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fartownik
If she's got Satoshi's bat... hm... who might she be?
Sakura

fartownik wrote:

If she's got Satoshi's bat... hm... who might she be?
DUN DUN DUN
Sephibro
unvote, vote: Sakura

Satoshi might be an innocent Hinamizawan, but the way you're playing is all but town friendly
rEdo
not sure if trying to fakeclaim, or... oh well

Unvote

you'll prove yourself soon.
Sakura

rEdo wrote:

not sure if trying to fakeclaim, or... oh well

Unvote

you'll prove yourself soon.
I'll prove myself when the time comes, my day/night action (it can be used any phase) can only be activated until a certain something happens, also my HS level can't go down which is why i asked Seph to not bother using his ability on me, it's a drawback for a powerful "kill on any phase" ability.
Sephibro
unvote, vote BRBP

ping pong votes
Irreversible
sephi ? lol >.<
Irreversible
Reasons for your ping pong vote?
Sephibro
re-read from p/2624786
Irreversible
Well, what's Satoshis bat? is that an ability.. or how.
Sephibro
Sakura just claimed to be Satoshi, and explained her abilities
possible spoilers of the anime inside

This is Satoshi's bat. If I'm not wrong, in the anime Satoshi uses it to kill her aunt, who abuses him and his sister Hojou Satoko, when he reaches a notably high HS level
Irreversible
hm so if names can relate to ability, the aunt might reach the brothers and sisters hs?
Rantai
Sorry for the late reply.

@pieguy - Look at your iso, 12/18 posts are about NH in some fashion (not including confirmation posts). Actually reading through, why did you vote Sakura after townreading her? If it's an injoke then w/e

The fact it's tunneling is indicative of very little. But the fact it's based on something as weak as meta makes it something else completely. If you had actually based it on something solid then I wouldn't be so uncomfortable with it.

You could say the combination is what irks me, the total is greater than the sum of its parts.

What's the significance of Satoshi's bat? (no seriously, I forgot)
Rantai
To clarify I get what she claimed but where did it fit in the anime out of curiosity?
GuyInFreezer
I would unvote sakura if I knew who satoshi was.
(In fact, the flavor in general)
Sakura
for clarification I didnt claim Satoshi, I just claimed that I use Satoshi's bat to kill. But if you wanna know who I am I am Keichi Maebara.

@GiF: You're better off reading about it in wikipedia (or watching the anime, it's a pretty good one)
Sephibro
there's one thing that worries me: Blue Yoshi posted on his mafia QT the 10th October, while his last post on this game was the 6th October

Also Rantai why don't you read every post?
fartownik

Sephibro wrote:

there's one thing that worries me: Blue Yoshi posted on his mafia QT the 10th October
Excuse me?
Sephibro
Rantai

Sephibro wrote:

Also Rantai why don't you read every post?
I'm actively ignoring your stupidity.

The rest is either already been addressed to my satisfaction or I have nothing to actually contribute to.
Rantai
has*
GuyInFreezer
Unvote: Sakura
Vote: Irreversible
Sephibro
you've not read many posts, and not only mine

vote Rantai
GuyInFreezer
not reading != scum

Is that the only reason you're voting Rantai for?
Sephibro
nope
Topic Starter
Amianki
Vote Count 1.07

The kitchen wall is never a good place to store evidence.

[3] BRBP -- fartownik, Sakura, Irreversible (L-4)
[2] Sephibro -- NoHitter, DakeDekaane
[1] NoHitter -- pieguy1372
[1] pieguy1372 -- Rantai
[1] Sakura -- BRBP
[1] Irreversible -- GuyInFreezer
[1] Rantai -- Sephibro

[0] GuyInFreezer --
[0] DakeDekaane --
[0] fartownik --
[0] rEdo --
[0] Zexion --
[1] No Lynch -- Zexion

Not Voting -- rEdo
Deadline is at 10:30 AM CST (GMT-6) on 10/19.

