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This is the right way to go actually
and we shouldn't hammer no lynch until everyone outs their results, with N1 results we should have each one's sanities and catch the serial killer or with N2 results at the latest.
and we shouldn't hammer no lynch until everyone outs their results, with N1 results we should have each one's sanities and catch the serial killer or with N2 results at the latest.
Updating.
Sakura wrote:
Night 0 Results
Sakura = Not Naive.
Sephibro = Not Paranoid.
GuyInFreezer = Not Naive.
Confirmation is confirmation. People tend to joke or whenever they want, it is null-tell. What make you it is kinda bit suspicious?
If we target the same person, then the result will be same isn't it? I kinda agitated with this kind of logic, seriously...
We can't self-target. I already want to do that to guessing my insanity. lol
I prefer we have discussion and the others. Ending the day without everyone here is stupid.
If we target the same person, then the result will be same isn't it? I kinda agitated with this kind of logic, seriously...
We can't self-target. I already want to do that to guessing my insanity. lol
I prefer we have discussion and the others. Ending the day without everyone here is stupid.
Where's your report
Anyway, Sakura is Innocent. Whatever... No death-tunneling Sakura, bullshit 
This is how Dethy usually works.
We out our results, obv serial killer has to make something up.
With a flip from the night we will know from anyone targetting on them what's their sanity or something close, also crossing results from night actions, until eventually we find 2 people that are the same sanity one of the 2 is lying.
Here's all Sanities for reference:
Sane = Guilty on serial killer, Innocent on everyone else.
Insane = Innocent on serial killer, Guilty on everyone else.
Naive = Innocent on everyone.
Paranoid = Guilty on everyone.
If someone has 2 Innocent results on different people and 1 guilty result, they are sane, and lynch the Guilty.
If someone has 2 Guilty results on different people and 1 Inncoent result, they are Insane, lynch the Innocent.
We out our results, obv serial killer has to make something up.
With a flip from the night we will know from anyone targetting on them what's their sanity or something close, also crossing results from night actions, until eventually we find 2 people that are the same sanity one of the 2 is lying.
Here's all Sanities for reference:
Sane = Guilty on serial killer, Innocent on everyone else.
Insane = Innocent on serial killer, Guilty on everyone else.
Naive = Innocent on everyone.
Paranoid = Guilty on everyone.
If someone has 2 Innocent results on different people and 1 guilty result, they are sane, and lynch the Guilty.
If someone has 2 Guilty results on different people and 1 Inncoent result, they are Insane, lynch the Innocent.
This game's gonna be easy. We're waiting for Nyquill now.
Sakura wrote:
Updating.Sakura wrote:
Night 0 Results
Sakura = Not Naive.
Sephibro = Not Paranoid.
GuyInFreezer = Not Naive.
Lincolm = Not Paranoid.
Depends on Nyquill's result, we might have two clears today lol
Actually Imma put everyone's results as well for reference (in case 2 ppl get different results on the same person, there cannot be more than 2 guilties on a single person, nor more than 2 Innocents if my calculations are right)
Sephibro > Sakura (Innocent)
Sakura > Sephibro (Guilty)
GiF > Sakura (Guilty)
Lincolm > Sakura (Innocent)
Sephibro Not Naive
Sakura Not Paranoid
GiF Not Naive
Lincolm Not Paranoid
2 ppl already have declared me guilty one of them is Paranoid and the other is Insane, I suggest you 2 target the same person I targeted last night.
Sephibro > Sakura (Innocent)
Sakura > Sephibro (Guilty)
GiF > Sakura (Guilty)
Lincolm > Sakura (Innocent)
Sephibro Not Naive
Sakura Not Paranoid
GiF Not Naive
Lincolm Not Paranoid
2 ppl already have declared me guilty one of them is Paranoid and the other is Insane, I suggest you 2 target the same person I targeted last night.
*2 people have declared innocent (why was i including my result on sephibro?)*
So instead one is naive and the other is sane.
So instead one is naive and the other is sane.
