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osu! World Cup 2013 - Discussion Thread

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Loctav


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Welcome to the osu! World Cup 2013.
Here you can discuss everything related to the worldwide osu! tournament.
Frostmourne
1st
silmarilen
2nd
Giralda
\o/ can't wait for this ~
rzkadi
get hype guys \o/
veniastcline
I'm so excited \:D/ Looking forward to this! :D
Soar
Here we go
Alarido
Good luck everyone :3 specially BRAZIL. . . . . . . . . . and Indonesia.

Maybe I could take part on OWC in 10 years owo .... just need an intensive, long-term massive training ><
Mikelicious
Yay finally o3o cant wait to watch all the matchs~
Cozzzy
Get hype /o/ gogo Team GB

Also, it's a while off, but where should I direct questions/discussion about osu!mania world cup #1?
PlasticSmoothie
Yaaaaaaay~
SujingXu815
:O This is exciting! Can't wait until the tournament starts. Wish I was good enough to participate.
Liiraye
EDIT: Nvm, question answered. So it's the first 32 teams that gets to enter? the 33rd won't get a chance to qualify? :/

We've got some issues being sorted here in Sweden so the registration might be postponed a bit...
Hello Skitty
Is this normal on a owc thread
dkun
Spamming this thread is a big no-no. You have been warned.
Alarido
Good luck with righteous equality for all countries :3 everyone is welcome at osu!

Kuron-Kun wrote:

Darksonic wrote:

Ok stop it already.
We agree ^^
fabriciorby
what
izzydemon
rip brasil
Glazbom
Ok.
cr1mmy
I think registration with form is stupid way, because anyone can create a team and how the fuck you will understand where is real country team?
Pizzicato
so who'll pick the maps this time
buny

Pizzicato wrote:

so who'll pick the maps this time
anyone but aqo
XPJ38

Pizzicato wrote:

so who'll pick the maps this time
see wiki
Reyvateil
Will there be a stream on twitch or something?
Shino
It is written that #1 will get winner trophy... so, is that "Real" trophy?
And if winner team is asia or other contury, does it come with international shipping?
Qplayer
Last year it was streamed on http://www.twitch.tv/osuworldcup

I'm hyped for the greatest championship in all of e-sports. It'll be nice to see the new default skin featured as looking at the old VODs hurts my eyes with the old 300s I haven't seen in so long :3
Wishy

cr1m wrote:

I think registration with form is stupid way, because anyone can create a team and how the fuck you will understand where is real country team?
Yeah I said the same but apparently there is some PM confirmation thing so if you create a fake team it's not gonna get in.

Pizzicato wrote:

so who'll pick the maps this time
BRASIL

Darksonic and me.
Lokovodo
Cannot emphasize the hype in me.

I just know Wishy and Darksonic will pick good maps, should be great to watch all the matches.

We also need to see if we can get professional Canadian Azer to commentate though it might be a bit hard to make that work since he will probably be playing for canada-land also GOGO canada-land!
Cyclohexane
I'm hyped too. I don't think we're going to stream everything this time around, though.

I will, once again, be leading the English commentary along with dkun. I really look forward to that, it's been a while since I've last done it.

What do you guys want from the commentary this year? I know last time we had a few awkward times and all, so I'd like to improve that. I will gather stats and trivia about players and maps and compare stuff from last year, but I may overlook things, so I'm really open for suggestions.

Don't ask me to sing, I won't.
Kanye West
GO BR

in fabrico kirby we believe!!!
Alarido

Shino wrote:

It is written that #1 will get winner trophy... so, is that "Real" trophy?
And if winner team is asia or other contury, does it come with international shipping?
If all punishments are real, the prizes too.
And international shipping seems not be so expensive as it were at medieval era or such ancient times. I feel peppy has such stored resources to face all the costs of bringing OWC to our real world, as such as songs we work here are real too. And if no...I dunno how it works, but I believe in our osu!creator and in his power. Let's go Pros and Gods/Goddess (lewa-chan) and win the best.
Kanye West
What. This is an online tournament for friendly competition. Not a multimillion dollar e-sport. The profile badge is a good enough trophy.
izzydemon

buny wrote:

Pizzicato wrote:

so who'll pick the maps this time
anyone but aqo
HoriKyoko
Can we watch this live? If yes, how?
Kurangceret

lucari386 wrote:

Can we watch this live? If yes, how?
They will going to stream the match on twitch.
Topic Starter
Loctav
We plan to hand out real existing trophies. No final confirmation, yet - so still uncertain.
Kert
a single timezone for the whole team is totally not cool
I would giggle if some of our players will have to play at 4 night or so
silmarilen

Mr Color wrote:

I'm hyped too. I don't think we're going to stream everything this time around, though.

