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pieguyn
best typo ever

even if you're scum :cry:
Raging Bull
Unvote

Look, I'll entertain you now, but because of your very awesome tunneling and inaccurate gut feeling in this game, I do not believe you are my suspect anymore. Granted I still don't care what you say about me after this.

pieguy1372 wrote:

I'm almost positive RB is scum

town RB gets angry when I push him and isn't afraid to 1v1 me to the death. scum RB, on the other hand, stays calmly and doesn't push back at people who push him as much

he needs moar votes ASAP plz ~
AND YO MOTHER FATHER, I CAN CHANGE MY META ANYTIME I WANT!!!!! I RATHER LYNCH YOU THAN SCUM NOW!

Vote:Cookie
Tsukasa
Let's all be friends now.

*points to GiF's Signature*
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 1.08

DakeDekaane (3): Tsukasa, CalignoBot, CTs-Th
Cookie (3) - NoHitter, rEdo, Raging Bull
pieguy1372 (1): DakeDekaane
fartownik (1) - Sephibro
Raging Bully (1) - pieguy1372

Not Voting - Irreversible, Cookie, fartownik

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.

Please let me know if you see any mistakes.
fartownik

Sephibro wrote:

and farto, there's something that stinks about you, too: I would expect the same reaction to 2 post with the same content - here you have opposite ones
A farto + Cookie scumteam would make sense
Same content is not the same person that wrote it. I thought Cookie was newbs at first, a newbs would do such thing as a way to falsely contribute to Town, even when he's Town himself, so the argument of setup speculation wouldn't apply. But on the other side, NH said he actually played a couple of games on the IRC before so I'm wary about him again.

By the way, your scumspects and arguments on them are very weak. Your last post seemed huge as fuck, but there was actually nothing in there that would be considered useful, good mirage there. You basically only sheep me for the Irre suspicion + attack me on my post. The case on Cookie and rEdo is not reasoned enough, but you still put them as your main scumspects.

pieguy1372 wrote:

speaking of fartownik I have a meta tell on him and I haven't seen town-him here yet
but the game just started so
I will start swearing like a sailor when the game gets hot, I promise.
fartownik

CalignoBot wrote:

fartownik wrote:

Welp, Cookie seems very scummy right now.

Unvote
Vote: Cookie
This guy can go in the scumpile too.
Also wat, what's scummy in this?
Uni
Wow you guys are master stalkers, since i never told anyone that i recently started playing Mafia on IRC, but fair enough I'm still learning it
the reason i unvoted on DD was because i rereaded the stuff that happened before that which made me realised i made the mistake i made on it

@Sephibro i looked over it apparently because i didnt read that before

feel free to lynch me but it wont help town at all
Chamelo
Well, that's escalated quickly...

Tsukasa wrote:

CTs-Th wrote:

Vote : DakeDekaane for what he did make me sense "scumness" from him.
I do not even...
Wha... what? Did I miss something?
Btw, I've re-read Dake's ISO. Still confused and unable to analyse anything. Maybe, just maybe, he isn't scum.

Unvote.

My head is filled with unsorted information right now. Due to newbie, I can't perform any read. : |
Chamelo
I feel like some people here "pretend" that they didn't read rule so they don't know that there're 2 scumteams and 2 players each.

@Cookie
If your "reaction fishing" was real. Then you doesn't need to tell us reasons why you vote Dake. Nor do you have any.
But if it wasn't real and your vote was really a mistake. Then please tell me and everybody here why you vote Dake for the first time. Even it's just your mistaken idea.
pieguyn

fartownik wrote:

I will start swearing like a sailor when the game gets hot, I promise.
that wasn't it but ok

will make a real post later
NoHitter

Cookie wrote:

Wow you guys are master stalkers, since i never told anyone that i recently started playing Mafia on IRC, but fair enough I'm still learning it
I saw you on IRC lol.

Cookie wrote:

the reason i unvoted on DD was because i rereaded the stuff that happened before that which made me realised i made the mistake i made on it
You didn't have to lie about it and claim it was a reaction test. Lying like that is a scumtell. So yeah, tell us what was your initial reason.

Cookie wrote:

feel free to lynch me but it wont help town at all
The "lynch me but it won't help you" card being played this early? Deadline is still a long ways from now and you weren't even at L-2 yet, so why are you so desperate?
DakeDekaane
Oh my, Cookie, you took the bait in the wrong way. I wasn't even considering you scum as you said you were to explain why you were voting me. The post wasn't even directed at you, it was directed to everyone that would vote me after that post as it's said in it. I'd be really glad to hear if you really had a reason to vote me or they were just empty words.

