn't oppose or didn't say anything despite having such powerful role in his hands? Smeels like anti-town.
Also Irre, that's just your general playstyle characteristic. The fact that no one has seen your scumplay here yet (correct me if I'm wrong, but I personally haven't seen him as scum yet?) also matters. People don't know what to expect when you're finally rolled scum.
anti town with that ability would have claimed even more, what you're saying hasn't a logicfartownik wrote:
Irre's action doesn't actually confirm him as Town yet. We were really close to his lynch yesterday, yet he didn't oppose or didn't say anything despite having such powerful role in his hands? Smeels like anti-town.
He said he's moving his house for 3 days?fartownik wrote:
Irre's action doesn't actually confirm him as Town yet. We were really close to his lynch yesterday, yet he didn't oppose or didn't say anything despite having such powerful role in his hands? Smeels like anti-town.
I didn't say he should've claimed. I said he should've done at least something not to get himself lynched. Cookie's modkill basically saved his ass.
And? Before V/LA he was already a strong suspect in most players' eyes.CTs-Th wrote:
He said he's moving his house for 3 days?
Yes farto, it has a disadvantage. And you should all know that I'm not good in that Kind of stuff, hm? Well.. let's Focus on the several wagons now, since voting me got completely useless with that disadvantage.
more to come.
more to come.
Topic Starter
Vote Count 2.01
Countdown until deadline
fartownik (1) - Raging Bull
Not Voting - sephibro, CTs-Th, rEdo, Tsukasa, fartownik, DakeDekaane, CalignoBot, Irreversible, NoHitter, Cookie, pieguy1372
With 12 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.
Not Voting - sephibro, CTs-Th, rEdo, Tsukasa, fartownik, DakeDekaane, CalignoBot, Irreversible, NoHitter, Cookie, pieguy1372
With 12 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.
Countdown until deadline
Changing your mind at such a convenient time when he was going to get modkilled. Okay. Plus I don't get why you would mention your actions at opportunistic. I voted for cookie and not really cared since I thought he was scum, you seemed to be worried about your actions.
I was worried about people on his wagon. Then I changed my mind on him because the same rule doesn't apply on everyone at every time. Get the point?
Hell to the no. The only person you were worried about was me because of my "Shit guys lets just vote Cookie" post. You even believed he was strong town at one point (1) and then you really tried your best to make sure cookie will not get lynched (2) and finally you said you don't see how he can make him look any scummier. (3). Essentially, it's just saying "I read him as strong town and I will not get him lynched, but he is still scummy and I will settle for cookie lynch."
(1)
(2)
At that point Cookie felt like an opportunistic lynch, nothing to add here. We're going in circles.
(3)
I didn't negate Cookie's scummy behavior ever. I only pointed out it might be due to him being a newbie Town. And later I changed my mind over the matter and decided that it might actually not be so and he's actually scum. Pardon my change of stances with D1 reads.
Not sure where this is going honestly. I've already said those things.
fartownik wrote:
The second-to-last post of Cookie is strongly Town imo.
Don't manipulate my words please.fartownik wrote:
post
(2)
At that point Cookie felt like an opportunistic lynch, nothing to add here. We're going in circles.
(3)
I didn't negate Cookie's scummy behavior ever. I only pointed out it might be due to him being a newbie Town. And later I changed my mind over the matter and decided that it might actually not be so and he's actually scum. Pardon my change of stances with D1 reads.
Not sure where this is going honestly. I've already said those things.
farto eats rope today
vote: farto
vote: farto
ftr he pinged one of my strongest hidden scumtells somewhere on D1
no I won't reveal where or what it is but I'm like 100% sure he's scum
no I won't reveal where or what it is but I'm like 100% sure he's scum
the tl;dr of it is he's a giant lurkfuck as scumfartownik wrote:
Also Irre, that's just your general playstyle characteristic. The fact that no one has seen your scumplay here yet (correct me if I'm wrong, but I personally haven't seen him as scum yet?) also matters. People don't know what to expect when you're finally rolled scum.
he's lurking here too but it doesn't feel like he's trying to do anything either
when it comes to actual sorting tho we can just leave him for later. his role seems town but given multiball it might not be
1) Ermaigerd Irre is town 
2)I think I missed the reasons for farto wagon. Nvm RB already said it. I kinda missed that wishy-washy-ness amidts the cookie modkill
3)
Also, Losing interest in getting lynch is either a town who doesn't care, or scum who just broke.
The former only applies to non PRs.
4) RB is town
5)
2)
3)
At least he could have been town enough not to get lynched >w> (No offense Irre)Sephibro wrote:
anti town with that ability would have claimed even more, what you're saying hasn't a logicfartownik wrote:
Irre's action doesn't actually confirm him as Town yet. We were really close to his lynch yesterday, yet he didn't oppose or didn't say anything despite having such powerful role in his hands? Smeels like anti-town.
Also, Losing interest in getting lynch is either a town who doesn't care, or scum who just broke.
The former only applies to non PRs.
4) RB is town
5)
that is not a vote for fandwerik
vote fandwerik 2014
vote fandwerik 2014