Wait why is sephi not naive again?
Ops i meant Not paranoid
Fixed.
Sakura wrote:
Sephibro > Sakura (Innocent)
Sakura > Sephibro (Guilty)
GiF > Sakura (Guilty)
Lincolm > Sakura (Innocent)
Sephibro Not Paranoid
Sakura Not Naive
GiF Not Naive
Lincolm Not Paranoid
Also since Nyquill was the last to claim today he should be the first to claim tomorrow, just in case.
Actually, Sakura's clear.
If Sakura is scum, I have to be paranoid, and Lincolm and Sephi both have to be insane, which can't happen.
So 1 of Seph/Lincolm is Naive and the other Sane.
it is obvious that if we all target the same person it will be easier to guess everyone's sanity (adding the information we already got from n0)Lincolm wrote:
If we target the same person, then the result will be same isn't it? I kinda agitated with this kind of logic, seriously...
also good job everyone, thanks to this maybe we managed to target the same person on N0 tooLincolm wrote:
Reminder : Death Tunneling Sakura is the best move.
It depends on Nyquill's claim. But I think it's possible that this game can be solved today.
or one is skSakura wrote:
So 1 of Seph/Lincolm is Naive and the other Sane.
i agree - who do we target next night? nyquill?GuyInFreezer wrote:
It depends on Nyquill's claim. But I think it's possible that this game can be solved today.
Somehow I read that as target the same person at N0.Sephibro wrote:
it is obvious that if we all target the same person it will be easier to guess everyone's sanity (adding the information we already got from n0)Lincolm wrote:
If we target the same person, then the result will be same isn't it? I kinda agitated with this kind of logic, seriously...
Correct, depends on Nyquill.Sephibro wrote:
or one is skSakura wrote:
So 1 of Seph/Lincolm is Naive and the other Sane.
Which means im either Insane or Paranoid, if GiF is Paranoid then I'm Insane, which means Sephibro would be town too. If GiF is Insane then I'm Paranoid.
Of course we still need Nyquill's results to form any further decissions.
Of course we still need Nyquill's results to form any further decissions.
It really depends on Nyquil's result. As I said, it is possible that this game can be solved today.Sephibro wrote:
i agree - who do we target next night? nyquill?GuyInFreezer wrote:
It depends on Nyquill's claim. But I think it's possible that this game can be solved today.
Technically, Sakura, you can be sane as well. (If that's the case, Sephi is SK lol)
Yeah normally you dont get clears D1 because eveyrone targets someone different.
And if scum kills whoever we agree to target then it's easier because their actual alignment is known.
And if scum kills whoever we agree to target then it's easier because their actual alignment is known.
Sephibro wrote:
you shouldn't have said that sakura
Also, apart from the result, I think scum is in Lincom/Nyquill.
Shouldn't be a problem because if anything im most likely to die tonightSephibro wrote:
you shouldn't have said that sakura
i meant today - 28/11, not today - d1.GuyInFreezer wrote:
It really depends on Nyquil's result. As I said, it is possible that this game can be solved today.Sephibro wrote:
i agree - who do we target next night? nyquill?
We lack on information to be sure who's sk d1
Got innocent on Lincolm.
Just woke up, and I have a test right now. Will post in afternoon
Just woke up, and I have a test right now. Will post in afternoon
I'm clear.
I was really hoping that Nyquill would claim guilty on someone though.
the only one who may already know our sanities is the sk - that's why i suggested not to share information d1
Nah, sharing info today was worthy. We already have two confirmed towns.
but in that case we would have lost the n0 result of whoever gets killed n1, so it's almost the same
Topic Starter
The girl known as Furudo Erika shortly returns, carrying a sawed-off shotgun and says, "Oh I nearly forgot to clarify. Of course, you cannot investigate yourselves. That would be silly. You yourself already know whether or not you're the killer."Sephibro wrote:
@mod: can a cop target self?
The girl leaves the parlor after that, saying she needs to get some objects from the gardening shed.