NoHitter is V/LA until Oct. 17.
Searching for a replacement for Zexion.
Rantai

Sephibro wrote:

you've not read many posts, and not only mine

vote Rantai
So, would you like to back up this next piece of failure with some proof?

Bear in mind that if you're thinking about people answering my questions and me not responding, that means:

already been addressed to my satisfaction
Try again though.
Irreversible
Could you explain why, GIF?

Will Blue Yoshi be replaced sometime? Because if sephi is right.. well 8 days are quite much to be inactive here
GuyInFreezer

Irreversible wrote:

Could you explain why, GIF?

Will Blue Yoshi be replaced sometime? Because if sephi is right.. well 8 days are quite much to be inactive here
Try to guess.

And if you haven't noticed, I replaced Blue Yoshi. Gotta learn to not miss the reading someday :P
Irreversible
OMG lol sorry ;w;
Irreversible
I guess because I was not included in Sakuras reaction test?
Sephibro
yo anyone
DakeDekaane
Are you done playing ping pong?

Can we lynch Sephibro?
GuyInFreezer
Why do you want to lynch claimed doctor again?
GuyInFreezer
@Irre
Why would anyone scumread anyone with that reason ever?

Also I really hope zexion slot isn't Mion.
Sephibro
the only ones who haven't posted since you asked Mion to claim are NH (V/LA), pieguy (who posted on greatest idea mafia and saki mafia in the meantime) and BRBP (who looks like not to give a fuck of this game). I assume that Mion is among these 3, or could be Zexion too, but he posted twice since you asked so i don't think so

FoS: DD again

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Why do you want to lynch claimed doctor again?
^
btw it's not properly doctor, I hope there's another doctor-like role (i.e. Irie Kyousuke) or I'll be dead on N1
Irreversible

GuyInFreezer wrote:

@Irre
Why would anyone scumread anyone with that reason ever?

Maybe you also make a reaction test like her? Well, I'd really like to know that reason.
NoHitter
So I found an old monitor in the attic. 800x600 and not sure how long this will work...

So we have a claimed Doctor-like role, and Unlyncher. And a claimed character.

Unvote

pieguy1372 wrote:

are you implying actions determine intent? cause it's the other way around, intent determines actions
*sigh* You've been saying that I don't have any "town intent" at all, yet you're not saying what specifically I've done to cause your read. It's like accusing someone of being scum with the reason being "You don't look town". Or is this one of your gut feelings exponentially multiplied -_-

rEdo wrote:

four last posts looked like you were defending from pieguy too much about that case, which irks me a lot.
Well it isn't helping that pieguy is tunneling me hard for some reason.

Also Sakura, nice bat. Though why did you claim your character role?
Sakura

NoHitter wrote:

Also Sakura, nice bat. Though why did you claim your character role?
Scum dont have a NK and my HS cant be lowered so might as well, there are other hidden reasons but they need to be hidden for the time being.
pieguyn
blatant prod dodge
real post coming tonight
Rantai

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Why do you want to lynch claimed doctor again?
@DD - basically that. As dumb as he is I am highly doubtful he is mafia at this stage unless some new information emerges.
DakeDekaane
Ok.
Unvote

Target me this night Sephibro, if you don't do it, you're scum in my eyes, I'm willing to trust you today, even if you're playing in a bad way.

Keeping an eye on pieguy and NH.
GuyInFreezer
Are you mion?
Sephibro

DakeDekaane wrote:

Target me this night Sephibro, if you don't do it, you're scum in my eyes, I'm willing to trust you today, even if you're playing in a bad way.
inb4 scum with pgo-like passive
pieguyn
okay fuck it, after reading again I've done a complete 180 on NH. I think I'm just forcing a scumread on him at this point. but srsly if he's mafia I'm flipping a table over unvote

Town: Sakura, Irre, GIF, Sephi
Null-town: NH, fartownik, BRBP

that leaves Rantai, rEdo, Zexion, Dake

Sephibro's wagon still gives me all sorts of weird vibes :?