I will, once again, be leading the English commentary along with dkun. I really look forward to that, it's been a while since I've last done it.

What do you guys want from the commentary this year? I know last time we had a few awkward times and all, so I'd like to improve that. I will gather stats and trivia about players and maps and compare stuff from last year, but I may overlook things, so I'm really open for suggestions.

Don't ask me to sing, I won't.
can you sing for us please?

not really about the commentary but more about the stream in general. can we please get people with good internet connections to stream this time? so we will be able to see more than 8 pixels.

you should also do something like having the commentators watch an inside stream, where they can comment in realtime and then re-stream that to the final stream where everybody watches, so we wont have commenting about something that happened 30 seconds in the past.
Cyclohexane

Kanye West wrote:

What. This is an online tournament for friendly competition. Not a multimillion dollar e-sport. The profile badge is a good enough trophy.
shut up and enjoy seeing that delicious golden circle go to the winners



it better be a golden circle
or a golden cookie

@Silm: This year we at least shouldn't have any lag ON OUR SIDE (hello Twitch) because we've got people that can stream with steady upload. Also, commentary will not be delayed like last year, either. Commentators will see the matches live.
silmarilen
alright, good to hear.
Topic Starter
Loctav

Kert wrote:

a single timezone for the whole team is totally not cool
I would giggle if some of our players will have to play at 4 night or so

If you have multiple time zones, just let me know via forum PM
AmaiHachimitsu
No drama this year, perhaps???
GTX
期待
Mikelicious

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

No drama this year, perhaps???
There is always drama, just wait for it.
Damara-Chan
GO!! INDONESIA!!! Aiming to be victory tehehehehe ^_^
KRZY

Loctav wrote:

We plan to hand out real existing trophies. No final confirmation, yet - so still uncertain.
damn

shame we didn't have that last time ;_;
Alarido
About Timezones: Just a few countries - namely Russia, China and NAFTA - may have such timezone issues - easily defeatable/supportable with goodwill (like olympic athlets who face several restrictions, like food limitation and intensive trainings for winning their trophies and medals). Love solves all - or almost all.


Damara-Chan wrote:

GO!! INDONESIA!!! Aiming to be victory tehehehehe ^_^
*.* yes, but for my dear AnreFM~ and for Niva (no matter they are part of OWC this year or no), my favorite player (besides lewa-chan)... In truth, longing for a final match Brazil x Indonesia (please don't start flooding, guys!)
Vmx
Still have my signature from last year woop
Azer
Canada's in.
Hernan
We're winning
donjuan_217
hola el torneo que se va a llevar a cabo es de ¿ OSU Catch the Beat ?



hello the tournament to be carried out is ¿ OSU Catch the Beat ?
khalifa father
i have register the bahrain team, i hope it is accept
ErunamoJAZZ

donjuan_217 wrote:

hola el torneo que se va a llevar a cabo es de ¿ OSU Catch the Beat ?



hello the tournament to be carried out is ¿ OSU Catch the Beat ?
Nope, only Standard.

EDIT: For more info, read here
Metro

khalifa father wrote:

i have register the bahrain team, i hope it is accept
friendok <3
Avner

Alarido wrote:

About Timezones: Just a few countries - namely Russia, China and NAFTA - may have such timezone issues - easily defeatable/supportable with goodwill (like olympic athlets who face several restrictions, like food limitation and intensive trainings for winning their trophies and medals). Love solves all - or almost all.