Or if it was truly a reaction test, what did you get from it?
Raging Bull

CTs-Th wrote:

Wha... what? Did I miss something?
Btw, I've re-read Dake's ISO. Still confused and unable to analyse anything. Maybe, just maybe, he isn't scum.

Unvote.

My head is filled with unsorted information right now. Due to newbie, I can't perform any read. : |
Idk how you read him as scum and then re reading his ISO made you even more confused and think he isn't scum. What did he say to you that pinged scum to you?
Tsukasa

Cookie wrote:

Wow you guys are master stalkers, since i never told anyone that i recently started playing Mafia on IRC
You did to me like, once? twice? thrice? IDK

Anyways...

I won't be posting as much as I do anymore because I'm really losing interest because of some people (Not here, btw).
And yeah... Oh well
Chamelo

Raging Bull wrote:

CTs-Th wrote:

Wha... what? Did I miss something?
Btw, I've re-read Dake's ISO. Still confused and unable to analyse anything. Maybe, just maybe, he isn't scum.

Unvote.

My head is filled with unsorted information right now. Due to newbie, I can't perform any read. : |
Idk how you read him as scum and then re reading his ISO made you even more confused and think he isn't scum. What did he say to you that pinged scum to you?
Well, first, he's the first person who stack vote on Tsukasa.
Second, I feel like he keeps throwing his vote to anybody else, like to distract.
He voted rEdo once because he stacked his vote, while he was the first person who stacking vote.
He said that Irre is scum (or looks scummy) when she RV me. (Yeah, rEdo ninja-ed him for 15 seconds. So that "^scum pls" is meant to Irre) I don't know much about this, but it looks like he's trying to blame someone in order to make anybody else focus on it. (imo)

So that's why I thought Dake is scum. But if considered again. He maybe not a scum. (Notice "just maybe" in my previous post.)
Chamelo
My read on Dake may have some mistake. I'm not sure but I want him to explain something that I suspect. ^^^ up here.

@Dake : You don't have to, but if you think that my read is wrong then simple, explain it. Like I did in my previous post.
Sephibro
Is CTs-Th one of those players who always state obvious and useless things or does he do that only when he's scum?
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 1.09

Cookie (3) - NoHitter, rEdo, Raging Bull
DakeDekaane (2): Tsukasa, CalignoBot
pieguy1372 (1): DakeDekaane
fartownik (1) - Sephibro
Raging Bully (1) - pieguy1372

Not Voting - Irreversible, Cookie, fartownik, CTs-Th

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.

Please let me know if you see any mistakes.
Chamelo
I can't do much things but gather information and hope that it'll useful in some situation.

Sorry if I'm #1 distraction. :(

This is my first time play, so yeah...
Sephibro
oh then it is ok, sorry
fartownik
Well, I wouldn't be too harsh to him. We don't want any players to lose interest in this game because not much people are willing to replace.

Sephibro, why do you even ask this question when you know it's his first game, meh.
fartownik
Ah, ninja'd.
fartownik
So, will this game move forward or something?
Raging Bull
mfw when people join and disappear
pieguyn
proddodge(); //too tired right now sry
pieguyn
in the meantime
vote: Dake
he just calls people opportunistic without explaining why their jumps are bad. if he really thought that he should at least throw some reasons out there ~
DakeDekaane
They were be opportunistic. One of the reasons they said when voted me was saying I was sheeping rEdo and I already stated I wasn't. I really don't understand how my vote on you looked scummy.

And if you're wondering why I stacked votes on Tsukasa was to look for who jumped in that early wagon, now they were spotted and we could create some discussion.
pieguyn

DakeDekaane wrote:

They were be opportunistic. One of the reasons they said when voted me was saying I was sheeping rEdo and I already stated I wasn't. I really don't understand how my vote on you looked scummy.
last sentence is terrible. if you don't understand, then quit being sad about it and fkin ask the people why your vote was scummy. and if you think they're BS'ing then you should be able to call them on it.

DakeDekaane wrote:

And if you're wondering why I stacked votes on Tsukasa was to look for who jumped in that early wagon, now they were spotted and we could create some discussion.
and what makes you think the other people stacking votes on him weren't doing the same thing?

this shit outlines the opportunistic nature of your play and objectively shows how you're not considering the motivation behind said actions
Topic Starter
Sakura
With the rustling winds the chief goes through the gathered people, and slaps with a ruler the people that were falling asleep

rEdo, Cookie, Irreversible have been prodded

Vote Count 1.10

Cookie (3) - NoHitter, rEdo, Raging Bull
DakeDekaane (3): Tsukasa, CalignoBot, pieguy1372
pieguy1372 (1): DakeDekaane
fartownik (1) - Sephibro

Not Voting - Irreversible, Cookie, fartownik, CTs-Th

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.