Zexion wrote:

My vote was random but after a read throughout the thread I can tell that Sephibro is so far just acussing with reasons I couldn't explain myself, I mean really, did Raging Bull ask to be replaced just because he was mafia and couldn't read the QT?
this post is really weird for me. = = it just seems like an excuse for joining the wagon and not a genuine reason.

Zexion wrote:

I believe Sakura is just making reaction tests. Pressure is put upon you when you are voted and often people say something they shouldn't have to. Anyways, seems like a good investigation. Pretty obvious Sephibro is scum, he just contradicted himself way too many times. And his reasons are just... meh.
and then this one seems like he's trying to prolong the wagon longer than it needs to be.

I don't get the impression from his posts that he cares about anyone besides Sephi, nor is trying to scumhunt elsewhere. and he came in near the end of the wagon..

DakeDekaane wrote:

Oops, my bad. I'm too used to dd/mm. But omg the 19.

Unvote
Vote: Sephibro


I have a stronger scum read on him and I'm still sticking with it.

inb4 Dake is scum.
so nothing's happened from the start of the game to here that's given you a stronger scumread on anyone?

Rantai wrote:

DD's one was the strangest of the 5, I understand a NL is bad but did you even have any reasons to vote him other than "oh he's got a wagon"?
I don't like this train of thought - seems like he wants to put suspicion on someone just for jumping on a wagon, when such a thing really isn't always bad. and yes I still say there are situations where it's good to just jump on a wagon.

DakeDekaane wrote:

I'm ok with a policy lynch on BRBP, BUT Sephibro doesn't like them, what to do?
I don't like how he's talking about already agreeing on a lynch here, we've still got like 4 days till the deadline and at the time of this post there were 7 days. mb it's just me, but it seems like he's kind of eager to put a mislynch...

DakeDekaane wrote:

pieguy actually doesn't look so town after voting BRBP when he thinks he's town, what did you expect to get from his lynch?
I never wanted to lynch BRBP. I just wanted to add pressure to confirm or deny my townread on him. he passed so I removed the vote.

rEdo wrote:

oh well, let's see how THIS works.

Vote: Sakura
do you have anything else to say besides your funny "reaction tests" and blatantly tagging to the wagons with the most people on them?
literally, not sure if this post makes me lean town or not. =.=//

Rantai wrote:

The fact it's tunneling is indicative of very little. But the fact it's based on something as weak as meta makes it something else completely. If you had actually based it on something solid then I wouldn't be so uncomfortable with it.
oh great not the meta debate again. you're not going to change my position that meta is valid :>

Rantai wrote:

Try again though.
this seems like a really defensive reaction. not sure if it's alignment indicative or not

Sephibro wrote:

inb4 scum with pgo-like passive
huh, mb someone that increases HS level of anyone who targets it? similar to your ability

after one pass, I didn't notice anything of rEdo's besides that one post. so if there's 3 mafia I'd guess Rantai x Dake x Zexion.

no point in voting Zexion till someone replaces him. so vote: DakeDekaane
Sephibro
so, looks like nor NH nor pieguy are Mion..the only candidate is BRBP at this point, or Zexion if he didn't read before posting, but he looks more like scum than Mion
It could be a good idea to lynch Zexion too if no replacement is found until deadline

at this point, scum are among NH Rantai farto DD for me
unvote, vote DakeDekaane
Sephibro
oh one thing that bothers me is that there's never been enough pressure on rEdo, and he's talked very little so far
Sephibro

Sephibro wrote:

at this point, scum are among NH Rantai farto DD for me
ebwop: forgot Zexion
GuyInFreezer
But srsly
I still don't get why Mion hasn't claimed yet.
Sephibro
@mod: prod BRBP

^ probably because it's him, he's the only one who has not posted since when you asked
fartownik
I'm Mion.