Damara-Chan wrote:

GO!! INDONESIA!!! Aiming to be victory tehehehehe ^_^
*.* yes, but for my dear AnreFM~ and for Niva, my favorite player (besides lewa-chan)... In truth, longing for a final match Brazil x Indonesia (please don't start flooding, guys!)
Niva won't be participating :)
buny
pls open #cow

also since team leaders aren't scheduling times, are you going to try to make it so that the times would work, or are you expecting us to have 4 people on at any given time?
darkmiz
Why is flashlight allowed in free mod
Thatgooey

darkmiz wrote:

Why is flashlight allowed in free mod
Pls no... oh god no...
Frostmourne

Metro wrote:

khalifa father wrote:

i have register the bahrain team, i hope it is accept
friendok <3
Team Bahrain
Captain : friendok
Player1 : friendok1
Player2 : friendok2
Player3 : friendok3

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

No drama this year, perhaps???
wouldn't be osu! without drama
akupp

cr1m wrote:

I think registration with form is stupid way, because anyone can create a team and how the fuck you will understand where is real country team?
Are there any "procedure" for not letting this kind happen, because some random guy can easily say he is the one who representing the country. Even people who ranked #60,000+ claim that he will become captain for Malaysia country to join this. No joke.
dato93
Why I cant see Japan and Corea teams?
Lach

dato93 wrote:

Why I cant see Japan and Corea teams?
Because they haven't sent in a form and pmed Loctav yet?
Topic Starter
Loctav

buny wrote:

pls open #cow

also since team leaders aren't scheduling times, are you going to try to make it so that the times would work, or are you expecting us to have 4 people on at any given time?
http://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Osu_World_Cup_2013#Ruleset
Scheduling instructions

akupp wrote:

cr1m wrote:

I think registration with form is stupid way, because anyone can create a team and how the fuck you will understand where is real country team?
Are there any "procedure" for not letting this kind happen, because some random guy can easily say he is the one who representing the country. Even people who ranked #60,000+ claim that he will become captain for Malaysia country to join this. No joke.
Just trust me. Worked wonders so far

darkmiz wrote:

Why is flashlight allowed in free mod
Because its freemod. Nothing wrong here.
pielak213
why isnt easy in freemod
Azer
Why isn't auto in free mod?
pielak213
easy can actually make scores higher if you can't read the map well and is actually selectable if freemod is on
Lach
The kind of maps where EZ scores can be higher than nomod/mod scores are too hard for tournaments to begin with.
pielak213
The reason we didn't have hard maps in the last owc is because failing would make it so your score won't count. The rules clearly states that failing won't do that this tournament.

There was recently a "suggest a map" poll to help determine the maps for owc. There was a line somewhere that said "all suggestions will be considered". I would be extremely surprised if everyone didn't choose the hardest maps they know to watch the best players of each country face off in the hardest maps average players can think of.
buny
didn't really answer my question but thanks.
Wishy
We are not gonna go and pick BB and 4D if that's what you guys are thinking.
Topic Starter
Loctav

pielak213 wrote:

The reason we didn't have hard maps in the last owc is because failing would make it so your score won't count. The rules clearly states that failing won't do that this tournament.

There was recently a "suggest a map" poll to help determine the maps for owc. There was a line somewhere that said "all suggestions will be considered". I would be extremely surprised if everyone didn't choose the hardest maps they know to watch the best players of each country face off in the hardest maps average players can think of.
1.) You need to revive and survive to make your score count. This has been the same on last OWC, too.
2.) Considered doesn't mean picked. Many people picked THE BIG BLACK, even if it's like a huge NO for OWC. Just because it has been suggested 100 times, it doesn't rise it's chances.
3.) We have two dedicates and experienced map selectors doing a good job. Trust them.
4.) Hard is relative. Please keep in mind that details determine a winner. Not the ones being able to play clusterpoop.
pielak213

Wishy wrote:

We are not gonna go and pick BB and 4D if that's what you guys are thinking.
Will there be a lot of ar9 dts?
AmaiHachimitsu
The reason we didn't have hard maps in the last owc is because failing would make it so your score won't count. The rules clearly states that failing won't do that this tournament.

There was recently a "suggest a map" poll to help determine the maps for owc. There was a line somewhere that said "all suggestions will be considered". I would be extremely surprised if everyone didn't choose the hardest maps they know to watch the best players of each country face off in the hardest maps average players can think of.
I expect maps to be harder than those last year, but still no big blacks and similar. EVEN IF there was some extremely hard map in pool, noone would possibly even CONSIDER playing it with EZ. Also as Loctav said, Hard is relative. It surprises me that an experienced player as you think that playing those EXTREMES is the way to see who is better. Remember this is a rhythm game, not tetris where you need only speed and aim. the best player should be able to play various maps, not only 250 bpm long streams and square jumps.