Countdown for day end

Please let me know if you see any mistakes
rEdo
Prod dodge. I was busy with exams and now with OWC, thus I'll re-read this at Saturday's evening and post something.
fartownik
But you've already been prodded.
Topic Starter
Sakura

rEdo wrote:

I was busy with exams and now with OWC,
Next time let me know in thread (bold) or in PM that you're going to be away for some time so you don't get prodded.
rEdo
I got ninja'd :(
fartownik
Unvote
Vote: Sephibro


I guess I will leave it here.
Irreversible
orz I'm currently moving my town where I live >< But ok, since I got time right now

Alright, first of all, I was really asking this. I'm still unsure about stuff like that and I wanna avoid saying some shit and blame myself (for example I thought there are 3 Mafia Players, where there only have been 2, and it was pretty obvious, well)

Cookie wrote:

feel free to lynch me but it wont help town at all
Town would never want that the others feel free to lynch him. That's really antitown.
Vote: Cookie

I leave this vote here now.
Topic Starter
Sakura

Irreversible wrote:

orz I'm currently moving my town where I live >< But ok, since I got time right now
Just like i told rEdo, feel free to let me know (in bold or by PM) if you're going to be unable to post for real life issues so you don't get prodded (and so others know what's going on with you)
pieguyn
@mod: can you plz put the deadline in with the vote counts? I keep wanting to be lazy since there's no indication of when hte deadline is and I sure as hell can't remember it > <

Added the countdown link to the last vote count, also i'm going to be adding it on all vote counts from now on
~Sakura
Raging Bull
I thought it was funny how pieguy got off me after I said I don't think he's scum.

I don't really see how Dake is scum. Then again, not a lot of activity anywhereeeee.

Get cookie already guys.
Tsukasa

pieguy1372 wrote:

in the meantime
vote: Dake
he just calls people opportunistic without explaining why their jumps are bad. if he really thought that he should at least throw some reasons out there ~
Sheep me, my pretties, sheeeeeep

/fluff

hash-hump someone do something quick :(
pieguyn
I'm eyeing Irre atm

I know he's a giant lurkfuck as scum and he isn't posting much here. (that's where my townread on him in mistakes upick came from. but I couldn't say at the time)

Raging Bull wrote:

I thought it was funny how pieguy got off me after I said I don't think he's scum.
more like I'm too tired to continue 1v1 you right now

interesting how you don't go into why you think it was a direct causation, rather than just happening at the same time
Chamelo
Prod dodge :?

I'll post some more in a few hours later.
DakeDekaane
But you were already proded :P

Is it me or pieguy always tries to avoid 1v1 with RB?
Chamelo
Me? Nope. That's Cookie
pieguyn

DakeDekaane wrote:

But you were already proded :P

Is it me or pieguy always tries to avoid 1v1 with RB?
you're fucking joking right

in fact I went out of my way to start a 1v1 with him, since I know he reacts differently when I 1v1 him

this is so fucking terrible I refuse to believe you're town anymore. this needs to be lynched today
DakeDekaane
Ye, I'm terrible, but I don't need to be lynched, as scum could kill me freely to dispatch me instead getting me lynched.

Even if he reacts differently, you could've gotten something in that 1v1
Tsukasa

DakeDekaane wrote:

Ye, I'm terrible, but I don't need to be lynched, as scum could kill me freely to dispatch me instead getting me lynched.

Even if he reacts differently, you could've gotten something in that 1v1
I'm p-sure

Scum would keep you alive

Pretty sure
NoHitter

Irreversible wrote:

Alright, first of all, I was really asking this. I'm still unsure about stuff like that and I wanna avoid saying some shit and blame myself (for example I thought there are 3 Mafia Players, where there only have been 2, and it was pretty obvious, well)
Uhh... There are 4 Mafia players split into two teams of two... -_-
FoS: Irre
Amianki
Prod dodge for right now. I'll catch up and offer more thoughts tomorrow.
fartownik
RB stinks scum for his last post. Cookie would be a really opportunistic lynch for today imo. I hate that in most games newbies are lynched first because no one considers how scummy they might look only by being reckless, even if Town. The most opportunistic lynch of the day = possible scum trying to bring it. Also why would he even mention that pieguy got off him after he said he looks Town to him? If that's so then he still tries to pointlessly bring pieguy as scum, while he reads him as Town, or perhaps he said he reads him as Town just to see his reaction?
Raging Bull
I don't have any one I read as scum besides cookie. I admit that the only thing I didn't think about when voting him is that we can try to get more information today. But voting for him was in no way being opportunistic.