Also Sephibro calls me scum again without explanation. And he still hasn't answered me when I asked about it before.
VoidnOwO
:)
DakeDekaane
Uh, I'm being voted :p

Vote: pieguy
GuyInFreezer
lordy
I was gonna post my reads but there's only three townreads.
Rantai

pieguy1372 wrote:

I don't like this train of thought - seems like he wants to put suspicion on someone just for jumping on a wagon, when such a thing really isn't always bad. and yes I still say there are situations where it's good to just jump on a wagon.

I'm not debating whether or not a wagon jump is good (I have no opinion on it). I'm more concerned about reason behind the vote. As it stands I have never liked people using crappy or no reasons to vote because that means they can simply vote the flavour of the hour and fly under the radar if not scrutinised. Even "pressure" is something I guess, but in his case it was simply because "he had a wagon" which is simply nothing.

Of course after I asked him about it (please note this is after the fact), he provided a so-so reason which doesn't reek of scum so I let it go (though saying "pieguy brought up good points" has me thinking again, now that you mention it, I'll have to dwell on it a bit).

I'll be watching in the future for any double standards you make, however.



oh great not the meta debate again. you're not going to change my position that meta is valid :>

I still believe meta is weak at best. We're going to have to meet half way here.

this seems like a really defensive reaction. not sure if it's alignment indicative or not

I'm being condescending towards him for good reason. What reason? His plans are dumb and he refuses to listen to reason.
Sephibro

fartownik wrote:

Also Sephibro calls me scum again without explanation
It's not that hard to understand, i got there for elimination, since this was the situation before:

me: Furude Rika, almost-Doctor
GIF: Sonozaki Oryou, Unlyncher
Sakura: Maebara Keiichi, d/n vig or third party serial killer? Let's say town for now
pieguy: null-town
BRBP, Irre, rEdo: null
NH, farto, Rantai, Zexion, DD: null-scum

This is the situation now

me: Furude Rika, almost-Doctor
GIF: Sonozaki Oryou, Unlyncher
Sakura: Maebara Keiichi, d/n vig or third party serial killer? Let's say town for now
farto: Sonozaki Mion
pieguy: null-town
BRBP, Irre, rEdo: null
NH, Rantai, Zexion, DD: null-scum

If GIF and farto are town (or survivor) we're making up a kinda strong townbloc

CalignoBot wrote:

Be careful of needles in your ohagi.
I think this could have something to do with game later, but I'm not telling more, who knows flavor maybe understood what I mean
GuyInFreezer
Zexion
Let's do this then. Save mod some trouble.
GuyInFreezer
Vote: Zexion
Sakura

Sephibro wrote:

CalignoBot wrote:

Be careful of needles in your ohagi.
I think this could have something to do with game later, but I'm not telling more, who knows flavor maybe understood what I mean
Inb4 it's meant to scare me.
Sephibro

Sakura wrote:

Inb4 it's meant to scare me.
It isn't, and from your answer i guess my conjecture was wrong, so nvm it
And why would I be cocky towards someone who I'm now reading town?

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Zexion
Let's do this then. Save mod some trouble.
We still have 4 days, there's no need to hurry, we can still lynch him at the very end of the day
I think we should use this last time we have to gather some other information
GuyInFreezer
Never delay lynch until the very next day. You want to form wagons and think of back-up wagon generally 2~3 days prior to deadline so when the initial wagon claims good pr or something we can resort to backup wagon.
GuyInFreezer
until the very last day of deadline*
GuyInFreezer
Everyone do this in their next post.

Not lynching
GuyInFreezer
Sephibro
pieguy
Irre
Fartonik
Sakura

Ok with lynching
Dake
NH
Rentai
rEdo

Willing to lynch
Zexion
BRBP
Sephibro
the fact is zexion won't claim, because he's not even playing anymore, and one reason for his lynch is the inactivity itself - so the plain is waiting until the last day hoping for a replacement, or lynch
I think that if a replacement is found, there are better choices for a lynch, i.e. DD
GuyInFreezer
I had DD as town initially and tbh I think he's just being dumb.
Irreversible
Guy, what do you exactly mean ? Like which ones I would lynch and which ones not?
Sephibro
Not lynching
GIF
Sephibro
pieguy
farto
Sakura