I feel like lynching Nyquill today while Sephi/Lincolm crosschecks and Me/Sakura checks Lincolm.
At least we have confirmed town, regard mafia game is about paranoia.Sephibro wrote:
but in that case we would have lost the n0 result of whoever gets killed n1, so it's almost the same
kNoHitter wrote:
whether or not you're the killer or not.
what nh said, why would you ever need to target yourself?
Okay i'm off for real now.
Okay i'm off for real now.
Why Nyquill? Why not me or Sephi?GuyInFreezer wrote:
I feel like lynching Nyquill today while Sephi/Lincolm crosschecks and Me/Sakura checks Lincolm.
Do you object?
We need to lynch today, and that's for sure.
We need to lynch today, and that's for sure.
Would be better since targeting someone can be the SK if we're insane or sane, even though it is lesser chance.Nyquill wrote:
what nh said, why would you ever need to target yourself?
Okay i'm off for real now.
And I feel like lynching Nyquill because he didn't had a report on Sakura
.... But I'm confirmed town.
No, if there is better result when we lynch Sephi or Me, it would be better, isn't it?GuyInFreezer wrote:
Do you object?
We need to lynch today, and that's for sure.
Can you clarify how this confirms you GiF?Sakura wrote:
Sephibro > Sakura (Innocent)
Sakura > Sephibro (Guilty)
GiF > Sakura (Guilty)
Lincolm > Sakura (Innocent)
Nyquill > Lincolm (Innocent)
Sephibro Not Paranoid
Sakura Not Naive (Also not SK)
GiF Not Naive
Lincolm Not Paranoid
Nyquill Not Paranoid
Hold on. I'm writing down a reason right now.
oh wait facepalm.
if someone's lying is among the non-paranoids.
Interestingly enough, if Nyquill's SK he HAD to clear GiF because then it would become 1v1 between him and GiF
Sephi: Sakura Inno
Sakura: Sephi Guilty (Town)
GIF: Sakura Guilty
Lincolm: Sakura Inno
Nyquill: Lincolm Inno
If Nyquill claims guilty on someone: Nyquill is scum.
If Nyquill claims innocent: GIF clear.
Sephi: Sane/Naive
Sakura: Sane/Insane/Paranoid
GIF: Paranoid/Insane
Lincolm: Sane/Naive
Nyquill: Sane/Naive/Insane
If Nyquill is insane: Lincolm scum. Sakura Sane. Sephi Scum. GIF Paranoid. (Doesn't work)
So we're left with:
Sephi: Sane/Naive
Sakura: Sane/Insane/Paranoid
GIF: Paranoid/Insane
Lincolm: Sane/Naive
Nyquill: Sane/Naive
Because Sephi/Lincolm/Nyquill has a chance to be sane, Sakura can't be sane.
That leaves with:
Sephi: Sane/Naive
Sakura: Insane/Paranoid
GIF: Paranoid/Insane
Lincolm: Sane/Naive
Nyquill: Sane/Naive
Sakura/GIF confirmed.
Sakura: Sephi Guilty (Town)
GIF: Sakura Guilty
Lincolm: Sakura Inno
Nyquill: Lincolm Inno
If Nyquill claims guilty on someone: Nyquill is scum.
If Nyquill claims innocent: GIF clear.
Sephi: Sane/Naive
Sakura: Sane/Insane/Paranoid
GIF: Paranoid/Insane
Lincolm: Sane/Naive
Nyquill: Sane/Naive/Insane
If Nyquill is insane: Lincolm scum. Sakura Sane. Sephi Scum. GIF Paranoid. (Doesn't work)
So we're left with:
Sephi: Sane/Naive
Sakura: Sane/Insane/Paranoid
GIF: Paranoid/Insane
Lincolm: Sane/Naive
Nyquill: Sane/Naive
Because Sephi/Lincolm/Nyquill has a chance to be sane, Sakura can't be sane.