Not to mention that players don't simply make a good combo in every try on an very hard map. During OWC we'll have one chance and all that under massive pressure, so simple luck would be essential for a team to win. I think luck shouldn't be the most important factor which decides who wins.
Pizzicato

pielak213 wrote:

Wishy wrote:

We are not gonna go and pick BB and 4D if that's what you guys are thinking.
Will there be a lot of ar9 dts?
oh shit pls no
Cyclohexane
Actually, there's only going to be AR8-7 Insanes rotating around 140-160bpm. I've seen to it.




there's gonna be all sorts of maps now, we had a suggestion pool of over 500 maps if I recall correctly.

Maybe more.
yurunneram
Watching the live stream of OWC3 was the first time my sis thought that Osu! was cool :3 I really hope to see more amazing maps played this year ^^

Also love to support my own country OwO)/

Also putting BB there would be near ridiculous
buny

Mr Color wrote:

Actually, there's only going to be AR8-7 Insanes rotating around 140-160bpm. I've seen to it.




there's gonna be all sorts of maps now, we had a suggestion pool of over 500 maps if I recall correctly.

Maybe more.
no love for 100-140

would love the map pool to have a higher difficulty to it, i mean last year was really who could random miss the most to be honest.
Metro
Error that shouldn't happen this year: in groupstage match order should be

1v4 & 2v3
1v3 & 2v4
1v2 & 3v4

Last year the last groupstage match was useless in many groups. Top seeds (1&2) should decide who gets 1st place in the last match (assuming they both win their first two matches).
jesse1412

darkmiz wrote:

Why is flashlight allowed in free mod
Easy mod shouldn't be excluded, what makes 1 mod worse then the others? Alternatively ban FL and easymod.
pooptartsonas
Where's the love for NoFail?
izzydemon
why does this make me laugh so much
Topic Starter
Loctav

Mr Color wrote:

Maybe more.
1558 to be more precise.
silmarilen

buny wrote:

Mr Color wrote:

Actually, there's only going to be AR8-7 Insanes rotating around 140-160bpm. I've seen to it.




there's gonna be all sorts of maps now, we had a suggestion pool of over 500 maps if I recall correctly.

Maybe more.
no love for 100-140

would love the map pool to have a higher difficulty to it, i mean last year was really who could random miss the most to be honest.
all i remember was people saying the maps were too hard in the first round
AmaiHachimitsu
all i remember was people saying the maps were too hard in the first round
I think they were easy, too easy. first round is the worst since most of teams can FC maps from the pool easily and random misses might decide that Madagascar wins over Korea. Starting from high level of difficulty, i.e maps which really need some "more" than just basic osu! skills would be better IMO.

Not saying this because I'm a member of (probably) seeded team. (we won't make it to top 16 anyway /me runs)
slithien

Niokin wrote:

why does this make me laugh so much
omg, I'm friends with that guy xD
-GN
so... uh, what's stopping the dualscreeners to put on FL on their freemod map plays during the great matches and rack up the points needed to win? it'd seriously be better to not allow it, as no one is going to put in the massive effort it is to learn the maps well enough to consistently fc them under the massive pressure, or at least not do a legit run.
Metro

Metro wrote:

Error that shouldn't happen this year: in groupstage match order should be

1v4 & 2v3
1v3 & 2v4
1v2 & 3v4

Last year the last groupstage match was useless in many groups. Top seeds (1&2) should decide who gets 1st place in the last match (assuming they both win their first two matches).
Maybe the first two matches can be swapped. I thought the first seed should get an easy match first but that makes a harder match in the first round for the second seed which is "unfair". But the last match must be 1v2 & 3v4.
-Ryuujii-

Xplayer1 wrote:

Last year it was streamed on http://www.twitch.tv/osuworldcup

I'm hyped for the greatest championship in all of e-sports. It'll be nice to see the new default skin featured as looking at the old VODs hurts my eyes with the old 300s I haven't seen in so long :3
what
buny

silmarilen wrote:

all i remember was people saying the maps were too hard in the first round
i remember no such thing
fartownik

-GN wrote:

so... uh, what's stopping the dualscreeners to put on FL on their freemod map plays during the great matches and rack up the points needed to win?

Nothing.

-GN wrote:

It'd seriously be better to not allow it, as no one is going to put in the massive effort it is to learn the maps well enough to consistently fc them under the massive pressure, or at least not do a legit run.

My heart is for this all the way.
Topic Starter
Loctav
Wouldn't it be quite obvious? :P
Luna
So you're allowing FL on the premise that anybody who actually uses it and FCs stuff is clearly cheating?
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