Ok with lynching
BRBP
Irre
rEdo
NH
Zexion (if replacement is found)


Willing to lynch
DD
Rantai
Zexion (if no replacement is found)
Sephibro

Irreversible wrote:

Guy, what do you exactly mean ? Like which ones I would lynch and which ones not?
Not Lynching = i'm not gonna wagon
Ok with lynching = i will wagon if needed
Willing to lynch = people i want to vote
GuyInFreezer

Sephibro wrote:

Irreversible wrote:

Guy, what do you exactly mean ? Like which ones I would lynch and which ones not?
Not Lynching = i'm not gonna wagon
Ok with lynching = i will wagon if needed
Willing to lynch = people i want to vote
Close.

Not Lynching = If you're ever thinking about lynching these people, YOU'RE GONNA FIGHT ME FIRST! OVER MY DEAD BODY
Ok with lynching = I'll only lynch them only if I get too lazy or I get tired.
Willing to lynch = DIEDIEDIEDIEDIE
pieguyn
Not lynching: NH, fartownik, BRBP, Sakura, Sephi, Irre, GIF
ok with lynching: Rantai, rEdo
want to lynch: Zexion, Dake

@Dake: why the vote ;w;

@Rantai: what kind of double standards have I made so far?
Sakura
Not Lynching:
NoHitter
GuyInFreezer
Sephibro
fartownik
Irreversible

Ok with Lynching:
Anyone that doesnt fit in the others

Willing to Lynch:
DakeDekaane
BRBP
fartownik
Not lynching: Rantai, Sakura, GuyInFreezer, Irreversible, Zexion (for now), DakeDekaane
Willing to lynch: BRBP, Sephibro,
Ok with lynching: rEdo, NH, pieguy
fartownik

Sephibro wrote:

fartownik wrote:

Also Sephibro calls me scum again without explanation
It's not that hard to understand, i got there for elimination, since this was the situation before:
Also share your elimination process then.
Sephibro

fartownik wrote:

Also share your elimination process then.
keep reading that post
Rantai
Not lynching
GuyInFreezer
Sephibro
Fartonik
Sakura

Ok with lynching
Irre
Dake
NH
rEdo
BRBP
Zexion

Willing to lynch
pieguy

@pieguy - future
fartownik

Sephibro wrote:

fartownik wrote:

Also share your elimination process then.
keep reading that post
I want to know why you DID see me as scum, not how it's at the moment. Because you still hadn't answered that.
Irreversible
Not Lynching
Pieguy
farto
Sakura
Sephibro
GuyInFreezer

Ok with Lynching

DakeDekaane
reDo
Rantai
NoHitter


Willing to Lynch

BRBP
Zexion
pieguyn

Rantai wrote:

@pieguy - future
I know you said future. I was wondering where you got the idea I'd have a double standard. if I hadn't had one before, this seems like a really weird idea to just suddenly have. o.o

also way to go listing just me under "want to lynch" when you say it's suspicious when I tunneled NH. even if it's not explicitly the tunneling that was suspicious =A=

fartownik wrote:

Ok with lynching: rEdo, NH, pieguy
where'd you change your townread on me? ;w;
VoidnOwO
:)
GuyInFreezer

BRBP wrote:

By this instead of GIF's explanation, otherwise I'd just have everything empty.
Where's your mafia spirit, m8?
GuyInFreezer

BRBP wrote:

Willing to lynch
Irre for being too Irre once again
ew
Sephibro
I don't really know what a double standard is. From your posts, i guess it is building a case from RVS related posts, isn't it?