That leaves with:
Sephi: Sane/Naive
Sakura: Insane/Paranoid
GIF: Paranoid/Insane
Lincolm: Sane/Naive
Nyquill: Sane/Naive
Sakura/GIF confirmed.
Also, based on this report, Sephibro has the highest chance of being town among three Sane/Naive group.
All the assumptions are taken care of.
If Nyquill claims guilty on someone: Nyquill is scum.If you're talking about this line, you're thinking to hard because at this point, we already won.
If that happened, we already won at that point*
Sephi: Sakura Inno
Sakura: Sephi Guilty (Town)
GIF: Sakura Guilty
Lincolm: Sakura Inno
Nyquill: Lincolm Inno
If Nyquill claims guilty on someone: Nyquill is scum.
If Nyquill claims innocent: GIF clear.
Sephi: Sane/Naive/Insane
Sakura: Sane/Insane/Paranoid
GIF: Paranoid/Insane/Sane
Lincolm: Sane/Naive/Insane
Nyquill: Sane/Naive/Insane
If Sakura's scum then Lincolm and me are Insane or Naive, you're Paranoid and Nyquill is Sane
If Nyquill is insane: Lincolm scum. Sakura Sane. Sephi Scum. GIF Paranoid. (Doesn't work)
So we're left with:
Sephi: Sane/Naive
Sakura: Sane/Insane/Paranoid
GIF: Paranoid/Insane
Lincolm: Sane/Naive
Nyquill: Sane/Naive
Because Sephi/Lincolm/Nyquill has a chance to be sane, Sakura can't be sane.
That leaves with:
Sephi: Sane/Naive
Sakura: Insane/Paranoid
GIF: Paranoid/Insane
Lincolm: Sane/Naive
Nyquill: Sane/Naive
Sakura/GIF confirmed. Sakura is not confirmed.
Sakura: Sephi Guilty (Town)
GIF: Sakura Guilty
Lincolm: Sakura Inno
Nyquill: Lincolm Inno
If Nyquill claims guilty on someone: Nyquill is scum.
If Nyquill claims innocent: GIF clear.
Sephi: Sane/Naive/Insane
Sakura: Sane/Insane/Paranoid
GIF: Paranoid/Insane/Sane
Lincolm: Sane/Naive/Insane
Nyquill: Sane/Naive/Insane
If Sakura's scum then Lincolm and me are Insane or Naive, you're Paranoid and Nyquill is Sane
If Nyquill is insane: Lincolm scum. Sakura Sane. Sephi Scum. GIF Paranoid. (Doesn't work)
So we're left with:
Sephi: Sane/Naive
Sakura: Sane/Insane/Paranoid
GIF: Paranoid/Insane
Lincolm: Sane/Naive
Nyquill: Sane/Naive
Because Sephi/Lincolm/Nyquill has a chance to be sane, Sakura can't be sane.
That leaves with:
Sephi: Sane/Naive
Sakura: Insane/Paranoid
GIF: Paranoid/Insane
Lincolm: Sane/Naive
Nyquill: Sane/Naive
Sakura/GIF confirmed. Sakura is not confirmed.
Also why Nyquill should be lynched today:
1. Sephibro got guilty'd by Sakura, who is confirmed town and confirmed not sane. There's 50% chance that Sakura is insane, therefore he has a chance to be town.
2. Lincolm got inno'd by Nyquill, whose role is unknown. If Nyquill is SK, it basically clears Lincolm. Therefore, he has a chance to be town, albeit lower than Sephi's.
3. Nyquill, on other hand, have no chance of being town based on today's report. There IS a chance of Nyquill being town, but it's lower than Sephi's and Lincolm's, therefore highest chance of being scum.
1. Sephibro got guilty'd by Sakura, who is confirmed town and confirmed not sane. There's 50% chance that Sakura is insane, therefore he has a chance to be town.
2. Lincolm got inno'd by Nyquill, whose role is unknown. If Nyquill is SK, it basically clears Lincolm. Therefore, he has a chance to be town, albeit lower than Sephi's.