fartownik wrote:

Also why would he even mention that pieguy got off him after he said he looks Town to him? If that's so then he still tries to pointlessly bring pieguy as scum, while he reads him as Town, or perhaps he said he reads him as Town just to see his reaction?
Okay maybe that part really wasn't necessary from me, but I really thought it was just funny.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 1.11

Cookie (4) - NoHitter, rEdo, Raging Bull, Irreversible
DakeDekaane (3): Tsukasa, CalignoBot, pieguy1372
pieguy1372 (1): DakeDekaane
fartownik (1) - Sephibro
Sephibro (1) - fartownik

Not Voting - Cookie, CTs-Th

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.

Countdown to Day end

Please let me know if you see any mistakes
Chamelo
Still no respond from Cookie.

I think he'll be modkilled, won't he?
rEdo

Irreversible wrote:

Cookie wrote:

feel free to lynch me but it wont help town at all
Town would never want that the others feel free to lynch him. That's really antitown.
Vote: Cookie
Obvious try to join the Cookie wagon with giving shit reasons. I'm not even sure if that 's just a regular silly Irreversible's play, or he's leaning scum this time ._."

Well, let's just drop this by.
Vote: Irreversible
Topic Starter
Sakura
Searching for a replacement for Cookie...
Raging Bull
V/LA for approx 36 hours meeting peppy today hopefully!
NoHitter
Yeah... anyone?

Mod: Can youa dd the countdown to the OP?

Done
~Sakura
Chamelo
So quiet today. :|

Will this game even move on?
fartownik
This game is boring as shit.
NoHitter
Vote: Irre

Yeah re: Cookie, if he is going to get modkilled and is scum, then it's useless to vote him. The usual protocol anyway is that modkilled scum = day doesn't end.
Will be changing back should be get a replacement.
Irreversible
I'm already fed up with this game now. Only because I still don't really get the Setups, why not vote Irreversible. That's so fucking annoying, I just try to read some peoples, and you say I wagon them. Should I randomly put pressure on People that didn't even post yet? Great.

Won't be here for another 3 days. We're still moving our house, and I can't really Access the Forum properly without laggs. Also, I don't have really time because of the moving as well. I might finish earlier, I'll let you know.

Noted
~Sakura
Sephibro
this game isn't hyphing me just like Mistake UPick :(
pls guys do something
fartownik
Unvote
Vpte: Irreversible

Clumsy scum.
fartownik
Jeez,

Vote: Irreversible
fartownik

Sephibro wrote:

this game isn't hyphing me just like Mistake UPick :(
pls guys do something
Also you could do something yourself instead of telling others to do something.
pieguyn
let's speedlynch someone
fartownik
Well, Irre would be a good choice imo. He got pretty upset/annoyed there for barely a reason, there's a good chance he got scum this game.
Sephibro
cookie is a better option imo - or maybe we should just force his modkill
fartownik
We're not going for an opportunistic lynch. At least not while I'm here.
rEdo
ewww, screw it.
Vote2: Irreversible
fartownik
lol. rEdo's probably Town.
fartownik
@mod: votecount please
rEdo

fartownik wrote:

lol. rEdo's probably Town.
:))
fartownik
Okay, I take that back. If you're a doublevoter, what's the point with voting 2 different people at the same time? Especially when there's really no more pressure you could put on them.
fartownik
Unless that was just a typo and you have a regular amount of votes D:
rEdo
Just in case anybody asks - I wanna push this game forward since it's been way too boring past three days, and Irreversible looks like a good target for our today's lynch, so I won't even bother hiding with my double-vote ability.

fartownik wrote:

Okay, I take that back. If you're a doublevoter, what's the point with voting 2 different people at the same time? Especially when there's really no more pressure you could put on them.
I did change my vote from Cookie to Irreversible, sir.
rEdo
fartownik
Oh, damn. Overlooked that one because of the upper votecount. Okay, still legit and most likely Town.
fartownik
EBWOP: Especially if Irre flips scum.
DakeDekaane
So what's the reason of lynching Irre over Cookie? Both are absent (Cookie would be replaced and Irre is V/LA). I can think in both wagons being opportunistic as they're pretty much going over inactive people, it's true this may be lurking but I'm not sure at all.
rEdo

DakeDekaane wrote:

So what's the reason of lynching Irre over Cookie? Both are absent (Cookie would be replaced and Irre is V/LA). I can think in both wagons being opportunistic as they're pretty much going over inactive people, it's true this may be lurking but I'm not sure at all.
The huge difference is, he hasn't done anything notable this game except for a blatant try to join the Cookie wagon and some set-up speculation. Just read his ISO.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 1.12

Irreversible (4) - rEdo, NoHitter, fartownik, rEdo
DakeDekaane (3): Tsukasa, CalignoBot, pieguy1372
Cookie (2) - Raging Bull, Irreversible
pieguy1372 (1): DakeDekaane
fartownik (1) - Sephibro

Not Voting - Cookie, CTs-Th

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.