@farto: pls stahp
@BRBP: pls hurry we have 3 days left
rEdo
sorry, Portal has drained (and probably still will) my life away x.x

Not lynching
pieguy - seems town as yet
NoHitter - nitpicked me on FoSing twice, and that's a rather town behaviour
fartownik - town for hunting scum as actively as he usually does
Sephibro - already mentioned before
Rantai - need some more content, but he looks town as yet
Sakura - claimed

Fine with lynching
BRBP - rather town-null, but if it's necessary to lynch, I'll join in.
DD - should read his ISO anytime soon, wasn't paying him much attention as yet
Zexion - not too active, asked for a replacement
GuyInFreezer - I don't think he's said anymore more but that he must survive with Mion. also I completely dislike how he suggested lynching Zexion just to "save mod the trouble".

Willing to lynch
Irreversible - same reason as GIF
rEdo

rEdo wrote:

Willing to lynch
Irreversible - same reason as GIF
I mean, it's pretty much the way that Irreversible plays, so... yeah.
Sakura

rEdo wrote:

rEdo wrote:

Willing to lynch
Irreversible - same reason as GIF
I mean, it's pretty much the way that Irreversible plays, so... yeah.
Unvote
Vote: rEdo


I guess I can add rEdo to the list of Willing to lynch now.
GuyInFreezer

rEdo wrote:

GuyInFreezer - I don't think he's said anymore more but that he must survive with Mion. also I completely dislike how he suggested lynching Zexion just to "save mod the trouble".
In case you forgot, I'm a third party. Which means I don't necessarily have to do stuff in town way! (Even though I am helping town right now.)
rEdo

Sakura wrote:

I mean, it's pretty much the way that Irreversible plays, so... yeah.
Unvote
Vote: rEdo


I guess I can add rEdo to the list of Willing to lynch now.[/quote]
any deeper reasoning behind that? I just don't like the fact that most of Irreversible's content is silly, even more than usual, as if he was actually trying to cover up a possibility of him being scum.

since I'm talking with you, I'll just mention that a mafia vigilante is also a possibility ;­)
GuyInFreezer
Mafia vig is OP in 12p setup, btw ;)
rEdo
oh god, the formatting screwed up >.< I'm obviously not voting for myself here
rEdo

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Mafia vig is OP in 12p setup, btw ;)
mafia doesn't have a nightkill, so this bat that Sakura has could make up for it
GuyInFreezer
They do have a nightkill.
fartownik

Sephibro wrote:

@farto: pls stahp
What's your goddamn problem? Can't you answer the question correctly?
GuyInFreezer
Mafia have a special nightkill and the part that they being able to increase multiple people's HS at night worries me.
GuyInFreezer
also farto while you're here, is there any reason why you asked for "Mion" to claim?
rEdo

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Mafia have a special nightkill and the part that they being able to increase multiple people's HS at night worries me.
so you basically just confirmed my theory of somebody having a special nightkill (for example Sakura), or what? I don't remember anybody mentioning anything about the special nightkill before.
fartownik
I wanted to give myself a little while to think it off mostly. Also didn't trust you 100% and wanted to check how will people react to the missing character, thought something helpful might came up.
fartownik
the English is broken, too tired to write
Sakura
day/night kill but I can't use it yet.

Also i found it funny that you're suspecting me just because I'm voting you but since you're asking I'll break it up to you.

You're voting Irre for being Irre, which is a playstyle-tell at most, and in most games he's been mislynched as town for playing like that, which means that he's most likely town this game as well, I'd imagine scum-Irre would be a little more careful with how he plays, yet he's in your willing to lynch list, and... you got no one else there. And can you remind me of who are you voting now?... certainly not Irre.
Sephibro

GuyInFreezer wrote:

also farto while you're here, is there any reason why you asked for "Mion" to claim?
i personally see it as a town behaviour, if somebody else claimed Mion it would have been great
GuyInFreezer

rEdo wrote:

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Mafia have a special nightkill and the part that they being able to increase multiple people's HS at night worries me.
so you basically just confirmed my theory of somebody having a special nightkill (for example Sakura), or what? I don't remember anybody mentioning anything about the special nightkill before.
No, it's the total opposite.
Mafia already has a special kill, so giving scum another special kill doesn't make much sense. (In case you didn't know, mafia vig in the team = two kills at night and that's way too OP to be in 12p setup.)
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