3. Nyquill, on other hand, have no chance of being town based on today's report. There IS a chance of Nyquill being town, but it's lower than Sephi's and Lincolm's, therefore highest chance of being scum.
Anyway, among Sephi, Lincolm and Nyquill we have 1 sane, 1 naive and 1 sk.
That's the thing. Otherwise
If Sephi is Insane, it doesnt work since im conf town.
If Lincolm is Insane, it doesnt work since im conf town.
Now what happens if Nyquill is Insane?
GiF would NEED to be Paranoid (since he cant be sane).
From that assumption then Sephibro is SK and Lincolm Naive.
But if Lincolm is town then how the heck is Nyquill Insane?
So yeah GiF's clear.
God my head X_X
That's the thing. Otherwise
If Sephi is Insane, it doesnt work since im conf town.
If Lincolm is Insane, it doesnt work since im conf town.
Now what happens if Nyquill is Insane?
GiF would NEED to be Paranoid (since he cant be sane).
From that assumption then Sephibro is SK and Lincolm Naive.
But if Lincolm is town then how the heck is Nyquill Insane?
So yeah GiF's clear.
God my head X_X
If I was sane and Sakura is scum, that means that Sephi is insane/naive, lincolm is insane/naive, and Nyquill is confirmed naive.
That means that Sephi's and Lincolm's role will conflict.
That means that Sephi's and Lincolm's role will conflict.
you see, the thing is, there's 2 innocents and 1 guilty on me.
If im scum
One Inno has to be Naive, Another Inno has to be Insane, And the guilty has to be Sane/Paranoid.
those 3 would be seph, gif, lincolm.
Then that means that Nyquill would be paranoid or Sane... but oh wait Nyquill got an inno!
If im scum
One Inno has to be Naive, Another Inno has to be Insane, And the guilty has to be Sane/Paranoid.
those 3 would be seph, gif, lincolm.
Then that means that Nyquill would be paranoid or Sane... but oh wait Nyquill got an inno!
Therefore, I can't be sane.
As I said, all the assumptions are taken care of.
oh wait, that's... awkward... argh my head
I'm working on a recap of what happened so far.
Sephi: Sakura Inno
Sakura: Sephi Guilty
GIF: Sakura Guilty
Lincolm: Sakura Inno
Nyquill: Lincolm Inno
If Sephi's SK
Sakura: Paranoid
GIF: Insane
Lincolm: Naive/Sane
Nyquill: Sane/Naive
If Sakura's SK
Sephi: Naive/Insane
GIF: Paranoid
Lincolm: Naive/Insane
Nyquill: Sane
If GIF's SK
Sephi: Naive/Sane
Sakura: Paranoid and Insane
Lincolm: Naive/Sane
Nyquill: -
thus GIF is confirmed
If Lincolm is SK
Sephi: Sane
Sakura: Paranoid/Insane
GiF: Paranoid/Insane
Nyquill: Naive
If Nyquill is SK
Sephi: Naive/Sane
Sakura: Paranoid/Insane
GiF: Paranoid/Insane
Lincolm: Naive/Sane
This is how you analyze properly - tell me if i made any mistake
Sakura: Sephi Guilty
GIF: Sakura Guilty
Lincolm: Sakura Inno
Nyquill: Lincolm Inno
If Sephi's SK
Sakura: Paranoid
GIF: Insane
Lincolm: Naive/Sane
Nyquill: Sane/Naive
If Sakura's SK
Sephi: Naive/Insane
GIF: Paranoid
Lincolm: Naive/Insane
Nyquill: Sane
If GIF's SK
Sephi: Naive/Sane
Sakura: Paranoid and Insane
Lincolm: Naive/Sane
Nyquill: -
thus GIF is confirmed
If Lincolm is SK
Sephi: Sane
Sakura: Paranoid/Insane
GiF: Paranoid/Insane
Nyquill: Naive
If Nyquill is SK
Sephi: Naive/Sane
Sakura: Paranoid/Insane
GiF: Paranoid/Insane
Lincolm: Naive/Sane
This is how you analyze properly - tell me if i made any mistake
Yeah I just realized. Hold on a sec.