Countdown to deadline

If you see any mistakes, please let me know.
pieguyn
vote: Irre
Sephibro
that's not that obvious - also doublevoter is a really strong ability, and i guess it's scum that have strong abilities on this setup
rEdo

Sephibro wrote:

that's not that obvious - also doublevoter is a really strong ability, and i guess it's scum that have strong abilities on this setup
Four scum and one of them with a double-vote ability? No, thank you.
Sephibro
4 scum who 2v2 - yes please
rEdo

Sephibro wrote:

4 scum who 2v2 - yes please
Still, that would be a rather harsh set-up for Town to handle.
fartownik

Sephibro wrote:

that's not that obvious - also doublevoter is a really strong ability, and i guess it's scum that have strong abilities on this setup
What the hell is this assumption. Where did the 'it's scum that have strong abilities on this setup' come from? How do you know that?
Sephibro
balance issues
fartownik
Town has PRs as well. How do you get the idea that the scum ones are more powerful?
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 1.13

[L-2]Irreversible (5) - rEdo, NoHitter, fartownik, rEdo, pieguy1372
DakeDekaane (2): Tsukasa, CalignoBot
Cookie (2) - Raging Bull, Irreversible
pieguy1372 (1): DakeDekaane
fartownik (1) - Sephibro

Not Voting - Cookie, CTs-Th

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.

Countdown to deadline


If cookie doesnt come back nor I get a replacement by next vote count cookie will be modkilled.
Raging Bull
Im back now but at work. And dota had scum doublevoter too. Im sure town would have balanced PRs too. If it gets near lylo, we cman policy lynch redo, but i havent seen much of his iso to see if hes town or scum to me
Raging Bull
Meet bancho :> https://db.tt/AOqJneSQ
Uni
Holy i totally forgot about it this weekend sorry guys ill read the stuff later on today
Tsukasa

fartownik wrote:

Jeez,

Vote: Irreversible

pieguy1372 wrote:

let's speedlynch someone
Not irre, IMO

I sense some honesty on that AtE

fartownik wrote:

lol. rEdo's probably Town.
We're thinking oppositely.
Is rEdo town because he's voting Irre?
Raging Bull
I thought he think rEdo is town because of double vote? Although maybe it's also weird to have him not suspect a scum double voter.
Tsukasa
Assuming this is role SPARTAAAA

I will not be doubtful of a scum double voter
fartownik
I assumed that doublevoter, if in possession of scum, would be way stronger hidden than revealed already at D1. If rEdo lasted alive until the decisive days of the game (as scum) he could simply just jump in with his doublevote when someone was at L-2 and finish the game (if advantageous for scum). Right now his ability only works as a support of his main vote. Also we are aware of that and can avoid getting into L-2 without at least one vote from rEdo in the wagon. He basically turned himself in, losing the main gambit of his ability.

I don't necessarily exclude the possibility it could've been just for the towncred, but for now it seemed legit in my eyes.
NoHitter
I agree with farto about rEdo. Outing being a doublevoter for towncred is even riskier in this situation if rEdo is scum.
Considering the setup, the other team would likely NK you if you did that.

Also switching my vote back to Cookie now that he's back.
Vote: Cookie
rEdo
I did actually gambit here with my claim. Yes, that was a risky call, but I don't really have anything else besides that double-vote, so I guess claiming it was a right decision - it gives scum a signal that I'm not scum myself, hence reducing the amount of the targets for them to NK from 10 to 9, which is a good thing for both us (town) and them - they've got a narrower list of people to target (providing they're targetting scum from the opposite team), which gives us a slightly higher chance of getting scum killed tonight. It was a double-edged sword, though - now I am most likely to get killed tonight anyway :P

Also, assuming that I'm scum just because I've got that double-vote, with no other coverage, is kinda silly in my opinion.

Holding tight to my votes on Irreversible for now - I'm looking forward to reading from Cookie first.
rEdo
EBWOP: [...] now I am most likely to get killed tonight if my plans won't work out and they won't believe me
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