But I still want Nyquill though. He still has the highest chance of flipping scum.
Order of possiblity of flipping town based on report : Sakura/Sephi > Lincolm > Nyquill
Outside of the logic/report stuff, my current scumpool is {Lincolm/Nyquill} so I still want Nyquill dead today.
Best case scenario for us now is that Nyquill is SK
Otherwise SK will 100% kill the Sane/Insane tonight :\
I was probably right that it wasn't good to share n0 info
Otherwise SK will 100% kill the Sane/Insane tonight :\
I was probably right that it wasn't good to share n0 info
I'm more familiar with dethy with n0 kill, so meh.
tbf I want to lynch today just because we have a mislynch.Sephibro wrote:
No. we NL today
ftr the SK isnt supposed to know the sanities, just alignments.
don't hammer NL yet - I'm making some more analysis and tell everybody what to do next night
If we're lynching based on probability of flipping scum, we're lynching Nyquill.
If we're lynching based on whose sanity is going to be most useless, we're lynching Lincolm.
If we're not lynching today, we still have to figure who to target.
If we're lynching based on whose sanity is going to be most useless, we're lynching Lincolm.
If we're not lynching today, we still have to figure who to target.
Then unvoteSephibro wrote:
don't hammer NL yet - I'm making some more analysis and tell everybody what to do next night
BTW, can I scumhunt in this setup?
you can do what you want, you're confirmed, just don't make me angry plsGuyInFreezer wrote:
BTW, can I scumhunt in this setup?
lol this sucks
If we're lynching based on probability of flipping scum, we're lynching Nyquill.
If we're lynching based on whose sanity is going to be most useless, we're lynching Lincolm.
If we're lynching based on dethy walkthrough, we're lynching Sakura, who got lone guilty.
And since we have one confirmed town, lynching today and not lynching today has a equal chance of us winning.
If we're lynching based on probability of flipping scum, we're lynching Nyquill.
If we're lynching based on whose sanity is going to be most useless, we're lynching Lincolm.
If we're lynching based on dethy walkthrough, we're lynching Sakura, who got lone guilty.
And since we have one confirmed town, lynching today and not lynching today has a equal chance of us winning.
lone guilty excluding the report of confirmed town*
Posting overall possibility for reference.
Sephi: Sane/Naive/insane
Sakura: Insane/Paranoid
GIF: Paranoid/Insane
Lincolm: Sane/Naive/insane
Nyquill: Sane/Naive
Sephi: Sane/Naive/insane
Sakura: Insane/Paranoid
GIF: Paranoid/Insane
Lincolm: Sane/Naive/insane
Nyquill: Sane/Naive
We're not voting until we fill this table:
If we NL today
- Nyquill -> Sakura
- Sephi ->
- Lincolm ->
- Me ->
-Sakura ->
If we lynch Sakura today:
- Sephi ->
- Nyquill ->
- Me ->
- Lincolm ->
If we lynch Sephi today (Insert Trollface here):
- Nyquill -> Sakura
- Me ->
- Lincolm ->
- Sakura ->
If we lynch Nyquill today
- Me ->
- Lincolm ->
- Sakura ->
- Sephi ->
If we lynch me today, y'all are dumb.
If we NL today
- Nyquill -> Sakura
- Sephi ->
- Lincolm ->
- Me ->
-Sakura ->
If we lynch Sakura today:
- Sephi ->
- Nyquill ->
- Me ->
- Lincolm ->
If we lynch Sephi today (Insert Trollface here):
- Nyquill -> Sakura
- Me ->
- Lincolm ->
- Sakura ->
If we lynch Nyquill today
- Me ->
- Lincolm ->
- Sakura ->
- Sephi ->
If we lynch me today, y'all are dumb.
Why's lynching lincolm not an option?
If any of y'all townread sephi, raise your hand.